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saqarTvelos yofili prezidentis ed-

uard SevardnaZis gancxadebiT, Tu xel-

isufleba biZina ivaniSvils saqarTvel-

os moqalaqeobas ar aRudgens da arCe-

vnebSi monawileobis saSualebas ar mi-

scems, saqarTveloSi samoqalaqo omi

daiwyeba. am informacias `afsni presi~

avrcelebs.

- ivaniSvils moqalaqeoba unda aRud-

ginon, es surs qarTvel xalxs da sae-

rTaSoriso sazogadoebas, ambobs Sevar-

dnaZe.

ivaniSvilis advokatebma prezidentis

gadawyvetileba sasamarTloSi gaasaCiv-

res, sarCels Tan erTvoda Suamdgoml-

oba, romliTac isini sasamarTlos gad-

awyvetilebamde brZanebulebis moqmedeb-

is SeCerebas iTxovdnen. rogorc gairk-

va, sasamarTlom Suamdgomloba ar daa-

kmayofila.

SegaxsenebT, rom biZina ivaniSvilsa da

mis meuRles safrangeTis moqalaqeobis

mizeziT saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba mas

Semdeg SeuCeres, rac ivaniSvilma pol-

itikaSi wasvlisa da momaval saparlam-

ento arCevnebSi monawileobis Sesaxeb

gancxadeba gaakeTa.

`opozicioneris neitralizebis qarT-

uli stili~, - ase exmaureba ruseTis

inglisurenovani telekompania `rusia

Tudei~ biZina ivaniSvilisTvis moqala-

qeobis Sewyvetas.

telekompaniisTvis micemul interviu-

Si ivaniSvilis advokati eka beselia

acxadebs, rom batoni biZinas politik-

aSi CarTvam xelisuflebaSi SiSi gamoi-

wvia, roca man Tqva, rom partiis Seqm-

nasa da arCevnebisaTvis mzadebas apire-

bs, xelisufleba panikam moicva - dasZ-

ens eka beselia.

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aWara P . S . - 2011 wlis 2 5 o qtomb eri #24 ( 6 2 0 )2 gazeTi aris saqarTvelos

regionuli mediis asociaciissruluflebiani wevri

politika

mmeexxiiss ggaavvaarrddnnaa

ppoolliittiikkuurr ccaazzee

ase Seafases batoni biZina ivan-

iSvilis gancxadeba `qarTuli aka-

demiis~ aWaris warmomadgenlobas-

Tan arsebuli uxucesTa saTaTbir-

os wevrebma.

bolos da bolos, gamoCnda Suqi

gvirabis bolos.

raRa Tqma unda, Zalian operat-

iulad aJRurtuldnen da gangaSis

zarebi darekes `demokratiis~ Su-

qurosanma telearxebma da Jurna-

listebma, Cinovnikebma da parlamen-

tarebma. rogorc wesi, sxva argum-

enti maT ar gaaCniaT, xeli ruseT-

isaken gaiSvires. Turme nu ityviT

da batoni biZinas finansuri aqti-

vebi ruseTSi yofila naSovni. me

minda vkiTxo nacmoZraobis mier

privatizebul xelisuflebas da

maT Cinovnikebs, roca qarTveli bi-

znesmeni qarTul kulturas afina-

nsebda, maSin Tu iyo is fuli ru-

seTSi naSovni?! sad gagonila ase-

Ti pretenzia wauyenoT samebis ta-

Zris aRmaSenebel biznesmens?!

dRes saqarTvelos sWirdeba il-

ia WavWavaZis ideologia, romelic

fexqveS gaTela mozardebis xeli-

suflebam, da niko nikolaZis praq-

tikuli saqmeebi. rogorc batoni

biZina aRniSnavs Tavis gancxadeba-

Si da misi mowmea qarTveli xalxi,

saakaSvilis xelisufleba agebul-

ia Zaladobasa da sicrueze.

batoni biZinas gancxadeba aris

dRevandeli saqarTvelos ucdome-

li kardiograma, romelsac gaazre-

buli wakiTxva sWirdeba da amis

Semdeg SeiZleba yvela im erovnu-

li tkivilis mkurnaloba da moS-

uSeba, romelic suls uxuTavs qa-

rTvel xalxs.

batoni biZina gvesaxeba Cveni dr-

ois niko nikolaZed, romelsac xe-

lT upyria qarTveli xalxis gad-

arCenis proeqti, romlis xorcSes-

xmas erovnuli Zalebis sruli mo-

bilizacia da Tanadgoma sWirdeba.

partia, romlis Seqmnasac apirebs

biznesmeni, unda gaxdes erovnuli

interesebis gamomxatveli polit-

ikuri centri, romelic daupirisp-

irdeba sorosistul nacionalur

moZraobas da samSvidoboze gaiyva-

ns saqarTvelos da qarTvel xal-

xs.

roca Zalian gauWirda saqarTv-

elos, ufalma ilia WavWavaZe mogv-

ivlina. Cveni fiqriT, biZina ivaniS-

vili RvTis jildoa saqarTvelos

gadasarCenad gamogzavnili. Cveni

valia mas gavufrTxildeT. RmerT-

ma daifaros batoni biZinac da sr-

uliad saqarTveloc.

SoTa zoiZe

`qarTuli akademiis~ aWaris

warmomadgenlobis koordinatori,

mwerali, folologiis mecniereba-

Ta doqtori, saxelmwifo premiis

laureati

gaaz. `saaqqaarTvelos resppubli-

kaa~, 12, 100, 20011, #19900

`revoluciis gagoneba ar minda~

- am xelisuflebaSi menejmenti saerTod ar ician. stuqt-

urebi arsebobs, xelfasebs arigeben, magram gadawyvetilebas

sami kaci iRebs kabinetSi. sam kacs unda, rom qveyana marTos.

qveyana ki ara, patara sawarmo ar SeiZleba, rom ase imarTe-

bodes. maT rom gadanawilebuli hqondeT funqciebi saminis-

troebze, aseT umecrebas ar Caidendnen. isic ki ver gaTva-

les, rom Tu Cem SemTxvevaSi raRac mosadavebeli kidev iyo,

Cemi meuRlis moqalaqeobasTan dakavSirebiT SekiTxvac ar

SeiZleba daisvas.

maT undaT, mTel qveyanas Savi farda gadaafaron; Suqi sa-

dac aRwevs da vinc raRacas xedavs, isini daaSinon; meore

nawili ki sicruis manqaniT moatyuon. maTgan yvelaferia

mosalodneli da arc imas gamovricxav, rom mesrolon, amas

vacnobiereb da frTxilad var.

Zalian ar momwons maTi araswori nabijebi da yvelanairad

vcdilob, rom aq kadafizacia ar daiwyos. Cemi mTavari mizan-

ia, rom eseni rogorme SevaCeroT, rogorme kanonierebis fa-

rglebSi davabrunoT. amitom, yvelafers vakeTeb, rom Sida

temperatura davwio, raTa ar moxdes dapirispireba. Zalian

meSinia, quCis aqciebi ar daiwyos, rac amaT awyobT. ar unda

viTamaSoT maTi TamaSi. rogorme arCevnebamde unda mivideT.

- biznesidan wamoRebuli ra gamocdileba gamogadgebaT

politikaSi da ramdenad xarT mzad kompromisebisa da Se-

TanxmebebisTvis?

- Cems kompaniebSi, sadac 100 000 kaci muSaobda, yovel-

Tvis 10-12 kacTan erTad viRebdi gadawyvetilebas. vinc ver

axerxebda Cems kritikas, imas axlos ar vikarebdi. ar Sei-

Zleba, kacma warmatebas miaRwio, Tu Sen karnaxob yvelas, ra

unda gaakeTos - rogorc Cveni mTavroba iqceva.

vinc warmatebas miaRwia - da me ar viqnebi gamonaklisi -

is yovelTvis maqsimalur oponirebas moiTxovs, raTa Secd-

oma ar dauSvas. Tu ginda, warmatebas miaRwio, aucileblad

unda daeyrdno liberalizmsa da demokratias.

axla politikosi da biznesmeni SevadaroT. demokratia

ra aris? xalxma unda miiRos gadawyvetileba. biznesmeni

ver miaRwevs warmatebas, Tu liberali ar aris da erTpir-

ovnulad marTavs. meore mxriv, politikosic piradi warma-

tebisTvis iRvwis, Tumca, cdilobs, sxvagvarad warmoaCindes.

magram, sinamdvileSi, es asea.

warmatebisken swrafvaSi politikosi biznesmenisgan ar ga-

nsxvavdeba, piriqiT, xSirad ufro metadac agresiulia. bizne-

smeni TandaTan izrdeba da TviTon qmnis Tavis samoqmedo ar-

eals, politikosi ki modis gamzadebulze da sazogadoebisg-

an ukve Seqmnilis moxmarebas iwyebs. niWier politikoss Se-

uZlia - da amis magaliTi bevria - rom saxelmwifoc gana-

viTaros da skamic SeinarCunos. uniWo da naklebad niWieri,

romelic orives erTad ver axerxebs, ra Tqma unda, pirvel

adgilze skams ayenebs da yvelaferze midis mis SesanarCun-

eblad. gaaCnia, ra doneze miscems amis uflebas sazogadoe-

ba. sinamdvileSi, sxvaoba biznesmensa da politikoss Soris

arc Tu ise didia marTvis kuTxiT.

- amboben, mixeil saakaSvilma Seqmna qmeduraniani, energ-

iuli mTavroba. am process saqarTvelos mosaxleoba gark-

veuli periodis ganmavlobaSi imediT Sehyurebda. Semdeg xe-

lisufleba sul ufro arapopularuli da miuRebeli gax-

da. Tqveni azriT, ra iyo is mTavari mizezi, ramac xelis-

uflebisadmi ndoba undoblobad gadaaqcia?

- qmedunariani mTavroba?! ver dageTanxmebiT. ramdenime pr-

oeqti marTlac ganxorcielda. policiaSi moxda reforma

da is sircxvilic moviSoreT, rodesac umaRlesSi qrTamiT

ewyobodnen. me ar minda, rom is kargi davkargo, rac gakeTda.

magram ganaTlebis sistemaSi uamravi Secdoma dauSves, razec

axla ar SevCerdebi. saubedurod, policiamac is efeqturo-

ba mTlianad dakarga, rac Tavidan hqonda - praqtikulad, sa-

Tavisod da xalxis dasaSinebel manqanad iyeneben.

amitomac, ver daveTanxmebi im azrs, rom qmedunariani mT-

avroba Seiqmna. Tanamdebobis pirTa mudmivi gadaadgilebebi

sabavSvo TamaSebs hgavs. marTlac qmedunariani mTavroba co-

ta sxvanair Sedegebs miiRebda. qmediTi Seqmnes fulis Seg-

rovebis meqanizmi biujetSi, raSic mec mivexmare da rasac

SevardnaZis mTavroba ver axerxebda.

saxelmwifos funqciaa, rom unda mokribos gadasaxadi. sa-

gadasaxado samsaxurSi da sabaJoze fulis didi nawili adg-

ilze rCeboda da nawildeboda, imis magivrad, rom biujetSi

wasuliyo. aqedan gamomdinare, saxelmwifo Tavis funqcias

ver asrulebda. pirvel etapze es iyo efeqturi, roca biuj-

ets Tavisi saxe mieca. raRac inversticiebi Semovida, mSene-

blobebi daiyo, magram didi da seriozuli investicia aq ar

ganxorcielebula.

fulis Segroveba rom moaxerxes, es namdvilad unda Cav-

uTvaloT, magram rac am bolo dros xdeba, warmoudgenelia.

CemTvis sruliad miuRebelia, rac finansTa saministroSi

xdeba. an ras hgavs saxelmwifo biujeti?! finansTa samini-

stro da biujeti sakuTar jibed gadaiqcies. atareben ko-

ncertebs, uazro RonisZiebebs, es nonsensia. aseTi ram ver

moxdeba, magaliTad, safrangeTSi, romelic sakmaod warmateb-

uli saxelmwifoa.

