must one be born of water and the spirit per john 3:5? does the holy spirit dwell in christians...

Must one be born of Must one be born of water and the Spirit per water and the Spirit per John 3:5?John 3:5?

Does the Holy Spirit Does the Holy Spirit dwell in Christians dwell in Christians today?today?

Does The Holy Spirit Does The Holy Spirit guide, strengthen and guide, strengthen and comfort Christians comfort Christians today?today?

Are believers, by one Are believers, by one Spirit, baptized into one Spirit, baptized into one body today? (1 Cor body today? (1 Cor 12:13)12:13)

Should believers Should believers today expect to today expect to

receive Holy Spirit receive Holy Spirit baptism, baptism,

(evidenced by (evidenced by speaking in speaking in

tongues), like the tongues), like the apostles did in apostles did in

Acts 2?Acts 2?

JesusJohn’s

Generic Prophecy: Mat 3:11; Mar 1:8; Luke 3:16; John 1:33

To ApostlesJohn 14:26; John 15:26;

John 16:13-15; John 20:19-26; Acts 1:1-8;

Apostles Acts 2:1-4; Acts 11:15;

House of Cornelius

Acts 10:44-46; Acts 11:15;

WHO? Matthew 3:5-12 (NKJV)Matthew 3:5-12 (NKJV)5 5 Then Jerusalem, all Judea, and all the region around the Then Jerusalem, all Judea, and all the region around the Jordan went out to him Jordan went out to him 6 6 and were baptized by him in the and were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins. Jordan, confessing their sins. 7 7 But when he saw many of But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee said to them, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee

from the wrath to come? from the wrath to come? 8 8 Therefore bear fruits worthy of Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance, repentance, 9 9 and do not think to say to yourselves, 'We and do not think to say to yourselves, 'We

have Abraham as have Abraham as ourour father.' For I say to you that God is father.' For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.

The WHO includes the Pharisees and Sadducees

Matthew 3:5-12 (NKJV)Matthew 3:5-12 (NKJV)10 10 And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees.

Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. down and thrown into the fire. 11 11 I indeed baptize you with I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 12 His His winnowing fan winnowing fan isis in His hand, and He will thoroughly in His hand, and He will thoroughly

clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable

fire." fire."

Those baptized Those baptized with the Holy with the Holy Spirit and fire not Spirit and fire not specified in ANY specified in ANY of these of these passages– passages– (Not (Not every Pharisee & every Pharisee & Sadducee - Not Sadducee - Not ALL who came to ALL who came to John! Not US!)John! Not US!)

These passages These passages specify the specify the administrator – administrator – NOT the NOT the recipients!recipients!

Matthew 3:11 (NKJV) 11 . . . He . . . is mightier than I, . . . He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Mark 1:8 (NKJV) 8 . . . He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.“

Luke 3:16 (NKJV) 16 . . . One mightier than I is coming, . . . He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

John 1:33 (NKJV) 33 . . . 'Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.'

Acts 1:2-5 (NKJV)Acts 1:2-5 (NKJV)2 2 until the day in which He was until the day in which He was

taken up, after He through the Holy taken up, after He through the Holy Spirit had given commandments to Spirit had given commandments to the apostles whom He had chosen, the apostles whom He had chosen, 3 3

to whom He also presented Himself to whom He also presented Himself alive after His suffering by many alive after His suffering by many infallible proofs, being seen by infallible proofs, being seen by

them during forty days and them during forty days and speaking of the things pertaining to speaking of the things pertaining to

the kingdom of God. . . . the kingdom of God. . . .

Luke 24:47-49 (NKJV)Luke 24:47-49 (NKJV)47 47 and that repentance and and that repentance and

remission of sins should be remission of sins should be preached in His name to all preached in His name to all

nations, beginning at nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Jerusalem. 48 48 And you are And you are

witnesses of these things. witnesses of these things. 49 49

Behold, I send the Promise of Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but My Father upon you; but

tarry in the city of Jerusalem tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with until you are endued with

power from on high."power from on high."

