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meufe daviTi: `gasaocars ar velodi,

TumcaRa vnaxe

gasaocari!~

`xolo iyo xilviTa did, xorciTa Txel,

hasakiTa srul, yovlad keTil, sruliad gvamiTa

mrTel da suliTa ubiwo~ . _ m eufis

danaxvisTanave amotivtivda gonebaSi grigol

xanZTelis merCuliseuli daxasiaTeba.

piradad ar vicnobdi da arc menaxa. mxolod

satelefono saubari mqonda oriodejer. mis

Sesaxeb vicodi mxolod is, rom saqmiTmetyvel

adamianTa ricxvs ganekuTvneboda, mravalsityvaoba

ara sCveoda da qalbaton lelasTan saocari

qristesmieri siyvaruli da pativiscema akav-

Sirebda. . .

garegnobiT meudabnoe bers Camohgavs: Txeli,

ufro ki _ xmeli, daZarRvuli, aSkarad atyvia

fizikuri Sromisa da garjis kvali; momRimari

saxe, mSvidi gamometyveleba, Tbili da rbili

xma; mozomili, zusti pasuxebi SekiTxvebze; arc

erTi sityva zedmeti, arc erTi _ naklebi...

saavadmyofoSi qalbaton lelas sanaxavad

mosuls mcire dro hqonda, sapatriarqoSi mieC-

qareboda da dro aRar damikargavs, pirdapir

saqmeze gadavedi:

_ didi xania qalbaton lelas icnobT?

_ ramdenime welia. margveli mitropolitis, meufe

konstantinesgan msmenoda lela kakulias moRvaweobis

Sesaxeb. gairkva, rom Cems mrevlsac hqonia masTan

urTierToba da

swored maTTan

erTad vewvi e

pirvelad lelas.

m a n wa m a k iTxa

sakuTari Canawerebi

_ msoflio poli-

tikuri winaswar-

metyvelebani, damaT-

valierebina foto-

albomi, visaubreT...

madloba ufals, rom

Cveni urTierToba

dRemde grZeldeba

da me patara lukas (winaswarmetyvelis ori wlis

SviliSvili. _ red.) naTliac gaxlavarT.

_ ramdenad iolad dasajerebeli iyo TqvenTvis

_ sasuliero pirisTvis, is, rac lela kakulias

Sesaxeb SeityeT? xom ar SegparviaT eWvi imaSi,

rom raRac cdomilebasTan gqondaT saqme?

_ mrevlis daxasiaTeba da mis Sesaxeb mosmenili

sruliad sakmarisi aRmoCnda imisaTvis, rom Semecno

adamiani, romelTanac Sedgeboda urTierToba. magram, radgan

Cveni Sexvedra-gacnoba saero piris meSveobiT xdeboda,

garkveuli wili undoblobisa, ra Tqma unda, arsebobda.

masTan SexvedriT raime gasaocars ar movelodi, TumcaRa

vnaxe gasaocari. eWvi mxolod imiT ar yofila gamowveuli,

rom me sasuliero piri var. naTelmxilveluri,

winaswarmetyveluri unaris adamianis arsebobaSi daeWveba

mxolod eklesiis msaxurTaTvis rodia damaxasiaTebeli;

eriskacebsac uZneldebaT-xolme amis ucbad aRqma-miReba.

meufe konstantines uTqvams lelasTvis: adamianebi verc

amoicnoben da verc mixvdebian, vin xar Seno. es gasakviric

araa. qriste dadioda da masze eWvi hqondaT, saswaulebs

axdenda da misi ar sjerodaT, winaswarmetyvelebda da

borotis Zalas miawerdnen. eWvi arsebobs mas mere, rac

adamiani codviT daeca anu sikvdili da cduneba Semovida...

amitom es Cveulebrivi ambavia. ar iqneba yvela

aRfrTovanebuli, ar iqneba yvela ganmkiTxveli.

_ ramdenad faseulia TqvenTvis qalbaton

lelasTan megobroba?

_ saerTod, nebismier adamianTan urTierToba faseuli

da Rirebulia sasuliero pirisaTvis. TiToeuli adamiani

xom sulia? Cveni _ sasuliero pirebis upirvelesi

daniSnuleba ki am sulebze mzrunvelobaa. amas garda,

maTTan urTierTobiT eklesiis msaxurebi bevr ramesac

vswavlobT. xolo Tu saqme lelasnair gansakuTrebul

adamianTan gaqvs, miT umetes, bevrs swavlob da Seimecneb.

_ aris Tu ara raime niSniT gamorCeuli

sxvaTagan Tqveni da lela kakulias urTierToba?

_ saerTod, yvela adamianTan urTierToba gan-

sakuTrebulia maTi individualurobidan gamomdinare.

rac Segvexeba me da lelas: es gamorCeuloba erTi

mTavri principiT ganisazRvreba _ gansakuTrebuli

ubraloebiT; lelas fenomenaluroba, misi zebunebrivi

unari, aranairad ar uSlis xels Cvens ubralo

urTierTobas. Tavad ufali iwonebs msgavs ubralo

urTierTdamokidebulebas adamianebs Soris.

_ rogorc saero ise sasuliero pirebs Soris

mravlad arian adamianebi, romlebic qalbaton

lelasTan rCevis sakiTxavad dadian. piradad

Tqven Tu dagWirvebiaT winaswarmetyvelis

daxmareba?

_ amis Sesaxeb mec msmenia da vici, rom bevr politikur

Tu saeklesio moRvawes usargeblia lelas fenomeniT,

rCeva miuRia da es rCevebi maT Zalian daxmarebia, radgan

lelas naTqvami namdvilad aris momavlis prognozis

matarebeli.

piradad me lela jer ar Semiwuxebia, gamomdinare

Cveni ubralo urTierTobidan. magram SesaZloa ufalma

esec dauSvas: damWirdes, viTxovo misi rCeva da garkveuli

Semweobac miviRo misi winaswaruwyebiT. Tumca, imiT,

rac wamikiTxavs misi winaswarmetyvelebebidan, garkveuli

orientacia mec amiRia.

_ ramdenad axerxebT, Tvali miadevnoT, rogori

intensivobiTa da sizustiT sruldeba lela

kakulias winaswarxedvebi?

_ marTalia, mRvdelmTavars saeklesio msaxurebis

garda sazogado moRvaweobac akisria, magram RvTis SewevniT,

sainformacio nakads politikuri sferos Sesaxeb,

m etnaklebad

mainc moride-

buli var. Tum-

ca es xels ar

miSlis, zogadi

warmodgena mqo-

ndes msoflio-

Si mimdinare _

erTi tkivili-

Ta da erTi

s i x a r ul i T

Sezavebul pro-

cesebze. xolo

saimisod, rom

garkveulwilad vicode, rogori sixSiriT cxaddeba

lelas politikuri winaswaruwyebani, Cemamde moRweuli

epizoduri cnobebic kmara.

_ ras ityviT cruwinaswarmetyvelebis Sesaxeb?

marTlac ase saSiSia maTi agrerigad momravleba?

lela kakulia ambobs, rom cruwinaswarmetyvelTa

energia cudad moqmedebs ara mxolod konkretul

adamianebze, aramed mTlianad qveyanaze.

_ ra Tqma unda, saSiSia. gaixseneT: `ara icruo!~

tyuili aris TanaZlieroba eSmakTan da vinc cruobs, is

TanaZlieria borotisa, xolo boroti ebrZvis qveyanas.

ase rom, srulad veTanxmebi lelas naTqvams:

cruwinaswarmetyvelTa moRvaweobiT gamowveuli

saSiSroeba namdvilad didia!

amba-alaverdeli

mitropoliti meufe daviTi

_ qalbatoni lela sakuTar CanawerebSi

aRniSnavs, rom mova dro, roca saqarTveloSi da

mis xelisuflebaSi momravldebian sxvadasxva

seqtis warmomadgenlebi, romlebic Seecdebian

marTlmadideblobis daTrgunvas. sazogadoebis

erT nawils miaCnia, rom swored axlaa es dro...

_ qristianobas pirvelive saukunidan mosdevs uamravi

gansacdeli da SeWirveba. saxarebaSi, epistoleebsa da

samociqulo saqmeebSi moTxrobilia, rarig devnasa da

Seviwroebas ganicdida Cveni sarwmunoeba maSinac ki,

roca mociqulebma uSualod uflis qadagebiT Sekribes

mravali mowafe da mimdevari. magram swored ukiduresi

devnilobisa da SeWirvebis Jams Seikriba, Seiracxa zeciur

eklesiaSi _ dasSi yvelaze bevri wmidani.

keTilsa da borots Soris mimdinare brZola xan

mZafrdeba da xanac sustdeba. amiTaa gamowveuli

perioduli gamravleba seqtantTa da uRmerToTa, romelic

aris niSani moaxloebuli siduxWirisa: sulierisa Tu

ekonomikurisa. magram Jami rwmenis devnilobis

momZlavrebisa erTgvar sixaruls iwvevs, vinaidan swored

am dros gamoCndebian-xolme yvelaze metad namdvili

morwmuneebi. amgvari brZola xels uwyobs adamianebis

WeSmarit rwmenaSi gaZlierebas. RvTis daSvebiT, am dros

eZlevaT adamianebs RvTis gzasa da borotis gzas Soris

arCevanis gakeTebis SesaZlebloba. samwuxaroa, rom am

dros zogi Cveni Tanamemamule cdeba, swor arCevans ver

akeTebs, wamiers edevneba da amiT yvelaze mTavars

samaradisod kargavs.

erTi sityviT, Tu axla dgas nawinaswarmetyvelebi

Jami, nu SegeSindebaT _ es rwmenaSi kidev ufro

gaZlierebas moaswavebs!

_ rogor fiqrobT , ra mden ad axlosa a

WeSmaritebasTan is, rom `qristianobis patara,

saRi marcvali mTels msoflioSi mxolod

saqarTveloSia dafluli?~

_ amasTan dakavSirebiT bevrad ufro adre, sul sxva

epoqaSi, sinas wmida mTaze moRvawe qarTvelis _ ioane

zosimes ̀ qebai da didebai qarTulisa enisai~ maxsendeba.

masSi naTqvamia, rom amiT eniTa unda emxilos qveyana,

msoflio. raSia mxileba? _ mxolod karg sarwmunoebaSi;

ras gulisxmobs `ena~ garda sametyvelo xorcieli

organosi? _ modgmas, toms, ers.

lela ambobs, rom qristianobis patara, saRi marcvali

mTels msoflioSi mxolod saqarTveloSia dafluli.

is rom saqarTveloSi, sveticxovlis taZarSi daflulia

kvarTi qristesi _ simbolo ganuyofeli, daunawevrebeli

eklesiisa, marTlac gvavsebs didi sixaruliTa da imediT,

rom roca pasuxismgebloba Sedgeba, kvarTis mcveli

xalxi Tavisi sarwmunoebiT daicavs qristianuli eklesiis

mTlianobas da ganuyoflobas da amiT `amxels~ _

uqadagebs qristianobas yvelas.

_ anu es winaswarmetyveleba zedmetad axloa

WeSmaritebasTan?

_ sinas mTaze X saukuneSi moRvawe mamebi SemTxveviT

ar mixsenebia. RvTis gangebulebiT, winaswaruwyebani

mosalodneli siZneleebis Taobaze saukuneTa manZilze

gardamodioda sxvadasxva adamianis bageTagan sxvadasxva

epoqisTvis damaxasiaTebeli sametyvelo eniT. xolo vis,

rodis da sad asruldeba winaswarmetyveleba, es

mxoloddamxolod uflis nebaa...

* * *

meufes interviusTvis madloba movaxsene da

erTad Sev ediT q albaton lelasTan

dasamSvidobeblad. iq me da winaswarmetyvelis

ori uaxloesi adamiani: manana quTaTelaZe da

daviT kvirkvelia, mowmeni gavxdiT saocari

siTboTi da siyvaruliT gajerebuli scenisa _

meufe daviT alaverdeli mirons scxebda, locavda

da efereboda qarTvel winaswarmetyvels, xolo

is patara bavSviviT Txovda, mocaleobis Jams

aucileblad Seevlo masTan sasaubrod.

lela kakulias

winaswarmetyvelebaTa

wigni, romelSic

mravladaa

mkiTxvelisTvis

saintereso faqtebi,

SegiZliaT SeiZinoT

maRaziebSi `saunje~

(operis pirdapir) da

`aisi~ (metro

`marjaniSvilTaAn~)

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kosmosSi dro ar arsebobskosmosSi dro ar arsebobskosmosSi dro ar arsebobskosmosSi dro ar arsebobskosmosSi dro ar arsebobs !!!!!

(1992-2003 wlebSi Cawerili winaswarmetyvelebebis gagrZeleba. dasawyisi #1-2)

1993 weli, 11 agvisto, Ramis 12 saaTi.

amerikeli diplomatis sikvdili rusebis Cawyobilia.

ar ician, riTi gaanadguron saqarTvelo, rogori saxis

terori jobia! Rameebs aTeven amaze fiqrSi. es SemTxveva

saqarTvelos ver avnebs. amerikam da evropam icis saqarTve-

los fasi. rusebis yoveli mtruli moqmedeba CafuSulia.

amerika ufro iaqtiurebs saqarTveloSi. daaCqarebs yovel-

gvar daxmarebas (rac viwinaswarmetyvele ukve 1992 wels).

amerikas, vxedav, didi imedi aqvs prezidentis, romelmac

brwyinvaled icis rusebTan urTierToba _ anu rogor

eTamaSos Wadraki da rogor miuZRvnas ̀ mati!!!~ informaci-

is Zalian didi nakadi gamexsna; ver vaswreb weras... rusebs

eSiniaT prezidentis.

vxedav, arZinba soxumSi ver Seva!!! gaero afxazTa mxri-

dan bevr darRvevas aRniSnavs. jaba ioseliani fexs ar

moicvlis soxumidan. jarebi gavlen? – me ki vxedav, rom ar

gavlen. vxedav gvardielebs – policiis formaSi. afxazTa

SenaerTebi iSleba. yvela mixvdeba, rom saqarTvelosgan

gamoyofa sisulelea! yvela garbis! momavalSi Sav zRvaze

saqarTvelo Zlieria. amerika gvexmareba, siurprizebi rusebs!

komentari

ramdenime wlis win, daaxloebiT 1993-94 wlebSi,

saqarTveloSi mokles amerikeli diplomati, centraluri

sadazvervo samsaxuris TanamSromeli vudrofi. mkvleloba

TiTqos gamoiZies, magram saqme jerac ar aris bolomde

gaxsnili. kuluaruli informaciiT, gamoricxuli araa,

amerikelis sikvdilSi rusis xeli erios. Cveni Crdiloe-

li mezoblebi xom marTlac dRe-Rames asworeben imaze

fiqrSi, ra dagviSavon da riT Segviqmnan problemebi.

amis dasturia sul axlaxans mowyobili ekonomikuri

blokada _ qarTuli Rvinis, `borjomis~, `nabeRlavis~,

citrusis (da kidev vin icis, ris) rusul bazarze

gatanis akrZalva. marTalia, es Zalze arasasiamovno faqtia

da magradac urtyams qarTul ekonomikas, magram rogorc

Tavad rusebi ityvian: íå áûâàåò õóäà áåç äîáðà. SesaZloa,

swored rusuli bazris dakargva gamodges biZgi imisaTvis,

rom Cvenma qveyanam daiwyos kidev ufro didi da seriozu-

li bazrebis Zieba evropasa da aziaSi. K

aqve unda aRiniSnos isic, rom Tavad rusi biznesmenebis

erTi nawili Zalze Sewuxebulia sakuTari xelisufleb-

is mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebiT da rogorc maTi war-

momadgenlebi acxadeben, konkretulad alkoholuri sas-

melebis rusulma bazarma seriozuli dartyma miiRo qarTu-

li maRalxarisxiani Rvinoebis akrZalviT.

1993 weli, 12 agvisto, dilis 10 saaTi.

dekemberi Zalian daiZabeba. vxedav, osTa, inguSTa da

CeCenT Soris didi omebia. CrdiloeT kavkasiis xalxTa

didi Sejaxeba iqneba. 1994 weli... ianvari da Tebervali,

Semdeg ki maisic, Zalian daiZabeba da kavkasiis saxli daiSleba.

rusebs misi arseboba aRar awyobT; es yvelaferi Wirdebo-

daT saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg, magram kovzi nacarSi Cauvar-

daT! es kavkasiis saxli, vxedav, ukve Zalian aaforiaqebs

ruseTs, imitom, rom ruseTis winaaRmdeg moimarTeba.

kavkasioni iketeba saqarTvelosa da osebs Soris! sama-

CabloSi sruldeba, rac adre viwinaswarmetyvele: qarTveli

ltolvilebi qarTul miwaze brundebian; yvela, erTic ar

daakldeba! ase nebavs RmerTs! afxazeTSi sakuTar keras

daubrundeba uklebliv yvela. sicocxle Cqefs. qarTvelni

Tavis mSobliur kuTxes ubrundebian. iwyeba saqarTvelos

ayvavebisa da siZlieris periodi.

1993 weli, 13 agvisto, Ramis 3 saaTi.

arnaxul energias vRebulob _ kosmiur mTlian velSi

mabanaveben!!! es niSnavs Cems mzadebas momavali Savi Zalebis

winaaRmdeg. rogorc ityvian, qvas qvaze ar davtovebT!

pirveli, rac maxsovs, es aris sityva uflisa: `nu

gamocdi RmerTsa Sensa!~

amitom Cven aravis arafers vanaxebT!!!

TviTon faqtebi laparakoben, rogor iyeneben Cvens ener-

gias Cems samSobloSi. aranairad!! ratom? RmerTma icis.

xandaxan eSmaki SemiCndeba, maxes migebs. am dros mexsneba

wyena, sibraze... sruliad marto var miwier zonaSi. xeli

meSleba yvelaferSi! magram aviwydeba satanas da mis mo-

ciqulT, rom qali eSmakze cxra dRiT adre daibada. am

saukuneSi amitomac dambades qalad! moSveba ar SeiZleba!

xandaxan minda movSorde yvelas, rom SeigrZnon energiis

fasi. magram es iqneba didi, gamousworebeli Secdoma! egonoT,

rom TviTon arian Zalian gonierni da tviniT savseni, rom

Tavisi ZalebiT moqmedeben. miWirs... exla periodi ufro

Savia. Zalaufleba Savi magiisa dafrinavs dedamiwaze. mom-

Zlavrdnen cruwinaswarmetyvelni da jadoqrebi _ sakuTar

institutebs qmnian, taSs ukraven, gvirgvinebs adgamen. ox,

adamiano, adamiano, ra susti da ususuria Seni goneba?!

absoluturad uZluria maTi moqmedeba. eklesiasac ubnevs

Tavgzas. saSineli qaosia. vnaxoT, sadamde gavZleb. es Sen

ici, ufalo Cemo!

mTavaria gandiddes da gaZlierdes marTlmadidebeli

eklesia, davicvaT jvari, gadarCes saqristiano, radgan oms,

romelsac vxedav momavalSi, sarwmunoebrivia. didi cecxli

dainTeba. adamianebi erTmaneTs gaanadgureben. daiwyeba sulebis

gadarCeva: vin aris cxovelis niSnis qveS dabadebuli, anu

vin miiRebs 666-s da vin dauxris Tavs am niSans. romeli

suli miiRebs adamianis niSans, rogor daimsaxurebs 220-s?..

es Zalze mtkivneuli gasavlelia, adamiano, SenTvis, magram

gTxovT, ar daiviwyoT: Sens Tavze Tmebic ki daTvlilia

uflisagan _ mama RmerTisagan. gaxsovdeT! gaxsovdeT! gax-

sovdeT!

1993 weli, 25 seqtemberi, Ramis 12 saaTi.

prezidenti or oms moigebs!!!

erTi afxazeTis omia. kidev vimeoreb asjer naxuls da

nawinaswarmetyvelebs: araviTari molaparakebebi, brZoliT

gavalT fsoumde. omi mTavrdeba sruliad saqarTvelos

gamarjvebiT. magram rCeba samegrelo. sami kviris win dav-

inaxe, sisxliT savse didi kolba gaskda da moefina dasav-

leTs. Setakebebi mainc iqneba. asruldeba Cemi adre naxuli

winaswarmetyveleba: ̀ roca saqarTvelos jarebi Semobrun-

debian fsoudan, gadauvlian mTels samegrelos, anu qobalias

bandebs~.

qobaliam Ralati gamoavlina. amas male yvela gaigebs.

misi razmebi yvelanairad welaven dros, raTa soxumi daec-

es. modis dro, roca, vxedav, istoriaSi Savi asoebiT Caiw-

ereba maTi saxelebi, vinc binZuri da saSineli ambebi

Caidines, gayides saqarTvelo, arZinbas da rusebs amoaxo-

cines qarTveli biWebi da mTlianad gawires samegrelo.