- mainc, ra iyo mizezi, rom ndoba undoblobiT Seicvala?

yvelam Tavisi gza gaiara ndobidan undoblobamde. Tavidan

xom iyo ndoba?

- diax, ndoba iyo da mec eiforiaSi viyavi. cal-calke vi-

tyvi, ra iyo undoblobis gaCenis mizezi CemTvis, da ra iyo,

Cemi azriT, imaves mizezi xalxisTvis. ndobam Caqroba daiw-

yo maSin, roca amaT Tavisi realuri saxis Cveneba daiwyes;

roca raRac gaugebari mizezebis gamo saxlebs angrevdnen,

rodesac damsaxurebul adamianebs abuCad igdebdnen da ase

Semdeg.

diax, eiforia namdvilad iyo, rom movida demokratiuli

mTavroba. mec am ganwyobiT viyavi. Tundac, igive mecxre ar-

xi, romelic demokratiis mxardamWer saTadarigo arxad mq-

onda. mTelma personalma icoda, rom Tu rame moxdeboda, Cv-

en gamoviwevdiT wina planze Tavisufali sityvis dasacavad.

roca es mTavroba movida, ver vikadre, rom am televizias

funqcionireba gaegrZelebina. vfiqrobdi, rom, asrulda Cveni

ocneba da ar mindoda, Casafrebulis rolSi aRmovCeniliyavi.

xelisuflebas vaCuqe televizia, romlis nawili “rusTavi

2”-s misces, nawili, me mgoni, pirvel arxs gadauloces.

gaxsovT, xalxs quCaSi gamosvla ar apaties... amas mohyva

ukanono ngreva, qonebis warTmeva, kidev sxva da sxva... xalx-

ma Cemze adre daiwyo sinamdvilis gacnobiereba.

maT nel-nela gamoaCines sakuTari saxe. dRes xom ar da-

badebulan? yovelTvis aseTebi iyvnen. me, Cemda samwuxarod,

gvian gavacnobiere, vin arian eseni. amis mizezi, albaT, is iyo,

rom mTlianad viyavi CarTuli Cems saqmeSi, mqonda Cemi dRis

reJimi, dakavebuli viyavi ojaxiT, ar vxvdebodi politikos-

ebs. saerTod, politika Cemi Tema ar iyo. CemTvis informac-

ia an Tavad saakaSvils mohqonda, an merabiSvils, romelsac

xandaxan miSa gamogzavnida xolme, roca Camosvla ar SemeZ-

lo. mTavrobaSic TiTqmis aravis vicnobdi.

arada, Tavidan yvelanairad gverdSi vedeqi - rCeviT, fina-

nsebiT. veubnebodi, oRond Tqven korufcia mospeT da wesr-

igi daamyareT, rac saWiroa, yvelafriT dagexmarebiT-meTqi.

sazogadoebas rom egona, mTavrobas sorosi afinansebda, sin-

amdvileSi, im Tanxas, ZiriTadad, me vixdidi.

dro rom gadioda, raRaceebi mesmoda da ar momwonda, ma-

gram 7 noembers ukve Zalian daviZabe da miSas davureke. mi-

Txra, mogcem yvela masalas, merabiSvili Camova da Camogit-

anso. amasobaSi `imedis~ ambebi datrialda. Zalian gacecxl-

ebulma davureke, WorvilaSi viyavi. kategoriulad movTxo-

ve `SeaCere!~ meubneboda: Sen ar ici, ra xdeba... saSineleba

xdeba... saxelmwifo gadatrialeba xdeba... mere agixsnio.

meore dRes Camovedi da vkiTxe, aba, ra moxda-meTqi. ra Tq-

ma unda, araferi hqondaT realuri, riTic damarwmunebdnen.

sul meubneboda, SenTan urTierToba CemTvis Zalian Zvirfa-

siao. me vuTxari, rom Cvens urTierTobaze aRar iyo saubari

- `saswrafod gadadeqi da sazogadoebam Seafasos Seni saqc-

ieli. pirdapir geubnebi, rom CemTvis miuRebeli prezidenti

xar~.

meore dRes damireka da miTxra, gadavdgebio. mere gavige,

rom amaSi ucxoeTic yofila Careuli.

gamixarda, rom gadadga. magram amiT raRac pasuxismgebl-

obac vigrZeni. radgan rCeviT daxmarebas mTxovda, mec, nawi-

lobriv, CaverTe procesSi. televizoris yureba daviwye da

amasobaSi mivxvdi, rom ar yofila saqme ise, me rom megona.

(gagrZeleba me-55 gverdze)

mciredi SemoklebiT gTavazobT politikos biZina ivaniSvi-

lis intervius, romelic am dReebSi man Jurnalist ia anT-

aZes misca da internetsait `tribuna. ge~-zze gamoqveynda.

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aWara P . S . - 2011 wlis 2 5 o qtomb eri #24 ( 6 2 0 )

3gazeTi aris saqarTvelosregionuli mediis asociaciis

sruluflebiani wevri

qarTveli azdakis sikvdili. . .

gardasaxvebis didostati grimis gareSe...

_ batono ramaz, sadauri qarTveli

xarT, anu romeli kuTxidanaa davaleb-

uli aserigad saqarTvelo? CxikvZeebi

CoxataurSic saxloben!

_ diax, swored Coxatauris Caisub-

nidan wamosulan Cemi mSoblebis mamap-

apani, cnobili mWedelebi yofilan, Te-

lavs dasaxlebulan, iq dabadebula ba-

buaCemi, guruli kaci. igi istorikosi,

musikaTmcodne yofila, simRerebs agr-

ovebda, TbilisSi damkvidrebula, iq da-

ibada mamaCemi da, raRa Tqma

unda, mec... mamaCemi grigol

CxikvaZe xelovnebaTmcodne,

musikaTmcodne, konservator-

iis profesori, doqtori ga-

xldaT. dedasac konservato-

ria hqonda damTavrebuli.

orTaves Zalian undoda mec

musikosi gavmxdariyavi. Svi-

di wlisa konservatoriis

niWierTa klasSi Caviricxe,

gamocdebze Cemi improvizaciebi davuk-

ari da ariqa, mocarti daibadao... Cemi

pedagogi qalbatoni Tamar CareqiSvili

iyo, rogorc maxsovs, gatacebiT vswav-

lobdi da mSoblebs did imedebs vaZ-

levdi, magram yvelaferi ukuRma Setr-

ialda, roca mozard mayurebelTa Tea-

trSi (ukve 13 wlisa) speqtaklze wa-

miyvanes dasaswrebad... axlac Tvalwin

midgas es speqtakli `Soreuli gziT~,

swored am speqtaklis Semdeg miviRe

uryevi gadawyvetileba _ msaxiobi gav-

mxdariyavi Cemi mSoblebisaTvis saval-

alod. wyalSi CaeyaraT amdeni cda... ma-

maCemma konservatoriaSi gadasayvani ga-

mocdebidan gamo-

magdo... aSkarad

igrZno, musikaze

guli amicruvda... musikalur teqniku-

mSi gadamiyvanes. aqac igive da ai, pio-

nerTa sasaxleSi dramatuli wris we-

vrebi gavxdiT me da Cemi megobari gi-

vi vladimeraSvili. gamocda mogviwyv-

es, migviRes. patara kaxic viTamaSe, ra-

indi _ `robin hudidan~... Tedo wero-

Ze iyo SesaniSnavi reJisori da peda-

gogi, didi madli hqonda Cvenze, isic

guruli. mere guram saRaraZe movida,

karlo sakandeliZe, gogi gamsaxurdia.

mxatvrul kiTxvaSi didebuli pedago-

gi nodar CxeiZe gvamzadebda... es iyo

Cveni bednieri bedi... 47 welSi Teatr-

alur instituts rom mivadeqiT, ukve

gamzadebuli artistebi viyaviT. yvel-

ani CaviricxeT.

_ da albaT es iyo yvelaze sauke-

Teso wlebi Tqvens cxovrebaSi, ara,

batono ramaz?

_ didebuli reJisorebi gvyavdnen,

dodo aleqsiZe, miSa TumaniSvili, dav-

iT CxartiSvili. iq ukve figaroc vi-

yavi, leninic, Cipurnoi (gorkis piesa).

iqedan pirdapir rusTavelis TeatrSi

gamanawiles...

_ Tqveni usayvarlesi roli, iqneb

me, rogorc reportiori, Tanmimdevru-

li ara var, magram Tqveni Seqmnili ge-

nialuri saxeebi maiZuleben ase moviq-

ce...

_ iciT, roca sruliad axalgazrdas,

TeatrSi Tvenaxevris misuls lendros

rols mogcemen `espaneli mRvdelidan~

da Seni satrfo didebuli da mSvenie-

ri qalbatoni medea Caxava iqneba, SeiZ-

leba es saxe ar giyvardes? es Cemi us-

ayvarlesi roli iyo, es ar iyo bedni-

ereba?... mere filosofiis doqtori da

Cemi partniorebi manana alfaiZe, gogi

gegeWkori, erosi manjga-

laZe... Tu mayurebelma

Seni roli ar Seiyvara,

SeiZleba Sen giyvard-

es? Cems bedze aseTi

sayvareli roli bevri

iyo, meSinia romelimes

ar vawyenino...

_ Tqven `kavkasiur

carcis wreSi~ saxal-

xo mosamarTlis dauv-

iwyari roli iTamaSeT... axla rom az-

daki iyoT, samarTals rogor iqmdiT?

_ namdvilad kargi mosamarTle viq-

nebodi da met WeSmaritebas davadgen-

di. azdaki Zalian filosofiurad da

cxovrebiseulad uyurebs yvelafers.

man icis vis asamarTlebs da rac ginda

gasamarTlebeli sabuTi hqondes, boro-

tuli damnaSave mis Tvals ar epareba.

mis gverdze mdgom sawyal kacs, simar-

Tlis garda araviTari damxmare rom

ar hyavs, patiobs patara danaSauls da

Tavs imas esxmis, visac hgonia gadair-

Cens Tavs an simdidriT, an yalbi mow-

`... namdvilad kargi mosamarTle viqnebodi

da met WeSmaritebas davadgendi. azdaki

Zalian filosofiurad da cxovrebiseulad

uyurebs yvelafers. man icis vis asamarTlebs

da rac ginda gasamarTlebeli sabuTi

hqondes, borotuli damnaSave mis Tvals

ar epareba...~

((ggaaggrrZZeelleebbaa mmee - 44 ggvveerrddzzee))

qarTveli xalxi gulistkiviliT gamoeTxova Tanamedro-

eveobis gamoCenil qarTvel msaxiobs ramaz CxikvaZes.

ramazis Teatraluri da kinorolebi samudamod daimkvi-

drebs adgils erovnuli kulturis oqros fondSi. misi ma-

Rali niWierebiT aRbeWdili saxeebi xalxma Seiyvara da say-

vareli msaxiobi qarTuli kulturis korifeebis akaki xo-

ravas, lado mesxiSvilis, akaki vasaZis, uSangi CxeiZis, Salva

SavguliZis, sergo zaqariaZis, vaso goZiaSvilis, veriko an-

jafariZis, sesilia TayaiSvilis, iusuf kobalaZis, erosi ma-

njgalaZis da sxva didostTa gverdiT sicocxleSive daa-

yena.

aTwleulebis manZilze iRvawa rusTavelis TeatrSi da

lomis wili miuZRvis saerTaSoriso avtoritetisa da mso-

flioSi saxeldebul Teatrebs Soris maRali reitingis

mopovebaSi.

