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RESULT OF VOTING ON CDV

Project number:IEC 60092-509 Ed.1 Reference number of theCDV 18/1146/CDV

IEC/TC or SC18

Date of circulation2010-10-01

Title of the TC or SC concerned

Electrical installations of ships and of mobile and fixed offshore units

Title of the committee draft:

IEC 60092-509 Ed.1: Electrical installations in ships - Part 509: Operation of electrical installations

The above-mentioned document was distributed to National Committees with a request that voting take place for approvalfor circulation as an FDIS or publication as an International Standard, Technical Specification or Technical Report

Voting results

see printout attached

Comments received see annex 1)

THE CHAIRMAN (in cooperation with the secretariat and the project leader) has taken one of the following courses ofaction.

When the approval criteria have been m et:

a.1)

a.2)

The committee draft for vote (CDV) will be registered as an FDIS by (date) 2010-10-22

The committee draft for vote (CDV) will be registered as an IS by (date) ..........

b The draft technical specification (DTS) will be registered as a Technical Specification by (date) ..........The draft technical report (DTR) will be registered as a Technical Report by (date) ..........

When the approval criteria have NOT been met:

c A revised committee draf t for vote (CDV) wil l be dis tri buted by (date) ..........

d A revised committee draf t (CD) wil l be dis tributed by (date) ..........

e The comments will be discussed at the next meeting of the on (date) ..........

NOTESa. 2) Only applies where no negative votes have been received on the committee draft for vote. The chairman in

cooperation with the secretariat shall also ensure that no technical changes i.e. changes to one or more of the normativerequirements have been made between the committee draft for vote (CDV) and the text submitted for the publication ofan IS.

In the case of a proposal c or d made by the chairman, if two or more P-members disagree within 2 months of thecirculation of this compilation, then the draft shall be discussed at a meeting.

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Annex AResult of Voti ng on CDV - Document 18/1146/CDV

Project: IEC 60092-509 Ed.1

IEC 60092-509 Ed.1: Electrical installations in ships - Part 509: Operation of electrical installations

Circulation Date: 2010-01-08Closing Date: 2010-06-11

Country Status Received Vote Comments

Belgium O 2010-05-18 A -

Brazil P 2010-06-11 Y -

China P 2010-06-10 Y YDenmark P 2010-06-08 A -

Finland P 2010-05-27 A -

France P 2010-05-20 Y Y

Germany P 2010-06-08 Y -

Greece O 2010-06-09 A -

Italy P 2010-06-09 Y -

Japan P 2010-06-04 Y -

Korea (Rep. of) P 2010-06-11 Y -

Netherlands P 2010-06-11 N YNorway P 2010-06-11 Y -

Portugal P 2010-06-11 Y -

Russian Fed. P 2010-06-10 Y -

Serbia P 2010-04-30 Y -

Spain P 2010-06-07 Y -

Sweden P 2010-06-10 A -

Switzerland 2010-06-10 A -

U.S.A. P 2010-06-07 Y -

United Kingdom P 2010-06-08 N Y

Approval Cr iteria Result

P-members voting: 15

P-members in favour: 13 = 87 % >= 67% APPROVED

Total votes cast: 15 Total against: 2 = 13 %

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Annex BDate Document Project Nr.

2010-10-XX 18/1146/CDV 60092-509 Ed. 1

NationalCommittee

Linenumber

Clause/Subclause

ParagraphFigure/Table

Typeof comment

(General/

Technical/Editorial)

COMMENTS Proposed change OBSERVATIONS OF THE SECRETARIATon each comment submitted

1(NL 1)

Although the document has beenapproved on a number of detailsconcerning save working on

electrical installations on board shipsthe document is still not acceptablefor the Dutch national committee.The initial comment NL-1 ondocument 18/1092/CD still standsand the appendixes giving theimpression that live working even onHV installations may be possible areto be removed."

Noted. No change will be donewith regard to working on liveinstallations.

2(UK 1)

UK submits a NEGATIVE vote withtwo comments

Noted. See observations to 3(UK2) and 4 (UK 3)

3(UK 2 )

Ge Include a new definition ofSupervision:

when an electrically skilled ornominated person watches (observes)personnel carry out an activity andmakes certain (ensures) that everythingis done correctly and safely.

Agree to add a new definition.The following definition ofSupervision will be added:

supervision

to watch over, by an

electrically skilled ornominated person,an activityor task being carried outby personnel and to ensurethat it is performed correctlyand safely

4(UK 3)

Ge The subject of Supervision is notclear throughout the document.

The Working Group is asked to acceptthe GB definition of Supervision and

check for consistency throughout.

Agree, but see 3 (UK 2) fordefinition

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NationalCommittee

Linenumber

Clause/Subclause


Typeof comment

(General/



5(NL 2)

139 GeneralTechnical The document should be in line with

land based rules describing safeworking on electrical installations (egEN 50110 standard). This is not thecase. In the land based rules safetyis dominant and working on lifeelectrical installations is forbidden fornot safe voltages. This documentallows or suggests from the verybeginning under 5 until the very endin Annex G that life working isallowed for practical reasons evenfor HV installations. The Annex A(Guidance for distances in air) forworking procedures is not relevant;the figures given are intended fordesigning rules of electricalequipment, not for working on.

Only in partly dead open installations(eg land based substations) canworking in life environment beconsidered after protectingmeasures towards the life parts. Thiscan never be the case on boardships and has never beennecessary.Working on life HV installations shall

be forbidden and any suggestion inthe document allowing this isconfusing and shall be removed.

Redesign the document from clause 5.3completely.Replace item 5.3 under item 7 and startafter describing normal operation withclause 6 .Change clause 6.3.1 into the following:Life working is not allowed for anypractical or economical reason; only tosave life it may be considered.Delete clause 6.4 completely.Delete figure 2.Delete Annex A completely.Delete table A1Delete Annex B completelyDelete Annex CDelete Annex EDelete Annex FDelete Annex G except lines 891, 898,899, 901, 902

Disagree, no change will be doneregarding live working

6(FR 1)

316-321

3.5 T To be consistent with IEC 60439 add orchange definition of 3.5.1

(electrically) protective obstaclepart preventing unintentional direct contact,but not preventing direct contact bydeliberate action[IEV 195-06-16]

Disagree, no change will be done.

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NationalCommittee

Linenumber

Clause/Subclause


Typeof comment

(General/



7

(CN 1)

346 E Using the full-title and deleting the note 3.6.4 safety extra low voltage(SELV)

system.Disagree, the definition is inaccordance with the definition inIEV

8(CN 2)

352 E Using the full-title and deleting the note 3.6.5 protective extra low(PELV) system Disagree, the definition is inaccordance with the definition inIEV

9(FR 2)

428 4.5 T To be consistent with 6.3.1 or 6.4.1 adda reference to national requirements

New sentence :guidance provided by the manufacturer,the supplier or national requirements

Agree, the sentence will bemodified as proposed.

10(CN 3)

692 E Taking Dv instead of DVAgree, editorial

11(CN 4)

695 E Taking Dl instead of DL Agree, editorial

12(CN 5)

830 E It should be note Disagree, this is informative

13(CN 6)


14(CN 7)


15(CN 8)

905 E Deleting the Annex G Agree, editorial

16(CN 9)

906 E Deleing the (informative) Agree, editorial

17(CN 10)

909 E Taking IEC 60743 instead of EC 60743 Do not understand comment

FORM COMMENTS (IEC)2007-03-07

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