Acts 1:2-5 (NKJV)Acts 1:2-5 (NKJV)4 4 And being assembled together And being assembled together with with them,them, He commanded them He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but not to depart from Jerusalem, but

to wait for the Promise of the to wait for the Promise of the Father, "which," Father, "which," He said,He said, "you "you

have heard from Me; have heard from Me; 5 5 for John truly baptized with for John truly baptized with

water, but you shall be baptized water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many with the Holy Spirit not many

days from now."days from now."

Acts 1:26-2:14 (NKJV)Acts 1:26-2:14 (NKJV)26 26 And And theythey cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was he was numbered with the eleven apostlesnumbered with the eleven apostles. . 1 1 When the Day When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, of Pentecost had fully come, theythey were all with one accord were all with one accord

in one place. in one place. 2 2 And suddenly there came a sound from And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole

house where house where theythey were sitting. were sitting. 3 3 Then there appeared to them Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and divided tongues, as of fire, and oneone sat upon each of them sat upon each of them. . 4 4

And And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

(Acts 1:24-(Acts 1:24-2:1)2:1)

““. . . with the . . . with the eleven eleven

apostlesapostles. . And when the And when the

day of day of Pentecost Pentecost was fully was fully

come, come, they they were all were all with one with one accord in accord in one placeone place

. . . ”. . . ”

2 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where whole house where theythey were sitting. were sitting.

3 3 Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and of fire, and oneone sat upon each of sat upon each of themthem..

4 4 And And theythey were all filled with the Holy Spirit were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave Spirit gave themthem utterance. utterance.

7 7 . . . "Look, . . . "Look, are not all are not all these who speakthese who speak GalileansGalileans??

14 14 But But Peter, standing up Peter, standing up with the elevenwith the eleven, , raised his voice and said to them,raised his voice and said to them,

Acts 2 - Apostles Baptized in Acts 2 - Apostles Baptized in the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit

Acts 2:38 - 3,000 baptized in waterActs 2:38 - 3,000 baptized in waterActs 4:4 - 5,000 baptized in waterActs 4:4 - 5,000 baptized in water

Acts 6:6-8 - Apostles lay hands on Stephen Acts 6:6-8 - Apostles lay hands on Stephen & Philip - Stephen performs & Philip - Stephen performs

miraclesmiraclesActs 8:1-25 - Samaritans baptized in Acts 8:1-25 - Samaritans baptized in water/Philip performs miracles/Apostles water/Philip performs miracles/Apostles

lay hands on Samaritanslay hands on SamaritansActs 8:26-40 - Ethiopian eunuch baptized in Acts 8:26-40 - Ethiopian eunuch baptized in

waterwaterNo miracles workedNo miracles worked

Acts 9 (22:16) - Saul baptized in waterActs 9 (22:16) - Saul baptized in water

Acts 10:44-48 - Cornelius’ Household Acts 10:44-48 - Cornelius’ Household Baptized in Holy SpiritBaptized in Holy Spirit

Peter had to tell about it (Acts 11:1-18).

Peter had to go back to the beginning to find like example (Acts 11:15).

Peter had to remember back 6 to 10 years (Acts 11:16).

Peter had to LATER tell about it again - “ye know how that a good while ago” (Acts 15:1-11). (not repeated)

Baptism PurposeFulfille

d?Continu

es

Moses 1 Cor. 10:1-

2“Unto Moses” YesYes No

John /Water Mt.

3:11

“remission of sins” prepare for

ChristYesYes No

Suffering Mk. 10:38-39

Christ & apostles cost of bringing

TruthYesYes No

Holy Spirit Mt. 3:11

Sign on apostles & on House of

CorneliusYesYes No

Jesus /Water Acts 2:38

Salvation-Into Christ-Rom. 6:3,4

Began Began in Acts 2in Acts 2

Yes

Fire Mt. 3:7, 10-12

God’s Punishment on Unbelievers Not YetNot Yet

Yet in the

Future

JesusJesus

““There is ONLY one There is ONLY one baptism” baptism” 2 Baptisms2 Baptisms

27 A.D.27 A.D. - Mt. - Mt. 3:113:11

30 A.D.30 A.D. - Acts - Acts 1:5-8; 2:1-4, 381:5-8; 2:1-4, 3841 A.D.41 A.D. - Acts - Acts 10:44-48; Acts 10:44-48; Acts

11:15-1611:15-16 ONLY 1 ONLY 1 BaptismBaptism

62 A.D.62 A.D. - Today - TodayEph. 4:4-6Eph. 4:4-6

If Holy Spirit

Baptism is for the church today, then

Water Baptism has been

done away!

