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#1 maisi 2010 weli `levan WiRlaZis saadvokato biuros~ gamocema (ga) sarCevi alibis dabadebis istoria (2 gv.) t t t ratom ver icavs ufulo moqalaqe sakuTar uflebebs (3 gv.) t t t zaza xatiaSvili `did imperiaSi~ samarTlianobisTvis ibrZvis (4 gv.) t t t ra aris wamebisa da araadamianuri mopyrobis faqtze usasrulod gagrZelebuli gamoZiebis realuri mizezebi da ratom dgas fsiqikurad daavadebuli patimrebis problema sasjelaRsrulebiT dawesebulebebSi (6 gv.) t t t „SerCeviTi samarTali“ Tu samarTlianoba? (7gv.) t t t `ioli fuli~ anu erTi Cveulebrivi davis istoria (8 gv.) t t t realuri da virtualuri samyaros sinTezi arasrulwlovanTa danaSaulis prevenciis mZlavr iaraRad SeiZleba iqces (11 gv.) t t t ratom gvirTuleben cxovrebas notariusebi? (13 gv.) t t t Cambridge House”-is warmatebis saidumlo iaraRi (14 gv.) maisSi Sewyaleba ar iqneba?! elene TevdoraZe: `Cven arc gamomZieblebi varT, arc prokurorebi, Cven varT komisiis Cveulebrivi wevrebi, adamianebi, romlebic adamianurad, magram frTxilad, vudgebiT Sewyalebis masalebis Seswavlas.~ binis miTvisebis ideiT Sepyrobil ZmiSvils mamidis Semdgom bedze arc ki ufiqria martoxela, yvelasgan mitovebuli moxucebuli axalgazrda ojaxs sakuTari binis sanacvlod masze mzrunvelobas sTxovs. moxucebulis gardacvalebis Semdeg ki `Cuqebis~ xelSekrulebis an anderZis safuZvelze `mzrunveli~ ojaxisTvis madlierebis niSnad datovebuli bina `axalgamomcxvari~ naTe- savebis mxridan davis sagani xdeba... gamodis TveSi erTxel t t t vrceldeba ufasod

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alibi#1 maisi 2010 weli

`levan WiRlaZis saadvokato biuros~ gamocema

(ga) s a r C e v i

alibis dabadebis istoria (2 gv.)

t t t

ratom ver icavs ufulo moqalaqesakuTar uflebebs (3 gv.)

t t t

zaza xatiaSvili `did imperiaSi~samarTlianobisTvisibrZvis (4 gv.)

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ra aris wamebisa da araadamianurimopyrobis faqtze usasrulodgagrZelebuli gamoZiebis realurimizezebi da ratom dgas fsiqikuraddaavadebuli patimrebis problemasasjelaRsrulebiTdawesebulebebSi (6 gv.)

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„SerCeviTi samarTali“Tu samarTlianoba? (7gv.)

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`ioli fuli~ anu erTiCveulebrivi davisistoria (8 gv.)

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realuri da virtualuri samyaros sinTezi arasrulwlovanTadanaSaulis prevenciis mZlavr iaraRad SeiZleba iqces (11 gv.)

t t t

ratom gvirTuleben cxovrebasnotariusebi? (13 gv.)

t t t

„Cambridge House”-is warmatebissaidumlo iaraRi (14 gv.)

maisSi

Sewyaleba

ar

iqneb a ? !

elene TevdoraZe: `Cven arc

gamomZieblebi varT, arc

prokurorebi, Cven varT komisiis

Cveulebrivi wevrebi, adamianebi,

romlebic adamianurad, magram

frTxilad, vudgebiT Sewyalebis

masalebis Seswavlas.~

binis miTvisebis ideiT SepyrobilZmiSvils mamidis Semdgom

bedze arc ki ufiqria

martoxela, yvelasgan mitovebuli moxucebuli axalgazrda ojaxs sakuTari binis sanacvlod masze mzrunvelobas sTxovs. moxucebulis gardacvalebis Semdeg ki `Cuqebis~ xelSekrulebis an anderZis safuZvelze `mzrunveli~ ojaxisTvis madlierebis niSnad datovebuli bina `axalgamomcxvari~ naTe-savebis mxridan davis sagani xdeba...