Zvirfasi ramazi suliT da xorciT qarTveli msaxiobi

iyo da Tavis xibls matebda erovnul cnobierebas. is iyo

didostati, romelic xelmwifis navSi arasdros Camjdara,

is iyo kaci, romelic Tavisi baTumeli kolegebiviT, ilia

WavWavaZis Zeglis demontaJs xels ar moawerda da motexas

SeuSverda Tavs, is iyo msaxiobi, romelic amaRlebda da sa-

mSoblos siyvaruliT aRanTebda Cvens sulebs.

ramaz CxikvZem moixsna Teatraluri niRabi da Tavaweulma

ukanaskneli nabiji ukvdavebaSi gadadga.

SoTa zoiZe

mediajgufi `aWara P.S.~-iis arqivs SemorCa ramaz CxikvaZis metad saintereso interviu, romelic 2007 wels

qobuleTSi, biznesmen Temur Wyonias saxlSi CavwereT, Cvens redaqciebs ki amSvenebs did xelovanTan gadaRebuli aw

ukve unikaluri fotoebi. xsenebul intervius ramaz CxikvaZesTan gazeTis dRevandel nomerSi gTavazobT.

martis Wirveuli dReebis mdumarebaa qobuleTSi. is xan

msusxavi qar-wwvimiT da Rrublebis qaravniT gaiseirnebs mi-

tovebul sanapiroze, xan ki zafxulis mcxunvarebiT SeeTa-

maSeba talRebis Cqefsa da moxasxase qviSas...

romantikosi Tu ewveva qobuleTs am dros... hoda, swored

axlaxan Tvalwarmtac vilaSi Temur Wyonias didebuli stu-

mari ewvia.

ramaz CxikvaZe - dramatuli msaxiobi, romelmac Tanamed-

roveobas oTxi genialuri Teatraluri saxe aCuqa - azdaki,

mefe liri, riCard mesame da yvaryvare TuTaberi...

...holSi Tbiloda. ganieri fanjrebidan sanapiro da Camu-

qebuli zRva imzireboda, batoni ramazi msubuqi xmauriT Se-

movida da siCume aavso misi xmis tembrma... Tayvani mindoda

meca Cveni drois gmirisaTvis... man ki ubralod da swrafad

savarZlebis dekoracia Secvala da yvela rolidan gamosu-

li, mkveTri grimebisagan Camorecxili, mSvidi RimiliT pir-

veli kiTxvisaTvis ganewyo...

mediajgufi `aWara P.S.~-iis fotoqronika

SSeexxvveeddrraa ssaaaarrCCeevvnnookkoommiissiiaaSSii

baTumis saolqo saarCevno kom-

isiis samocdamecxramete ubanSi

saqarTvelos centraluri saarC-

evno komisiis warmomadgenlebma

regionul mediasTan Sexvedra ga-

marTes.

Sexvedris mizezad saolqo sa-

arCevni komitetsa da regionul

medias Soris komunikaciis prob-

lema dasaxelda. ceskos warmom-

adgenlebma Jurnalistebs saarCe-

vno garemos gaumjobesebasa da

axali monitoringis jgufis Cam-

oyalibebaze esaubres. Sexvedraz-

eve daisaxa 2011-15 wlebis str-

ategiuli gegma, romelSic saarC-

evno administraciis misia, xedva,

moqmedebis principebi da strat-

egiuli miznebia gansazRvruli.

treningis gamarTvis mizani med-

iis warmomadgenelTaTvis saarCe-

vno administraciis samomavlo

gegmis gacnoba iyo, radgan dain-

teresebul mxareebTan praqtiku-

li TanamSromlobis mizniT saar-

Cevno administracia informaciis

generirebasa da mxareebisaTvis

dauyovnebliv miwodebas uwyvet

reJimSi axorcielebs.

centraluri saarCevno komisiis

komunikaciebis konsultantis ni-

koloz prospasevdovis gancxade-

biT, am xasiaTis treningebi xels

Seuwyobs saarCevno administrac-

iasa da medias Soris komunikaci-

ebis gamyarebas, informirebuli

arCevanis gakeTebas.

Sexvedris msvlelobisas, arCe-

vnebis mimdinareobis procesSi,

amomrCevelTa informaciis done-

ze komentari gaakeTa centralu-

ri saarCevno komisiis warmomad-

genelma da regionul mediasTan

urTierTobis sakiTxSi konsult-

antma Tamar mWedliSvilma. mogv-

ianebiT ki man arCevnebis mimdina-

reobis procesSi mediis mniSvne-

lobaze isaubra.

qalbatoni Tamaris gancxadebiT,

arCevnebis sakiTxSi gaTviTcnobi-

erebuli Jurnalisti niSnavs in-

formirebul amomrCvels. yovel-

ive es ki demokratiuli arCevne-

bis winapirobaa.

centraluri saarCevno komisia

kvlav gegmavs am saxis treninge-

bis Catarebas mediasaSualebebTan

da imedovnebs, rom es siaxle xe-

ls Seuwyobs saarCevno administ-

raciis saqmianobasa da saarCevno

procesis gaumjobesebas.

marika dumbaZe

kkiiddeevv eerrTTii mmeeggoobbaarrii

qobuleTis municipaliteti da

litvis qalaqi palanga damegob-

rdnen. memorandums xeli palang-

as merma Saronas vaitkusma da

qobuleTis sakrebulos Tavmjd-

omare niko beraZem moaweres. me-

morandumis Tanaxmad, or qalaqs

Soris TanamSromloba sxvadasxva

sferoebSi igegmeba. prioritetu-

li turizmisa da soflis meur-

neobis sferoebi iqneba.

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regionuli mediis asociaciissruluflebiani wevri

qarTveli azdakis sikvdili

gardasaxvebis didostatigrimis gareSe...

meebiT... filosofiuri datvirTva aqvs am rols. Ce-

mi bedniereba is iyo, rom dramatuli rolebic mqon-

da da komediuric.

_ rogorc maxsovs, Tqven es speqtakli germani-

aSi, saarbrukenSi, brextis samSobloSi CaitaneT...

_ es Zalian rTuli iyo. roca roli mis samSo-

bloSi Cagaqvs, Sen kritikulad giyurebs mayurebe-

li... ufro metic, sagastrolod movemzadeT da pr-

odiuseri gakvirvebuli darCa, brexti Zalian erTf-

erovani da mosawyenia, ratom airCieT es reJisor-

io. magram Cven ara marto saarbriukenelebi ganvac-

vifreT, mTeli germania, berlini... da Tu daijerebT,

brextze maTi Sexedulebac 180 gradusiT Sevcva-

leT.

_ da amaSi batoni robert sturuas ganumeoreb-

eli reJisoruli xedva iyo xorcxSesxmuli...

_ ganumeorebeli robert sturuasi, romelmac br-

extis `kavkasiur wres~ sul sxva suli STabera da

araCveulebrivi Teatraluri foierverki warmoadg-

ina...

_ brexti da kavkasia, saqarTvelo?

_ qarTvelebzea es dawerili, saxelebi, gvarebi qa-

rTulicaa da gansxvavebulic. Tumca, didi da axlo

kavSiri aqvs saqarTvelos istoriasTan, magram dra-

maturgiulad moargo brextma rogorc SeeZlo...

mTavari isaa, rom es speqtakli saqarTvelosadmia

miZRvnili... rom es `mosawyeni~ sturuasa da msax-

iobTa ansamblis tandemi iyo, ganumeorebeli tande-

mi. Zalian saxifaTo iyo londonSi riCardiT da me-

fe liriT sadRac, ucnobi saqarTvelodan Casvla.

xom iciT, rogori eWviani xalxia iq, inglisSi sul

zepirad ician sad, vin iTama-

Sa Seqspiri, bareliefebi da

suraTebia gamofenili Teat-

ris foeiSi Seqspiris gmirTa

Semsrulebeli msaxiobebisa...

iq iseTi saarako Sefaseba mi-

viReT... Cveni suraTebic Se-

emata galereas... da aq saqa-

rTvelo gamodioda gamarjv-

ebuli, Cveni didi Teatralu-

ri kultura. Cven es SevZel-

iT, Torem saqarTveloze mayurebelTagan Zalian co-

tas Tu smenoda rame... stalins Tu axsenebdi, mere

Tu mixvdebodnen... diax, magram Cveni, mec da batoni

robikos usayvarlesi dadgma da roli iyo po-

likarpe kakabaZis `yvaryvare~, igi brextze da Seq-

spirze adre avida Cveni Teatris scenaze. sul sxva

gaazrebiT dadga igi robert sturuam da mec sul

sxva gaazrebiT vTamaSobdi mas... am speqtaklma dros

gauswro...

_ Tqven fiqrobT?

_ diax.

_ da yvaryvareebi mere movidnen?

_ isini yovel droSi arsebobdnen... saubedurod,

moxda ise, rom speqtakli gadaRebuli iyo da waiS-

ala... mTavrobaSi am `yvaryvares~ gaSveba mainc da

mainc ar undodaT. Zalian ar undoda moskovsac...

_ moskovTan Tqveni urTierToba?

_ Zalian uyvardaT Cveni Teatri, didi pativiT gv-

iRebdnen. igi Zalian Teatraluri qalaqia. aq xdeb-

oda Cveni pirveli gamocda. moskovi brwyinavda re-

JisorebiT, tradiciebiT, SesaniSnavi Teatrmcodneeb-

iT.

ra ar Cagvitania, `samaniSvilis dedinacv-

alic~ ki...

_ rusul scenebze xom ar giTamaSiaT?

_ mxolod da mxolod kinofilmebSi.

didi xani araa, rac gadaiRes kinoseriali,

romelSic ginekologiuri saavadmyofos

eqimis rols vTamaSobdi. axla Cveni tr-

agediaa, amodena reJisorebi, amodena msa-

xiobebi uZravad arian... erTaderTi kino

gadaiRo giorgi Sengelaiam, biZina ivaniSvilma daa-

finansa, komedia `midis matarebeli~. didebul saqmes

akeTebs ivaniSvili, guSin viyavi da viamaye im mSve-

nieri, grandiozuli parkiT, romelic mas gaukeTebia

qobuleTis mimdebared. ai, qarTveli kaci. TbilisSi

dangrevis piras misuli Teatrebi aRadgina...

_ batono ramaz, ras fiqrobT Teatris dRevand-

elobaze, kulturis, ganaTlebis sferoSi mimdinare

radikalur gardaqmnebze?

_ simarTle giTxraT, aseT rameebSi ar verevi, ra-

dgan diletanturi Sefaseba gamomiva mxolod. cota

unda movicadoT, Sedegs davelodoT. rezultati

ras moutans studentebs, profesor-maswavleblebs.

sasiamovno ar aris es Sexla -Semoxlebi, magram iq-

neb Sedegma gaamarTlos...

_ batono ramaz, qobuleTSi am adrian gazafxu-

lze CamoxvediT. zafxulSi?

_ qobuleTi Cems bavSvobas magonebs. ardadegebze

ori Tve bebiaCemTan viyavi imereTSi, erTi Tve ki `ku-

rzalis~ gverdiT... viTxove kidec, maCveneT `kur-

zali~ meTqi...

_ jerjerobiT ucvlelad dgas.