JesusJesus

““There is ONLY one There is ONLY one baptism” baptism”

John 3:3,5 (NKJV) John 3:3,5 (NKJV)

Jesus answered and said to him, Jesus answered and said to him, ""Most assuredly, I say to you, Most assuredly, I say to you,

unless one is born again, he cannot unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of Godsee the kingdom of God." . . . Jesus ." . . . Jesus answered, "answered, "Most assuredly, I say to Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and you, unless one is born of water and

the Spirit, he cannot enter the the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of Godkingdom of God. .

Purified your souls by

obeying the truth

Born again . . . Of the word of

God,

Purified your souls by

obeying the truth

Born again . . . Of the word of

God,

1 Pet. 1 Pet. 1:21,221:21,221 Pet. 1 Pet.

1:21,221:21,22

Bodies washed

Hearts sprinkled

Bodies washed

Hearts sprinkled

HebHeb

10:2210:22

HebHeb

10:2210:22

washing of water

by the word,

washing of water

by the word,

washing of regeneration

and renewing of the Holy

Spirit

washing of regeneration

and renewing of the Holy

Spirit

born of water

and the Spirit

born of water

and the Spirit

Ephes. Ephes. 5:265:26

Ephes. Ephes. 5:265:26Titus 3:5Titus 3:5Titus 3:5Titus 3:5John 3:5John 3:5John 3:5John 3:5

When One’s When One’s Sins Are Sins Are Forgiven – Forgiven – That Person That Person Is Born gain Is Born gain – –

He has A He has A New Life in New Life in Christ – Christ – Romans 6:3-Romans 6:3-66

Is a child of Is a child of God – Gal God – Gal 3:26,273:26,27

1 Peter 1:22-23 (NKJV)

22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the

Spirit . . . 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but

incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,

Acts 2:16-21 (NKJV)16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, says

God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall

prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. 18 And on My

menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall

prophesy.

““It will HAPPEN” – It will HAPPEN” – Does NOT Imply that Does NOT Imply that

the signs will continue the signs will continue – even though the – even though the

results DO!results DO!

““It will HAPPEN” – It will HAPPEN” – Does NOT Imply that Does NOT Imply that

the signs will continue the signs will continue – even though the – even though the

results DO!results DO!God did! Thus God did! Thus fulfilled – Acts 2 & fulfilled – Acts 2 &

1010

God did! Thus God did! Thus fulfilled – Acts 2 & fulfilled – Acts 2 &

1010

They Did – They Did – Acts 21:9Acts 21:9

They Did – They Did – Acts 21:9Acts 21:9

NOT throughout NOT throughout those daysthose days

NOT throughout NOT throughout those daysthose daysAll Christians Did NOT All Christians Did NOT

Prophesy! – 1 Cor. Prophesy! – 1 Cor. 12:28-2912:28-29

All Christians Did NOT All Christians Did NOT Prophesy! – 1 Cor. Prophesy! – 1 Cor.

12:28-2912:28-29

Acts 2:16-21 (NKJV)19 I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of

smoke. 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great

and awesome day of the Lord. 21 And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on

the name of the Lord Shall be saved.'

““It will HAPPEN” – The day is It will HAPPEN” – The day is coming . . . The signs would coming . . . The signs would

confirm the substance – confirm the substance – But the signs were NOT the But the signs were NOT the

substance themselves!substance themselves!

““It will HAPPEN” – The day is It will HAPPEN” – The day is coming . . . The signs would coming . . . The signs would

confirm the substance – confirm the substance – But the signs were NOT the But the signs were NOT the

substance themselves!substance themselves!

““SHALL BE SAVED” - This is the GIFT - the SHALL BE SAVED” - This is the GIFT - the SUBSTANCE to which all the signs pointed SUBSTANCE to which all the signs pointed

- which God promises to ALL who call!- which God promises to ALL who call!

““SHALL BE SAVED” - This is the GIFT - the SHALL BE SAVED” - This is the GIFT - the SUBSTANCE to which all the signs pointed SUBSTANCE to which all the signs pointed

- which God promises to ALL who call!- which God promises to ALL who call!