gamodis TveSi erTxel t t t vrceldeba ufasod

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levan WiRlaZe: „sa-samarTlo procesebze monawileobis dros xSi-rad mifiqria, rom gan-saxilveli Tema Zalian kargi sagazeTo publi-kacia iqneboda. im wuTas Cemi `Sinagani me“ Jurna-listikaSi gadaerTvebo-da. mowmisgan, prokuro-risgan, braldebulisgan wamosuli yoveli fraza kargi sagazeTo statiis, reportaJis da a.S. ideas mawvdida.

levan WiRlaZem jer Jurnalis­tikis, Semdeg ki meoradi iuridiu­li fakulteti daamTavra. pirveli profesiis dauflebisas sxva saq­mianobaze ar ufiqria. wera uyvar­da da sakuTar Tavs da samoqmedo asparezs mxolod JurnalistikaSi xedavda. misi saqmianoba sxvadasxva periodul gamocemebSi („droni“, „dilis gazeTi“, „rezonansi“ da a.S.), ZiriTadad, samarTlebrivi sf­eroTi Semoifar­gleboda. garkveu­li drois Semdeg mixvda, rom Jur­nalistika misTvis ufro sulieri moTxovnilebebis dakmayofilebis saSualeba SeiZle­boda yofiliyo, vidre saarsebod aucilebeli mate­rialuri mxaris uzrunvelyofis erTaderTi wyaro. sulieri sazrdoTi ojaxs rom ver Seinaxavda, es cxadze cxadi iyo, ami­tom gadawyvita bedi misTvis arc Tu ise ucxo da aranakleb saintereso sferoSi, iurisprudenciaSi ecada.

2008 wels advokatTa asociaciis wevri gaxda, sakuTari iuridiuli biuroc gaxsna da axal saqmianobas didi enTuziazmiT Seudga. starti sakmaod warmatebiT aiRo da mudmivi „klienturis“ mozidvac moaxerxa.

levan WiRlaZe (advokati): ra-mdenime dRis win prokuraturam ci-xeSi Sesvla mTxova. miuxedavad imisa, rom arasamuSao dRe iyo, amocnobis gadaudebeli saWiroeba Seiqmna. eWvi hqondaT, rom konkretul saqmeSi mo-nawile, aRwerilobis mixedviT, Cemi dacvis qveS myofi SeiZleboda yofi-liyo. saSineli amindi iyo. Tanxmobas velodebi, rom cixeSi Sesvla mome-xerxebina. am dros moxucebuli qal-

batoni movida, meuRlesTan erTad. Svili hyolia daWerili da vinmes eZebda, vinc misTvis cixidan Svilis ambis gamotanas moaxerxebda. vuTxa-ri, _ qalbatono, dRes kviraa, or-SabaTs mobrZandiT-meTqi, magram... _ ver „gavatan“ orSabaTamdeo, _ da mi-zezi amixsna: sizmari vnaxe, Svili Sve-las mTxovdao, unda davrwmunde, rom araferi uWris, Torem movkvdebio.

Zalian Sev wuxdi. raRa Tqma unda, Svilis ambavi ga-movutane. qalba-toni gaxarebuli, damSvidebuli da-brunda Sin. maSin vifiqre, ra cota SeiZleba eyos ada-mians nugeSi sTvis, xandaxan ubralo adamianuri Ta-nadgomac Zalian bevrs SeiZleba niSnavdes-meTqi. uceb am, SeiZleba vinmesTvis umniS-

vnelo, magram konkretuli piris-Tvis Zalian mniSvnelovan niuansze statiis daweris survili gamiCnda. Cems praqtikaSi yovelTvis xdeba ambebi, romelzec SeiZleba Zalian kargi sagazeTo publikacia gakeT-des. xSirad vawydebi winaaRmdegobas, usamarTlobas, garkveul darRve-vebs, vecnobi saintereso masalebs, mniSvnelovan detalebs. bevri adamia-nia, romelsac sul mcire niuansic ki seriozulad urTulebs cxovrebas. yvelas aqvs saTqmeli, bevrs sWirdeba konsultacia, zogs drois proble-ma aqvs, zogic, iuristamde misvlas garkveuli mizezebiT ver axerxebs. erTi sityviT, gazeTis dafuZnebisken bevrma faqtorma mibiZga.