1993 weli, 26 seqtemberi, saRamos 7 saaTi.

dsT-ruseTisTvis saqarTvelo mniSvnelovani strate-

giuli qveyanaa da ar daTmobs! baltiispireTi TamaSi iyo

_ msoflios daanaxes viTom demokratiuli saxe. saqarTve-

los ki ar daTmoben. yvela emzadeba mTavrobaSi da daTanxm-

debian ̀ esengeSi~ Sesvlaze. es aris erTaderTi gza gadar-

Cenisa – es gamsaxurdias ̀ damsaxurebaa~. faqtobrivad, ru-

sis jars veomebiT! rogorc ki SevalT `esengeSi~, omic

Sewydeba, sxvaTa Soris, vxedav, amerikac moiwonebs qarTvelTa

am moqmedebas. ise, ̀ esenge~ droebiTia, mainc daiSleba. elci-

ni da mTeli ruseTi sisxlis tbaSi ibanavebs, imdenad

codvianebi arian. magram saqarTvelo am etapze unda daisa-

jos... erTian saqarTvelos ver mogvereoda. ver Seafases

prezidentis goneba da isjebian RvTisagan!!!

qarTvelebs ise mouvidaT, Tagvma Txara, Txarao, kata

gamoTxarao. gamsaxurdiam mwared waago!!! SevardnaZe prez-

identia! vxedav, ori partia darCeba. afxazeTSi da sama-

CabloSi daRvrili sisxlic vici, vis kiserzea. istoria

yvelafers Tavis adgilebze daawyobs.

(eSmakis maxea)

saRamos 10 saaTi.

saSineli Savi velia gaxsnili saqarTvelos Tavze; es

Savi jaWvi unda gawydes da daimsxvres, Torem samoqalaqo

omi, ZmaTa kvla gaanadgurebs saqarTvelos!!! omi afxazeTSi

mTavrdeba qarTvelTa gamarjvebiT. gamsaxurdiam waago...

vxedav gatanjul meomrebs. afxazeTSi qobalias, kitovanis,

wereTlis da sxvaTa gamyidvelobam saqarTvelo daRupvis

karamde miiyvana, magram Cven SarSan viwinaswarmetyveleT:

Zalianac rom undodeT, dRes saqarTvelos veravin gayidis

da uRalatebs. saqarTvelo martoa dRes _ RmerTis anabara!

qobalias razmSi da kitovanTanac moxdeba didi ganxeT-

qileba. RmerTi Tvalebs auxelT.

soxumi ar daecema, sanam erTmaneTs ar SeuerTdebian. mere

ki uTanasworo brZolaSi qarTvelebi gaimarjveben! saqarTvelo

daemsgavseba vietnams, magram ruseTSic igive ganmeordeba.

ruseT-ukrainis omi Searyevs msoflios. ar Searyevs

saqarTvelos. ruseTi imaze met sikvdils moimkis, vidre

saqarTveloSi daTesa.

baton eduards mofiqrebuli aqvs yvela svla. man icis,

rom es virTxebi male _ or dReSi daWamen erTmaneTs da

amiT igebs. mTeli saqarTvelo gverdSi amoudgeba.

`esengesTan~ mxolod ekonomikuri xelSekruleba da

ara politikuri!

RmerTo, ra moxdeba, rom 29-30 seqtembers daiwyos ruseT-

ukrainis omi? ukraina ukve momwifebulia da momzadebulia

omisaTvis, moskovi ki dasustebulia. axla yvelaferi drozea

damokidebuli.

arnaxuli energiiT vmoZraobT kosmiur velSi. saqarTve-

lo ibrZvis da marTlac `sjobs sicocxlesa naZraxsa,

sikvdili saxelovani!~

komunisturi betoni iSleba da naTdeba qarTuli ekle-

sia (1987 wlis xilva), saqarTvelo damoukidebelia!

xazbulatovi did brZolebs gaumarTavs elcins. vxsniT

am rgols. eSmakni daesxnen erTmaneTs Tavs. jari iqiT

dasWirdeT da dasWirdebaT. RmerTi sjis. xazbulatovi ase

advilad ar daTmobs poziciebs.

elcini gonze mova!!! gamsaxurdia denTiT savse kasria

amierkavkasiaSi. gamsaxurdia kavkasias aumxedrebs ruseTs,

Tuki elcini ar mova gonze. tyuilad ki ar ijda ̀ kavkasi-

is saxlSi~. es didi saSiSroebaa ruseTisaTvis. amitom

elcini iZulebuli Seiqmneba, prezidentis mxareze gadaix-

aros. prezidentis Wkua-goneba msoflios sWirdeba. msof-

lios qveynebisTvis ukve naTeli xdeba, rom ruseTi gveomeba

da ar unda apation, radgan Cadian iseT sisastikes, rogoric

faSistebsac ki ar CaudeniaT!

dro – dro – dro

1993 weli, 27 seqtemberi

situaciebi yovel wuTs unda Seicvalos, aucileblad

prezidentis sasargeblod. soxumi ar daecema. uecrad

modis ambavi: Sinagan jarebma kodori gaarRvies da qarTuli

jarebi soxumSi Sevidao. vxedav im tankebs, romlebsac

velodebi. es SeiZleba yovel wuTs moxdes. soxumis dacema

ar arsebobs. rogorc yovelTvis, marto davrCi. yvelas

rwmena Seerya. xels miSlian Cemi Zalian axloblebi. es

yovelTvis asea. pirvelad ar xdeba. saocar xasiaTze var.

soxumis irgvliv RvTis rkali Seikra! axla pirvels

uklia ocdaxuTi wuTi. rkali ufro da ufro diddeba,

uzarmazari energia moqmedebs. e.i. mteri ukan daixevs.

vxedav, mZime teqnika Sedis, Sinagani Zalebic Sedis.

kitovans, vxedav – meti gza aRar aqvs, soxumis gmiri

mainc gaxdes. prezidentis moqmedebam da nebisyofam yvela

motexa. xalxi, saqarTvelo erTiandeba. gamsaxurdia isev

aurevs (rogorc yovelTvis) da iwyeba ganxeTqileba. prez-

identi sworad fiqrobs. ar SeiZleba, rom misma aseTma

Tavganwirvam xalxi ar gamoafxizlos da es moxdeba kide-

vac. aslan abaSiZe da gamsaxurdia erTmaneTs Seejaxebian.

abaSiZe kidev raRacas elodeboda, magram mixvdeba, Tu ras

moutans gamsaxurdia... dro – dro – dro. RmerTi xedavs,

magram gvian sjis.

mcire SeniSvna: winaswarmetyvelebaTa zogierTi sak-

iTxis komentars mkiTxveli ixilavs interviuSi baton

avTandil ioselianTan, romelsac amave nomerSi gTavazobT.

1993 weli, 1 noemberi.

muslimebi msoflios qristianul saxelmwifoebs upir-

ispirdebian. saSineli periodi modis.

1993 weli, 28 dekemberi, dilis 9 saaTi.

ruseT-ukrainis omi gardauvalia. aris iseTi dapiri-

spirebebi, rasac ruseTi malavs. seriozuli daZabulobis

Sesaxeb araviTar informacias ar gadmoscemen. SeTanxmebebi,

viTom SeTanxmebebi, normaluri ar arsebobs, yvelaferi wk-

ipzea misuli – kraxamde!

Jirinovski udides TamaSs daiwyebs! Tavis ideebs da-

faravs da moulodnelad

iwyebs didi demokrati-

is TamaSs. daiwyebs sazR-

vargareTze muSaobas,

xolo ukrainasTan areu-

lobaSi pirvel rols

TviTon iTamaSebs. da-

farulad moTxris yve-

las da yvelafers. didi

Sinaomi daiwyeba kreml-

Si. Jirinovski ikavebs

muslimTa mxares. maTi

gamanadgurebeli ideebi

moswons! uzarmazar ma-

fias qmnis. rac dRes aqvs,

es araferia. warmatebebs

miaRwevs. ruseTi saTa-

maSo burTiviT gaibere-

ba. win aRudgeba esenges

yvela qveyana. elcins ki

mZime operacia elis. momavalSi igi aRar aris prezidenti.

Jirinovski brwyinavs, mwvervalze dgas. TiTqos asi procen-

tiT gadis prezidentad magram, vxedav, moulodnelad ufsk-

rulSi gadaiCexeba. wamova da aRsdgeba mis winaaRmdeg yvela

da yvelaferi, daupirispirdebian demokratiuli partiis

warmomadgenlebi. mas, Jirinovskis gaacamtvereben. manam ki

ruseTi gaivlis im etaps, roca saqarTveloSi daTesili

sisxli sakuTar saxlSi taifunad gadaeqcevaT. da amas

Jirinovski Seasrulebs. mas arc ruseTis prezidentoba

aweria da arc didi xnis sicocxle. mowamlaven! magram

ruseTis moTxras, romelic viTom ase Zalian uyvars, moaswrebs.

ase nebavs RmerTs!

saqarTvelo nel-nela iwmindeba, Zlierdeba. ruseTi ise-

Ti didi megobari gaxdeba saqarTvelosi, rom yvelas didad

gaukvirdeba, magram yvelafers RmerTi akeTebinebT.

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Jirinovski da elcini erTmaneTis ginebis, moTxris mets arafers gaakeTeben. graCovi

isev elcinis mxareze gadaixreba. amiT agebs Jirinovski momavalSi. armia, jari ar gayveba

da saerTod, JirinovskiT msoflios aSineben, Tu ar moexmareT ruseTs, SexedeT, vin modiso!

es binZuri politikuri TamaSia, razec rusebi pasuxs ageben da mis rezultatebs mxolod

sakuTar saxlSi _ ruseTis sazRvrebSi iwvneven!

1994 weli, 4 ianvari, dilis 9 saaTi.

dro ar viciT!!!

modis is periodi, vxedav, rodesac adamianebi saerTod ver gaugeben erTmaneTs! iwyeben

erTmaneTis ganadgurebas.

ruseTs saqarTvelo, rogorc erT-erTi qveyanas ̀ esengesi~, aRar awyobs. saqarTvelos

prezidentis eSiniaT; saqarTvelos prezidents ar endobian da misgan yvelafers moelian.

fiqroben, wlis meore naxevarSi, e.i. maisis Tvidan, aiZulon gadadges, ra Tqma unda, lamazad,

Rimil-RimiliT da moferebiT. es gamoiwvevs did politikur daZabulobebs qveyanaSi,

magram rusebi waageben! saqarTvelos prezidents didi misia akisria. man unda daSalos

`esengec!!!~

... iwyeba, vxedav – ruseTi gvibrunebs yvelafers, risi warTmevac saqarTvelosTvis

surda. sruldeba winaswarmetyveleba. afxazeTi, samaCablo... xalxi Tavis saxlkars ubrun-

deba. sicocxle Cqefs, saqarTvelo erTiania.

1994 weli, 6 ianvari, dilis 7 saaTi.

gamsaxurdia mokles!.. roca piradad gavafrTxile, muclis ares ufrTxildi, sikvdili

gaweria-meTqi, miTxra, kremlis agenti xar da maSineb, rom politikas gavanebo Tavi da

prezidenti ar gavxdeo! netavi axla ras ityoda?! magram mainc patrioti iyo da ara

politikosi, ramac daRupvis karamde miiyvana saqarTvelo, romelic mas Zalian uyvarda.

aseTia neba RvTisa!!!

moxdeba misi Camosveneba TbilisSi. sad daasvenon da saerTod, rom Camoasvenon, ra

moxdeba saqarTveloSi? gamosvlebi? xalxi aRsdgeba? did safiqralSia mTavroba Cavard-

nili, magram araferic ar moxdeba! xalxi mxolod pativs miagebs. igi ar unda iyos gmiri.

ai mTeli politika. arc iqneba. sad daimarxeba, eklesiaSi? ilia II ibrZolebs da

daasaflaveben mamis, konstantine gamsaxurdias gverdiT _ ezoSi, sagvareulo sasaflaoze.

momavalSi iq eklesias aaSeneben zviadistebi. amas veravin dauSlis. saqarTvelos 80%

procenti Cakvdeba. es iqneba xalxis gardaqmna. aq vxedav, ibadeba qarTveli eri. eri

erTiandeba. didi binZuri TamaSi wava. vinc gverdze edga gamsaxurdias CeCneTSi, isini

kargaven adamianur saxes. bevr rames gamsaxurdias gadaabraleben. televiziiT ilaparakeben.

es kaci (gamsaxurdia) ganwiruli iyo imisaTvis, raTa yvelas eRalata. am dros mtersac

ki Seecodeba. bolomde erTguli rCeba glexoba da gaunaTlebeli xalxi. es masa ki, mgonia,

did simpatiebs imsaxurebs. yvelafers zviads gadaabraleben. iseT raRaceebs moigoneben,

iseT faqtebs moiyvanen sakuTari tyavis gadasarCenad, rom guli agerevaT. magram viRacas

xom unda gadaabralon, aba, TviTon xom ar daibraleben?

o! ra Savi talRa gadauvlis saqarTvelos. umadurebi, satanebi... da mere dawynardeba

yvelaferi.

prezidentis humanurobas am dros ar eqneba sazRvari! igi gamsaxurdias ar Seexeba da

momavalSi sabolood imsaxurebs saqarTvelos siyvaruls. is marTlac udidesi diplo-

matia!!! me did pativs vcem am pirovnebas. rasac igi akeTebs (brwyinvaled vxedav)

aRfrTovanebaSi movdivar... dudaevs gamsaxurdias gamoyeneba surda CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi da

saerTod, es yeyeCi Zveli rusi generali, TviTon rom brma iaraRia politikosebs Soris,

bolomde azrze ar aris. hoda, ausruldeba, rac 1992 wels viwinaswarmetyvele. axla

dudaevis, CeCen-inguSTa da osTa jeri dadga! sakuTar saxlSi iwvneven rusebis avantiurebs

da SantaJebs. vnaxav erTi, rogori vaJkacebi arian CeCnebi da ras gaxdeba kavkasiis xalxTa

konfederacia. sisxlis tbaSi abanavebs mas ruseTi. siborote aravis SerCenia; arc dudaevs

SerCeba. vaJa fSavelas `stumar-maspinZeli~ sxva droSi iyo.

Secda gamsaxurdia! RmerTma acxonos misi suli!

gatanjuli saqarTvelo isvenebs, saqarTvelo wynardeba. miec Zala, RmerTo, prezidents!

ruseTi misiT iqneba axla marto dakavebuli... mas aranakleb uyvars saqarTvelo, vidre

zviad gamsaxurdias. ase rom, arc erTia egvipteli da arc meore frangi. orive bedkruli,

marTlac rom bedkruli saqarTvelos Svilebi arian. da icodeT, orives RvTis jvari aqvs

da ara satanis, magram RmerTma sxvadasxva roli daakisra da erTmaneTs daupirispira. ase

iyo saWiro, aseTi iyo neba RvTisa. sxvaTa Soris, rogorc momavalSi vxedav, am situaciebma

saqarTvelo gadaarCina warRvnas. Zalian miWirs xedva da wera. irgvliv cremlia. prezi-

dentsac ki daumZimda guli. ar esiamovna... mas gamsaxurdiasTan TanamSromloba ufro

awyobda da ara misi sikvdili.

udides pativs vcem am or, sxvadasxva kategoriis patriots.

* * *

CeCneTSi aireva situaciebi. dudaevi kontaqts eZebs saqarTvelos prezidentTan. gamsax-

urdia xels uSlidaT ukve. imedi imisa, rom gamsaxurdia gaimarjvebda da dabrundeboda

saqarTveloSi, samudamod CaiSala. saqarTvelo ki Zalzed mniSvnelovani baza iyo mTels

kavkasiaSi. mxolod ase mougebdnen rusebs. wagebis Semdeg maT gamsaxurdia aRar awyobT da

igi mokles! amitom, rac viwinaswarmetyvele 1993 wels, yvelaferi asruldeba.

1970 wels didi britaneTis dazveris TanamSromelma bernard liuisma merikis SeerTe-

buli Statebis prezidentis _ karteris administracias SesTavaza sabWoTa kavSiris

destabilizaciis gegma. liuisi kavkasiasa da Sua aziaSi islamuri ukmayofilebis gamowve-

vis gziT seriozuli areulobebis dawyebas sruliad SesaZleblad miiCnevda. is, rasac

liuisi amerikelebs Tavazobda, iyo mxolod da mxolod im Zveli politikis axali versia,

romelsac didi britaneTi asi wliT adre iyenebda mefis ruseTis winaaRmdeg.

ruseTis winaaRmdeg sabrZolvelad Crdilokavkasiel xalxTa (saqarTvelos CaTvliT)

konfederaciad gaerTianebis, Tavmoyris winadadeba pirvelad 1830 wels wamoayena lordma

palmerstonma. TiTqmis erTi saukunis Semdeg ki, 1918 wels, britaneTis sagareo saqmeTa

ministri lordi kerzoni TavgamodebiT uWerda mxars kavkasiaSi mTielTa respublikis

Seqmnas, romelSic gaerTiandebodnen afxazeTi, daRestani, CeCneTi, oseTi, yabardo da adiRea...

sabWoTa kavSiris daSlis Sedegad 1990 wlis bolosTvis Seqmnili situacia da

ruseTTan konfrontaciis paTosi xels uwyobda erTiani kavkasiuri saxlis ideis gaaqti-

urebas. Tavad es saxli ideis avtorebs sxvadasxvagvarad warmoedginaT: saubari midioda

xan kavkasiur parlamentze, xan ki evrokavSiris tipis gaerTanebaze. Tumca ideis avtorebi

ar iTvaliswinebdnen, rom aseTi tipis gaerTaneba dafuZnebulia saerTo msoflmxedvelo-

baze (maT Soris, religiaze), saerTo faseulobebze, saerTo ekonomikur sistemaze, saerTo

sainformacio sivrceze da sxva faqtorebze, romlebic im droisaTvis kavkasiaSi ar

arsebobda. amitom saerTo kavkasiuri saxlis Seqmnis procesi deklaraciis dones ar

gascilebia.

am ideis xorcSesxmis Taviseburi mcdeloba iyo kavkasiis mTiel xalxTa konfederacia,

romelic odnav mogvianebiT kavkasiis xalxTa konfederaciad gadakeTda. misi pirveli

yriloba 1989 wlis 25-26 agvistos gaimarTa soxumSi.

aqve gTavazobT nawyvets `uol sTriT jornalSi~ gamoqveynebuli statiidan `poli-

tikuri avanturizmi anu ra aris kavkasiis xalxTa konfederacia~ (avt: endriu higinsi da

gregori uaiti).

`1989 wels soxumSi gamarTul yrilobaze delegatebis winaSe sityviT gamovida

yabardo-balyareTis saxelmwifo universitetis docenti, iuridiul mecnierebaTa kandi-

dati, kgb-s yofili informatori, axal rwmenaze `moqceuli~ mebrZoli musa Sanibovi.

swored igi gaxldaT prezidenti kavkasiis xalxTa konfederaciisa anu im organizaciisa,

romelmac Crdilo kavkasiis istoriaSi sabediswero roli Seasrula. misi TqmiT, saqarTve-

los xelisufleba faSisturi meTodebiT moqmedebda da amisaTvis maT niurnbergis

procesze bevrad sastiki sasamarTlo elodaT. soxums, rogorc konfederaciis dedaqalaqs

da Sav zRvaze gasasvlel fanjaras, ekisreboda gansakuTrebuli strategiuli roli. Tavad

afxazeTi ki ganixileboda

rogorc konfederantTa plac-

darmi saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg

brZolisaTvis~.

* * *

`es yeyeCi Zveli rusi gen-

erali, TviTon rom brma iar-

aRia politikosebs Soris,

bolomde azrze ar aris.

hoda, ausruldeba, rac 1992

wels viwinaswarmetyvele...

dudaevs gasaxurdias bedi

elis!~

asec moxda. CeCneTis pirvel-

ma prezidentma gaiziara saqarTve-

los pirveli prezidentis

tragikuli bedi. 1996 wlis 22

aprils yofili sabWoTa kavSiris

samxedro sahaero Zalebis gen-

erali, axla ukve CeCneTis prez-

identi johar dudaevi CeCneTis dasavleTSi, urus-martinovskis raionSi, sofel gexi-

CusTan axlos mokles. mis jips rusuli bombdamSenis _ `su-24~-is marTvadi raketa

moxvda, romelic dudaevis mobiluri telefonis signalze amoqmedda. erTi versiiT,

CeCneTis prezidenti sikvdilis win telefoniT Zalze cnobil rus Jurnalists esaubre-

boda, sxva monacemebiT ki satelefono saubari dudaevsa da cnobil rus biznesmen

konstantine borovois Soris warmoebda da isini SeiaraRebuli konfliqtis daregu-

lirebis gzebze msjelobdnen.