_ diax, da... Tu RmerTma dRegrZelmyo, ra Tqma un-

da, Camoval... batonma Temurma momipatiJa. Cven mego-

brebi varT. ori dRiT Camovedi da arafriT ar mi-

rCia ukan ase Cqara dabruneba. ras izam, sasiamovno

maspinZlis tyveobaSi gaxlavarT, ratomRac ase mgo-

nia, uwin qobuleTSi plaJic ukeTesi iyo... ferad-

ferad kenWebs vagrovebdiT da TbilisSi migvqonda.

saocari iyo, saswauliviT... dRes aRaraa, magram qo-

buleTis plaJi yovelTvis sasurveli da andamatu-

ria... ramdeni Sendeba, Tundac ager, yofili sanator-

iumis adgilas unikalur, evrostandartis sastum-

ro-klinikas aSenebs batoni Temuri. saocari aveji-

ca da samedicino teqnikac aqvs SeZenili. vnaxe ki-

dec.... iseT xalxs, rogoric Temur Wyonia, biZina iv-

aniSvili da badri patarkaciSvilia, TavianTi uanga-

ro sikeTisaTvis cota meti mofereba sWirdebaT, nu

gavbrazdebiT... Cven sxva, maTi msgavsi ara gvyavs, r-

azea Seqmnili `mefe liri~? umadurobaze... es uma-

duroba magiJebs, Cvens qveyanaSi ician xSirad. igive

robiko stutua, reebi aqvs gakeTebuli... saqarTvel-

os kultura da xelovneba msoflios uCvena. Tea-

tris msoflio mniSvnelobis novatoria. gTxovT,

aucileblad daweroT... aucileblad!

_ da Tqven moismendiT eTerSi robert sturuas

gancxadebas, mas ase gabeduls da riskians gacnob-

ierebuli aqvs dRevandelobisa, varCev sityvebso,

ganacxada, ras niSnavs es?...

_ robikos vicnob im dRidan, rac TeatrSi movi-

da. pirveli dRidanve Cvens wreSi SeviyvaneT, es iyo

erosis, guramis, badrisa da sxvaTa samegobro... man

dadga didad gaxmaurebuli `seilemis procesi~ da

vityodi, rom Zalian maRali xarisxiT. Tavisi gaaz-

reba aqvs, niWiericaa, Rrmad erudirebuli, musika es-

mis da xatavs kargad. misi dadgmebi mitom iyo ase

xorcsavse, mitom vimarjvebdiT, mitom moipova mso-

flio avtoriteti. Zlieri reJisura iyo. Zlieri

Taobac davxvdiT, ager gia yanCeli, biZina kvernaZe,

gvyavda gogi mesxiSvili, SveliZe, ai, es xalxi moik-

riba robertma garSemo. es iyo profesionaluri

Teatri da dRes robert sturuam romc araferi ga-

akeTos, sul Tavze xeli unda usva da madloba u-

xado...

sturuam sruliad axali sityva Tqva da msoflio

aalaparaka. es araa bedniereba da saamayo? ar Sei-

Zleba, umaduri ar unda iyo. is kidev Seqmnis, Tea-

trSi axali Taoba movida, niWieri, mzardi... saxeli

rom gauTqvan marto Teatrs ki ara, Cvens samSobl-

os! amitom robert sturuas Tavi daanebos yvelam!

axla isic gavige patarkaciSvilze daiwyes raRac.

ra, waarTva rame saqarTvelos? wava da kargad br-

ZandebodeT, gvetyvis. ras moigeb magiT. fuli ar eq-

neba da ver icxovrebs Tu? ase rom, yoyoCobas Tavi

davaneboT suyvelam. ena uZvloa da yvelafers it-

yvis.

_ ras mouwonebdiT da ras dauwunebdiT Cvens

mTavrobas, rogorc moqalaqe da rogorc didi xe-

lovani, ris deficits ganvicdiT?

_ Cvens mTavrobas meti dafiqreba sWirdeba. saq-

arTvelo dRes iseT dReSia, patara Secdomac ki Se-

iZleba sabediswero gaxdes. as-

jer Tu ar gavzomavT, samjer

mainc unda gavzomoT. amis de-

ficiti aqvs rogorc pirvel

xelisufals, ise mis momdevno-

ebs, Tumca bevrs kargs akeTeb-

en, magram ise ar unda gamovi-

des, Zroxam iwvela, iwvela da

bolos fexi hkrao...

_ siyvarulis garda saqar-

Tvelom ra mogcaT? anu Tqve-

ni samTavrobo Sefaseba?

_ savse maqvs mkerdi `JeStebiT~, ordenebiT _ yv-

elanairiT, rac arasdros miTxovia...

_ iqneb cota ram Tqvens meuRleze.

_ nataSa komaxiZe - CikvaiZisa.

_ ras ambobT, qarTuli geni aqvs?

_ mamamisi didi xania cxovrobda ruseTSi. deda

poloneli Tu ukraineli ebraeli, ianiuki... TiTqmis

45 welia erTad varT. metalurgia profesiiT, didi

fantaziebi aqvs. gvaqvs saxli lisis tbis qvemoT,

mxatvrebis ubanSi. saxsrebi rom Semogvelia, misi me-

cadineobiT saxls sastumro mivaSeneT da amiT va-

rsebobT...

_ Tqveni Tanavarskvlavedi, Tqveni megobrebi?

_ isini bevrni iyvnen da Semomecalnen: salome ya-

nCeli, buxuti zaqariaZe, erosi manjgalaZe, badri ko-

maxiZe, gogi gegeWkori, ediSer maRalaSvili, karlo

sakandeliZe da guram saRaraZe SemomrCnen. jemal

RaRaniZe ki jer axalgazrdaa.

baton ramazs kuriozis gaxseneba vTxoveT... zog-

jer sadRegrZeloSi imdeni mogiva eqspromtad, axla

ki verc erTs ver gavixsenebo, bodiSi moixada...

saubari gagvigrZelda, Tumca es iyo epopea, romel-

ic midis da raRac grandiozuls tovebs.

eTer CxaiZe

`aWara P.S.~2007 wlis 15 marti #11 (494)

redaqciisagan: ramaz CxikvaZe didi danaklisia qv-

eynisaTvis, marTalia igi samudamo galaktioniseul

vardisfer gzas gauyva, magram man sicocxleSive

daudga Zegli ukvdavebas... TanavugrZnobT batoni

ramazis yvela axlobels, Tanamoazresa da sruli-

ad saqarTvelos.

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aWara P . S . - 2011 wlis 2 5 o qtomb eri #24 ( 6 2 0 )

5gazeTi aris saqarTvelosregionuli mediis asociaciis

sruluflebiani wevri

politikuri interviu

`revoluciis gagoneba ar minda~Turme, Tbiliselebi dasanaxad veRar itandnen.

arCevnebamde ori kviriT adre davinaxe, rom aman

sazogadoebis ise ganawyeneba moaxerxa, - xmebs ver

agrovebs. vuTxari - ise Cans, arCevnebs ver moigeb-

meTqi. Tavidan ixtibars ar itexda, magram arCevneb-

amde erTi kviriT adre gamomityda, mZimed aris saq-

meo. ukve mivxvdi, rac xdeboda, magram dawyebulis

gawyveta da procesidan gamosvla ver vikadre, mag-

ram kontaqti Sevamcire. Zalian Semrcxva Cemi Tavi-

sa am yvelafris Semdeg. ganvicade, rom swori poz-

icia ver daviWire droulad. mokled, ase iyo Tu

ise, inauguraciis dRes davureke da vuTxari, rom

erTmaneTs vemSvidobebodiT. im wuTSi Zalian Secba

da miTxra - mtovebo? me ki vupasuxe, ras niSnavs,

gtoveb - inauguraciis dRe gaqvs, arCevnebs xom ar

iwyeb-meTqi. ase damTavrda es ambavi.

- rogor fiqrobT, xelisuflebam ndoba imis gamo

xom ar dakarga, rom 2004 wlidan moyolebuli, mi-

xeil saakaSvils erTpirovnuli Zalaufleba hqon-

da? parlamentSi nacionalur moZraobas mudmivad

gahyavda sakonstitucio umravlesoba, xolo yvela

adgilobriv arCeviT organoSi – umravlesoba, rac

saxelisuflo partias saSualebas aZlevda, aravis-

Tvis gaewia angariSi da TviTneburi gadawyvetileb-

ebi mieRo.

- geTanxmebiT. rodesac me vambob, rom absolut-

uri umravlesobiT moval, vgulisxmob sakonstitu-

cio umravlesobas plus erTi. CemTvis idealuria

parlamenti, sadac sami partiaa da arc erTs maTgans

ar aqvs 50%. orpartiuli parlamenti ar mimaCnia

saukeTeso variantad. oTxic SeiZleba iyos, xuTic

da metic, magram vfiqrob, rom

parlamentSi yvelaze efeqtu-

ri iqneba sami partia.

am etapze sakonstitucio um-

ravlesobis aucileblobas im-

itom vxedav, rom, ufro patara

gundiT arsebiT sistemur cv-

lilebebs ver ganvaxorciele-

bT, vinaidan Cveni da nacional-

ebis xedvebi Zireulad gansxv-

avdeba erTmaneTisgan. arada,

pirveli, rac unda gavakeToT, aucilebelia, rom ko-

nstitucia gavmarToT.

- rogori iqneboda kargi konstitucia TqvenTvis?

ra pretenzia gaqvT am konstituciasTan?

- amaT xelweras vxedav - roca undaT da rogorc

undaT, erT RameSi ise gadaweren da moirgeben kon-

stitucias, rom xelisuflebaSi darCnen da miaRwi-

on singapurizacias, Tu raRac aseTs... magaT rom hk-

iTxo, sul egeni unda iyvnen da iyvnen. kargi is ko-

nstitucia ki ar iqneba, romelsac me davwer, aramed,

is, romelzec sazogadoeba SeTanxmdeba. aseve, unda

Sedges - rasac miSasac vTavazobdi - qveynis ganvi-

Tarebis strategiuli gegma: ra unda gakeTdes das-

avleTSi, aRmosavleTSi, mTaSi, barSi... es gegma unda

Seadginon profesianalebma da is misawvdomi unda

iyos sazogadoebis yvela wevrisTvis. me ki maqvs Ce-

mi warmodgena, magram marto arafers gadavwyvet, sa-

zogadoebam unda gadawyvitos, rogori wesiT surs

cxovreba.

- mixeil saakaSvili sakonstitucio umravlesob-

is aucileblobas xsnida imiT, rom qveyanaSi swraf

da efeqtian reformebs mxolod erTiani, Sekruli

gundi gaatarebda. prezidentis gadawyvetilebebi

arc mTavrobaSi ferxdeba da arc parlamentSi, ma-

gram am realobam Seiwira demokratia. xom ar sj-

obda, reformebi ufro nela, debatebisa da disku-

siebis fonze warmarTuliyo, aseT reJimSi muSaoba

mosaxleobas bevri TviTneburi gadawyvetilebisgan

daicavda? is argumenti, rac Tqven brZaneT, zustad

emTxveva saakaSvilis arguments.

- reformebis eqsportiori qveyana varTo, rom ac-

xadebdnen, realurad, ori reforma gaatares da or-

ive didi xarvezebiT, razec zemoTac gesaubreT. amis

garda, maT arc erTi reforma ar ganuxorcielebiaT.

marTvis gamocdileba ar gaaCniaT, arc ician da verc

SeiZenen verasdros. rac moxda, amaT siCqaris gamo

ki ar mouvidaT, aramed - ucodinrobiT. ver davwam-

eb, rom ar undodaT. bevri meubneboda, eseni qveynis

dasangrevad arian mosulebio. me amas ver viziareb.

bevr rames maTi umecrebiTa da TaviseburebiT vxsni.

axla Tqven meubnebiT, rom rasac isini ambobdnen, Tq-

venc imaves ambobT da ratom unda dagijeroTo. ram-

denic unda virtya gulSi xeli, ra Tqma unda, Teo-

riulad amis safrTxe arsebobs. Tumca, imisTvis, rom

mendoT, warsulSi unda gavixedoT, Cemi gavlili gza

unda gaiTvaliswinoT - ras mivaRwie da ra damok-

idebuleba maqvs Cemi qveynis mimarT.

SeiZleba, msoflioSi ver naxoT magaliTi, roca

kacs politika kategoriulad ar undoda da mainc

politikaSi movida. roca vambob, rom evropelebi Se-

iZleba gavakvirvo demokratiiT, vgulisxmob imas,

rom saqarTvelo patara qveyanaa da bevri ramis ga-

keTeba SedarebiT iolad SeiZleba. Tumca, me meocne-

be var, magram pragmatizmic myofnis da konservati-

zmic. politikaSi radgan movedi, ese igi, maqvs ganc-

da, rom SemiZlia, es movaxerxo.