gazeTis saxelwodeba

levan WiRlaZe: ratom alibi? „alibi“ ucxo sityvaTa leqsikon-

Si asea ganmartebuli: „braldebulis udanaSaulobis dasabuTeba; emyareba

mtkicebas, rom braldebuli ver miiRebda monawileobas borot-moqmedebaSi, vinaidan misi Cade-nis momentSi igi sxvagan imyofe-boda“.

alibi erT-erTi umniSvne-lovanesi instrumentia, rom-liTac saqmis mogebaa SesaZ-lebeli. advokatebs xSirad akritikeben, _ procesi ver moigeo. procesis mogeba klien-tis saqmis myar poziciazea da-mokidebuli, romlis Zalian mniSvnelovan iaraRs, rogorc

ukve aRvniSneT, swored rom „alibi“ warmoadgnes. am instrumentis saSu-alebiT sakuTari simarTlis damtki-ceba da adamianisken mimarTuli ne-bismieri arasamarTliani braldebis uaryofaa SesaZlebeli. vinaidan Cveni gazeTi samarTlis sferos moicavs, saxelwodebac Sesabamisi aqvs. aRar gavimeoreb, ramdenad mniSvnelovania Cvens sferoSi am sityvis mniSvneloba, Tumca davakonkreteb da vityvi, rom Cveni gazeTis furclebi xSirad daeT-moba im konkretul samoqalaqo saqme-ebs, situaciebs, romlebSic ubralo moqalaqeebi TaRliTobis mxverplni xdebian da usamarTlo braldebis sa-fuZvelze, seriozuli problemebis winaSe dgebian. gazeTis furclebze swored am adamianebis udanaSaulobis dasabuTebas SevecdebiT.

gazeTis Tematika

levan WiRlaZe: ZiriTadad, samo-qalaqo samarTlis kuTxiT vimuSave-bT. es ar niSnavs, rom sxva Temebs ar ganvixilavT, Tumca prioritetuli mainc samoqalaqo davebi, penitencia-luri sistema da sxva, sazogadoebis-Tvis mniSvnelovani Tematika darCeba. gazeTis furclebze ganvixilavT, Tu rogor xdeba konkretuli adamiani TaRliTobis msxverpli, Tu rogor uWirT Cvens patimrebs, ra probleme-bi aqvT, ramdenad Seesabameba kanoni patimrobis Sesaxeb maT mdgomareobas da a.S. magaliTad, arseboben patimre-bi (piradad Cveni dacvis qveS myofTa Soris), romlebic seriozul fsiqi-kur problemebs ganicdian. isini gan-sakuTrebul mopyrobas saWiroeben. jer-jerobiT, maTive interesebidan gamomdinare, konkretuli pirebis vinaobis gamxelisgan Tavs Sevikaveb, magram gvaqvs seriozuli saqmeebi, romelzec aucileblad vismjele-bT. gazeTSi ganxilul problemebs, calkeul SemTxvevebs, mkiTxvelis­Tvis saintereso situaciebs pro­

10 maiss qarTuli perioduli gamocemebis ricxvs kidev erTi gazeTi `alibi~ Seemata.

gazeTis Seqmnis idea

simarTlis ZiebaSi wamoWrilma da dagro-vilma uamravma pasuxgaucemelma kiTxvam gaze-Tis damfuZnebeli levan WiRlaZe Jurnalis-tikidan iurisprudenciaSi gadaiyvana da Semdeg paralur reJimSi muSaobisTvis ganawyo.