CeCneTSi dResac bevri fiqrobs, rom pirveli prezidenti johar dudaevi aviadartymas

gadaurCa da mZimed daWrili malulad gaiyvanes sazRvargareT (mis adgilsamyoflad xan

TurqeTi saxeldeba da xan _ kviprosi) mavanTa azriT, am versiis sasargeblod metyvelebs

is faqti, rom prezidentis gardacvalebidan amdeni xnis Semdegac ki TviT uaxloesma

naTesavebmac ar ician, sad mdebareobs johar dudaevis saflavi. swored amitomac, 10 wlis

Semdegac bevrs swams, rom dudaevi isev dabrundeba samSobloSi.

msgavseba ori pirveli prezidentis beds Soris am niuansSic Cans. mkiTxvels emaxsovre-

ba is isteria, romelic saqarTveloSi zviad gamsaxurdias gardacvalebas mohyva. devnili

prezidentis TiTqmis arc erT momxres ar jeroda misi sikvdili da karga xans elodnen

mis triumfalur dabrunebas qveyanaSi.

komentari

faqtia, da mtkicebas ar saWiroebs is, rom islamuri fanatizmisa da rusuli imperi-

alizmis mTeli nagavi momarTulia kavkasiisaken, uwinaresad ki, saqarTvelosken. ar unda

dagvaviwydes, rom garda gareSe mtruli Zalebisa, saqarTvelos SigniTac aris CamorCenili,

komunisturad moazrovne, uerovnebo da mokosmopolito Zalebi da swored amis gamo

arsebobs saSiSroeba imisa, rom rusul-kavkasiuri kvanZis gaxsna swored saqarTveloSi an

saqarTvelosTan dakavSirebiT moxdeba. sxvaTa Soris, amis niSnebi araerTxel dafiqsirda

kidec. ruseTis imperiul-saldafonurma Zalebma araerTxel dauSves didi Secdoma Cveni

qveynis mimarT da es Secdomebi samxedro-politikur avantiurebSi gamoixata. rac ufro

aqtiurad dauWeren am avantiurebs mxars zemoT CamoTvlili Zalebi, miT ufro swrafad

gaTavisufldeba qarTul-rusuli urTierTobebi idioturi politikisa da sibinZurisagan.

xolo rac ufro mobilizebuli da gaerTianebuli Sexvdeba am gardauval Sejaxebas

qarTveli eri, miT naklebmtkivneuli iqneba CvenTvis Sinaganwmendisa da ruseT-saqarTvelos

urTierTobaTa mowesrigebis procesi. es saSuri saqmea, vinaidan es regioni kvlav denTiT

savse kasrs warmoadgens ruseTisaTvis da aravin icis, rodis afeTqdeba CrdiloeT kavkasia.

rac ufro Wianurdeba CeCnuri sakiTxi, miT ufro matulobs CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi

destabilizaciis safrTxe, radgan adgilobrivi xelisufleba Tavidan bolomde korum-

pirebulia da umaqnisi, mZvinvarebs damnaSaveoba da umuSevroba, xdeba usaSinelesi teraqtebi,

sul ufro ikidebs fexs vahabizmi; amas emateba isic, rom mZlavrobs religiuri faqtori

da, rogorc Cans, swored es iTamaSebs gadamwyvet rols CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi seriozuli

antirusuli gamosvlebis dawyebaSi.

(politologi zurab mWedliSvili)

saqarTvelos daSla ruseTis kavkasiaSi gansaxorcielebeli politikis erT-

erTi mTavari mizani gaxldaT. am mzakvruli Canafiqris gasamarTleblad rus

geopolitikosebs msofliosaTvis hqondaT Semdegi `myari argumentebi~: umadurma

qarTvelebma orasi wlis win sakuTari problemebis gadasaWrelad moiwvies rusebi

kavkasiaSi da aiZules isini maTTvis ebrZolaT da sisxli daeRvaraT. axla ki

uaryves isini da cdiloben, gaaZevon (saerTod, rusi geopolitikosebisTvis marto

qarTvelebi ki ara, yvela kavkasieli umaduria). arada, am versiis Tanaxmad, saqarTve-

lo erTian saxelmwifod sabWoTa periodSi Camoyalibebula da amaSi lomis wili

swored ruseTs miuZRoda. amitom, rogorc ki ruseTi datovebda kavkasias da

saqarTvelos misi mxardaWera moakldeboda, Cveni qveyana ver SeZlebda saxelmwifoe-

briobis SenarCunebas da is, ubralod, daiSleboda.

unda aRiniSnos, rom rusi geopolitikosebis es versia Zalze damajereblad

gamoiyureboda, radgan saqarTvelom dakarga afxazeTi da samaCablo, ver akontroleb-

da aWaras aslan abaSiZis dros, xolo javaxeTze centraluri xelisuflebis

gavlena susti iyo.

sabolood saqarTvelo iZulebuli gaxda daTanxmeboda ruseTis politikur

xelmZRvanelobas TanamegobrobaSi Sesvlaze. amis samagierod ruseTs CvenTvis unda

`daebrunebina~ afxazeTi da samaCablo da dagvxmareboda qarTuli armiis aRm-

Seneblobis saqmeSi. es, faqtobrivad, iyo `giorgievskis traqtatis~ Tanamedrove

versia, romlis gamoisobiTac saqarTvelo SesaZloa zustad iseTsave mdgomareobaSi

aRmoCeniliyo, rogorSic 200 wlis win.

ruseTma, raRa Tqma unda, ar Seasrula pirobebi da maTma analitikosebma situ-

aciis Seswavlis Semdeg pirdapir ganacxades: `ruseTi afxazeTsac SeinarCunebs,

cxinvalis regionsac da gavlenasac Tavad saqarTveloze!~

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`axla dudaevis, CeCen-inguSTa da osTa jeri dadga!sakuTar saxlSi iwvneven rusebis avantiurebs da San-taJebs. vnaxav erTi, rogori vaJkacebi arian CeCnebi daras gaxdeba kavkasiis xalxTa konfederacia. sisxlistbaSi abanavebs mas ruseTi~.

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kaci saTaveSi~.

saqarTvelos prezidents Careven iran-israelis politikaSi.

1994 weli, 19 marti, saRamos 9 saaTi.

modis mesame Zala, Zlieri pirovneba; gansakuTrebiT Zlieria mecnieruli xaziT: icis,

ras niSnavs kosmiuri energiebis Zala, ra aris winaswarmetyveleba!!! modis periodi, roca

aseTi Zalebis daxmarebiT qveynebi unda gadarCnen. sxvanairad arc iqneba. mas daviTis

varskvlavi danaTis. es niSnavs daviTis sibrZnes. igi did pativs scems mas. es axali

partiaa, romelic Camoyalibdebda momavalSi. am partiaSi bevri mecnieri iqneba gaerTianeb-

uli. Camoyalibdeba erTiani Wkviani tvini, romelic daeufleba uzarmazar energias.

seqtemberi- oqtomberi... dro? yvela televizia da radio erTi periodi am partiaze

ilaparakebs. – isini moedebian sazRvargareTs. did simpatiebs imsaxureben. nel-nela

moikreben Zalas da yovelgvari propangadis gareSe ikaveben pirvel adgils mTavrobaSi.

misi saxeli isev giorgia, anu giorgi brwyinvale. sainteresoa ara? (Tvalebis sisuste,

saTvaleebs vxedav. operacia gaukeTda muclis areze, guli sustia, nervozuli formac

ixsneba, magram yvelanairi rTuli forma ascdeba yvela sferoSi). igi brwyinvale ga-

momgonebelia, Zalzed niWieria, oRond yovelTvis ganicdis energiis naklebobas. es saSiSia.

ori bavSvi hyavs: gogona da biWi.

gamsaxurdiasTan erTad gaqrebian asaTiani, wereTeli, Wanturia-sariSvili, Tamriko

CxeiZe da sxvani. isini warsulad darCebian. maT unda moespoT gamsaxurdia _ zviadizmi.

isini unda mospos prezidentma. da mere modis giorgi brwyinvale. prezidenti arenidan

gamarjvebuli wava da modis mecnierTa partia – tvini saqarTvelosi iwyebs sunTqvas da

azrovnebas; gayinuli tvini iwyebs galxobas da ibadeba axali erTiani saqarTvelo.

Secdomas aravin uSvebs. aq Cveni energiis roli umniSvnelovanesia. TviTonac icis es da

amiT moigebs kidevac. dRes es winaswarmetyveleba ucxo da bundovania yvelasTvis, magram

es yvelaferi sinamdvilea.

1994 weli, 1 aprili, dRis 12 saaTi.

xedvaSi TeTri jvaria saqarTvelos Tavze. dgeba saqarTvelos siwmidis da gamravlebis

wlebi. saqarTvelo xelSeuxebeli zona iqneba. dRevandel politikur moRvaweTagan mo-

mavalSi verc erTs vxedav mTavrobis xaziT. isini erTi xelis mosmiT qrebian TiTqos.

marTlac saSineli periodi gadaitana saqarTvelom! _ ase vityviT momavalSi. Sav zRvaze

saqarTvelo yvelaze Zlieri iqneba. SevalT natoSi! im dros ruseTi Zalian dasustebuli

iqneba. muslimebi daupirispirdebian. ukve sruldeba rac 1992 wels viwinaswarmetyvele

ruseTze, amitomac ruseTs sakuTari Tavi ainteresebs da ara sxvebi.

imas, rasac vxedavT rom moxdeba msoflioSi, saqarTvelo marTlac gadaurCeba; gadaur-

Ceba ganadgurebas, radgan momavalSi zogierTi erovneba waiSleba saqarTveloSi. gaqreba,

magaliTad, saxeli `afxazeTi~ – waiSleba. aseTi waSlis forma daemuqreba CeCneTsac

(dudaevs gasaxurdias bedi elis).

mecnieruli xaziT saqarTvelo Zlierdeba da rusebis mier daxSuli karebi iReba!

qarTuli mecnieruli ideebi gaakvirvebs msoflios, iseve rogorc Cemi winaswarmetyvele-

bebi. Tavad Cvenc ki gagvikvirdeba, ramdeni niWieri adamiani, fenomeni gvyolia yvela dargSi.

es realobaa! WadrakSi, magaliTad, momavali dedofali jer pataraa, 9 – 10 wlisa.

saqarTvelos wlebis ganmavlobaSi ganadidebs patara nino!

fexburTSi axali gundi iqmneba isev; modis axali Zala, romelic msoflios gaakvirvebs.

xelovnebasa da gamogonebebze aRar vlaparakob. vxedav zamTris olimpiadebs bakurianSi.

Savi zRvispireTi soxumidan baTumamde (anu soWidan – TurqeTis sazRvrebamde) erT-

erTi ulamazesi kuTxe iqneba. wava axali proeqtebiT muSaoba, mSenebloba. arqiteqturul

ideebs mogvawvdian, anu daamuSaveben amerikelebi, evropelebi... yvela CaerToba. SevimuSavebT

Cais axal teqnologias ̀ kolxeTis medeas~. balaxebs anu Cais, romelsac sruli mowoneba

da aRiareba elis, TviT CineTi da indoeTi Seisyidis, radgan es sakvirveli balaxi izrdeba

mxolod kolxeTSi.

qarTvelebma daiwyes warsulis, istoriis amoqeqva. ras da rogor moqmedebdnen mefeni?

aseve daiwyeben Zveli, warsulis ekonomikis Seswavlas. e.i. sad modioda mdidari marcvleu-

li, sad ra xarobda ukeTesad da yvelafers Tavis adgilze daawyoben. sxva qveynis kakali,

kartofili, stafilo da yurZeni arc erT SemTxvevaSi ar xarobs qarTul miwaSi!!! aseTma

Semotanam gaanadgura Zvirfasi nergebi da marcvleulobani. amitom mogvaqvs da movaSenebT

warsulis nergebs, vTesavT naTesebs da isev moZlierdeba qarTuli sofeli; miwa ivseba, xvavi

da dovlaTiT gaivseba saqarTvelo. vazi _ mSveneba qarTvelTa da simbolo qarTveli kacisa,

ubrundeba qarTul miwas! meRvineoba didad ganviTardeba da Cveni Rvinoebi pirvel

adgilsac daikaveben msoflioSi.

mesxeT-javaxeTi iqneba erT-erTi Zlieri samiwaTmoqmedo regioni saqarTveloSi.

abibindeba puri, Wvavi, seli... selis qarxnebsac vxedav. gaixarebs mravali nargavi da naTesi.

mesxeT–javaxeTi momavalSi gulia saqarTvelosi!

Siraqis velebze uzarmazar programas ganaxorcieleben da saerTod, mTels saqarTvelos

moedeba glexis _ qarTveli kacis marjvena da vxedav im dros, roca saqarTvelos aravisi

araferi daWirdeba (anu produqti)!!!

mTel saqarTvelos ise moefineba cxvris farebi, rom aseTi raodenoba, mgoni arc erT

saukunes axsovs. mecxoveleoba gansakuTrebiT dasavleTSi, kolxeTis dablobze ikidebs fexs.

da saidan es yvelaferi? es imitom xdeba, rom yvelafers mecnierebi udganan saTaveSi,

mcodneni Tavis saqmisa. magaliTad, ministri soflis meurneobisa mecnieria miwisa da

soflisa! aseTi gamomgoneblebisa da mecnierebis wyalobiT (gansakuTrebiT istorikosebisa)

erTiandeba warsuli da momavali saqarTvelos dadebiTi mxareebi. mecnierTa wyalobiT

saqarTvelo erT-erTi Zlieri qveyanaa msoflioSi.

1994 weli, 21 aprili, saRamos 10 saaTi.

CineTi

CineTi momavalSi Zalian daiZabeba. iwyeba cvlilebebi qveyanaSi, anu didi ̀ perestroika~,

rogorc rusebi eZaxian. magram es gadatrialeba tragikuli ar iqneba CineTisaTvis; ruseTi

Seecdeba CineTTan kontaqtebis damyarebas, magram molaparakebebi CaiSleba. rodesac mus-

limebi daupirispirdebian qristianebs, CineTi jer muslimebis mxareze gadaixreba, magram

mere uaryofen am pozicias da dadgebian calke, rogorc meTvalyureni da aranair omSi ar

gaerevian. is, rasac dRes vwinaswarmetyveleb, momavalSi Zalian Zvirfasi informacia iqneba!

CineTi icavs Tavis sarwmunoebas, sxvasTan araviTari kavSiri ara aqvs da am sarwmunoebriv

oms did codvad miiCnevs. magram budizmi dedamiwaze mainc ar imefebs. isev jvari,isev qriste!!! igi kvlav ibadeba, magram ara rogorc kravi,aramed rogorc mefeTa-mefe, rogorc lomi! sxva sarwmunoeba fexsverasdros moikidebs dedamiwaze. CineTSi didi gadatrialebebi yvelas SeaSfoTebs, magram

am SemTxvevaSi RmerTi maT Zalas ar aZlevs. ruseTi, rogorc yovelTvis, aurevs. Jirinovski

uaryofiTi da gamaRizianebeli ideebiT dgeba CineTis winaaRmdeg. CineTis mTavroba ofi-

cialurad aukrZlavs Jirinovskis CineTSi Casvlas, mas gaaZeveben. ruseTis mTavroba

cdilobs samxedro sakiTxebze molaparakebas CineTTan, magram uars miiRebs. ruseTsa da

CineTs Soris ganxeTqilebaa. CineTi amis gamo `esenges~ muslimebs miexmareba farulad.

amaze rusebi ayayandebian, magram araferi gamouvaT! saerTod CineTi did rols iTamaSebs,

erTi periodi msoflios SeaSinebs. CineTs atomi aqvs da sxva saidumlo iaraRic. arc

iseTi sulelebi arian Turme. es yvelam unda gansazRvros. es, rac Seexeba bazebs, rasac

ruseTi iyenebda, sxvaTaSoris. zustad es aris gasarkvevi. faqtobrivad ruseTma warsulSi

CineTi moamaraga da dRes es Zalian cudi faqtia, risi waSlac surT rusebs, magram ver

SeZleben. rusebi TavisdaWirad qmnian yvelafers. amazec mwared ageben pasuxs. CineTi zurgs

Seaqcevs ruseTs.

komentari

ruseTsa da CineTs Soris urTierTobebi am etapze mSvidia da dalagebuli. yovel

SemTxvevaSi, ase Cans erTi SexedviT. Tumca, gamoricxuli ar aris, momavalSi am or qveyanas

Soris ganxeTqilebis mizezad iqces sazRvrebis sakiTxi.

ruseT-CineTis saxelmwifo sazRvari 300 welze meti xnis ganmavlobaSi yalibdeboda

da es procesi dResac ar aris dasrulebuli. sazRvris formirebaze warsulSi did

gavlenas axdenda da axlac axdens am ori qveynis ekonomikuri da samxedro-politikuri

wonis cvalebadoba. ruseT-CineTis sazRvari mxolod geopolitikuri samani rodia; is

erTmaneTisgan gamoyofs, acalkevebs gansxvavebul kulturebs, civilizaciebs, demografiul

da politikur sistemebs. Tumca kulturaTa saxvadasxvaoba xels namdvilad ar uSlis

CineTs ruseTis sazRvrispira raionebis aTvisebaSi.

ruseT-CineTis sazRvris demarkaciaze muSaoba 1999 wlidan mimdinareobs. dReisaTvis

kvlav gansaxilveli rCeba ori sadavo ubnis sakiTxi, romelic Senelebuli moqmedebis

naRmiviT devs or qveyanas Soris da nebismier dros SeiZleba iqces seriozuli dapiri-

spirebis mizezad.

saqme isaa, rom ruseTi ver axerxebs efeqturad gamoiyenos CineTTan mezobloba.

sazRvrebze mravalwlianma ukontrolo vaWrobam maTi Rrma kriminalizacia gamoiwvia.

ruseTma ukve dakarga ramdenime aTeuli miliardi dolari, romelic CineTidan Semotani-

li saqonlis ganbaJebidan unda mieRo. garda kontrabanduli saqonlis moZalebisa Cndeba

sxva problemebic. kerZod, iafi Cinuri saqonlis moWarbeba sazRvrispira raionebSi did

problemas uqmnis SedarebiT ZviradRirebuli rusuli warmoebis produqciis gasaRebas;

gansakuTrebiT im SemTxvevaSi, Tu es saqoneli ruseTisave, magram sakmaod Sori regionidanaa

Semosatani. gamodis, rom ganubaJebeli saqonlidan dakarguli miliardebis garda ruseTi

sakuTar qveyanaSi kargavs gasaRebis bazarsac.

erT-erTi yvelaze mTavari problema, romelsac sazRvris sakiTxebis mougvarebloba aCens,

gaxlavT Cinelebis mzardi migracia ruseTis nakleb dasaxlebul teritoriebze. sxvaTa

Soris, es problema sulac ar aris bolo wlebis geopolitikuri viTarebiT gamowveuli.

jer kidev asi wlis win afrTxilebda amis Sesaxeb petre stolipini dumis deputatebs:

`mWidrod dasaxlebul saxelmwifosTan mezoblobis pirobebSi SeuZlebelia Soreuli

aRmosavleTisa da cimbiris

teritoriebis dacva mi-

grantTa Semosevisagan. es mi-

webi auTvisebeli namdvilad

ar darCeba. Tu Cven leTargiu-

li Zili mogvereva, am mxares

ucxo wveni gaanoyierebs da

roca gamoviRviZebT, SesaZloa

rusuli mas mxolod saxe-

liRa hqondes SerCenili!~

rogorc Cans, premier sto-

lipinis SiSi usafuZvlo su-

lac ar yofila. amJamad

ruseTSi metnaklebad mudmi-

vad mcxovreb CinelTa raodenoba 200 aTasidan 2 milionamde meryeobs. aqedan gamomdinare,

Cndeba safrTxe imisa, rom ramdenime aTeuli wlis ganmavlobaSi CineTi nel-nela, nabij-nabij,

TandaTan daibrunebs im 1 mln kvadratul kilometrs, romelic XIX saukuneSi dakarga.