Acts 2:38Acts 2:38 • The promise to The promise to

which the which the signs pointed – signs pointed – (21)(21)

• Received Received AFTERAFTER they they repented & repented & were baptized were baptized in the name of in the name of JesusJesus

Gal. 3:14 (NKJV)Gal. 3:14 (NKJV)14 14 that that the the

blessing of blessing of AbrahamAbraham might might come upon the come upon the

Gentiles in Christ Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we Jesus, that we

might receive might receive the the promise of the promise of the Spirit through Spirit through

faithfaith. .




Gal. 3:26-29 Gal. 3:26-29 (NKJV)(NKJV)

26 26 For you are all For you are all sons of God sons of God

through faith in through faith in Christ JesusChrist Jesus. . 27 27 For For as many of you as as many of you as were baptized into were baptized into Christ have put on Christ have put on Christ. Christ. 28 28 There is There is neither Jew nor neither Jew nor

Greek, . . .Greek, . . .




Gal. 3:26-29 Gal. 3:26-29 (NKJV)(NKJV)

. . . there is neither . . . there is neither slave nor free, there slave nor free, there is neither male nor is neither male nor female; for you are female; for you are

all one in Christ all one in Christ Jesus. Jesus. 29 29 And if you And if you

areare Christ's, then you Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, are Abraham's seed,

and and heirs heirs according to the according to the

promisepromise..




Acts 10:44; 11:17Acts 10:44; 11:17• A specific gift - A specific gift -

“Speaking in “Speaking in tongues” received tongues” received in the same in the same manner as apostles manner as apostles at the beginning.at the beginning.

• A unique & non-A unique & non-repeatable eventrepeatable event

• Proving that God Proving that God would accept the would accept the Gentiles . . .Gentiles . . .

Gal. 3:14; 19,26-29

Gal. 3:14; 19,26-29

Acts 2:38(NKJV)

"Repent,

be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ

for the remission of sins;

and you shall receive the gift of the Holy

Spirit.

Acts 3:19 (NKJV)

Repent

be converted, .

that your sins may be blotted out,

so that times of refreshing may come

from the presence of the Lord,

Acts 2:38(NKJV)

"Repent,

be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ

for the remission of sins;

and you shall receive the gift of the Holy

Spirit.

Gal. 3:14 (NKJV)Gal. 3:14 (NKJV)14 14 that that the blessing of the blessing of

AbrahamAbraham might come might come upon the Gentiles in upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we Christ Jesus, that we

might receive might receive the the promise of the Spirit promise of the Spirit

through faiththrough faith. . . . . . . . 27 27 For For as many of you as were as many of you as were

baptized into Christ have baptized into Christ have put on Christ. put on Christ.

BY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s Teaching BaptizedBaptized1 Corinthians 12:13

(NKJV)13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--

whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink

into one Spirit.

The Holy The Holy Spirit Spirit influences influences one to be one to be baptized baptized through that through that which He which He revealed – revealed –

He is NOT He is NOT The The element!element!




into one Spirit.

““BY”BY” - a primary - a primary preposition preposition

denotingdenoting (fixed) (fixed) positionposition (in place, (in place, time or state), time or state), andand

(by implication) (by implication) instrumentality instrumentality

((medially or medially or constructivelyconstructively), —), —Strong's Talking Greek Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary& Hebrew Dictionary




into one Spirit.

1 Cor 12:31 Cor 12:33 3 . . . no one . . . no one can say that can say that Jesus is Lord Jesus is Lord

except except by the by the Holy SpiritHoly Spirit..




into one Spirit.

““. . . and many . . . and many of the of the

Corinthians Corinthians hearing hearing

believed, and believed, and were baptized” were baptized” Acts 18:8Acts 18:8




into one Spirit.

1 Cor 1:12-13 1 Cor 1:12-13 (NKJV)(NKJV)

12 12 . . . "I am of . . . "I am of Paul," . . . Paul," . . . 13 13 Is Is Christ divided? Christ divided?

Was Paul Was Paul crucified for you? crucified for you?

Or were you Or were you baptized in the baptized in the name of Paul? name of Paul?