„alibis“ dabadebis istoria

levan WiRlaZe: mowmisgan, prokurorisgan, braldebulisgan wamosuli

yoveli fraza kargi sagazeTo publikaciis ideas mawvdida

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fesionali iuristebi Seafaseben, Tumca yvela publikacia ubralo eniT daiwereba. es ar aris iu­ristebisTvis Seqmnili gazeTi. CvenTvis isedac uamravi saxel­mZRvanelo da informaciis wyaro arsebobs. gazeTi orientirebulia ubralo mosaxleobaze, romelic, garkveul SemTxvevebSi, swored arainformirebulobis wyalobiT xdeba TaRliTobis msxverpli. am gamocemis wyalobiT, TiToeuli adamiani, saqarTvelos nebismieri moqalaqe saWiro informacias ufa-sod miiRebs. rodesac saqme exeba ga-rigebebs, saxelmwifo da iuridiul sturqturebTan garkveul urTier-TobebSi Sesvlas, mosaxleobas unda hqondes swori informacia, swori xed-va, rom ar Cavardnes ukidures mdgo-mareobaSi. zogi gauTvaliswinebeli poziciiT kargavs sacxovrebel ad-gilebs, gansakuTrebiT es exeba ipo-Tekur davebs, rodesac adamiani gaua-zreblad, Suamaval mxares mindobili, pirdapir midis notariusTan da ar kiTxulobs, ra weria xelSekrulebaSi. ndobis borotad gamoyenebis gamo ki is TaRliTobis msxverpli xdeba.

gazeTSi erT-erTi rubrika iq-neba kiTxvebi iuristTan, romelic

amomwuravad imsjelebs im samoqala-qo davebze, romelic ase ainterese-bs mosaxleobas. aseve visaubrebT im axal novaciebze, romelic periodu-lad qarTul samarTals Seavsebs.

iqneba Tu ara daculirespodentis uflebebi

levan WiRlaZe: Cveni gazeTis furclebze absoluturad zustad daiwereba yvelaferi, ris Tqmasac moindomebs respodenti. mediis re-gulaciis kuTxiT kanoni iTvaliswi-nebs, rom yvelas sityva, azri unda iyos SenarCunebuli. bunebrivia, Cemi gazeTis furclebze es mniSvnelo-vani niuansi daculi iqneba. aqve da­vamateb, rom SeiZleba, Cemi azri ar modiodes srul TanxvedraSi

respodentis mier gamoTqmul mosazrebasTan an saerTodac ar emTxveodes mas, magram amis gamo mis sityvebs ar davamaxinjebT. ki­dev erTxel vambob, gazeTisTvis TiToeuli adamianis pozicia iqne­ba mniSvnelovani, miuxedavad imi­sa, veTanxmebi Tu ara mas.

rogor miiRebs xalxi gazeTs?

gazeTi iqneba ufaso. gamova yo-veli Tvis 10 ricxvSi. TiTqmis yvela msxvil organizacias da mosaxleo-bis garkveul nawils gadaecema saCu-

qrad. nebismier dainteresebul pirs SeeZleba mogvmarTos da moiTxovos gazeTi uSualod iuridiuli biurosa da redaqciisgan. gazeTi saSualebas miscems yvela msurvels, gamoTqvas sakuTari mosazreba, dasvas nebis-mieri kiTxva, isaubros sakuTar pro-blemebze, miiRos ufaso iuridiuli konsultacia. TanamSromlobisken mo-vuwodeb yvelas, visac garkveuli sa-Tqmeli daugrovda, iqneba es ubralo moqalaqe Tu Tanamdebobis piri, ad-vokati Tu sxva profesiis warmomad-geneli. Cveni iuridiuli biuros xuTi wevri maqsimalurad Seecdeba yvela moqalaqis interesis gaTvaliswinebas da maTTvis saintereso yvela Temaze amomwuravi pasuxis gacemas.

situacia: saqarTvelos moqala­qem, mariam tatiSvilma, ipoTekuri daviT sasamarTlos mimarTa, Tumca saxelmwifo baJis gadaxda da Sesabam­isad, saqmis bolomde miyvana ver Se­Zlo. Sedegad, qoneba dakarga. dRes is seriozuli problemis winaSe dgas. arc TavSesafari aqvs da arc saarsebo wyaro.

im ubralo moqalaqeebisTvis, rom-elTac sasamarTlosTan Sexeba jer ar hqoniaT, ganvmartavT, rom „saxelmwifo baJi aris saqarTvelos biujetSi Sena-tani, romelsac ixdian fizikuri da iu-ridiuli pirebi saxelmwifos mier maTi interesebis Sesabamisi iuridiuli moq-medebebis SesrulebisaTvis da saTanado sabuTebis gacemisaTvis.“

bunebrivia, kanoni konkretul situaciebSi garkveul SeRavaTebsac iTvaliswinebs, Tumca ubralo moqa-laqeebs, xSir SemTxvevebSi, sasamarT-losTan urTierTobisas saxelmwifo baJis arseboba seriozul problemebs uqmnis. amis magaliTad zemoxsenebuli moqalaqis, mariam tatiSvilis istoriac kmara.