SesaZloa, swored es aSfoTebda saxelmwifo dumis vice-spikers, vladimer Jirinovskis,

roca erT-erT radiointerviuSi ganacxada: `CineTi ruseTs emuqreba mravalnairad, maT

Soris, demografiulad. CvenSi ukve ramdenime milioni Cineli cxovrobs da es saSiSia.

marTalia, germaniaSic cxovrobs ramdenime milioni Turqi, magram germanias TurqeTTan,

ruseT-CineTis msgavsad, 60 aTas kilometriani sazRvari ara aqvs. Tanac, Turqebi sul 60

milionia, Cinelebi ki 1 miliard 300 milioni!~

Jirinovskis gaqaneba rom viciT, savaraudoa, rom es mxolod Sesavalia. gamoricxuli ar

aris, Jirinovskim `molodini gagvimarTlos~ da kidev ufro mkveTri da ucenzuro

gamoxdomebi moawyos mezoblebis misamarTiT. aseT SemTxvevaSi, CineTis mTavrobis gadaw-

yvetileba misi `persona non gratad~ gamocxadebis Taobaze ar daigvianebs. Jirinovskis

amaze, albaT, didad ar dawydeba guli, vinaidan ama Tu im qveynidan gaZeveba misTvis axali

xili namdvilad ar aris. vladimer volfoviCs ukve samudamod aqvs akrZaluli vizitebi

saqarTveloSi, yazaxeTSi, latviaSi, norvegiaSi... mokled, evropis yvela qveyanasa da amerikis

SeerTebul StatebSi, anu lamis naxevar msoflioSi. ase rom, erTiT meti, erTiT naklebi.

volfoviCs es ver SeakrTobs!

* * *

`Cinur-rusuli cinizmi anu urTierToba CineTsa da ruseTs Soris `Tbilia

zedapirze, magram civia qveda fenebSi~

aseTi saTauriT gamoqveynda statia gazeTSi ̀ The Financial Times~ prezident puti-nis CineTSi vizitis Semdeg.

statiis avtoris azriT, 1950 wlis Semdeg am or qveyanas Soris interesTa aseTi

Tanxvedra ar dafiqsirebula. CineTs da ruseTs am etapze aerTianebT survili, ramenair-

ad daabalanson aSS-is uZleveloba da CaSalon prezident buSis maTTvis esoden araxel-

sayreli gegmebi msoflioSi demokratiis gavrcelebis Sesaxeb...

miuxedavad CineTisa da ruseTis prezidentebs Soris arsebuli urTierTpativiscemisa,

damokidebuleba am ori qveynis mTavrobebsa da xalxebs Soris Tbilia zedapirze, magram

civia qveda fenebSi...

es viTom gaumjobesebuli damokidebuleba am saxelmwifoebs Soris jerjerobiT

namdvilad ar uwyobs xels saerTaSoriso problemebis gadaWras. ruseTi cdilobs

Suamavlis roli moirgos iranis birTvul krizisTan dakavSirebiT, xolo CineTs igive

survili CrdiloeT koreasTan mimarTebaSi amoZravebs.

aseve zedapiruli da droebiTia ruseTisa da CineTis materialuri interesebi da

swored amitomac ver moutana man xangrZlivi Sedegi verc konkretulad am qveynebs da

verc zogadad msoflios...

Tumca, arsebobs erTi maRalteqnologiuri seqtori, romelSic CineTi da ruseTi,

urTierTdamokidebulebidan gamomdinare, TanamSromloben. magram, samwuxarod, CineTisTvis

yovelwliurad 3 mlrd dolaris Rirebulebis rusuli iaraRisa da teqnikis miyidva

araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar uwyobs xels mSvidobian globalizacias an am qveynebs Soris

arsebuli eWvebis Semcirebas...

gamoricxuli

ar aris, Jirino-

vskim kidev uf-

ro mkveTri da

ucenzuro gamo-

xdomebi moawyos.

1994 weli, 11 Tebervali, saRamos 8 saaTi.

iwyeba sazRvargareTis firmebis Semosvla saqarTveloSi _ didi proeqtebiT Semosvla.

kuponi qreba... qarTuli valuta, fuli, bankebi... am programaze imuSaveben amerikaSi, roca

prezidenti Sexvdeba klintons. amerika isev dagvexmareba. faqtobrivad sruldeba, rac 1992

wels viwinaswarmetyvele. Tu ufro win gavixedebi, vxedav Zalian didi cvlilebebs, modis

is mesame Zala, romlis aRweris survili srulebiT ara maqvs. jer is programa unda

asruldes bolomde, rac viwinaswarmetyvele. mere maqvs, ufleba, gavideT win.

afxazeTi da samaCablo – didi gamarjveba.

sazRvrebi iketeba sruliad saqarTvelosi.

yvela Tavis adgilze dadgeba; rac Seexeba mTavrobas, rogorc vTqvi: ̀ ori partia, cxra

6

1994 weli, 22 aprili, saRamos 5 saaTi.

azia

indoeTi

azia aireva, jer erTmaneTs daerevian, mere SeerTdebian;

SeerTeba exeba muslimebs; indoeTSi ufro gamZafrdeba

sarwmunoebrivi omi. vxedav, didi cecxli dainTeba indoeT-

Si. Sejaxebebi _ romlis SeCereba SeuZlebeli iqneba da

indoeTis mTavrobac iZulebuli Seiqmneba, muslimebze moax-

dinos zewola da Seaviwrovon! amiT TiTqos omis mdgomar-

eobas aicilebs da Cawynardeba yvelaferi. muslimebi ikete-

religiuri omi indoeTSi

eTis specsamsaxurebma `mtruli nacionaluri moR-

vaweobis centrebad~ miiCnies (amasTan erTad spec-

samsaxurebma isic gaarkvies, rom indoeTSi arsebobs

uamravi ukanono muslimuri saswavlebeli da meCe-

Ti, romlebic aseve eqvemdebarebodnen daxurvas). am

winadadebis iniciatori indoeTis premier-ministris

moadgile kriSna adfani gaxlavT.

* * *

asrulda indoeTTan dakavSirebuli winaswar-

metyvelebis meore nawilic, sadac saubaria qveyanaSi

Savi Wiris gaCenis saSiSroebaze.

Savi Wiri _ baqteriuli bunebis yvelaze saSi-

Si infeqcia, romelic garkveul pirobebSi gri piviT

gadamdebia da vrceldeba haer-wveTovani gziT.

1994 wels indoeTis qalaq suratSi ifeTqa Savi

Wiris epidemiam, romelsac mZime Sedegebi mohyva: qvey-

ana datova 600 aTasma ltolvilma da indoeTs

umkacresi saerTaSoriso sakarantino sanqciebi dau-

weses; pirdapirma ekonomikurma danakargebma 600 mln

dolari Seadgina da, rac yvelaze mTavar-ia, daiRupa 855 adamiani.

1892 wlis Semdeg es iyo indoeTSi Savi Wiris

yvelaze masStaburi epidemia. maSin avadmyofobas ram-

denime milioni adamiani emsxverpla.

da ai, 2002 wlis 13 Tebervals CrdiloeTis

Stat ximaCal-pradeSSi mecnierTa mier Catarebulma

gamokvlevebma daadastura, rom indoeTs kvlav Savi

Wiri daatyda Tavs. haT-qoTis raionSi, sadac pirve-

li avadmyofebi daregistrirdnen, saswrafod Cai-

tanes da ufasod daariges ramdenime milioni rupi-

is Rirebulebis antibiotikebi.

* * *

`indoeTSi iqneba miwisZvra.. .da saerTod, indoeTi gadarCeba

saSinel warRvnas~.

2005 wlis 8 oqtombers indoeTis or StatSi _

jamusa da qaSmirSi 7 balis simZlavris miwisZvras

didi ngreva da msxverpli mohyva. pirveli monaceme-

biT daiRupa 237 da daiWra 600 adamiani. mogvi-

anebiT es cifrebi gaizarda da daRupulTa raode-

nobam 1 300 kacs miaRwia. xolo ngrevas arnaxuli

masStabi hqonda: miwasTan gasworda 32 aTasi Senoba

da usaxlkarod darCa milionobiT adamiani. indoeT

bian, awyoben arnaxul terorebs, mTavrobasac Seexebian da

amis gamo, daiwyeben muslimTa gandevnas indoeTidan!

indoeTs gadauvlis Savi Wiri, romelic didi raode-

nobis sicocxles mospobs; iqneba miwisZvra. momavalSi

mTavrobaSi modis qali, romelic indoeTs yvela rTuli

momentidan gamoiyvans. igi Zalian Wkviani pirovnebaa. sxvaTa

Soris, minda aRvniSno, rom vxedav, muslimebSi daiwyeben

mRvdlebis xocvas da eklesiebis ngrevas, faqtobrivad, ina-

direben maTze. romis papi mouwodebs msoflios qris-

tianebs gaerTiandnen am Zaladobis winaSe da ase daiwyeba

dapirispireba. da saerTod, indoeTi gadarCeba saSinel war-

Rvnas. qali-prezidenti indoeTs kargad aqvs dacdili.

komentari

indoeTi _ mravalsaukunovani istoriis qveyana,

romelmac praqtikulad ar icoda religiuri omebi,

bolo aTwleulSi muslimTa (romelTa raodenoba

indoeTis mTliani mosaxleobis daaxloebiT 12 pro-

cents Seadgens) da induistTa dapirispirebis cecx-

lovan kerad iqca.

religiur niadagze warmoSobili uTanxmoeba se-

riozul, mZime Sedegebis mqone teraqtebsa da Seiar-

aRebul dapirispirebaSi gadaizarda.

2002 wlis TebervalSi Stat gujaraTSi erTi

kviris manZilze mimdinareobda brZolebi, romleb-

sac, gavrcelebuli informaciiT, ori aTasze meti

muslimis sicocxle Seewira. qaosi da uwesrigoba

muslimi teroristebis mier induisti mom-

locvelebiT (induri organizaciis aqtivistebiT)

savse matareblis afeTqebas mohyva, romelmac 59

adamiani imsxverpla. swored amis gamo iZies Suri

induistebma ase sastikad.

xelisuflebas ZalRone ar dauzogavs xocva-

Jletis SesaCereblad, magram amaod. 2002 wlis mart-

Si indoeTis mTavrobis gadawyvetilebiT, samarTal-

damcavi organoebis TanamSromlebma morigi sisx-

liani Setakebis Tavidan asacileblad erTdrou-

lad 19 aTasi (!!!) adamiani daapatimres. mTavrobam

sammilionnaxevrian qalaqSi policiisa da armiis

damatebiTi SeiaraRebuli jgufebi SeuSva sapatru-

lod, wesrigis dasamyareblad. Statis 26 qalaqSi

komendantis saaTi gamocxadda, magram saqmes verc

aman uSvela. mas Semdeg, rac dapirispirebulma mx-

areebma erTmaneTs TviTnakeTi bombebi dauSines, poli-

cias da armias xelisuflebam amboxebulTa adg-

ilze likvidaciis brZaneba misca.

bolo aTwleulSi es iyo yvelaze sisxlism-

Rvreli Setakeba induistTa da muslimTa dapiri-

spirebis istoriaSi. msxverplis raodenobiT man

gadaaWarba 1993 wlis bombeiSi momxdar areulobas,

roca qalaqis quCebSi mimdinare brZolebSi 800

adamiani daiRupa.

samwuxarod, 2002 wlis martSi indoeTis xe-

lisuflebis mier gatarebul RonisZiebebs droebi-

Ti efeqti hqonda, vinaidan mxolod mcire xniT

SeaCera religiuri omi. male muslimi eqstrem-

istebi kvlav gaaqtiurdnen da seqtemberSi Tavs

daesxnen induistur taZars maSin, roca iq ramden-

ime aseuli mlocveli imyofeboda. taZridan xuTasam-

de adamianis gamoyvana SeZles. daiRupa 30 da mZ-

imed daiWra daaxloebiT amdenive induisti.

muslimuri safrTxe daemuqra induri kulturis

uZveles Zeglebs, maT Soris, Taj-mahals. pakistanSi

bazirebulma eqstremistulma dajgufebam isini ter-

aqtebis samizned gamoacxada. SesaZloa am vandalur

miswrafebas safuZvlad qalaq aiodxiaSi mdebare

muslimTa uZvelesi meCeTis dangrevac edos, romlis

adgilas induist-aqtivistebi sakuTari taZris age-

bas gegmaven. ase Tu ise, indoeTis xelisuflebam

Taj-mahali gansakuTrebuli dacvis qveS moaqcia.

garda imisa, rom mis garSemo SeiaraRebul jarisk-

acTa ramdenime fena iyo ganlagebuli, mavzoleumisken

mimaval gzaze ramdenime kilometris manZilze uw-

yvet jaWvad gamwkrivebuli policia detalurad

Cxrekda yvela manqanas, xolo uSualod mavzoleu-

mis teritoriaze Sesvlis win safuZvlianad mowm-

deboda TiToeuli adamiani. gamoricxuli iyo am

procedurisTvis Tavis arideba; mniSvneloba ar hqon-

da Cinsa da rangs, yvela Tanabrad valdebuli iyo

gaevlo es kordoni da Semnaxvel sakanSi Cebarebina

zedmeti nivTebi. kategoriulad ikrZaleboda mav-

zoleumSi sigaretis, sanTebelis, mobiluri tele-

fonis Setana. damTvalierebels ufleba eZleoda

Tan hqonoda mxolod fotoaparati, wyali da dam-

atebiTi winda (mavzoleumSi fexsacmliT Sesvla

ar SeiZleba).

marTalia, Taj-mahali gadarCa afeTqebas an raime

sxva saxis dazianebas, magram muslimi eqstremiste-

bi miwvdnen erT-erT mTavar induistur siwmides _

qalaq varanasiSi mdebare sankat-moCanis taZars. mim-

dinare wlis martis dasawyisSi uZlieresi afeTqe-

bis Sedegad taZari nangrevebad iqca da qveS moiy-

ola aTasobiT momlocveli. daiRupa 28 adamiani da

daiWra ramdenime aseuli.

sisxlismRvreli dapirispirebebi religiur

niadagze kvlavac grZeldeba da aravin icis, rodis

Sewydeba xocva-Jleta. miuxedavad imisa, rom indu-

istTa da muslimTa erTi nawili gulwrfelad

cdilobs danTebuli cecxlis Caqrobas, Sejaxebe-

bis SeCereba marTlac SeuZlebelia. indoeTis

xelisufleba realurad axdens zewolas muslime-

bze da erTgvarad, aviwrovebs kidec maT. mTavrobam

11 seqtembris teraqtis Semdeg miiRo gadawyvetileba,

daexuraT is meCeTebi da skolebi, romlebic indo-

is mTavrobam miwisZvriT dazaralebulTa dasaxmare-

blad 5 miliardi rupia (116 milioni dolari) gamoyo.

manamde ki, 2004 wlis 26 dekembers nikobarisa da

andamanis kunZulebTan warmoqmnilma cunamim 3 000 ad-

amiani Seiwira.

buneba ufro lmobieri gamodga da, danamdvilebiT

SeiZleba iTqvas, indoeTi warRvnas gadaurCa 2005 wlis

24 ivliss, roca nikobarisa da andamanis kunZulebTan,

10 kilometris siRrmeze momxdar 7,2 balis simZlavris

miwisZvras seriozuli cunami ar mohyva.

ase daafiqsira aparaturam 7,5

balis simZlavris miwisZvra, rom-

elsac arnaxuli ngreva mohyva.

7

1994 weli, 24 aprili, saRamos 4 saaTi.

giorgi brwyinvalis prezidentobis dros (davarqvaT mas gurami) mafia momZlavrebuli

iqneba saqarTveloSi. igi ekonomikas da yvelafers sxvas igdebs xelT. aq Zveli saxelisu-

flebo wris warmomadgenlebic arian, gandevnili zviadis dros. am periodSi saqarTvelos,

vxedav, Zalian gauWirdeba. magram prezidenti ̀ gurami~ daundobel brZolas gamoucxadebs

maT da gaimarjvebs kidec! sxvaTa Soris, aq omaniZe, xabuliani da sxvebi did rols

iTamaSeben. isini saqarTveloSi Camodian. omaniZesa da xabulians Soris moxdeba didi

ganxeTqileba. es Zalze mniSvnelovani Temaa, im dros aravin arafers moerideba. prezidenti

bevr rTul moments gaivlis, magram igi myari, saocrad Zlieri nebisyofis kacia, amitom

imarjvebs. gansakuTrebiT didi miRwevebi eqneba sazRvargareT! SevardnaZesac gauswrebs! am

dros omaniZem garkveulwilad didi roli unda Seasrulos. mas dasWirdeba uzarmazari

enerigiebi... vnaxoT... es kaci Zalian mZime gzas gaivlis; terorebs aRmofxvris da Zalzed

Zlier or mafiur dajgufebas gaanadgurebs. mokled, sazizRari periodi iqneba! da ase

gameordeba!

1994 weli, 5 maisi, dilis 6 saaTi.

dRes muslimebi gaerTianebulni arian. vxedav, msoflio momavalSi aireva. qristianebi

erTmaneTs spoben, qiSpobasa da siborotes ar eqneba sazRvari. amerika-germania, safrangeTi-

inglisi, italia-romi... Zala papisa uZluria. saerTod, ruseTis politika xels uwyobs

muslimebs. isini cecxliTa da maxviliT modian, qvas qvaze ar datoveben. ruseTi Zalian

cud dReSi Cavardeba! sad aris rusuli armia, rusuli floti? ar iarsebebs!!! ruseTma

Tavisi Zala qristianuli qveynebis ganadgurebas moandoma!!! es aris warRvna da dasja

adamianebisa, es aris meored mosvla! sawyali ruseTi!!! amdeni winaswarmetyveli da fenomeni

yavs ruseTs da mainc ver Secvlian bedisweras!

Cemi saqarTvelo ki Caketilia. RvTis dacviT rkals veraviTari miwieri Zala ver

gaarRvevs. es iqneba udidesi saswauli!!!

vxedav gadamwvar mindvrebs... miwa iwvis, yvelgan sisxlia, muslimTa daundobel moqmede-

bas sazRvari ara aqvs. adamiani SeZrwundeba. me TviTonac Zalian miWirs amis cqera.

gadawvaven da gaanadgureben yvelafers, rac ki gzad SexvdebaT: qristianuli kulturis

Zeglebs da ara marto maT, aramed yvelas da yvelafers!

saqarTvelos irgvliv ki iwmindeba da mSviddeba yvelaferi. uzarmazari energiebi icavs

saqarTvelos. asruldeba, rac 1993 wels viwinaswarmetyvele da yvela mixvdebiT, Tu ra

Zvirfasi informacia mivawodeT xalxs!

amin!

wereTeli – rogorc politikosi, scenidan qreba, anu gaaqroben! mis winaaRmdeg saqmes

aRZraven. Tu Wkua aqvs, droze unda gavides arenidan; bolos daiWeren, oRond arapoli-

tikurze!

rusudan beriZe – umniSvnelo figuraa. qreba, rogorc Tovli!..

mokled, dRes saqarTveloSi asea – `uZaRlo qveyanaSi katebs aknavleben~... modian

ZaRlebi da katebs gadaWamen.

1994 weli, 4 ivlisi, dRis 2 saaTi.

ruseT-ukrainis omi gardauvalia!!!! ruseTi ipyrobs ukrainas... belorusia, cimbiri,

`CuCmekebi~, buriatia da kidev sxva. e.i. ruseTs surs aucileblad SeinarCunos sabWoTa

kavSiris teritoria. ̀ esenges~ musulimebi xelidan gamoeclebaT, saqarTvelo ki _ pirvel

rigSi. CrdiloeT kavkasias, rogorc aRvniSne, Caketaven. es maTi samxreT sazRvaria. TiTqos

ucdian, rodis mova ukraina gons da belorusiasaviT gayveba ZaRliviT ukan! ruseTi

yvelafers daTmobs, magram ara ukrainas. ̀ didi ruseTi iwyeba kievis ruseTidan!!!~

ruseTs didi pretenziebi eqneba sazRvrebTan dakavSirebiT. kravCuki ruseTis dauZine-

beli mteria. seqtember-oqtomberi... ukraina Zlieria. siurprizebi rusebs! ukraina ruseTs

did dros waarTmevs. saqarTvelo gamoZvreba... saboloo jamSi, ruseTi ukrainaSi waagebs.

ruseTi wava daTmobebze. saswrafod cdilobs kavkasiaSi yvelaferi daalagos, raTa

ukrainas miubrundes; amitom kavkasias mTlad gaasufTavebs! saqarTvelosTan keTilme-

zoblur urTierTobaze modis. yvelafers daTmobs. aq igebs udides TamaSs saqarTvelo.