- da mainc unda CageZioT. damoukidebeli saqar-

Tvelos istorias cudad daebeda e.w. “absoluturi

umravlesobis” sindromi. SeuZlebelia, daviviwyoT,

rom partiebi xelisuflebaSi modiodnen didi umr-

avlesobiT da didi ndobiT, magram midiodnen poli-

tikuri kataklizmebiT. maT adgils ikavebda axali

umravlesoba – imave perspeqtiviT. Tqven saqarTve-

los mosaxleobas hpirdebiT, rom absoluturi um-

ravlesobiT moxvalT da or–sam weliwadSi arsebiT

reformebs gaatarebT. Tavad es umravlesoba xom ar

aRmoCndeba safrTxe, erTi mxriv, TqvenTvis da, me-

ore mxriv, mosaxleobisTvis? ukeTesi xom ar iqne-

ba, rom mojadoebuli wre gairRves da ZalTa bala-

nsze damyarebuli parlamenti Camoyalibdes? Tund-

ac, Seiqmnas kanoni, romelic gamarjvebul partias

mandatebis raodenobis zeda zRvars ganusazRvravs

da koaliciis Seqmnas aiZulebs?

- Zalian kargi kiTxvaa. zustad amas vapireb, roca

konstituciur cvlilebebze vsaubrob. Cven iseTi

konstitucia unda SevqmnaT, rom gamovricxoT ris-

kebi. magram am etapze, CemTvis idealuri balansiT -

erTi mesamediT - rom movideT - qveyanaSi araferi

Seicvleba. me ki Zireul cvlilebebs vgegmav da amis

Semdeg xelisuflebidan waval. aqamde es ar miTqva-

ms: vapireb, gadavide Cven mier Seqmnili mTavrobis

opoziciaSi. roca Cems pirvel werilSi vTqvi, rom

ori-sami wlis Semdeg waval. es imas niSnavs, rom Ce-

mi mTavrobis pirveli oponenti me viqnebi da yvel-

anairad gavaZliereb opozicias, raTa saTanado kon-

troli gavuwio xelisuflebas. amis precedenti mi-

nda, rom Sevqmna.

- axla Tqven Zalian mniSvnelovani gancxadeba ga-

akeTeT, romelic gulze Camokidebuli lodiviT ge-

qnebaT: gindaT, moxvideT umravlesobiT, raTa Seqm-

naT konstitucia da qveynis marTvis modeli, rom-

elic erTpartiul marTvas da avtoritarizms gam-

oricxavs.

- diax, konstitucia Zalian mniSvnelovania. magram

avtoritarizmisgan mxolod konstitucia ver dag-

vicavs. sazogadoebac mzad unda iyos. swored sazo-

gadoebis gaZlierebas vapireb, es aris Cemi umTavre-

si mizani.

- bevri darwmunebulia, rom Tqven arCevnebis mo-

sagebad sakmaris xmebs moizidavT; aseve, bevri amb-

obs, rom saarCevno garemos Secvlis gareSe arCev-

nebSi Tqvens monawileobasac ki ekargeba azri, ra-

dgan nacionaluri moZraoba mainc im Sedegs dadebs,

rac sWirdeba. rogor apirebT, aiZuloT xelisuf-

leba, Secvalos saarCevno garemo? Tu migaCniaT,

arsebul pirobebSic SesaZlebelia arCevnebis moge-

ba? sakuTari politikuri gundis Camoyalibebas Tu

apirebT?

- gundis Camoyalibebas aucileblad vapireb. cxa-

dia, partiac unda Camovayalibo. marTalia, arsebobs

gancda, rom es SeuZlebelia, magram mjera, rom es Se-

saZlebeli iqneba.

vfiqrob, xelisufleba legitimur CarCoSi moeqc-

eva. amis rwmenas ar vkargav. rac Seexeba saarCevno

garemos: magaliTad, mzad var piradad davafinanso

biometriuli pasportebi, raki mTavrobam ganacxada,

rom amis fuli ar aqvs. Tumca, mimaCnia, rom arCevn-

ebs arsebul pirobebSic movigebT, sul rom araferi

Seicvalos.

es kanonmdebloba maSina aris saSiSi, Tuki Cveni

da maTi Sedegi axlos iqneba erTmaneTTan. naciona-

lebi realurad miiReben aTidan oc procentamde xm-

ebs. imisaTvis, rom amerikam da evropam Sedegebi le-

gitimurad cnos, maqsimum, am procentis gaormageba

SeuZliaT da meti - ara. me ukidures variants ge-

ubnebiT, amis mets ver SeZleben.

- 2003 wels mixeil saakaS-

vilma Tavisuflebis moedanze

Sekrebil xalxs mimarTa, Tu

SevardnaZe xalxis nebis winaa-

Rmdeg wava, is miiRebs revol-

uciaso. Tqven ganacxadeT, rom

saakaSvils ar unda mivceT qv-

eynis marTvis gagrZelebis uf-

leba saprezidento vadis amo-

wurvis Semdeg. Tu igi mainc

ver Seeleva Zalauflebas, am

SemTxvevaSi, Tqvens leqsikonSi xom ar gaCndeba

sityva “revolucia”?

- Zalian ar minda es sityva gamoviyeno. Tu am si-

tyvis gamoyeneba momixda, CavTvli, rom Cemi mosvla

politikaSi mcdari iyo. magram, me mgonia, rom dro-

ulad da sworad movedi da xelisuflebis Secvlas

yovelgvari revoluciis gareSe movaxerxebT. Tu sa-

akaSvili arCevnebis gayalbebas sxvadasxva meqanizm-

iT moaxerxebs, SevZlebT misi aralegitimurobis da-

mtkicebas. is xelisuflebaSi gayalbebuli arCevneb-

iT ver mova. sityva “revoluciis” gagoneba ar mi-

nda da arc sityva “quCis” xseneba minda. xelisuf-

lebis arCevnebiT Secvlis pirveli precedenti un-

da SevqmnaT. es erT-erTi didi warmateba iqneba.

- bevr adamians gaukvirda Tqveni mxridan TanamS-

romlobis SeTavazeba vano merabiSvilisadmi, rome-

lic xelisuflebas sakuTar xerxemlad miaCnia. me-

rabiSvili - an politikur gadawyvetilebebze pas-

uxismgebeli sxva pirebi - rogor SeiZleba sasarge-

blo da misaRebi aRmoCndnen im sazogadoebisTvis,

romelic Tqvengan dRevandeli sistemis Zirfesvian-

ad Secvlas elodeba?

- roiterma aseTi SekiTxvac ki damisva, mTavrobaSi

Tu moiazrebT merabiSvilso. cxadia, rom ara. ra Tq-

ma unda, es ar mqonda mxedvelobaSi, roca merabiSv-

ils mivmarTe. dRevandeli xelisuflebis sakvanZo

figurebi axal mTavrobaSi araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar

moiazrebian. maT daTvuri samsaxuri gauwies TviTon

saakaSvils da dRes rac gvWirs - amaSi maTi didi

wvlilia. merabiSvilisadmi Cemi mimarTvis arsi iyo

is, rom Tu sworad moiqcevian da kanonis farglebSi

darCebian arCevnebamde - risi didi survilic maqvs

- maT miecemaT saSualeba, rom, Tundac, politikuri

partia Seqmnan, Tundac, iyvnen biznesSi, an sxva rame

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regionuli mediis asociaciissruluflebiani wevri

s i t y v a s i T x o v s m k i T x v e l i

xxeelloovvnneebbiiss zzeeiimmii

`̀aaWWaarraa P.S.~~ - ssaaggaann

ori dRis ganmavlobaSi, 21-222 oqt-

ombers, mediajgufi `aWara P.S.~ xel-

ovnebis merve saerTaSoriso festiva-

lis satelevizio konkurss `Semodgo-

mis harmonias~ maspinZlobda.

konkursi, romlis videoCanaweri ma-

le Cvens veb-ggverdze ganTavsda, mizn-

ad mediajgufi `aWara P.S.~- is promo-uSens isaxavda.

programa qobuleTis himniT ansamb-

lma `qobuleTma gaxsna~. stumrebs mi-

esalma mediajgufi `aWara P.S.~-is ge-neraluri direqtori jemal megreli-

Ze da konkursis monawile TiToeuli

koleqtivis xelmZRvanels madloba ga-

dauxada da warmatebebi usurva, man xa-

zgasmiT aRniSna ninowmindis musikal-

uri skolis direqtoris vartui mar-

abianis, marneulis gamgeobisa da kul-

turis centris, urekis kulturis sa-

xlis xelmZRvanelobis mxardaWera.

programa urekis bavSvTa qoreograf-

iuli studiis wevrebma gaxsnes brwy-

invaled Sesrulebuli cekva `qarTul-

iT,~ darbazi mquxare ovaciiT Sexvda

scenaze ansambl `erisionis~ axalgaz-

rda Taobis gamoCenas, romlebsac Jiu-

rim Sesrulebis manera da sasceno aR-

kazmuloba mouwona, cekvas ninowminde-

li karine aruTiunianis mier Sesrul-

ebuli araCveulebrivi simRera cvlis,

karine konkursis `gamorCeuli Semsru-

leblis~ titulis mflobeli xdeba

da jeri quTaiselebze midga, ansambli

`mtredebi 2-is~ cecxlovanma `gandag-

anam~ da `mTiulurma~ myisve daipyro

mayureblis guli, maT Jiuris gulis

mogebac SeZles da warmatebuli kol-

eqtivis tituli moipoves, marneulel-

ebma ki SesaniSnavad dadgmuli `svanu-

ri~ da `mTiuluri~ Camogvitanes, aq

unda aRiniSnos, rom ansambl `enguris~

ocdasami wlis xelmZRvaneli levan

yurava konkursze yvelaze axalgazrda

da perspeqtiul qoreografad aRiares,

ansambli ki nominaciaSi `gamorCeuli

qoreografiuli kompozicia - interp-

retaciisTvis~ daajildoves.

Tbilisis xelovnebisa da mecnierebis

akademiis students, individualur Se-

msrulebel beqa CikaSuas prizi sauke-

Teso simReris SesrulebisTvis gadae-

ca, xolo gamorCeuli xalxuri trad-

iciuli nimuSebis warmoCenisTvis mar-

neulis kulturis centrTan arsebu-

li vokaluri ansambli `iberia~ daji-

ldovda, festivalis aRmoCena gaxda

ninowmindis musikalur skolasTan ar-

sebuli vaJTa ansambli `dolebi~, rom-

elmac mayureblis winaSe namdvili sa-

naxaoba gamarTa, konkursis kulminacia-

Si ki quTaisis g. tyvacirias saxelo-

bis qoreografiuli ansambl `mtredeb-

is~ mier warmodgenili `afxazurisa~

da `yazbeguris~ brwyinvale Sesrule-

bam ansambls gamorCeulisa da `monat-

rebuli afxazeTis~ tituli moutana.

SesaniSnavi momzadeba aCvena Suaxevis

raionis buTuraulis skolasTan arse-

bulma ansamblma `imedma~ da nominacia

`gamorCeuli xalxuri tradiciuli ni-

muSebis warmoCena~ daimsaxura.

gansakuTrebuli prizi gadaeca marne-

ulel usinaTlo biWunas Saban mamedo-

vs, saorganizacio komitetma marneul-

is kulturis centris direqtori le-

ri mumlaZe ki kargad momzadebuli ko-

leqtivebis warmodgenisTvis daajild-

ova.

werili sruliad saqarTvelosmTavrobas da qaTvel xalxs

Q minda mogmarToT da gkiTxoT: vis ekuTvnis ruseTi, Tur-

qeTi, saberZneTi, italia, safrangeTi, amerika da sxva qveynebi.

vin arian maTi ZiriTadi macxovreblebi? vis ekuTvnis saqa-

rTvelo, qarTuli miwa? qarTvels Tu viRac ucxoeTidan mo-

suls?.