BY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s Teaching BaptizedBaptized1 Cor 1:12-13 1 Cor 1:12-13

(NKJV)(NKJV)12 12 . . . "I am of . . . "I am of Paul," . . . Paul," . . . 13 13 Is Is Christ divided? Christ divided?

Was Paul Was Paul crucified for you? crucified for you?

Or were you Or were you baptized in the baptized in the name of Paul? name of Paul?

Two things required for one to belong to Jesus – His Blood – 1 Pet 1:18,19 Baptism in His Name –

Acts 18:8;2:38; 10:47,48 JESUS DIED FOR THEM &

They were baptized in the name of Christ - Therefore: They belonged to Christ!!

BY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s TeachingBY Spirit’s Teaching BaptizedBaptized12 12 . . . "I am of . . . "I am of Paul," . . . Paul," . . . 13 13 Is Is Christ divided? Christ divided?

Was Paul Was Paul crucified for crucified for

you? Or you? Or were were you baptized you baptized

in the name of in the name of PaulPaul? ?

1 Cor 1:12-13 1 Cor 1:12-13 (NKJV)(NKJV)

13 13 For by one For by one Spirit Spirit we we were all were all baptizedbaptized into one into one

body--. . . body--. . . 1 Cor 12:13 1 Cor 12:13

(NKJV)(NKJV)

““. . . and . . . and many of the many of the Corinthians Corinthians

hearing hearing believed, and believed, and

were were baptizedbaptized””

Acts 18:8Acts 18:8

The preposition "by" has the idea of instrumentality - not that we are baptized "with the Spirit"

The Holy Spirit leads us by the instrument of the word to be baptized into Christ. (cf. 1 Peter 1:22-25)

This baptism, (the one New Testament baptism), is water baptism. (Acts 8:12; 2:38; 10:47,48)

By One Spirit I Believe That Jesus Is The Christ – (John 20:30.31)

By One Spirit I Confessed Jesus As The Christ – (1 Cor 12:3)

By One Spirit I Repented of My Sins – (Rev 3:19-22)

By One Spirit I Was Baptized INTO Christ – (1 Cor 12:13; Rom 6:3-6)

By One Spirit I Serve The Lord – (Rom 8:1,2,5,13,14)

Acts 8:12-17 (NKJV)12 But when they believed Philip as he preached the

things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized. 13 Then Simon

himself also believed; and when he was baptized . . . 17

Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Holy

Spirit.

Acts 10:44-48 (NKJV)Acts 10:44-48 (NKJV)44 44 While Peter was still speaking While Peter was still speaking these words, these words, the Holy Spirit fell the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the upon all those who heard the wordword. . . . . . . . 47 47 "Can anyone forbid "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be water, that these should not be baptized who have received the baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we Holy Spirit just as we have?"have?" 48 48

And And he commanded them to be he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the baptized in the name of the LordLord. Then they asked him to . Then they asked him to

stay a few days.stay a few days.

Sin separates a person Sin separates a person from God – Is 59:1,2; from God – Is 59:1,2; Rom 6:23Rom 6:23

The blood of Jesus The blood of Jesus cleanses a person of his cleanses a person of his sins – Ep 1:7; Col 1:14sins – Ep 1:7; Col 1:14

The blood is found The blood is found ONLY in Christ – Rom. ONLY in Christ – Rom. 3:24; Eph 1:3; Col. 1:143:24; Eph 1:3; Col. 1:14

No Sin – BUT Still Lost - &

Outside Christ

Alien Lost Sinner – YET IN Christ

JesusJesus

By Christ from heaven-“He shall baptize you. . .” (Mt. 3:11; Jn. 1:33; Acts 2:32-33).

Received by the apostles - (Acts 2:1-4)

Received by Gentiles – (Acts 10:44,45; 11:15,16)

By apostles - (Acts By apostles - (Acts 6:6-8; 8:17-18; 19:6; 6:6-8; 8:17-18; 19:6; Rom. 1:11; 2 Tim. Rom. 1:11; 2 Tim. 1:6).1:6).

Received by many – Received by many – (Acts 6:6; 8:17,18; (Acts 6:6; 8:17,18; 19:6)19:6)

Distinct from Holy Distinct from Holy Spirit baptism - Spirit baptism - (Acts 8:17,18; (Acts 8:17,18; 11:15,16)11:15,16)

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