1994 weli, 25 ivlisi, 4 saaTi.

modis igi eSmaki – vin aris? aRsaniSnavia, rom koWlia, saSualoze maRali, monRolurad

viwroTvalebiania aSkarad, es araa sadam huseini. igi did politikosTa Soris rigiT

meoTxe – mexuTe iqneba. dRes ar Cans arenaze; didgvarovania, amayobs warsuli gvariSvilo-

biT, unda, rom aRadginos Zveli oqros urdos sazRvrebi, anu daipyros ruseTi! igi

ixsenebs oqros urdos batonobis xanas (uyvars istoria), amis Sesaxeb televiziiTac ki

gamoacxadeben, magram miuxedavad amisa rusebi dasawyisSi ar daijereben arafers da

skeptikurad Sexedaven am moqmedebebs.

omi daiwyeba Soreuli aziidan (CineTi, monRoleTi). centri iranSia. iaponia imeorebs

meore msoflio omisdroindel taqtikas – ar Caereva, daikavebs neitralitets. igi ar

endoba muslimebs sarwmunoebrivi sxvaobis gamo; radganac icis muslimTa sastiki moqmede-

ba. momavalSi aziis qveynebs Soris moxdeba didi ganxeTqileba, rac sabolood gadaarCens

saqristianos ganadgurebisagan (korea daiWers iaponiis mxares). ruseTi saSinel dartymas

miiRebs muslimebisagan. RmerTi sjis rusebs saqarTvelos, qristianuli jvris wabilwvi-

saTvis. amerika Tavs Seikavebs manam, sanam ruseTis dapyroba ar SeaSfoTebs sabolood; ris

Sedegadac amerika, inglisi, evropa erTiandeba ruseTis dasaxmareblad (ufro ki sakuTari

Tavis gadasarCenad). SeikavSireben iaponiasac da orive frontidan Seuteven muslimur

samyaros. muslimebi TiTqos mTel dasavleT evropas daipyroben III msoflio omis dros;

germania Tavs daixsnis, safrangeTs Zalian gauWirdeba, TiTqmis ingreva eifelis koSki.

monRoleTi

monRoleTsa da CineTs Soris situaciebi daiZabeba. monRoleTis respublika CineTs

mosTxovs im miwebs, romelic monRolebs ekuTvniT. es Zalian did Setakebas gamoiwvevs.

azia cecxlis alSi gaexveva. qristianebi didad ar Seiwuxeben Tavs da arc moimoqmedeben

arafers. monRoleTi iyureba ruseTisaken; ruseTi ukve ganawyebuli iqneba CineTze da

mTeli ZalebiT iwyebs monRolebisTvis xelSewyobas. es mdgomareoba xris CineTs erTi

periodi muslimebis mxareze. monRoleTi rusuli iaraRiT momaragdeba, yovelive momzad-

deba, raTa didi omi daiwyos. magram aq Caereva amerika, romelic mixvdeba ruseTis binZur

TamaSs da molaparakebebiT Tu dapirispirebebiT monRoleTs gonze moiyvans. cota Zalas

ki ixmaren, magram monRoleTi CixSi moemwyvdeva. monRoleTis ekonomikuri mdgomareoba,

sxvaTaSoris, Zalian aiwevs. monRoleTis nawarmi _ Zalze xarisxiani da mSvenieri,

gamoCndeba msoflio bazarze; puris marcvleulis nakleboba... da saerTod, marcvleulis

nakleboba. iqneba wyalTan dakavSirebuli problema. TiTqos wyali iwamleba. ruseTTan

kontaqti monRoleTs bevr rames waagebinebs, saboloo jamSi mixvdebian amas da ruseTTan

kontaqts wyveten. amis Semdeg monRoleTs 5 weli mainc dasWirdeba, rom welSi gaswordes.

komentari

sul TxuTmetiode wlis win sazRvari CineTsa da monRoleTs Soris, praqtikulad,

Caketili iyo. dRes ki CineTi monRoleTis umsxvilesi investori da mTavari savaWro

partnioria.

unda aRiniSnos, rom monRolTa erTi

nawili CineTTan mWidro urTierTobiT

maincdamainc aRfrTovanebulebi ar aris.

maT seriozulad aSinebT is faqti, rom

erT monRolze (maTi saerTo raodenoba

2,5 milionia) 520 Cineli modis. aR-

saniSnavia isic, rom CinelTa moZalebaSi

zogierTi ucxoeli biznesmenic xedavs

gangaSis safuZvels. maTi varaudiT, SesaZloa monRoleTSi ifeTqos nacionalizmma, romel-

ic moicavs yvela fenas: dawyebuli mTavrobidan damTavrebuli mwyemsebiT. maT yvelas

erTnairad eSiniaT CineTisa, romelic CaylapviT emuqreba monRoleTs.

Tumca specialistTa azriT, CineTTan urTierTobas monRoleTisTvis namdvilad moaqvs

sargebeli da Tanac Zalze seriozuli. swored ̀ Cinuri lokomotivis~ damsaxurebad unda

CaiTvalos is faqti, rom monRoleTis ekonomika swrafi tempiT, weliwadSi 5,5

procentiT izrdeba da ra masStabebs miaRwevs, aravin icis.

1994 weli, 23 aprili, dilis 9 saaTi.

TurqeTi

rogorc 1992 wels aRvniSne, TurqeTi sarwmunoebrivi omis aqtiuri monawile ar

iqneba. momavalSi iranTan mouva uTanxmoeba. amaze yvela ilaparakebs. SigniT TurqeTSi ki

garTuldeba situaciebi. iq macxovrebeli araTurqebi moawyoben terorebs. mTavroba mkacr

zomebs miiRebs. ramdenime arasasurvel toms (magaliTad, araTurqebis erT sofels)

gaaZeveben TurqeTidan da sxvebsac sastikad gauswordebian! TurqeTis mTavroba Secdomebs

dauSvebs. Wkviani demireli CixSi moemwyvdeva. SantaJebs irani mouwyobs. muslimur

samyaroSi daiwyeben farTo agitaciis gawevas TurqeTis winaaRmdeg. aq aRmosavleTis

saqmeSi Caereva prezidenti; jer iran-israelis konfliqtSi, mere TurqeT-iranis. adre

aRvniSne, prezidentis moqmedeba da kargi damokidebuleba muslimur samyarosTan saqarTve-

los gadaarCens-meTqi da asec iqneba! aRvniSnav, demirels Zalzed gauWirdeba; erTaderTi

gza saqarTvelos prezidentia, romelic xalisiT miexmareba. TurqeTi Sav zRvaze saqarTve-

los gverdSi amoudgeba! saberZneTsac ki dauTmobs saqarTvelosTan dakavSirebiT. gvinda

gavafrTxiloT TurqeTis prezidenti: am dros frTxilad unda iyos, Seecdebian mis

mokvlas, magram igi gadarCeba. sxvaTa Soris, misi mokvlis mcdelobaSi misive naTesavi

miiRebs monawileobas. aq irani iqneba CarTuli, imitom, rom kandidatura, romelic mova

demirelis Semdeg, sruliad akmayofilebs irans, magram yvela es cda CaiSleba. mere mixvdeba

TurqeTi iranis miznebs. mTeli TurqeTi zurgs Seaqcevs erTmorwmune irans. am situacie-

bze mTeli msoflio alaparakdeba. mere TurqeTi dawynardeba _ araviTari gadatrialeba,

araviTari sikvdili, RmerTi daicavs maT. mTavrobaSic ganxeTqilebebia. yvela erTmaneTis

winaaRmdeg wava! aqac RmerTi daamSvidebs. mere moxdeba mTavrobis Secvla, politikas

ramdenime moRalates CamoaSoreben. demireli Semdgom isev gaimyarebs bazas da damSviddeba

TurqeTi.

TurqeTSi gardaicvleba axalgazrda mecnieri _ politikuri moRvawe, razec demire-

lsac Zalzed daswydeba guli. erTi periodi prezidentma aucileblad unda imkurnalos.

mas saSinlad Seawuxebs saxsrebis anTeba da sxva ramec. TurqeTs momavalSi elis didi

gaWirveba, mere didi gamarjveba. es niSnavs, rom (madloba ufals) miwis piridan gaqrobas

aacdens maT RmerTi!!!

komentari

`TurqeTSi garTuldeba situ-

aciebi. iq macxovrebeli ara-

Turqebi moawyoben terorebs.

mTavroba mkacr zomebs miiRebs:

ramdenime arasasurvel toms

(magaliTad, araTurqebis erT

sofels) gaaZeveben TurqeTi-

dan da sxvebsac sastikad gau-

swordebian!~

Turquli presisTvis karga xania no-

mer pirvel Temad iqca gaxSirebuli

teraqtebi, romlebic qveynis sxvadasxva

qalaqebSi xdeba. ase magaliTad, 2003

wlis 15 noembers stambulSi ori sina-

gogis maxloblad moxda afeTqeba xolo

xuTi dRis Semdeg, 20 noembers, TviTmkv-

lelma teroristma asafeTqebeli niv-

TierebiT daTvirTuli manqaniT Seangria

didi britaneTis sakonsulos Senobis

kedeli. afeTqebis Sedegad daiRupa 28

da daiWra 450 adamiani. daRupulTa Soris

iyo didi britaneTis generaluri kon-

suli TurqeTSi.

teroristTa momdevno samizned iqca banki HSBC, romelic savaWro raionSi

mdebareobs da im droisTvis xalxiT iyo savse, da stambulis sacxovrebeli kvartle-

bi. yvela afeTqebas mohyva sakmao msxverpli (saerTo jamSi daiRupa 50-ze meti da

daiWra 700 adamiani), ris gamoc, saerTaSoriso presis SefasebiT, teraqtebis seria

TurqeTisTvis 11 seqtembrad iqca.

TurqeTis specsamsaxurebma sagamoZiebo samuSaoebis Catarebis Semdeg mTavrobas

warudgines gamoZiebis Sedegebi. teraqtebSi erT-erT mTavar damnaSaved gamocxadda

islamisti boeviki feridun ugurlu, metsaxelad ialCini. policias aqvs mtkice-

bulebebi imis Taobaze, rom ialCinma araerTxel gadakveTa qveynis sazRvari yalbi

es xrioki miwebi Zalian

mimzidveli eCvenebaT

Cinelebs. . .

da CaylapviT emuqreba

monRoleTs

dokumentebiT da erT-erTi aseTi gamgzavrebisas TurqeTidan gaurkveveli mimarTulebiT

gaiyvana col-Svili. Tavis droze is ibrZoda CeCneTSi da avRaneTSi `Talibanis~

razmebSi.

specsamsaxurebis monacemebiT, afeTqebebis momwyobi yvela teroristi momzadebas gadio-

da pakistanSi da `al-qaidas~ avRanur banakebSi.

rogorc Turquli sainformacio wyaroebi ityobinebian, bolo wlebSi momxdar

teraqtebze pasuxismgebloba mTlianad separatistul dajgufeba ̀ qurTebis mSromel-

Ta partias~ ekisreba. maTi moqmedeba bolo wlebSi imdenad gaaqtiurda, rom xelisu-

fleba iZulebuli gaxda radikaluri zomebisTvis miemarTa.

sul axlaxan cnobili gaxda, rom TurqeTis samxedro xelisufleba iranisa da

erayis sazRvrebTan didi raodenobiT saxmeleTo jarebs (daaxloebiT, mTeli Turqu-

li armiis mesameds), javSanteqnikas, aviacias da artilerias uyris Tavs. droebiT

aseve sazRvrispira provinciaSi gadava saxmeleTo jarebis sardlobis Stabic. da es

yovelive imisaTvis, raTa droulad aRkveTon da ar dauSvan qurTi boevikebis

qveyanaSi SemoWra.

TurqeTis xelisuflebisTvis cnobilia, rom CrdiloeT eraySi, TurqeTis sazR-

varTan axlos 3 000 qurTi boeviki imyofeba. rogorc adgilobrivi masmedia ityobin-

eba, marto erT banakSi 1 500 boeviki, maT Soris, 250 TviTmkvleli teroristi qalia.

imave banakSi inaxeba 3 tonamde plastikuri asafeTqebeli nivTiereba C-4 da gadasa-tani sazenito-saraketo danadgari.

sxvaTa Soris, CrdiloeT eraySi qurTuli banakebis ganadgurebis mizniT Turquli

armiis mosalodneli SeWris Taobaze Tavad premier-ministrma Taiif erdoRanma

gaafrTxila sazogadoeba jer kidev 2005 wlis Semodgomaze.

CNN-TYRK-is cnobiT, bolo sami wlis ganmavlobaSi ganadgurebulia 41 qurTi

boeviki, Sepyrobilia _ 385, xolo 600 nebayoflobiT Cabarda xelisuflebas. teror-

istTa winaaRmdeg mowyobil operaciebSi daiRupa 260 da daiWra 160 Turqi samxedro

mosamsaxure.

sul konfliqtis Sedegad, romelic `qurTebis mSromelTa partiam~ TurqeTis

samxreT-aRmosavleTSi damoukidebeli qurTistanis Seqmnis mizniT gaaCaRes, 37 000

adamiania daRupuli.

8

roca faqti Zalze jiutiaroca faqti Zalze jiutiaroca faqti Zalze jiutiaroca faqti Zalze jiutiaroca faqti Zalze jiutia

brZolebi moskovSi... ingreva yvelaferi. vxedav, modis dro, rodesac wiTeli moedani

sisxliT moirwyveba. moskovi xom (yovelTvis ase vxedavdi) Savi magiis centria dedami-

waze. swored aq, moskovSi, wiTel moedanze daxvreten am koWl, wiTelqudian eSmaks _ Savi

Zalebis patrons, romelic iwyebs III msoflio oms!

1994 weli, 1 dekemberi, dilis 10 saaTi.

afxazeTi? mainc omiT vibrunebT! vin Seva, amas ara aqvs mniSvneloba! ruseTi ukve sakmaod

dasustebulia, raTa SeZlos akontrolos sakuTari teritoriac ki! velodebi asrulebebs.

axla winaswarmetyveleba, Tuki rames davwer, hgavs analizebs. gazi... garTuleba eleqtro-

energiaze ruseTis namoqmedaria. bolomde surT saqarTvelos dacema, magram iseTi cecxli

waekidebaT momavalSi, rom namdvilad mecodebian!

CeCneTi – sawyisi sarwmunoebrivi omisa... rogorc viwinaswarmetyvele 1992 wels, erTi

periodi ruseTi TiTqos Caaqrobs am oms, magram verafers miaRwevs, kavkasiis omi grZeldeba

yarabaRis omiviT!

SevardnaZe amjerad gava? ukve sustdeba, misi varskvlavi midis momavalSi! amitom, rac

viwinaswarmetyvele, unda asruldes!

amerikaSi saTaveSi movlen respublikelebi. saqarTvelosTvis es Zalzed mniSvnelovani

SeiaraRebis dafinanseba. is ki ara, evropis qveynebmac daiwyes sakuTari SeiaraRebis dafinanse-

bis gazrda, radgan ruseTma putinis mosvlisTanave bevrad ufro agresiuli gaxada sakuTari

politika mezobeli qveynebis mimarT. amitom evropac da amerikac yvelafers iRonebs, raTa

ruseTis samxedro Zliereba samudamod Cabardes warsuls.

procesi ukve daiwyo. rusuli armia dRes demoralizebul, araorganizebul, dasavleTis

standartebTan SedarebiT maTxovrul xelfasze myof samxedro mosamsaxureTa da e.w

`kontraqtiorTa~ uzarmazar krebuls warmoadgens, sadac dezertiroba da mkvleloba

Cveulebriv movlenadaa qceuli, samxedro teqnika ki Zveldeba da nadgurdeba.

da kvlav respublikelTa poziciis Sesaxeb, romelic araerTxel daafiqsires amerikelebma

rusebTan sxvadasxva maRali donis Sexvedrebsa da saerTaSoriso konferenciebze, da romelic

SesaniSnavad Camoayaliba gavlenianma respublikelma senatorma jon makkeinma: aSS-isa da

mTeli dasavleTis damokidebuleba ruseTisadmi mniSvnelovanwilad iqneba ganpirobebuli da

koreqtirebuli imis mixedviT, Tu rogori urTierToba eqneba moskovs mezobel patara

qveynebTano. am politikas buSis administracia mizandasaxulad axorcielebs da vaSingto-

nis mxardaWeras saqarTvelom TiTqmis yoveldRiurad grZnobs ruseTTan garTulebuli

urTierTobis fonze.

ruseTic grZnobs, rom wavida is dro, roca msoflios `#1 vaJkaci~ iyo. is dRes

mxoloddamxolod regionaluri Zalaa. marTalia, dumis deputatebi gamwarebiT iqneven

muStebs da imuqrebian, magram maTi isteriisa aRaravis eSinia! prezidenti buSi marTlac

mkacri, principuli da nacionalisti pirovneba gamodga, romlisTvisac amerikis interese-

bia umTavaresi!

zurab mWedliSvili

_ rogor Sedga Tqveni pirveli Sexvedra, rogor moxvdiT qarTv-

el winaswarmetyvelTan?

_ qalbaton lelasTan Cemma megobarma, Temur iakobaSvilma mimiyvana.

Tavidan, ra Tqma unda, skeptikurad viyavi ganwyobili, magram...

_ misi pirvelive sityvebidan irwmuneT, rom is namdvili fenom-

enia?

_ pirveli sityvebi erTmaneTis gacnoba ufro iyo, vidre winaswarmetyvele-

ba. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom aseTi dasawyisiT qalbatoni lelasadmi Tavidanve

dadebiTad ganvewye.

_ Tu saidumlo ar aris, ra giTxraT pirvelad, daijereT Tu ara

da rogori iyo Tqveni reaqcia?

_ pirvelad ra miTxra, aRar maxsovs, magram mTeli saubris ganmavlobaSi

skepsisi da faqtebi CemSi erTmaneTs ebrZoda. sabolood faqtebma da

lelam gaimarjves.

_ ram ufro gagaocaT, warsulis Wvretam Tu momavlis

winaswarmetyvelebam?

_ gansakuTrebiT gamaoca warsulis zustma xedvam; swored aman damarw-

muna lela kakulias fenomenalurobaSi. momavalSi ra moxdeboda ar vico-

di, samagierod ukve momxdar faqtebs sad davemalebodi?

_ Tqvens ojaxze bevri isaubreT?

_ ki, ojaxze bevri melaparaka. Cems Svilze naTqvamma ki namdvilad

gamaoca. zedmetad zusti iyo yvelaferi.

_ pirveli vizitisas giTxraT, rom kvlav moxvdebodiT masTan?

_ ki. miTxra, kidev moxvalo, magram dro ar daukonkretebia. da ai, movedi

kidec...

_ rogorc vici, qalbatonma lelam Tqvens samSoblosa da prez-

identzec iwinaswarmetyvela...

_ marto Cems qveyanaze ki ara, msoflios bevri sxva saxelmwifos mo-

mavalze melaparaka; ra Tqma unda, Cemi samSoblos prezidentsac SevexeT.

_ qalbatoni lela sakuTar CanawerebSi aRniSnavs, rom amerikis

prezidenti Camova saqarTvelo-

Si . . .

_ es mec miTxra. albaT Camova,

ratomac ar unda Camovides?

(am faqtis komentariT mkiTxvels

Tavs ar SevawyenT. yvelaferi isedac

cnobilia. _ redaqcia)

_ amboben, rom amerikis prezi-

dents hyavs piradi naTelmxil-

veli.

_ klintonis piradi naTelmxil-

velebis Sesaxeb me ar msmenia, magram

reigans rom sakuTari astrologi

hyavda, amis Sesaxeb mTelma msofliom

icis.

_ Tqveni religia _ iudaizmi,

rogor uyurebs naTelmxil-

velebs?

_ iudaizmis mixedviT naTelmxil-

veloba RmerTisgan boZebuli niWia.

mTavaria gaarCio, vin aris namdvili

naTelmxilveli da vin Sarlatani.

_ rogor fiqrobT, aseTi

araCveulebrivi SesaZleblobeb-

is mqone adamians ra bedi eweo-

da amerikaSi? mousmendnen mas?