Zalian mainteresebs, ratom aqvT gadamTielebs Cvenze meti

uflebebi Cvens qveyanaSi, ratom SeuZlia mas akeTos is, rac

moesurveba, Cven ki SezRuduli gvqondes maT gamo yvelafris

ufleba. aseTi mZime SemTxvevaa baTumSi vaJa-fSavelas 28 no-

merSi. Turqma, eron aqsoim Cvens ezoSi iyida Zvirfasi sax-

li, romelic saxelmwifo ZeglTa dacvis saministros nus-

xaSia. (saxli ki ara, sasaxle `ermitaJi,~ Tumca es sasaxle

ekuTvnoda... aslan abaSiZes, Cven ase vicodiT, radgan is fig-

urirebda saxlis gasxvisebaSi.). man wina mxridan moSala

ezosTan damakavSirebeli karebi, waSala warwera, romelic

aRniSnavda saxlis aSenebis TariRs, eg kidev araferi, man sa-

xli gadaakeTa, ezodan moSala saxanZro kibe, romelic eku-

Tvnoda mTlian saxls, Caketa saerTo sargeblobis sasicoc-

xlo mniSvnelobis Sesasvlel-gasasvleli, gadaakeTa ezoSi

Sesasvleli WiSkari ise, rom saxanZro manqanebi ezoSi ver

Semovidnen, maRla sarTulze ver avidnen, radgan kibis moS-

lasTan erTad maRla asavleli karebic gaauqma. aravis ara-

feri hkiTxa, Cven ZiriTadi macxovreblebi ki mis daukuTxa-

vad kuTvnil saxlSi erT lursmansac ver vaWedebT. zemoT

aRniSnul misamarTze vcxovrob 54 welia, e. i. naxevar sau-

kuneze meti. davibade baTumSi 1929 wlis 6 agvistos. vfi-

qrob es sakmao `staJia~, rom ufleba am qalaqSi cxovrebis

ufleba mqondes. Tumca, dRes amas mniSvneloba ara aqvs, ram-

deni welia am qalaqSi da kerZod am misamarTze varsebob.

dRes uflebebi fuliT ganisazRvreba (ra vqnaT `kanonia~

aseTi).

vimeoreb, revaz miSvelaZis sityvebs, rac Cvens mware sin-

amdviles adasturebs: `saqarTvelos dRes gaaCnia katastr-

ofuli demografiuli mdgomareoba~. diax, mimaCnia yvela qv-

eynis adamianma unda icxovros iq, sadac mas surs mxolod

samSoblo unda iyos erTi. Cven, qarTvelebi gulmowyaleni

varT, yvelas vRebulobT keTili guliT, magram Semdeg maTi

umciresoba xdeba ori jayos msgavsi, amis magaliTi Cveni ez-

oa, sadac mTeli samezoblo SeumCnevlad gavxdiT erol fa-

Sas xiznebi da male albaT mis daukuTxavad JangbadiTac ve-

Rar visargeblebT. Cveni ezodan gaasaxla da ojaxebi da maT

fasdaudebel saxlSi groSebi miugdo... axla ki...

jeri Cvenze dadga, darCenili oTxi ojaxi `gavjiutdiT~

da binebis gayidvaze uari vTqviT. ase gavxdiT erol faSas

xiznebi, romelmac ezo mTlianad daisakuTra, metic, cariel

adgilze oTaxic ki gaikeTa, xolo nebarTva visgan aiRo, ar-

aferi viciT. ezoSi Semosul-gasuls misi laqia (mouravi)

akontrolebs. igi yvela wvrilmans saswrafod moaxsenebs

patrons. gvekrZaleba binis SekeTeba Tu ar vkiTxavT mis mo-

uravs. lursmnis miWedebis xma rom gaigonos, gamorbis (18

metriTaa misi samflobelo daSorebuli Cvens saxls) da ki-

Txulobs doinjSemowyobili: - ra xdeba? ra keTdeba? es ka-

cia Temel mouravi. saxlis gayidva xom sastikad akrZalu-

li gvaqvs, `jer Cven unda SegvekiTxoT, gaZlevT Tu ara sa-

xlis sxvaze miyidvis uflebas~ - aseTia Cveni Turqi jayos

kanonebi! mas ki Calis fasad unda Seisyidos Cveni binebi.

Tumca binebis gayidva arc erTs ar gvsurs, magram is iZu-

lebuls gvxdis davtovoT sayvareli ezo-saxli da Sors

gadavikargoT, Tundac jandabaSi...

35 weli vemsaxure xalxs, videqi maTi janmrTelobis sa-

darajoze, Cemi asakis muxedavad dResac xalxis samsaxurSi

var, sikeTes vakeTeb. barbarosebs isic aRizianebT,rom varse-

bob.

Cemi da Cemi qaliSvilis bina daiwva xuTi wlis win, dR-

esac gaurkvevelia vin an ram gaaCina xanZari binaSi, maisSi

Ramis samis naxevarze (yvelaferi SeiZleba ifiqros adamia-

nma). mizezi is aris, rom saxli mexanZreebma ver gadaarCines,

erol faSas axali proeqtis gamo sadac rogorc giTxariT,

aRarc saxanZro kibea da aRarc sxvenSi asasvleli. am gad-

akeTeb-gadmokeTebas emsxverpla ori saxli. mexanZreebma ver

SeZles cecxlis Caqroba.

saxlis dawvis Semdeg gvesaWiroeba misi aRdgena. gvaqvs

meriis sityvieri Tanxmoba, rom Cvens WerSi saxuravs SigniT

SegviZlia davasxaT rkina betoni, magram Cveni `bosi~ amis

uflebas ar gvaZlevs da didi zaralic mogvayena. davrCiT

saxuravis gareSe, SegviCeres muSaoba. ZiriTadad kedels uk-

ana mxridan gavusworeT wina mxare ise rkina-betoni ar da-

isxmeboda, amis sityvieri nebarTva mogvca qalaqis mTavari

arqiteqtoris moadgilem. saxlis ukana kedeli iyo avariu-

li, ZeglTa dacvam gadaiRo gakeTebamde saxlis Weris sur-

aTebi, rac daadasturebs Cems simarTles da imasac, rom sa-

xls esaWiroeboda saswrafod `Svela~, Torem Svidi suli

nangrevebSi movyvebodiT.

amis uflebas ar gvaZlevs Cveni ucxoeli mezobeli, ver

gamigia, raSi uSlis xels mas Cemi saxli, ra ufleba aqvs

Tqvas, ar minda rom aSenebTo. yvelafers kanonis farglebSi

vakeTebdiT. nuTu marto CvenTvisaa kanoni gamoSvebuli mTa-

vrobisagan? mas ratom ar ekiTxebian vin misca neba rac un-

da is akeTos?!

Svidi suli erT oTaxSi vcxovrobT da viZinebT. usaxur-

avo saxlSi vcxovrobT da gvawvims. barbarosebi sad ar re-

kaven, rom yvelaferi movSaloT, gvTxoven mezoblebis nebar-

Tvas, sad gvyavs mezoblebi? isini xom gaasaxles! darCenili

varT xuTi ojaxi, aqedan erTi rusia da isic TurqiviT wi-

naaRmdegia Cveni. darCenili oTxi ojaxidan sami xels vuw-

erT nebarTvaze (ori mowinaaRmdegea, rogorc aRvniSne rusi

da Turqi). roca saxli daiwva, maSinve vaWroba dagviwyes,

mogvyide es adgili Cveno, ra Tqma unda, erol faSa Wkviania,

naxSirad qceul saxls kapikebSi iyidda. Cven SevZeliT `dr-

ankis~ saxlis wina mxare agveSenebina standartuli blok-

ebiT imave zomebSi da simaRleSic aRvadgineT orive saxli

naTesav - megobrebis wyalobiT. saxlis saxuravi meriam ga-

gvikeTa. ZeglTa dacvis sammarTvelos ufrosi ki axlosac

ar gagvkarebia, ar ukiTxavs, ar gamouZiebia vin da ram dawva

saxli, Senebis dros erolis mouravi ise gvaviwroebda da

xels gviSlida, rom ver SevZeliT misgan Tavis dacva da Zv-

eli kedeli gaumagrebeli darCa, rogorc vTqvi, es kedeli

da sxveni gadaRebulia. dReisaTvis kapitalurad gakeTebu-

li, ris dangrevasc moiTxovs erol faSa da misi laqia Te-

meli...

roca Tbilissa da baTums Soris davrbodi, miSveleT Ze-

glis fanjrebs faraven, kedeli dazianda meTqi, araviTari yu-

radReba ar momaqcies, eqvsi weli movandome ZeglTa dacvaSi

samarTlis Zebnas, magram ver vipove.

yofili gorkis 10 nomerSi mcxovrebi qaTamaZem miiRo ni-

koloz ruruas nebarTva (saministrom werilic ki gamoat-

ana, am kacs rom daxmarebodnen), me ki arc mimiRo da metic,

momwera, qaTamaZes nebarTva miRebuli aqvso. dResac vibrZvi,

rogorme gadarCes misi momijnave saerTo kledeli, romel-

ic dafarulia sokoTi, iSleba baTqaSi, Tumca es baton nika

ruruas ar awuxebs, mas marto is awuxebs, Tu ratom vawu-

xebT Cven erol aqsois.

sad arian adamianTa uflebebis damcvelebi, qalaqis mTav-

ari arqiteqtoris moadgile, romelmac mSeneblobis sityvi-

eri nebarTva momca, maSin, roca xelovnurad Seqmnili bari-

erebis gamo arc simaRle emateba da arc sigane (ukana ke-

dels gausworda wina kedeli). xom ar iyo es xafangi Cvens

winaaRmdeg? is arqiteqtoris moadgile dRes megobradqce-

ul Temels gverdiT udgas, exmareba ucxoels, oRond is iy-

os bednieri da qarTvelebis bedi sulac ar anaRvlebs... qa-

rTvelebo, gavixsenoT afxazeTisa da samaCablos magaliTi.

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meri lacabiZe

baTumidan Tbilisisken mimavali SaqriT datvirTuli satvirTo

matarebeli Tbilisidan momaval inertuli masaliT datvirTul

matarebels Seejaxa. Sedegad, sami adamiani daSavda. samive dacvis

policiis TanamSromelia, romlebic SaqriT datvirTul satvir-

To matarebels acilebdnen, maT msubuqi dazianebebi miiRes.

SemTxveva gamTeniisas, natanebis rkinigzis sadgurTan moxda. mw-

yobridanaa gamosuli orive elmavali da ramdenime vagoni. Tvi-

TmxilvelTa mtkicebiT, sarkinigzo avaria erT-erTi memanqanis

mizeziT moxda. zarali milion lars aWarbebs.