_ darwmunebuli var, amerikaSi udavod gamoCndeboda xalxi, vinc serio-

zulad dainteresdeboda aseTi maRali donis, gamorCeuli fenomeniT. vfiqrob,

rom mas saxelmwifo organoebi an msxvili biznes-struqturebi legalu-

rad an aralegalurad aucileblad Caayenebdnen Tavis, anu faqtobrivad

qveynis samsaxurSi.

vaSingtonSi „memkvidreobis fondis~ yofili sabWoTa kavSirisa da ruseTis

politikis, ekonomikisa da samarTlis wamyvani specialisti; xSirad gamodis

moxsenebebiT amerikis kongresis winaSe; konsultacias uwevs aRmasrulebel

xelisuflebasa da kerZo seqtors ruseTis, aRmosavleT da centraluri evropis,

kavkasiisa da centraluri aziis politikis sakiTxebSi.

iyo msoflio bankisa da saerTaSoriso korporaciebis konsultanti iseT

sakiTxebze, rogoricaa masmediis ganviTareba da sakanonmdeblo reformebi yo-

fil sabWoTa qveynebSi.

ariel qoens regularulad iwveven CNN-is, ABC-is, BBC-TV-is da „amerikis xmis~

gadacemebSi, romlebSic saubaria ruseTisa da evro-aziur sakiTxebze. aseve

regularulad qveyndeba misi statiebi gazeTebSi „vaSington taimsi”, „jornel

of komersi~ da sxva wamyvan gazeTebsa Tu JurnalebSi.

doqtori ariel qoeni aseve gaxldaT kalifornia-ruseTis savaWro asociaci-

is direqtorTa sabWos wevri; man uxelmZRvanela masmediis kvleviT proeqts

radio „TavisuflebisTvis~.

saqarTvelos mosaxleobas ariel qoenis saxeli oriode kviriswinandeli

satelevizio siuJetebidan emaxsovreba. saqme isaa, rom amerikelma eqspertma

gamoaqveyna statia, saTauriT `kremls saakaSvilis gadayeneba da saqarTveloSi

omis provocireba surs!~ lela kakuliasTvis ki es saxeli da gvari ukve karga

xania cnobilia martivi mizezis gamo _ 1996 wels is Cvens qveyanaSi Camovida

da qarTvel winaswarmetyvels ewvia. lela kakuliam miiRo stumari. amerikeli

didi yuradRebiT usmenda naTelmxilvelis TiToeul sityvas, magram SigadaSig

amerikul skepticizms avlenda da erTgvar gamocdas uwyobda winaswarmetyv-

els. ra Tqma unda, lela kakuliam `gamocda~ brwyinvaled Caabara. amitomac

aRelvebuli stumari wasvlisas gauTaveblad imeorebda, namdvilad Cems gulSi

ijdao da diasaxliss momaval vizitze aqedanve uTanxmdeboda.

oTxi wlis Semdeg ariel qoeni kvlav ewvia Tbilisel fenomens. misi aseTi

mZafri daintereseba qarTveli winaswarmetyveliT gansakuTrebiT iman gana-

piroba, rom lela kakulias winaswari xedvebi mxolod qoenis pirad cxovrebas

ki ara, misi samSoblosa da qveynis prezidentis bedsac Seexeboda.

ariel qoenma sakuTari STabeWdilebebis Sesaxeb maSin interviu misca Jur-

nal `axal dvritas~, romelic 1998 w. #1-Si

gamoqveynda.

doqtori ariel qoeni,

amerikeli eqsperti

komentari

`amerikaSi mTavrobaSi respublikelebi modian 100%-iT;

ruseTi sustdeba saqarTveloSi, ukve Zlieria amerikis zegavlena...

ruseTis armia – jari ar arsebobs!!!

amerikis axali prezidenti didi nacionalistia~.

aSS-is xelisuflebis saTaveSi respublikelTa administraciis mosvlamde gaismoda

prognozebi, rom prezidenti jorj buSi-umcrosi da misi gundi ukompromisoni iqnebodnen

ruseTisa da msoflios sxva arademokratiuli xelisuflebebis mimarT. saerTod, cnobili

faqtia, rom respublikelebs gacilebiT xisti damokidebuleba aqvT rusebisadmi, vidre

demokratebs (prezident klintons amerikulma masmediam ̀ balerinac~ ki Searqva elcinisa da

misi korumpirebuli xelisuflebisadmi `megobruli~ damokidebulebis gamo) da rogorc

vxedavT, buSis administraciis es pozicia da Zalisxmeva gamovlinda ara mxolod saqarTve-

los interesebis dacvaSi, aramed mTel postsabWour sivrceSi ruseTis politikis gavlenis

alagmvaSi. amis dasturi gaxlavT aSS-is erovnuli raketsawinaaRmdego TavdacviTi sistemis

Seqmnis iniciativa, ramac Tavzari dasca kremls. marTalia, prezidentma buSma ganacxada, rom

am sistemis Seqmna sadam huseinisa da sxva fundamentalisturi, diqtatoruli reJimebisagan

momdinare birTvuli safrTxis alagmvas isaxavda miznad, magram aSkaraa, rom amerikisa da

mTeli msoflios normaluri ganviTarebisTvis ruseTi Tavisi birTvuli potencialis gamo

kvlavac rCeba saxifaTo da arasando qveynad. sxva seriozuli rusuli faqtori msoflios

ar awuxebs. an rogor da riT unda Seawuxos? maSin, roca ruseTis centraluri biujeti

30-35 miliard dolars Seadgens, mxolod pentagonis (anu aSS-is erTi saministros)

biujeti 300 miliardi dolaria. momaval aTwleulSi aSS-is biujetis namati (anu zedmeti

Semosavali) iqneba daaxloebiT xuTi trilioni dolari. amasTan, seriozulad izrdeba aSS

iqneba imitom, rom realurad gvexmareba amerika; gavdivarT natos xaziTac (1992weli).

gaeroSi airevian; amerika-natos jarebi iwyeben moqmedebas. aq uSveben Secdomebs poli-

tikuri xaziT da es aris dasawyisi muslimuri omisa!!!

afxazni – afsuebi, vxedav, momavalSi gadadian TurqeTSi. daiwyeba masiuri gasvla

saqarTvelodan. vinc gavida, ukan aRar dabrundeba. qarTvelebi isev qarTvelebad gadmoew-

erebian da es eri _ afsuebi, aRar iarsebebs momavalSi.

osebi ganlagdebian CrdiloeT oseTis teritoriaze; ar eqnebaT samaCabloSi (da ara

saqarTveloSi mTlianad) dabrunebis survili.

saqarTvelo qarTvelebs da ara urjuloebs! axali prezidenti WeSmaritad naciona-

lur programas ganaxorcielebs. qarTvelma unda amoisunTqos Tavis samSobloSi. amas ise

lamazad gaakeTebs, rom araviTari gamoxmaureba ar moyveba. yvelaferi qarTul da inglisur

– saerTaSoriso enaze iqneba (rusulis swavla nebayoflobiT). miwebi daurigdeba yvela

qarTvels. gadmoeweron qarTvelebad, batono! es mecnieri (prezidenti) didi patriotia

sakuTari qveynisa da igi xalxs daaviwyebs warsul patriotebs. igi Zalze Wkviani da

uSiSaria, eyrdnoba sakuTar Zalebs, oms ucxadebs mafiebs da moTxris Zirfesvianad!!!

vxedav, iwyeba saqarTvelos ekonomikis ayvavebis periodi.

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

9

_ Cveni gacnoba didi xnis win friad saintereso

viTarebaSi moxda. maSin afxazeTis uSiSroebis komitetis

Tavmjdomare gaxldiT da monawileobas vRebulobdi afx-

azebTan warmoebul yvela donis molaparakebaSi. Cemma me-

gobarma, afxazeTis iusticiis ministrma oTar beniZem

miTxra, lela kakuliasTan wagiyvan, Zalian saintereso

iqneba Seni operatiuli monacemebisa da misi winaswarxed-

vebis erTmaneTTan Sejerebao da wavediT.

_ yovelgvari skepsisisa da undoblobis gareSe?

_ absoluturad dajerebuli imaSi, rom saubridan

Zalian bevr sainteresos Sevityobdi. molodini odnavac

ar gamcruebia. qalbatonma lelam Tavisi Canawerebi wama-

kiTxa. dResac maxsovs, ra ewera iq.

_ wakiTxuli, albaT, TqvenTvis Zalian faseuli

iyo, raxan dResac ase gaxsovT.

_ ra Tqma unda. lela werda, garkveuli xnis Semdeg

kavkasiaSi moxdeba Setakeba qristianebsa da muslimebs

Soris, romelic xangrZliv, sisxlismRvrel omSi gada-

izrdeba da moitans ormxriv uzarmazar msxverpls; saqarTve-

lo am omSi ar Caereva da sufTa gamova am avantiuridano.

axla, rogorc opermuSaki, am faqtis analizsa da komen-

tars gavakeTeb: roca kavkasiaSi es procesebi daiwyo, mivx-

vdi, sruldeboda lela kakulias naTqvami kavkasiur xan-

grZliv da sisxlismRvrel omTan dakavSirebiT. ra Tqma

unda, Cems samsaxursac hqonda garkveuli informacia sa-

frTxeebis Taobaze da vicodiT, rom omis realuri saSiS-

roeba arsebobda. roca ruseTma CeCneTTan omi daiwyo,

prezidentma elcinma eduard SevardnaZes sTxova, pankisis

xeobaze gaetarebina rusuli armia, raTa iqidan daertya

CeCneTisTvis. SevardnaZem saswrafod moiwvia uSiSroebis

sabWos sxdoma, romelzec miviReT gadawyvetileba, katego-

riuli uari gveTqva ruseTisTvis am winadadebaze (unda

aRvniSno, rom Tavad batoni eduardi iyo sastiki winaaRm-

degi rusebis pankisze gatarebisa). mTeli im xnis ganmav-

lobaSi lelas sityvebi mitrialebda TavSi. darwmunebu-

li viyavi, rom ruseTisTvis uaris Tqma swori iyo. kidev

kargi, momavlis suraTi vicodiT, Torem ra moxdeboda,

Zneli saTqmelia. Cven rom maSin am daTmobaze wavsuliyav-

iT, Sedegad miviRebdiT imas, rom CeCnebis garda, gadavi-

kidebdiT kavkasiaSi da mis farglebs gareT mosaxle

muslimebs da exlac mZvinvare omSi viqnebodiT CarTule-

bi.

kavkasiuri omidan TavdaRwevisTvis gadadgmuli meore

nabiji iyo is, rom qarTvelebma ltolvili CeCnebi Sevi-

fareT. am saqcieliT Cven bevri agresiulad ganwyobili

CeCenis guli movigeT; Tanac iseTebisa, romlebic serio-

zul samxedro dajgufebebs xelmZRvanelobdnen da gan-

sakuTrebuli avtoritetiT sargeblobdnen sakuTar xalxSi.

Cven gvqonda informacia, rom es adamianebi seriozul

operaciebs gegmavdnen saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg da Cveni

mxridan ltolvilebisTvis karis gaReba swored rom

drouli iyo.

mokled rom vTqva, Tu kacs Wkua aqvs, unda SeeZlos

erTmaneTs Seujeros winaswarxedva da operatiuli in-

formacia. swored ase moxda Cems SemTxvevaSi.

_ anu qalbatonma lelam Tavisi

winaswarmetyvelebebiT didi daxmareba gagiwiaT?

_ aba, ra?! Cven _ me da qalbatoni lela xSirad

vsaubrobdiT da vmsjelobdiT sxvadasxva problemaze; is

Tavisas meubneboda, me Cems operatiul informacias da-

vamatebdi da ase araerTxel davdgomivarT swor gzas.

kargad maxsovs Canaweri, romelic afxazeTis Temas

Seexeboda: afxazeTSi saboloo dartyma iqneba. qarTuli

armia did Setevas ganaxorcielebs; qarTvelebi gaglijav-

en frontis xazs da miadgebian soWis sazRvars. mTis

wverze saqarTvelos droSa frialebso.

axla Cemi operatiuli informaciis analizis Sedegs

mogaxsenebT: darwmunebuli var, qarTvelebi afxazeTTan urT-

ierTobis swori gezis gamonaxvas yovelnairad SevecdebiT

(vgulisxmob yvela donisa da saxis molaparakebas, sax-

alxo diplomatias, naTesaur kavSirebs, axalgazrdebis

megobrobas da sxvas) da naxavT, rogorc qalbatoni lela

wers, Tu qarTuli droSa ar afrialdeba afxazeTSi!

saamiso pirobebi namdvilad arsebobs. me lozungebs ar

visvri. ras vambob, zustad vici. kargad mogexsenebaT, qarTul-

afxazur problemebTan dakavSirebul yvela donis mola-

parakebaSi vmonawileobdi da maT liderebTan saubarma,

baRafSi iqneboda es, anqvabi Tu sxva, erT rameSi damarwmuna:

afxazebTan molaparakebis saqmeSi nebismieri Suamavali _

ruseTs rom Tavi davaneboT, gaeroc ki _ zedmetia da ar

gvWirdeba. saerTod, maTi egidiT gamarTulma molaparake-

bebma dakarga azri. qalbatoni lela jer kidev rodis,

romel wlebSi werda, rom gaero darRvevebsac daafiq-

sirebda, molaparakebebsac gagvamarTinebda, magram bolos

Tavis SesaZleblobebs amowuravda. xolo rac Seexeba

ruseTs, afxazeTSi Cven swored mas veomebodiT da amito-

mac, gamoricxuli araa, Setakeba, romlis Sesaxebac qalba-

toni lela wers, marTlac mogvixdes Cveni miwis dasa-

bruneblad.

_ batono avTo, qalbatoni lela 1993-1994

wlebSi werda, rom kavkasiis xalxTa konfedera-

cia, romelic rusebs saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg Wird-

ebodaT, sabolood daiSleboda.

_ diax, es mas CemTan pirad saubarSic uTqvams. es

winaswarmetyvelis xedva gaxldaT, axla ki paralel-

isTvis operatiuli muSakis xedvas mogaxsenebT: kavkasiis

xalxTa konfederacia namdvilad saqarTvelos sawinaaRm-

degod Seiqmna da misi damfuZnebeli realurad iyo ara

Sanibovi, aramed ruseTis specsamsaxurebi, kerZod, sabWoTa

kavSiris uSiSroebis komiteti. am organizacias hqonda

winmswrebi informacia imis Taobaze, rom sabWoTa qveyana

iSleboda da imisaTvis, rom amierkavkasiis respublikebs _

upirvelesad da umTavresad ki saqarTvelos, Tavis Wkuaze

ar evloT, saWiro xdeboda kavkasiaSi iseTi faqtoris

Seqmna, romelic daaokebda da xel-fexs Seuborkavda maT.

_ ratom `upirvelesad da umTavresad saqarTve-

lo?~

_ imitom, rom im wlebSi swored Cveni qveyana iyo

yvelaze aqtiuri ara mxolod amierkavkasiaSi, aramed mTel

kavSirSi.

sxvaTa Soris, soxumSi gamarTul yrilobas, romelzec

konfederacia Camoyalibda, mec veswrebodi. roca mis mes-

veurebs pirdapir davusvi kiTxva, ratom ar SeyavdaT saqarTve-

lo am gaerTianebaSi, ususuri pasuxi gamces, es kavkasiel-

Ta gaerTianebaao. TiTqos saqarTvelo arabeTis naxevarkun-

Zulze mdebareobda.

_ kidev erTi Canaweri am TemasTan dakavSire-

biT: `axla dudaevis, CeCen-inguSTa da osTa jeri

dadga! sakuTar saxlSi iwvneven rusebis avanti-

urebs da SantaJebs. vnaxav erTi, rogori vaJkace-

bi arian CeCnebi da ras gaxdeba kavkasiis xalxTa

konfederacia. sisxlis tbaSi abanavebs mas ruse-

Ti. . .~

_ ra, ase ar iyo? marTla sisxlis tbaSi abanava.

CeCnuri genofondis samoci procenti, praqtikulad, ganad-

gurebulia. ramdeni xania, sisxlisRvra grZeldeba? 16-17

wlis ymawvilebs omisa da ubedurebis meti araferi

unaxavT. maT ̀ omis Svilebs~ eZaxian. gesmiT, mTeli Taoba

daibada da gaizarda omSi. kvlisa da xocva-Jletis garda

araferi ician.

_ anu moxda is, rac lela kakuliam iwi-

naswarmetyvela.

_ diax, swored amis Tqma mindoda.

_ ras ityviT johar dudaevisa da zviad

gamsaxurdias urTierTobis Sesaxeb? marTla un-

doda dudaevs gamsaxurdias gamoyeneba CrdiloeT

kavkasiaSi?

_ namdvilad ase iyo. zviad gamsaxurdias kavkasiaSi

uzarmazari avtoriteti hqonda. dudaevs, romelic mTeli

cxovreba sabWoTa kavSiris armiaSi msaxurobda da am

armiis generali gaxldaT, axla ki sakuTari samSoblos

winamZRolobaze debda Tavs, gverdiT Wirdeboda iseTi

gavleniani da disidenturi cxovrebiT sayovelTaod cno-

bili adamiani, rogoric zviad gamsaxurdia iyo. aseTi

kavSiri mis, rogorc rusi dampyrobebis winaaRmdeg mebrZo-

li xalxis lideris kandidaturas, met damajereblobasa

da wonas aZlevda. sxvaTa Soris, erTxel afxazeTis televizi-

iT dudaevis interviu vixile, sadac man ganacxada: gamsax-

urdia kavkasiis xalxTa lideria, xolo saqarTvelo am-

ierkavkasiis qveynebis for-postio. sxvaTa Soris, me isic

maxsovs, lela erTgan wers, kavkasiis xalxebi erTmaneTs

daupirispirdebiano. da ai, batono, CrdiloeT kavkasiis

arc erT respublikaSi ar aris stabiluri mdgomareoba.

_ qalbatoni lela karga xania ambobs, rom

ruseTma aRar icis, ra gzas, ra xerxebs mimarTos,

rom saqarTvelos avnos. am qveyanam sul axlaxans

kidev erTxel daadastura es ganwyoba da

ekonomikuri sanqcia mogviwyo...

_ Zalian mwyins, roca viRac-viRaceebi xmamaRla moTq-

vamen, ruseTs ras verCiT, aseTi ra dagviSaveso. me namd-

vilad arafers verCi rus xalxs, magram ra dauSava

saqarTvelos misma mTavrobam, nebismier dros SemiZlia

avuxsna prorusulad ganwyobil pirebs.

_ TumcaRa, agresiuli rusuli damokidebuleba

saqarTvelos mimarT sulac ar vlindeba misi

Tavidan moSorebis survilSi. piriqiT, yvela Rones

xmaroben, rom ar gaveqceT da xelidan ar davusx-

lteT. amis Sesaxebac gvafrTxilebda qalbatoni

lela 1992-93 wlebSi: `baltiispireTi TamaSi

iyo _ msoflios daanaxes viTom demokratiuli

saxe. saqarTvelos ki ar daTmoben!~

_ marTalia. zustad ase moxda? naxeT, ra martivad,

TiTqmis uproblemod gauSva ruseTma baltiispireTs klan-

Webi. Cven ki ukve ramdeni welia, sisxls gvwovs. Tanamego-

brobaSi Sesvlac xom realuri safrTxis muqariT gvai-

Zula. amasTan dakavSirebiT minda giTxraT: aseve zustad

axda lela kakulias is winaswarTqmulic, rom omi afx-

azeTSi `esengeSi~ SesvlisTanave Sewydeboda da amerika

saqarTvelos dsT-Si gawevrianebas moiwonebda.

axla am winaswarmetyvelebas Cemeuli analiziT Sevavseb

da gangimartavT, ratom moiwona amerikam Cveni qveynis es

nabiji: nuravis egoneba, rom SeerTebuli Statebi ruseTs

saqarTvelos gulisTvis daufiqreblad daupirispirdeba.

mas imxela problemebi aqvs arabul samyarosTan, rom kidev

erTi mZlavri mtris wamokideba ruseTis saxiT, araferSi

argia. miT umetes, rom Tavad ruseTs mSvenieri damokide-

buleba aqvs amerikis mimarT mtrulad ganwyobil saxelm-

wifoebTan. gamomdinare aqedan, ruseTs martivad SeuZlia

kidev ufro gaurTulos da daumZimos amerikas mdgomar-

eoba. amitomac miesalmeba Cveni megobari SeerTebuli Statebi

yvela im nabijs, romelsac saqarTvelo ruseTTan situ-

aciis Serbilebisken gadadgams da ganuwyvetliv mogvi-

wodebs, molaparakebisken.

_ axla warsulis qarTvel politikosebs da-

vubrundeT. qalbatoni lela erTgan

winaswarmetyvelebda, rom aslan abaSiZe da zviad

gamsaxurdia erTmaneTs Seejaxebodnen. ra moxda

sinamdvileSi, marTlac ase ganviTarda movlenebi?

_ ver daviCemeb, rom am ori adamianis urTierTobebi

Zalian kargad maxsovs, magram erTi ram namdvilad Semi-

Zlia giTxraT: abaSiZe da gamsaxurdia erTmaneTs bolomde

ar endobodnen. garkveuli eWvi erTsac hqonda da meore-

sac. SesaZloa am damokidebulebaSi raRac Zalebsac Se-

hqondaT sakuTari wvlili, magram faqtia, zviadma icoda,

rom aslans zogadad ruseTTan da baTumSi dislocire-

bul rusuli armiis nawilebTan kargi damokidebuleba

hqonda; Tavis mxriv, aslanma icoda, rom zviads mZime da

meryevi xasiaTi hqonda da, rogorc Cans, es niuansebi

uSlidaT xels bolomde moesminaT erTmaneTisTvis.

_ winaswarmetyvelebebSi saubari iyo qobaliasa

da kitovans Soris mosalodnel ganxeTqilebebze.

_ afxazeTis omis dros Tavad qobalias razmSic ar

iyo erTsulovneba. jer erTi, TviTon mas ar hqonda

gamokveTili pozicia, raRacnairad meryeobda da Tavs ikavebda

sakuTari dajgufebis afxazeTSi Seyvanisgan. ar vambob, rom

sastik uarze iyo, magram WoWmanobda, ver gadaewyvita, rogor

moqceuliyo. samagierod misi razmis erT nawils wyuro-

da saqarTvelosTvis brZola da kategoriulad iTxovda

omSi dauyovnebliv CarTvas, meore nawili ki amtkicebda,

jer xunta unda davamarcxoT da mxolod amis Semdeg

mivxedoT afxazeTso.

mogvianebiT, oCamCireze aqtiuri Setevisas moxda kito-

vansa da qobalias Soris ganxeTqileba. vera da ver gada-

wyvites, gadasuliyvnen Tu ara Setevaze. swored am Seu-

Tanxmeblobis gamo moxda is, rac moxda: Setevaze gadavida

gia yaryaraSvili, sul 300 kaciT, xolo danarCeni 5-7

aTasi kaci, SeiaraReba da sabrZolo teqnika bolomde

umoqmedod darCa. faqtobrivad, amiT damTavrda omi. raRa

dagimaloT, am SeuTanxmeblobaSi didi wvlili miuZRviT

ruseTis specsamsaxurebs, romlebic aqtiurad muSaobdnen

rogorc qobalias, ise kitovanis dajgufebebis wevrebTan.

_ mokled, batono avTo, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom

qalbatoni lelas winaswarmetyvelebebi, misi un-

ari movlenaTa winaswar Wvretisa, Zalze faseulia

da Tamamad gamosayenebeli qveynis samsaxurSi?

_ me Zalian did pativs vcem qalbaton lelas da

yovelTvis mzad var dainteresebul adamianebs simarTle

vuTxra da visaubro mis Sesaxeb. ramdenime wlis win,

roca pirvelad vaZlevdi intervius lela kakuliasTan

dakavSirebiT, Jurnalistma miTxra, winaswarmetyvelTan lamis

yoveldRiuri konsultaciis misaRebad mosiarule uam-

ravi adamianidan bevrma Seikava Tavi am Temaze saubrisgano.

sainteresoa, ratom? ra aris imaSi dasamali, rom lela

kakulia winaswar xedavs movlenebs da bevrs kidec gvisarge-

blia misi am unariT da qveynisTvis sasargeblo saqmeSi

gamogviyenebia? intervius Tavi avarido ki ara, piriqiT,

minda didi madloba mogaxsenoT, rom am Temaze sasaubrod

mobrZandiT CemTan.

qveynis samsaxurSi Gamdgari winaswarmetyveli

anu rogor sargeblobda ̀ kgb~-s Sefi lela kakulias fenomeniTavTandil ioseliani _ general-leitenanti;1974 wlidan msaxurobs saxelmwifo uSiSroebis samsaxuris ganxriT;sxvadasxva wlebSi gaxldaT: afxazeTis avtonomiuri respublikis uSiSroebis komitetisTavmjdomaris moadgile (polkovniki); afxazeTis avtonomiuri respublikis uSiSroebiskomitetis Tavmjdomare; general-maioris CiniT msaxurobda saqarTvelos sainformacio-sadazvervo samsaxuris Tavmjdomaris moadgiled; saxelmwifo uSiSroebis samsaxurisTavmjdomaris pirveli moadgiled; saxelmwifo uSiSroebis ministris pirvel moadgiledmuSaobisas mieniWa general-leitenantis Cini; bolos, 1995 wlidan gaTavisuflebamdegaxldaT saqarTvelos sagareo dazvervis saxelmwifo departamentis Tavmjdomare.

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1. solomon, gaaformeT xelSekruleba `nataxtarTan~,

oRond ise, rom sxva ludebis gayidvis uflebac daitovoT.

frTxilad, ar dagiWiron!

2. nino, sesxis aRebisgan am etapze Tavi SeikaveT.

3. Tamar, aucileblad daojaxdebiT.

4. `faro~, laSam swavlas mixedos.

5. nino, Tu ar izarmacebT, SeZlebT binis gayidvas. icodeT,

aucileblad unda SeicvaloT sacxovrebeli adgili.

6. zaza, sakuTar Tavs kiTxeT, gindaTYki ojaxis Seqmna?

jer es survili gaaaRviZeT sakuTar TavSi.

7. manana, samsaxurs 100%-iT iSoviT, nu geSiniaT!

8. dodo, bolosdabolos raRaceebze Tvals daxuWavT da

ojaxsac SeqmniT.

9. nino-33w, samwuxarod Tavad ketavT sakuTar beds...

10. maguli, vals saboloood daibruneT. girCevT nawil-

nawil gamorTmevaze izrunoT.

11. ciuri, Tqveni Svili nevropaTologis daxmarebas saWiroebs.

12. levans am etapze gauWirdeba sapatimrodan Tavis daRweva.

13. lida, samwuxarod Tqvens qaliSvilebs xelmeore bedi

ar uCanT.

14. manana, Tamunam janmrTelobas mixedos. wels gadadeT

umaRlesSi Cabarebaze zrunva. vxedav, momavalSi is aucile-

blad gaxdeba studenti.

15. marika, TaTiam swavlas mixedos da sports moeridos,

Torem momavalSi travmebi Seaxsenebs Tavs.

16. manana, samwuxarod, es marTlac uflis sasjelia.

iloceT!

17. nona, samwuxaros ver gaTxovdebiT.

18. nana, aucileblad gaTxovdebiT.

19. nana, Zalian gagiWirdebaT biznesis aRdgena. sjobs sxva

saqmianobas mixedoT.

20. `leila 34~ – Sansi gaqvT gaxdeT mag pirovnebis meuRle.

21. `irinka 38~ – momavalSi vxedav pirovnebas, romelic

xels gTxovT. es Tqveni bedia (100%-iT). frTxilad iyaviT,

Tavad ar CaSaloT qorwineba.

22. eka, bolosdabolos gaTxovdebiT.

23. `legri 28~ - mSvidad iyaviT, daSordeba.

24. guliko, Tqvens qaliSvils 32 wlis asakSi aqvs gamo-

naTeba. ar gauSvas es Sansi xelidan sakuTari xasiaTis (anu

uxasiaTobis) gamo.

25. xaTuna, wadiT samuSaod ucxoeTSi. ase namdvilad

ukeTesia TqvenTvis.

26. nino-32w, gaTxovdebiT.

27. `manana-54~ samwuxarod, ara!

28. aidar, mixedeT levanis nerviul sistemas da umkur-

naleT; rac Seexeba xaTunas, mas Zalian kargi biWi yavs.

giorgi karg varskvlavzea dabadebuli da naTeli momavali

elis. roca dro mova, Caabaros saerTaSoriso diplomati-

urze da paralelurad iuridiulzec. xaTunas gaumarTlebs

binis sakiTxSic.

29. salome, Tqvens qaliSvils aqamde rom daenebebina Tavi

mag pirovnebisTvis, ukve ori Svili eyoleboda. ar arian

erTmaneTis bedi.

30. `q-n Tbilels~ – Tqvens Svils xels uSlis xasia-

Ti da umoqmedoba. SeagulianeT, cota gainZres.

31. Tbilels, am SemTxvevaSi dros mniSvneloba ar aqvs. da

saerTod, nu iqnebiT crumorwmune. daiwyeT mSenebloba.

32. nino kikaCeiSvils, Tqveni piradi cxovreba jer-

jerobiT kvlav Caketil wreSia, samagierod sixaruls vxe-

dav samsaxurTan dakavSirebiT.

33. merime, Tqveni wamowyeba kidev gaiweleba droSi. sjobs

sxva sferoze gaamaxviloT yuradReba. ise ki, girCevT, bavSvi

iSviloT.

34. maci, gawyviteT urTierToba mag mamakacTan. is aras-

dros yofila Tqveni erTguli. tyuilad dakargeT amdeni

weli. mixedeT sakuTar Tavs da bavSvs.

35. marika, bedisweraze bednacvali pirovneba gaweriaT.

amosarCevi dro aRar grCebaT. gayeviT.

36. vano, Tqvens bizness CaZirva ar emuqreba, magram verc

did mogebas miiRebT. Cemi rCevaa, Tavi SeikavoT didi TamaSe-

bisgan.

37. nanuli, samsaxuri aucileblad geqnebaT. es uflis

Sewevnaa Tqvenze, raTa Svils mixedoT.

38. `Tiniko” – girCevT bina misceT sakuTar SviliS-

vilebs. Tqven da Tqveni rZali erTad verasdros morigdebiT.

39. nukri, samwuxarod, Tqveni meuRle mobrunebas ar

apirebs.

mkiTxvelis fosta

mkiTxvelTa sayuradRebod!

redaqcia gacnobebT, rom icvleba SekiTxvebis miRebis

forma. wesebis sruli dacviT, nimuSis mixedviT SeavseT

winamdebare anketa, miitaneT an gaagzavneT daviT aRmaSeneb-

lis gamziris #44-Si mdebare qalaqis mTavar fostaSi

(safosto indeqsi 0102) boris quTaTelaZis saxelze `mok-

iTxvamde~.

anketis Sevsebisas yuradReba gaamaxvileT Semdeg niuanse-

bze: aucilebelia miuTiToT namdvili (sapasporto) saxe-

li da wlovaneba; nu ecdebiT farTod gaSaloT problema,

dasviT konkretuli kiTxva. zogadi Sinaarsis SekiTxvebs

(mag. `ra melis momavalSi?~) da gaurkvevel, rTulad wasa-

kiTx gzavnils pasuxi ar gaecema.

gaiTvaliswineT, fostis waReba moxdeba yoveli Tvis 15

ricxvisaTvis.

pasuxs miiRebT telefonis nomerze 98 92 91 yoveli Tvis 1-

3 ricxvebSi.

erTi zaris Rirebuleba 3 lari (gadasaxadi fiqsirebu-

lia).

P.S. gvTxovT ar gamogzavnoT kiTxvebi, romlebic dakav-

Sirebulia Sav magiasTan. aseT SekiTxvebs pasuxi ar gaecema.

saxeli: asaki:

SekiTxva:

40. TinaTin, Tqveni ubaraqobis mizezi sakuTari cxovre-

bis wesSi eZebeT. samwuxarod, baraqianoba jerjerobiT ar

giCanT.

41. avTandil, megobari dagexmarebaT da samsaxurs iSoviT.

42. a) zurab, iswavleT fulis yadri. gaxsovdeT, rom

RmerTis mocemuls gafrTxileba unda. ase moiqeciT da

naxavT, rom baraqa gagiCndebaT; b) irma, samsaxurs iSoviT.

43. maka, absoluturad janmrTeli bavSvi SegeZinebaT.

44. nino, Tqveni gaumarTlebloba uflis sasjeli ar aris.

45. a) cisana, samsaxurs iSoviT; b) daviTi cols SeirTavs.

46. vaxtang (iason), Tqvens ojaxs winsvla elis, roca

ormoci wlis gaxdebiT.

47. cicinos qali daexmareba espaneTSi samsaxuris dawyebaSi.

48. nino, (24 wlis stomatologi) 28-29 wlis asakSi sam-

saxuric geqnebaT da ojaxic geyolebaT.

49. gela, imoZraveT da ibrZoleT; nu vardebiT melanqo-

liaSi. samsaxuri aucileblad geqnebaT. frTxilad iyaviT

fexis tkivilTan dakavSirebiT.

50. lamara, mSvidad icxovreT. araferi gansakuTrebuli

misia ar gakisriaT, ubralod ufali gfaravT.

51. nana WiWinaZe, Tqveni Svili bedisweriT dakisre-

bul gzas gadis. 35-36 wlisas ojaxic eqneba da samsaxuric.

52. goCa, ufro moZravi, mebrZoli da mobiluri unda

gaxdeT. nu geSiniaT da nu ufrTxiT saTqmels. Tamamad da

saxalxod TqviT is, rac gindaT rom TqvaT.

53. cira, damnaSaves nu eZebT, es Tqveni bediswera iyo.

wamoimarTeT da mixedeT Svilebs.

54. inga, Tqvens Svils cudi araferi elis. es bavSvi

ufalma gaCuqaT. raRac avadmyofobismagvaric Cans da mcire

avariac, magram nu inerviulebT _ ufali kidev orjer

gaCuqebT Svils. Tqveni SiSi Cveulebrivi adamianuri gan-

cdebia, magram me sxvagvarad vxedav: 20 wlis asakidan mas

mSvenieri simaRleebi elis; 25-26 wlisa ki ukve colSvil-

iania.

55. giorgi, moiyvane naTia colad. Sen saerTod Zalian

Znelad iReb gadawyvetilebas da Tu ase gaagrZeleb, Zalian

gagiWirdeba.

56. naTia-23, jer gaTxovebas ar girCevT. Tqveni Seyvare-

buli cudi biWi ar aris, magram axla cudi periodi aqvs.

Sens Seyvarebuls ̀ aqvs patar-patara xarvezebi~, magram es

biWi Zalian Seicvleba _ gardaiqmneba. 27-28 wlisas ukve

dasrulebul mamakacs vxedav. saintereso gza eqneba ucxo-

eTSi. saerTod, aris iseTi rameebi, rac xelidan ar unda

gauSvas.

57. manana, Tqvens qaliSvils urCieT, aucileblad daub-

rundes qmars. im Tavis pirvel SeyvarebulTan ver aawyobs

urTierTobas. meuRle dadebiTi pirovnebaa, Tavad ki rTu-

li xasiaTis qalbatoni brZandeba. nu kargavs qmars. frTx-

ilad!

58. eliso, giorgi gamomZiebeliviT iqceva, yvelafers

dawvrilebiT ikvlevs. cota Tvali unda daxuWos. mo-

mavalSi col-Svils vxedav.

59. gio, Cemo kargo, iqneb yuradRebiT wagekiTxa aqamde

gamoqveynebuli Cemi winaswarmetyvelebebi? maTSi yvela SenTvis

saintereso kiTxvaze maqvs pasuxi gacemuli. Tu adrindel

gamocemebze xeli ar migiwvdeba, moTminebiT daelode Cems

gazeTs, romelSic nomridan nomerSi ibeWdeba 1992 wlidan

Cawerili winaswarmetyvelebebi. raRa Tqma unda, gamoqveynde-

ba 2006 wlis winaswarmetyvelebebic, romlebic kidev ufro

Soreul momavals exeba, vidre 2010 welia.

60. naTia, aleqsandres gardatexis periodi aqvs. 20

wlidan radikalurad Seicvleba da sul sxva kaci gaxdeba.

manamde gauZeliT. mTavaria, rom xifaTi ar elis.

61. `medi~, RmerTma giSveloT; gaemgzavreT ucxoeTSi.

aucileblad imuSavebT da Tqveni ojaxi fexze dadgeba.

warsuli daiviwyeT. is saxli dawyevlili iyo da iq Tavi

arasdros gigrZniaT kargad. imedianad SexedeT momavals!

62. Teona. wadi amerikaSi. iq ufro iolad gaikeTeb

karieras da warmatebac iq ufro geqneba.

63. ilia, es Tqveni naturaa, Tqveni Tvisebebisa da xasi-

aTis erToblioba. amas unda SeeguoT. naklebi ilaparakeT

da meti saqme akeTeT. gaxsovdeT, iolad verasdros ve-

rafers miiRebT, mxolod didid Sromis fasad miaRwevT

mizans. 30 wlidan bevri ram SegecvlebaT.

64. kaxa, vxedav Tqveni ocnebis asrulebas _ Zalian seri-

ozul da lamaz gamofenas. amaSi mamakaci dagexmarebaT.

xedvaSi Tqven win daxuruli karebi moCans, romlis gaRebas

ise ar cdilobT, rogorc saWiroa. arada, aucilebelia, rom

gaaRoT. imoZraveT, SeaxseneT yvelas, Tqveni arseboba.

Tqvens gverdiT vxedav simpaTiur da ganaTlebul qals _

gnebavT meuRle daarqviT (Zalian ki gaSinebT es sityva),

gnebavT _ megobari. gaamaxvileT yuradReba nervul sistemaze;

moCans sxva patar-patara daavadebebic, romelTa Sesaxeb

Riad ar gwerT... momavalSi gxedavT sazRvargareT; aseve

vxedav Tqvens ojaxs (col-Svils) da ukve gaxsnil kareb-

sac, anu muSaobT da ganagrZobT Tqven sayvarel saqmes.

rac Seexeba Tqven das _ maiac Tqven SemogyurebT. is ar

aris iseTi mebrZoli qali, romelic SeZlebs beds Caaf-

rindes... binasTan dakavSirebuli asruleba gagaxarebT.

65. xaTuna, miriani aucileblad iSovis samsaxurs. mar-

Talia, rac ki wamoiwyo yvelaferi Sua gzaze gaiWeda _

bolomde ver mivida, magram sruliad moulodnelad daiw-

yebs muSaobas.

66. luka, wadi ukrainaSi; SenTvis ase jobs.

67. maka, mama sesxis aRebisgan cota xans Tavi Seikavos.

zogadad sesxebTan dakavSirebiT did sirTuleebs vxedav.

mamas ki jer ise ara aqvs saqme awyobili, rom misi dafarva

SeZlos. dro Tavad daganaxebT faqtebs... rac Seexeba Sen

sabedos _ is iuristia, magram biznesSia CarTuli. aCqarebas

ar girCev. damijere da amiT moigeb. didi danakargi agcdeba.

68. `maSa~, Tavad ar ici wesierad ra ginda. kavkasiis

biznes-skola ar iyo Seni mowodeba. daixsome: prestiJuli

da kargi isaa SenTvis, rac giyvars da risi gakeTebac

SegiZlia.

69. `ciko~, Tqvens meuRles waakiTxeT, rasac gwerT: sim-

sivnes ufrTxildes! Tu smas Tavs ar daanebebs, simsivne

Camouyalibdeba; moeSleba ara mxolod centraluri nervu-

li sistema, aramed mTeli kuW-nawlavi da miiRebs ormag

uZlieres dartymas!

70. erekle, marTlac vxedav did gaumarTleblobas da

saqmeebis auwyoblobas, ramac depresiamde migiyvana da am

depresias ver erevi. ki ici, ra ginda, magram rac icodi, is

ar gamogivida da yvelaferi dakarge. yuradRebiT momismine:

pirvel yovlisa, damSviddi da daijere, rom raRacis gakeTeba

SegiZlia, miTumetes, rom 40 wlisas didi cvlilebebi g

elis. gexmareba pirovneba (samxreebs vxedav, Cinosania) da es

niSnavs, rom qmni da akeTeb saqmes. es is periodia, roca ufali

gexmareba, amitom amis mere yvelaferi aewyoba. rasac xels

mokideb, ki ar gagiqreba, aramed Sensken moizidav. rac mTavaria,

nu geSinia! RmerTma daglocos!

71. `TaTa~ _ mTeli cxovreba gawuxebT binis sakiTxi,

romelic TiTqos Caketil wreSia moqceuli, magram mo-

mavalSi Tqvens sakuTar binas vxedav. Tqvens meuRles sam-

saxuri eqneba. es raRac saxelmwifo bizness gavs. samsaxurs

ori pirovneba SesTavazebs da uari ar Tqvas. tatosTan

dakavSirebiT araferi SecvaloT. wavides aRebuli kursiT,

romelic ausruldeba mTeli 100 procentiT. miT umetes,

rom rasac daiCemebs, mainc imas gaakeTebs... Tqveni umcrosi

vaJisgan kargi biznesmeni gamova.

72. `natali~ _ arafriT ar gaeyaroT qmars. Tqven Cveu-

lebrivi sayofacxovrebo problemebi gawuxebT. yurs nu

ugdebT sxvaTa rCevebs. daiqiraveT bina da icxovreT erTad.

miT umetes, rom samsaxurs orive iSoviT, Tanac mSoblebic

dagexmarebian.

73. giorgi wowkolauro, Sorenas Svili eyoleba, Sen

ki studenti gaxdebi.

74. rezo, me arafris mtkiceba ar miyvars. ubralod

getyvi imas, rac Tavad minaxavs da vici: RmerTi arsebobs! da

es sruli WeSmaritebaa. adamiani ibadeba imisaTvis, rom

gardaicvalos da gardaicvleba imisaTvis, rom daibados.