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7gazeTi aris saqarTvelosregionuli mediis asociaciis

sruluflebiani wevri

somxeT-saqarTvelos urTierTobebi

samebis eklesia, romlis movla-patronoba zaur futka-

raZis ojaxma iTava, yoveldRiurad Riaa locvis msurve-

lTaTvis. aq salocavad modis aramarto qristiani mrev-

li, aramed iseTebic vinc jer kidev muslimania, magram ro-

gorc qarTvels, didi survili aqvs qristesmier gzas da-

adges, maT ocnebad gaxdomiaT soflisaTvis erTi mRvdeli,

romelic kviraSi erTxel mainc aRavlens wirva-locvas.

walkis raioni aramarto mdidaria mitovebuli, uyuradRe-

bod darCenili eklesia-saydrebiT, aseve mdidaria moqmedi

monastrebiT, sadac ber-monazvnebi gandegil cxovrebas ewe-

vian, samwuxarod mrevlis sulier mdgomareobze aq aravin

zrunavs. mwyemsT Tavisi cxvari aRar axsovT, aseTi ram no-

rmalur qveyanaSi ar xdeba.

samagierod, aqve vxedavT sruliad sawinaaRmdegos. brZ-

enTagan naTqvamia: ,,wminda adgili upatronod ar darCebao."

maT mimarT, vinc qarTuli eklesiis mieraa mitovebuli, yo-

veldRiur yuradRebas iCenen TurqeTidan movlenili xo-

jebi, imamebi. walkis raionul centrSi Seiqmna medrese,

,,yuran kursi,~ sadac mozardebs aintereseben aq Seqmnili

pirobebiT. isini uzrunvelyofilni arian biniT, sakvebiT,

momavalSi swavlis gagrZelebis perspeqtiviT, ra Tqma un-

da TurqeTisaTvis sasargeblo ideologiiT da ara qarT-

uliT. calkeul soflebs aqvs meCeTi, medrese, imami yove-

lTviuri xelfasiT.

aqaurma ramdenime bavSvma, romlebic samebis eklesiis ez-

oSi mosuliyvnen, saubrisas miTxres, rom maT qristianul-

ad undaT monaTvla, magram mSoblebi jer ar SeTanxmebu-

lan. maSin, rodesac mSoblebi sagonebelSi arian, bavSvi

sad gauSvan, medreseSi Tu qristianulad monaTlos, rode-

sac adamiani aseT friad mniSvnelovan sakiTxebze jer ki-

dev yoymanobs, xoja yovelTvis adgilzea da ,,darigebas~

aZlevs, mRvdeli ki arsad Cans.

sofel saydrionis mcxovreblebma didi madlierebiTa da

gulistkiviliT aRniSnes mamuka kapanaZis Sesaxeb, romel-

ic mTeli mondomebiT zrunavda aqaur eklesiebSi RvTims-

axurebis aRsadgenad, rom sofels hyoloda mRvdeli, moZ-

Rvari, magram uSedegod. - `somxeTis patriarqis vizits

Cvens mezobel sofelSi ukve misi wasvlidan ori kviris

Semdeg, umokles droSi pirveli Sedegebic mohyva. am sof-

els moevlina somexi mRvdeli somxur eklesiaSi wirva-

locvis aRsavlenad. Cven ki, Cvenive qveyanaSi aRaravis va-

xsovarT, miuxedavad Cemi mravalgzis Txovnisa. am mxriv

eparqiis winamZRolTagan veraviTari Tanadgoma ver miviR-

eT~ _ aRniSna batonma mamukam. A

am erT-erTi da upirvelesi problemiT dainteresebul-

ma mivmarTe daba walkaSi mdebare RvTismSoblis saxelob-

is mamaTa monastris winamZRols mama daviTs (daviTaSvi-

li).

Ddidad kmayofili davrCi masTan SexvedriT, rogorc Rv-

Tismosav, erovnuli cnobierebis adamianTan. Cems mier dasm-

ul kiTxvaze, Tu ratom arian qarTuli soflebi, eklesiebi,

mrevli sruliad mitovebulni Cveniv eklesiis winamZRol-

Tagan, ratom ar hyavT moZRvari, maSin, roca Cvens qveyanaSi

sxva saxelmwifoebi ar iSureben mosaxleobis sulierebis

dasapatroneblad arafers. mama daviTi gulwrfelad dam-

eTanxma da Tavadac didi gulistkivili gamoTqva, rom es

sakiTxi didi xania awuxebs. maT monasters sxva monastr-

ebis msgavsad araviTari meurneoba, Semosavali ar gaaCnia.

sofelSi mRvdlis samsaxurs ki mciredi Tanadgoma mainc

sWirdeba, trasportis xarji, saarsebo minimumi. Cveni epa-

rqiisagan ki saamiso Tanadgoma ar gagvaCnia, miuxedavad

imisa rom araerTxel dasmula es sakiTxi...

gamomSvidobebisas mama daviTma damloca da dasZina, rom

is am didad mtkivneul, erisaTvis sasicocxlo mniSvnel-

obis sakiTxs kvlav dasvams meufis winaSe.

nebismieri wesieri adamiani dameTanxmeba, rom imaze didi

mkrexeloba, codva da Ralati sakuTari sarwmuneobisadmi,

erisadmi araferia, roca Seni qristiani mrevli, maT Soris

qarTveli muslimanebi, romlebic cxovrebiseuli qartexi-

lis gamo dRes islamis mimdevarni gamxdaran, gTxoven, rom

meufem misces kurTxeva, mouvlinos moZRvari, aziaros qr-

istinobas. da am dros isini sulier winamZRolTagan sr-

ul imedgacruebas grZnoben. walkaSi Cems mogzaurobamde

ar iyo cnobili im meufeTa sia, vinc sinodis sxdomaze xma

misca kanonproeqts qarTuli eklesiis winaaRmdeg, garegin

II _ is sasargeblod. Cems mier warmoebuli kvlevis Sed-

egad, roca walkis meufe anania im oc moRlated gamocx-

adebul meufeTa Soris davinaxe, es srulebiT ar iyo Ce-

mTvis gasakviri, radganac mis moRalateobriv sqmianobaze,

rogorc vnaxeT TviT mis samwysoSi arsebuli mdgomareo-

ba miuTiTebs.

zemoT ganxiluli sakiTxebidan dasaruls minda gavak-

eTo Semdegi daskvna: xelisuflebis mxridan berZnebis mi-

marT gamoCenili gansakuTrebuli loialobis erT-erTi

mTavari mizezTagani arCevnebisas maTi xmebis miRebaa, nebi-

smieri gziT. dRes walkaSi darCenil berZenTa raodenoba

Zalian cotaa, magram xelisufleba imaT xarjze vinc wa-

lkaSia da vinc ukve saberZneTSi imyofeba, arCevnebs ayalb-

ebs Tavis sasargeblod. Ees ki aTeulobiT aTass Seadgens.

swored amitom igebs xelisufleba arCevnebs ZiriTadad

regionebSi, radganac aq sruli ganukiTxaobaa. rogorc Ca-

ns, saqarTvelos xelisuflebas, saberZneTSi myofi an sa-

qarTveloSi gardacvlili berZeni urCevnia cocxal qarT-

vels.Ees sinamdvilea, amitom uSlian xels qarTvelebs ra-

Ta iq ar Caeweron, ar daregistrirdnen saarCevno ubnebze.

rac Seexeba berZeni erovnebis warmomadgenlebTan Cems

damokidebulebas, minda vTqva, rom Tu vinme pativs scems

berZen ers, erT-erTi mec var maT Soris, rogorc filo-

sofTa sazogadoebis warmomadgeneli, romelic didad vaf-

aseb, rogorc Zvel berZen, msoflios ganmanaTlebel ers, ma-

gram es imas ar niSnavs, rom dRes vinmes usamarTlobiTa

da umadurobiT Cemi eris Seuracxyofa moviTminoT.

saqarTvelo yovelTvis iyo mravalerovani qveyana da

arasdros aravin grZnobda Tavs Seviwrovebulad qarTve-

lTagan. aseve unda iyos dRes, sxva eTnikuri umciresobe-

bi araviTar problemebs ar unda grZnobdnen sakuTari Tv-

iTmyofadobis SesanarCuneblad, rac swori nacionaluri

politikis warmarTvis pirobebSi kidev ufro saintereso

da sasargeblo iqneba CvenTvis, qarTuli kulturisaTvis,

ase iyo odiTganve, magram amave dros qarTveli eri ar unda

grZnobdes saSiSroebas erovnuli usafrTxoebis mxriv sa-

qarTveloSi mcxovreb sxva eTnosTagan. am mxriv walkaSi

arsebuli nacionaluri urTierTobebis mdgomareoba, pirda-

pir sagangaSoa da ewinaaRmdegeba saqarTvelos saxelmwi-

foebriv da erovnul usafrTxoebas. walkaSi mcxovrebi be-

rZnebi da somxebi did umadurobas iCenen qarTvelebis mi-

marT. isini rogorc Cans srulebiT aRar uweven angariSs

imas rom saukuneebis win maTi winaprebi, sxva qveynebidan

devnilini swored saqarTvelom Seifara...

samarTlianobisTvis unda iTqvas, rom saqarTveloSi mc-

xovrebi saRad moazrovne somexi erovnebis araerTi warmo-

madgeneli didad Sewuxebulia saqarTvelos mimarT somx-

eTis mxridan usamarTlo damokidebulebis gamo, rac Cv-

ens, xalxebs Soris urTierTobebs aSkarad Zabavs.

walkis mkvidrma, erovnebiT somexma ovik ovanesianma mi-

Txra, rom mis sofelSi garegin II - is vizits is ar da-

eswro, radgan amaSi politikas ufro xedavs, vidre RvTi-

smsaxurebas...

aWaris mamuliSvilTa sagvareulo kavSirSi ZirZvel qa-

rTul gvarTa warmomadgenlebTan erTad imyofeba batoni

uCa meliqseTiani, romelic agreTve Cveni uaxloesi megob-

aria. igi rogorc WeSmariti inteligenti da pedagogi, yve-

las uyvars Tavisi moqalaqeobrivi poziciis gamo. batoni

uCa wlebis manZilze uRalatod gvidgas mxarSi antiero-

vnuli politikis winaaRmdeg gamarTul yvela RonisZieba-

ze. mas aseTi damokidebuleba saqarTvelosa da qarTveli

eris mimarT ojaxidan mosdgams. batoni meliqseTiani amay-

obs Tavisi somxuri gvariT da istoriiT, aseve Rirseulad

emsaxureba saqarTvelos interesebis dacvas, rogorc saq-

arTvelos moqalaqe. swored aseTi somexi erovnebis war-

momadgenlebi qmnian karg warmodgenas somex erze, romlis

msgavsnic, imeds vitoveb somxeTSic mravlad iqnebian, maT-

Tan mezobloba da sasurveli megobroba xom TviT bunebiT

aris ganpirobebuli.

Aaqedan gamomdinare, xazgasmiT minda aRvniSno erTi mn-

iSvnelovani faqti. walkis raionis sofeli aiazma, sadac

garegin II-e Cavida,javaxeTisa da qarTlis regionalur sa-

sazRvro zols warmoadgens, aq mTavrdeba somxebiT kompaq-

turad dasaxlebuli teritoriebi. erT mTlianobaSi ki

esazRvreba somxeTis respublikas. garegin II-is Casvla

walkis am sofelSi sazRvris moniSvnas xom ar hgavs? G

garegin II-em qarTlsa da javaxeTs Soris somxeTis sa-

sargeblod xom ar dasva sazRvari ise, rogorc Turqebi

moiweven Coloqisaken? vfiqrob, es yvelaferi safuZvels

moklebuli ar aris, masSi mtkice logika Cans. amis Tqmis

safuZvels iZleva Cems mier warmodgenili walkis mosax-

leobaSi arsebuli nacionalur urTierTobaTa mZime foni,

qarTvelTa umZimesi mdgomareoba, cxovrebis yoveli mimar-

TulebiT, saero da sasuliero winamZRolTa mizanmmimarT-

uli gulgriloba da antierovnuli politika, romelic

nebsiT Tu uneblieT garegin II-is gegmis nawilia, raTa aq

ar aRorZindes da damkvidrdes qarTuli erovnuli suli.