Sen rom gaSinebs, iseTi sikvdili ar arsebobs. Tanac win

saintereso cxovreba gelis. mag depresias Tavadac mS-

venivrad gaumklavdebi. nu xar eWviani da kirkita, yvelaf-

ris Tavad mosinjva nu giyvars. daixsome: yvelaferi kargad

aewyoba da amas sakuTari TvaliT ixilav.

75. manana, me rom ‘ara~ giTxraT, Tqven mainc gaukeTebT

dedas am operacias. vxedav, erTxel ukve SegikavebiaT Tavi

da ar gagiriskavT. deda imdenad daiRala, rom sikvdilis

SiSic ver gadaafiqrebinebs operaciis gakeTebas. is mZime

avadmyofia, magram, rac mTavaria, sikvdils ar vxedav.

76. daviT (daTa), 30 wlidan didi cvlilebebi geqnebaT.

ufro metad gaiazrebT sakuTar Secdomebs, romlebic odes-

me dagiSviaT. Tumca mcire areulobebi bediswerazec gewer-

aT. mTavari isaa, rom iciT, ra gindaT da ra giyvarT.

momavalSi kidev SegeZinebaT Svili da maSin, im axali

gadasaxedidan sul sxvagvarad SexedavT sakuTar, ukve daw-

yobil-dalagebul cxovrebas.

77. elizbar, vxedav, rom gagimarTlebT wyalTan dakav-

Sirebuli biznesi, magram ara am droSi da ara axla. cota

xans Tavi SeikaveT. saqme momavlisTvis gadadeT.

78. Tamar, amerikaSi waxvalT, magram mxolod garkveuli

xnis Semdeg. dro iweleba, radgan im uwyebebSi, sadac Tqveni

sakiTxi unda gadawydes, struqturuli cvlilebebia mos-

alodneli.

Tqvens kiTxvebs pasuxobs

winaswarmetyveli

saxeli: asaki:

SekiTxva:

eka (ekaterine) 19 wlis

var abiturienti. vabareb turizmis fakultetze.

movewyobi Tu ara umaRles saswavlebelSi?

nimuSi:

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(gagrZeleba. dasawyisi #1-2)

`da me getyviT Tqven...~

mkiTxvels yovel

nomerSi SevTavazebT

mokle intervius

qarTvel

winaswarmetyvelTan.

igi upasuxebs

SekiTxvebs, romlebic,

maTi aqtualobidan

gamomdinare, yvelaze

metad ainteresebT

adamianebs.

gTavazobT 2003 wlidan Caweril gamouqveynebel, farTo

sazogadoebisTvis ucnob winaswarmetyvelebebs.

ra ixila lela kakuliam 2004 wels anu

sanam rame moxdebasanam rame moxdebasanam rame moxdebasanam rame moxdebasanam rame moxdeba

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

2004 weli 27 marti

Zalian mimZims winaswarmetyveleba! sul

uaryofiTi da Savi energiebi Semodis kon-

taqtSi, vxedav.

mTavrobaSi Zalian airevian, erTmaneTs

daupirispirdebian, aravin aravis endoba. SiSi!

da iwyeba brZola gadarCenisTvis! cxovelebs

emsgavsebian. qarTuli suli ki didixania

Camkvdaria; aseve Camkvdaria vaJkacobac da

dRevandeli situacia xom mTlad akargvinebs

maT saxes; mokled, iseTi qaosia, rom... mTavroba,

prezidenti Tavisi jgufiT, ki gveqadneba: jer

sada xarT, dedas gitirebT suyvelas, mTel

saqarTveloso. ase Cans yovelive. diax, ico-

deT, „dedas gitireben!”

vxedav adamianTa dajgufebebs. eseni ar

arian glexebi da muSebi, es seriozuli da

angariSgasawevi fenaa; diax, sazogado moRva-

weni politikosebi, metad Wkvianni da gonier-

ni... ai is mecnierTa partiaa, romelic viwi-

naswarmetyvele da movlen isini mTavrobaSi.

vxedav sxva jgufebsac, romlebic erTian-

debian. es oms hgavs. yvela moklulis da

daWerilis ukan mdgar adamianebs araferi

darCeniaT garda omisa!!! ibadeba axali

lideri, msgavsi jaba ioselianisa da yali-

bdeba axali mxedrioni. sakmaod didi masaa,

mravali adamiani erTiandeba! isini ukan ar

ixeven da Zalian seriozulad emzadebian...

Tundac omisTvis. diax, mTavrobis mier ga-

tarebuli politika „kanonis ZaliT!”

damTavrdeba didi SejaxebiT. vxedavT oms!

2004 weli 29 marti

vxedavT parlaments, iseTs, rogoric prez-

idents da premier ministrs surT, anu damor-

Cilebul xalxs! parlamentis Tavmjdomares

Zalian gauWirdeba (da es Zalian swrafad

Seetyoba); misi Tanamoazreni oms gamoucxa-

deben, sastik oms. miswvdebian mis ojaxsac

da naTesavebsac da igi iwyebs igive TamaSs,

rasac winamorbedTan, eqsprezidentTan Tama-

Sobda. yvelaferi isev parlamentidan daiw-

yeba. sworia, sjobs ibrZolo, vidre momaval-

Si mwared ago pasuxi. prezidenti ki Tavis

gundTan erTad fiqrobs im programis ganx-

orcielebaze, romelic amerikidan daugegmes:

sruliad saqarTvelos privatizacia; aravi-

Tari daTmobebi; darCebian is milionrebi,

romlebzec miuTiTeben; Camovlen isini, visac

gamogzavnian! es mTel saqarTvelos – qarTv-

el adamians udides dartymas miayenebs, Tanac

suliers. xelSi igdeben mniSvnelovan ekono–

mikur wertilebs, mTels bizness. yvelaferi

maTia, mxolod maTi da meti aravisi! isini

ki sul ramdenime kacia. atyueben yvelas. wa–

rTmeuli fulebiT viTom savse biujeti

swrafad dacarieldeba. mere? aba xma amoiRe,

dubinkebiT gagiCexen Tavs. bavSvebi TamaSoben!

ikmayofileben im moTxovnebs, romlebic bavS-

vobaSi ver daikmayofiles... ai is daiWira

dRes, adre, bavSvobaSi rom Seagina; erTxel

rom scema da mTeli bavSvoba eSinoda, isic

daiWira! mere? ubedureba isaa, rom ar fiqroben

da amitomac daiSleba „sabavSvo baRi”, Tanac

Zalian cudad. ufali maT iseTive dartymas

umzadebs bedisweraze, rac sxvebs gaukeTes.

sityva-sityviT ausruldebaT 1997 wlis

winaswarmetyveleba.

2004 weli 30 marti

quCaSi darCenili opozicia bolomde ar

gaerTiandeba; iwyeben cal-calke TamaSs. vxe-

davT, rom es swori nabijia! ufro did Zal-

ad moCanan. vxedav, leiboristebi xalxs isev

daWirdeba da Tan Zalian male. aqedan iwyeba

opoziciis aRmavloba. prezidenti xvdeba, rom

didi Secdoma dauSva, roca parlamentSi ar

Seyara isini, magram morigebas ver miaRwevs!

rogorc ZaRli da kata, ise iqnebian bolom-

de! sazRvargareTi alaparakdeba. modis dro,

roca evropa - a merika ver moiclis

saqarTvelosTvis da saqarTvelo, misi xalxi

Tavad daawyobs sakuTar politikas _ Zalian

swrafad daamxoben mTavrobas! 100%-iT!

saqarTvelo gadarCeba!!! eklesias Zalian

daupirispirdebian, patriarqis Secvla surT!

diax, momzadebulic hyavT meufe... aq ki araferi

gamouvaT. udides dartymas miayenebs ufali.

RmerTi mwared dasjis maT yvelafrisTvis,

imisTvis, rom maxviliT Sevidnen taZarSi da

iqve ganigmirebian uflis brZanebiT: ‘vinc

Cems saxls Seexeba, me mas Sevexebi; vinc Cems

xalxs Seexeba, mas gavuswordebi!~ qarTveli

bavSvi mxolod marTlmadidebelia, saqarTve-

lo RvTismSoblis wilnayari qveyanaa da

urjulo fexs ver moikidebs iberiaSi!!! ‘da

ganvdevni maT cecxliTa da maxviliT, amin!

davasufTaveb mTels iberias da dawynardeba

Cemi saxli da Cemi xalxi, amin!~ am

wuTSi vuyureb ufals, romelic me-

saubreba ganrisxebuli. SemeSinda!

2004 weli 7 aprili

vxedav teraqts, romelsac prezidents

mouwyoben. isini, vxedav, profesionalebi

arian! es saxumaro saqme ar aris. afeTqe-

ben 100%-iT! ver gamoiZieben! ministre-

bi ras muSaoben, RmerTma uwyis. prezi-

denti? es arc RmerTma uwyis. iwyeba

qaosi. waarTves, waglijes, daxoces, dai-

Wires!!! mere? ho, mere? marTva rom ar

ician? rogor warmarTon biznesi, rom

ar ician? da saerTod, ra ician? a r a–

f e r i ! isini CaiZirebian! anu Zalian

mwared CaZiraven! amin!!! urTulesi peri-

odi daudgeba saqarTvelos!

2004 weli 12 aprili

asruldeba winaswarmetyveleba, aWara

Cawynardeba. aslan abaSiZis dro wavi-

da. aWara afxazeTi araa! magram prezi-

dents nervebs ki mouSlian Zalian!

yovelive male dawynardeba. saqarTve-

los zustad aseTi mTavroba Wirdeba

dRes. kanoni ar gicavT; Tu isini CaTv-

lian saWirod, mxolod maSin gicavT.

vxedav, warsuls Cabarebuli politi-

kosebi da biznesmenebi Tavs wamoyofen,

mTavrobasTan aliansSi Sedian. diax,

ibruneben dakargul poziciebs. mTavro-

bac uars ar eubneba, asea!

2004 weli 23 aprili

parlamentSi partiebi daiSleba.

rogorc moqalaqeTa kavSiri daiSala,

ise daiSlebian nacional-demokratebi,

aseve axlebi da mrewvelebi. ori qali

erTmaneTs daupirispirdeba. parlamen-

tis Tavmjdomares saqmes gaurCeven. isini

piraduls arCeven. parlamentSi Seyrili

yvinCilebi dajgufdebian da erTmaneTs

daupirispirdebian. parlamenti vadamde

adre daiSleba. iqneba mTavrobis cvla.

yvelas gaukvirdeba _ prezidenti Tavis

xalxs filtravs, anu asufTavebs...

2004 weli 18 maisi

umravlesobis liders Zalian

gauWirdeba. mokled, iseTi mdgomareoba

iqmneba da ise iZabeba yvelaferi, rom

lideri bevrisTvis miuRebeli xdeba.

rom vxedav Sida oms. umravlesoba orad

iyofa. wava brZolebi da bolos gamar-

jveba kacs darCeba! Tavad prezidenti

waradgens! igi xSirad Seicvlis azrs,

Tavis momxreebs siurprizebs mouwy-

obs! da eqnebaT imedebis gacruebebi.

mere ki iwyeben sawinaaRmdego moqmede-

bebs da xmamaRal gamosvlebs preziden-

tis winaaRmdeg, magram araferi gamou-

vaT, radgan prezidenti sityvasac ar

SearCens da oms, diax, oms gamoucxadebs

maT! mas diqtators daarqmeven, magram

es sulac ar aRelvebs prezidents.

savaWro palatis xelmZRvaneli Zalian

maRla dafrinavs, Zalian. amas yvela

amCnevs, prezidentic, premier-ministric

da msxvili biznesmenebic. diax, Zalian

maRla frinavs da didad ar moswonT.

vxedavT, TiTqos es pirovneba (kiwmariS-

vili) prezidentis TamaSs TamaSobs.

ase Cans da asec aris, vxedavT, magram

dapirispirebebi prezidents SeaSfoTebs

da TviTon pirveli daartyams Tavis

kacs! gawiravs ise, rom arc Sercxveba.

amiT masTan dapirispirebul Zlier

frTas isev moimxrobs, magram es frTa

_ didi biznesmenebi, premier-ministri,

parlamentis Tavmjdomare ukve aRar

endobian prezidents misi moqmedebidan

gamomdinare. amitom isini iwyeben

iatakqveSa moZraobas.

savaWro palatis Sefi kiwmariSvili

iwyebs did brZolas. amas didi ambebi

mohyveba Tavisi ganxilvebiT; bevri ram

amotivtivdeba, bevri ram gaSiSvldeba

da xalxi gaocdeba! ‘rusTavi 2-s~ dax-

urvis saSiSroeba daemuqreba! prezi-

denti maT arafers dauTmobs.

premier-ministri amoisunTqavs da

siamovnebiT exmareba prezidents. Wkvi-

ani kiwmariSvili Zalian Secda. igi

yvelafers waagebs, vxedavT. diax, pre-

mier-ministri yvelafers cxvirSi amo-

adens. misi kariera daixureba. iwyeba

didi brZolebi mTavrobaSi!

_ qalbatono lela, gasuli Tvis erT-erTi yvelaze xmaurian da aqtu-

alur Temad iqca ruseTSi qarTuli produqciis akrZalva. marTalia, mezo-

beli gvarwmunebs, rom Cvens produqcias mxoloddamxolod wmida ekologiur-

sanitaruli TvalsazrisiT iwunebs, magram CvenSi eWvic aravis epareba, rom

es sadamsjelo RonisZiebaa, vinaidan qarTuli Rvino, `borjomi~, `nabeR-

lavi~, vaSli Tu soflis meurneobis sxva produqtebi namdvilad maRalx-

arisxovani da ekologiurad sufTaa.

_ naturaluri produqcia didi raodenobiT mTel msoflioSi arsad arsebobs.

qimiuri naerTebiT bunebrivi ingredientebis Canacvleba, maT Soris alkoholur sasmel-

Si, Cveulebrivi movlenaa, magram unda giTxraT, rom qarTuli Rvinoebi marTlac

gamoirCeoda yvelasgan Tavisi xarisxiT. amitomac iyo smismoyvaruli ruseTi kmay-

ofili. ar undaT normaluri Rvino? axla svan sufTa qimia an gadaixadon erT boTlSi

700 dolari...

ise, rom icodeT, am procesebs rusul-ebrauli mafia marTavs.

_ rogorc ki cnobili gaxda, rom ruseTis mTavroba sakuTar qveyanaSi

qarTuli Rvinis Setanas krZalavda, Tqven maSinve brZaneT, rom es mxolod

pirveli etapi iyo Cveneburi nawarmis akrZalvaTa seriisa da male sxvac

bevri ram `daiwuneboda~. marTlac, ruseTi sul male `antiqarTul di-

etaze dajda~.

_ me vTqvi is, rasac vxedavdi, da vTqvi simarTle. axlac simarTles getyviT: ra Tqma

unda, es winaswarganzraxuli ekonomikuri dartymaa. ruseTs ar moswons Cveni mTavroba

da yvelanairad cdilobs moaSoros isini xelisuflebas. saamisod gegma SemuSavebu-

li aqvT da swored am gegmis erT-erTi punqtia es ekonomikuri embargoc. rusebi

imedovneben, rom qarTveli glexisa Tu mewarmis jibeze mitanili Zlieri ieriSi

gamoiwvevs maT ukmayofilebas sakuTari mTavrobis mimarT; dazaralebuli adamianebi

xelisuflebas araswori politikis gatarebaSi daadanaSauleben da maT moTxoven

pasuxs Seqmnil viTarebaze.

me yovelTvis vwerdi, rom ruseTs saqarTvelos mimarT mzakvruli gegmebi aqvT da

aRar ician, riTi gaanadguron saqarTvelo, rogori saxis terori jobia, Rameebs aTeven

amaze fiqrSi-meTqi. hoda, es nabijic faruli agresiis erT-erTi formaa.

_ rodis dasruldeba ekonomikuri sadamsjelo RonisZieba?

_ es gagrZeldeba manam, sanam Cveni qveynisa da ruseTis mTavrobebi molaparakebaTa

magidas ar miusxdebian. magram molaparakebas ver vxedav. ruseTi ar endoba amJamindel

mTavrobas. bolos yvelafers ufali daawyobs saqarTvelos sasargeblod!

ruseTi ver eRirseba saqarTvelos dacemasa da ganadgurebas. mas unda axsovdes, rom

saqarTvelo aris evropisa da aziis umTavresi SemaerTebeli rgoli da es funqcia,

uflis nebiT, yovelTvis eqneba. abreSumis gza ruseTamde arsebobda da kvlavac iarse-

bebs. is, rac dRes xdeba, droebiTia da aRsruldeba winaswarmetyveleba nebiTa uflisa,

romelsac veraviTari Zala ver aRudgeba win. am etapze ki sifrTxile gvmarTebs.

xazgasmiT aRvniSnav: Jirinovskis gamosvlebs agdebiT nuravin moekideba. misi teqstebi

metad saintereso da sayuradReboa, vinaidan, merwmuneT, maTSi cxaddeba kremlis re-

aluri pozicia; Jirinovski xmamaRla ambobs imas, rasac kremlSi fiqroben. gaxsovdeT,

me _ lela kakulia, arasdros vcdebi!

_ amis dasturad imdeni magaliTis motana SeiZleba , ramdeni

winaswarmetyvelebac odesme warmoTqmula Tqvengan. Tundac, daRestanTan

dakavSirebiuli xedva.

_ jer kidev 1993 wels vwerdi, rom ruseTs daRestnidan elis uzarmazari safrTxe

_ didi omi; zustad aq waimtvrevs ruseTi kisers, radgan maT winaaRmdeg gaerTiandebian

da moimarTebian Crdilo kavkasielebi. swored maSin daWirdeba ruseTs saqarTvelos

megobroba da keTilganwyoba.

_ Tqven winaswar icodiT belorusSi mimdinare arCevnebis Sedegi: lukaSenko

mesame vadiT prezidenti gaxdeboda. is ki ara, ufro Sorsac waxvediT...

_ diax, da vTqvi, rom meoTxe vadiTac gaxdeba prezidenti. amas sakuTari TvaliT

naxavs yvela. beloruss revolucia ar emuqreba.

_ ras ityviT belorus-saqarTvelos momaval ekonomikur urTierToba-

ze?

_ Tu am kiTxvaSi ruseTis mier `dawunebuli~ produqciis belorusSi Setanas

gulisxmobT, es tyuili mcdeloba iqneba _ belorusi ar miiRebs am winadadebas.

_ amerikis xelisuflebaSi, rogorc Tqven werdiT, marTlac movidnen

respublikelebi...

_ odnav mogvianebiT ki davinaxe da vTqvi, rom respublikelebs kvlav demokratebi

Secvlian da es jorj buSis Semdeg moxdeba.

_ amerika azerbaijanSi sakuTari bazebis ganTavsebas apirebs...

_ me vixile da davwere: amerika azerbaijans iseT programas Cautarebs, rom es qveyana

momavalSi fexs ver gaafafxurebs-meTqi. swored es molaparakebebia sawyisi etapi am

winaswarmetyvelebisa.

_ qalbatono lela, Tqven araerTgan werT, rom saqarTvelos xelisufle-

bam didi yuradReba unda miaqcios hesebs, vinaidan maTgan katastrofebi

gvemuqreba. oriode kviris win engurhesis gaSvebam savalalo Sedegebi

moitana: movardnilma wyalma uamravi ojaxi datova usaxlkarod.

_ ...da axla xudonhesis aRdgenaze daiwyes fiqri, ara? jer imas mixedon wesierad,

rac aqvT. xudonhesi jer ocnebis sferoa.

_ arada, eleqtro-energiaze tarifebi izrdeba. ra moyveba amas?

_ saqarTvelos mosaxleoba denze fasis zrdas mSvidad ar da ver Sexvdeba.

samwuxarod, amas aucileblad moyveba mRelvareba da xalxis gamosvlebi.

_ dabolos, miuloceT aRdgoma Tqveni fiqrisa da Wmunvis mudmiv mizezs _

saqarTvelos da qarTvelebs.

_ vulocav Cems saqarTvelos, qarTvelebs aRdgomis brwyinvale dResaswauls, upirve-

lesad ki, yvelaze SeWirvebul adamianebs. dae, Tqvens sulebSi mudam ikiafos imedis

sanTelma da ise gasxivosndes, rom Tavisi ZaliT daamarcxos yovelgvari boroti Cems

qveyanaSi. gjerodeT, rom moxdeba saocreba, roca ufali mTel msoflioSi mxolod

saqarTvelosTvis moiclis da amiT gadarCeba sruliad saqristiano. amin!!!

qriste aRdga, saqarTvelo!

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