A amis Tqmis safuZvels iZleva garegin II-is saqarTveloSi

CamosvlasTan erTad saqarTvelosTvis damaqcevari kanonis

miReba, somxuri mxarisagan, somxuri enis regionalur saxe-

lmwifo enad gamocxadebis iniciativa, romelic ukve avt-

onomiis moTxovnisaken mianiSnebs. es yovelive urTierTk-

avSirSia da SemTxveviTi aq araferia.

saqarTvelos xelisuflebis mier berZnebis ase gaTamam-

eba, qarTvelebis mimarT ki ganukiTxaoba, iq mcxovrebi so-

mexi erovnebis warmomadgenelTaTvis wamaqezeblad moqmed-

ebs da uaryofiT fsiqologiur zegavlenas axdens. A ar

aris gamoricxuli, rom sofel saydrionis msgavsad, sadac

erTaderTi mxolod saberZneTis droSa frialebs, xval wa-

lkisa da javaxeTis mezobel somxur soflebSi somxeTis

saxelmwifo droSebi afraldes.

Cven, yoveldRiurad, sapatriarqo teleekranebidan mi-

gviTiTebs sabanko angariSebze da mogviwodebs qvelmoqme-

debisaken, finansuri daxmareba gavuwioT barselonaSi, ing-

lisSi, amerikasa da evropis sxva qveynebSi qarTuli ekle-

siebis mSeneblobebs maSin, roca saqarTveloSi, erisaTvis

sasicocxlo mniSvnelobis zonaSi, saukunovan qarTul ek-

lesiebSi mRvdeli ver midis saarsebo minimumis ar qonis

gamo. sad aris logika, sad aris samarTali. aWaris maRa-

lmTian raionSi, TurqeTis sasazRvro zolTan, sofel ol-

adauris gamonaTlevis wminda giorgis saxelobis eklesi-

as, romelic ukve eqvsi welia gaixsna, mosaxleobis arae-

rTgzis moTxovnis miuxedavad dResac ar hyavs mRvdeli...

Ggaxmaurebuli feriis eklesia aRaravis axsovs, romel-

ic qarTuli erovnuli mentalitetis,rainduli sulis Ta-

ndaTan monuri fsiqologiiT Canacvlebis erT-erTi naTeli

magaliTia. rodesac wlebis win feriis eklesia xelisuf-

lebis miTiTebiT daangries, is Cvenma mosaxleobam xedlda-

xel aago. dRes ki, ukve agebuli eklesia, rogorc Cans sa-

patriarqom Caabara xelisuflebas, sadac Turqi biznesmen-

ebi gasarTob obieqtebs aSeneben, eklesia mis fonze damc-

irebul mdgomareobaSia, cxadia, bolos daangreven. xalxi

ki, imedgacruebuli dums, Tavisuflebis moyvare rainduli

suli TandaTan qreba... es yvelaferi walkis mdgomareoba-

sTan kavSirSia da antierovnuli politikis nawilia.

adre, Cveni winaprebi, wmida mamebi ase loculobdnen: Rm-

erTo mieci saqarTvelos mefes, dedofals Zala rjulis,

zneobis simtkicisaTvis.~ faqtebi metyveleben, rom qarTv-

elebs dRes ise ukiduresad Segveqmna saqme, rom upirvel-

esad sasuliero wimamZRolTa zneobrivi simtkicisaTvis

unda vilocoT, (didi pativiscemiT da siyvaruliT vxri

Tavs im sasuliero pirTa winaSe, vinc xmas imaRlebs arse-

buli usamarTlobisa da uzneobis winaaRmdeg, rac CvenTvis

didi imedis momcemia). Aamas mowmobs, saqarTvelos marT-

lmadidebeli eklesiis mravalricxovan wevrTa saxeliT

saqarTvelos patriarqisadmi miwerili werili, saqarTvel-

os parlamentis mier religiaTa Sesaxeb miRebuli kanon-

is gauqmebis moTxovniT, romelsac sinodis umravlesobam

dauWira mxari (asaval_dasavali, 12_18 seqtemberi. ,,mRvd-

el-msaxurebi iTxoven~). magram rogorc Cans, mxolod lo-

cviT saqme ar keTdeba, eklesiisa da qveynis gadasarCenad

fizikuri garjaa saWiro.Mmoviyvan erT magaliTs. ramdeni-

me wlis win, ruseTis erT-erT guberniaSi orma znedacem-

ulma ,,cisferma~ eklesiaSi ocdaxuTiaTasi dolari gada-

uxada erT mRvdels qrTamis saxiT da jvari daiwera. ro-

desac es mrevlma gaigo, mivardnen eklesiaSi, mRvdelma ga-

qceviT uSvela Tavs, magram xalxma Sebilwuli eklesia da-

angria (xis iyo) da dawva, mis adgilas sxva eklesia aages.

Aam saSineli magaliTidan gamomdinare vfiqrob, rom is

oci gamyidveli qarTveli meufe verafriT sjobia erT me-

qrTame mRvdels da or ,,cisfers~, romelTac erTi ekles-

ia wabilwes, eseni ki mTeli qarTuli eklesiisa da eris

winaaRmdeg kanons uWeren mxars, rac kidev ufro mZime da-

naSaulia,rameTu mrevlis gulwrfeli ndobiT sargebloben

da mxolod sakuTari intersebis sasargeblod, uzneo cx-

ovrebas ewvian. am yvlaferma ki qveyana ukidures mdgoma-

reobaSi Caagdo, sinodis Sekrebaze kritikul momentSi mo-

xda amis lustracia.

absoluturi avtoriteti, vizec SeiZleba sruliad min-

doba aris RmerTi, umaRlesi goni, dedamiwaze ki es SeuZ-

lebelia. eris gulSematkivari moazrovne saero Tu sasu-

liero piri da mrevli mxurvale locvebis garda civi go-

nebiT unda adevnebdes Tvals saero da sasuliero xelm-

ZRvanelobas Tu saiT miaqaneben qveynas. am azrs, ramdenadac

sawyeni ar unda iyos, mowmobs dRevandeli Cveni qveynis um-

Zimesi mdgomareoba.

MsaqarTvelos patriarqi, romlisganac piradad maqvs mi-

Rebuli kurTxeva, miyvars imitom rom misi meTurobiT qa-

rTul eklesiaSi saqarTvelos gadarCenas vxedav, rogorc

qarTvelTa qveynisa. ,,me var mwyemsi keTili, mwyemsman keT-

ilma, Tavi Tvisi dasdvas cxvarTaTvis~, gvamcnobs saRvTo

werili... dRes qarTuli eklesia, Tavad patriarqi, mrevli,

Cven yvela daundobeli gamocdis winaSe vdgavarT...

Cems mier warmodgenil faqtebTan dakavSirebiT SeiZleba

vinme kritikis mizniT ityvis, rom walka sulierebis mx-

riv cnobilia, iq xom araerTi cnobili moqmedi monaster-

ia sadac berebi saqarTvelos gadarCenisaTvis loculoben.

ggaarreeggiinn IIII-ee ssoommxxeeTT - ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss aaxxaall ssaazzRRvvaarrzzee mmiiuuTTiiTTeebbss

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berebi gandegil cxovrebas ewev-

ian, maTi roli didia rogorc

uflis winaSe saqarTelosaTvis

mlocvelTa, magram saqarTvelos

gadasarCenad es arasakmarisia.

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keTildReobac mTlianad mrevl-

is sulier sijansaResa da zneo-

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is, rom walkis, aWarisa da sxva

regionebis monastrebis rolze

xSirad televiziiT xazs usvamen

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xurebis mxriv aq yvelaferi yva-

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ba, razedac ukve visaubreT.

XII saukuneSi daviT mefis dr-

os Tu ara mrevlis zneobrivi si-

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eklesiis SigniT SesamCnevi usam-

arTlobis mimarT gulistkivi-

li, eklesiis siwmnidis moTxov-

na, ruis urbnisis kreba ar Cat-

ardeboda. igive pasuxismgebloba

RvTisa da eris winaSe gvakisria

Cven dRes.

dasasrul, radganac werilis

daweris mizezi garegin II-is sa-

qarTveloSi viziti da saqarTve-

los eklesiis winaaRmdeg kanon-

is miReba gaxda, minda gamovTqva

Cemi Sexeduleba saqarTvelos pa-

rlamentsa da wminda sinodze,

maT msgavsebasa da urTierTkavS-

irze.

,,brZenis cudiTa qceviTa, umal

waxdebis eri,~ - brZanebs daviT

guramiSvili. kerZod, daviwyoT

parlamentiT. mag. parlamentSi

daisva antierovnuli kanonproeq-

ti, umravlesobam mxari dauWira,

umciresobam ara, rogorc yovel-

Tvis, kanoni ZalaSi Sevida. cxo-

vreba ki Cveul reJimSi, qveynis

saboloo dangrevisken gagrZel-

da. sinamdvileSi, rogorc yvela-

saTvis cnobilia, parlamenti Ta-

visi umravlesobiTa da umcires-

obiT antierovnul politikas

atarebs sorosisa da axla ukve

garegin II-is gegmis YTanaxmad,

umaRlesi xelisuflebis miTiTe-

biT. Aaqedan gamomdinare unda

iTqvas, rom is parlamentari vinc

mxari ar dauWira eklesiis win-

aaRmdeg kanonproeqts, arafriT

sjobian imaT, vinc mxari dauWira.

yvelam viciT, rom es dasavleTis

TvalSi demokratiis imijisTvis

aris saWiro. imaT xom yvelam

erTad gayalbebuli arCevnebiT

qveyana ukidures mdgomareobamde

miiyvanes da kvlav erTxmad agr-

Zeleben TavianT moRalateobriv

saqmianobas. maTi aseTi TavSekave-

ba qarTuli eklesiis winaaRmdeg

kanonTan dakavSirebiT TiTqosda

RvTis SiSiT, mxolod briyvTaTv-

is unda iyos dasajerebeli.

Aaqedan, eklesiasTan kavSirSi

minda vTqva, rom roca wminda si-

nodma umravlesobiT mxari dauW-

ira parlamentis gadawyvetileb-

as, religiaTa Sesaxeb kanonis mi-

Rebas, es ar unda niSnavdes, rom

sinodis umciresobam romelic

darwmunebulia aRniSnuli kanon-

is miRebis usamarTlobaSi, saqar-

TvelosTvis momavalSi damangre-

veli SedegebiT, parlmentis msg-

avsad gaagrZelos Cveul reJimSi

cxovreba, wynarad Sehyurebdes

qarTuli eklesiis saboloo wa-

bilwvasa da qveynis ganadgureb-

as. Tu es ase ar aris, maSin sino-

dis umciresobam, romelTanacaa

qarTveli eri unda moiTxovos

moRalateTa da uzneoTa mokveTa

qarTuli eklesiisagan. maT mier

mowonebuli kanonis gauqmeba, ru-

is-urbnisis msgavsi krebis mowv-

eva rac SeiZleba male. mRvdel-

msaxurTa moTxovnas piradad me,

Cems TanamoazreebTan erTad mxa-

rdaWeras vucxadeb!

da Tu es ase ar iqneba, maSin

samwuxarod wminda sinodis sax-

iT, vfiqrob, igive antierovnul

parlamentTan gvaqvs saqme, maT

urTierTkavSirTan, rac saqarTve-

los winaaRmdeg igive SeTqmule-

bad unda Sefasdes, piraduli in-

teresebidan gamomdinare,..

aseT SemTxvevaSi qarTvelma xa-

lxma, rogorc memkvidrem da pas-

uxismgebelma qarTuli eklesii-

sa, unda gawmindos eklesia da

antierovnuli politikis gamta-

rebeli saxelisuflebo organoe-

bi sibilwisagan, Tu Rirseuli

adamianoba da namdvili eroba gv-

surs.

mimaCnia rom, mxolod zneobiT,

mamuliSvilobiT, eklesiisa da

mrevlis, saero da sasuliero

pirTa erTobiT SeiZleba Sevina-

rCunoT Cveni ena, mamuli, sarwmu-

noeba.

niaz bolqvaZe,

aWaris mamuliSvilTa sagvareu-

lo kavSiris saxeliT

kavSiris Tavjdomare.

MM mwerali, filosofosi

(dasasruli)