levan WiRlaZe (advokati): yvelaze xSiria ipoTekuri davebis magaliTebi. dazaralebuli moqalaqe ver axerxebs sakuTari uflebebis dacvas, vinaidan sasamarTlo sadavo sagnis Rirebulebis 3% -is gadaxdas iTxovs. amboben, es Tanxa procentulad Zalian mcireao, Tumca es ase ar aris. pirvel instanciaSi baJi 3 %-ia, Semdeg instanciebSi ki gadasaxa-di 4%-mde, Semdeg ki 5% - mde izrdeba.

warmoidgineT, rom moqalaqis qoneba 30 000 dolaradaa Sefasebuli. am dros moqalaqes pirvel da meore instanciaSi sasamarTlo procesis mogebis aranairi garantia ar aqvs. saqme unda ganixilos mesame instanciis sasamarTlom. moqa-laqe axla ukve 5 %-s ixdis. imasac an moigebs, an - ara. xom warmogidgeniaT, ra Tanxa Sedis saxelmwifo biujetSi? moqalaqe advokatis momsaxurebis Ri-rebulebasac ixdis. mas kidev uwevs garkveuli raodenobis Tanxis gadaxda. am dros gasaTvaliswinebelia social-uri fonic. Zalian kargad viciT, ra xdeba dRes sazogadoebaSi, ra raode-nobis xalxia socialurad daucveli da siRaribis zRvars miRma myofi da ram-deni problemaa am kategoriis ojaxebSi. bunebrivia, aseTi xalxi saxelmwifo ba-Jisgan unda gaTavisufldes.

nino nergaZe (advokati): kanonSi, samoqalaqo saproceso kodeqsis 48-e muxlSi miTiTebulia, rom SesaZlebelia sasamarTlom Seamciros saxelmwifo ba-Jis Rirebuleba da moxdes misi gadaxdis gadavadeba. Tumca, xSir SemTxvevaSi, es ase ar xdeba. sasamarTlo iseT ab-surdul pirobebs da mtkicebulebebs iTxovs, romlis wardgenac gaWirvebuli fenisTvis SeuZlebelia.

maia xaWapuriZe (advokati): mTa-vari problema is aris, rom sasamarTlo ki eubneba, baJs Segimcireb, an gada-givadebo, magram es xdeba ZiriTadad mas Semdeg, roca mxareebi procesze an morigdebian, an uars ityvian sarCelze, magram sasamarTlom sarCeli warmoe-

baSi rom miiRos, aucilebeli pirobaa, unda iqnas gadaxdili baJi. amis Semdeg momCivans an ubrundeba qoneba, an _ ara... nebismier situaciaSi, Tanxis ar-qonis SemTxvevaSi, is aris ususuri, ibrZolos sakuTari uflebebis dasaca-vad sasamarTloSi.

nino nergaZe (advokati): msgavs saqmeze muSaobis procesSi advokatebi Zalian did sirTuleebs vawydebiT. ama-Si, sakuTari praqtikidan gamomdinare, saqarTveloSi moqmedi iuristebi da advokatebic dameTanxmebian. prokura-tura uars ambobs erT-erTi mxarisTvis sisxlis samarTlis pasuxismgeblobis dakisrebaze (vgulisxmob, TaRliTobas, radgan xSir SeTxvevaSi, ubralo moqa-laqeebi ipoTekuri davis momCivan mxared swored ndobis borotad gamoyenebis gamo aRmoCndebian) da ubralo moqalaqes eubneba, _ wadi, saqalaqo sasamarTlos mimarTeo. saqalaqo sasamarTloSi ki mas saxelmwifo baJis problema eqmneba, rom-lis gadaxdac misTvis arc ise iolia, xan-daxan ki SeuZlebelic. es aris garkveuli wredi, romelic isedac dazaralebul mosaxleobas kidev met problemebs uqm-nis. amitom Cven, advokatebi, sasamarT­lo kanonmdeblebs rekomendaciiT mivmarTavT: gaiTvaliswinon ubralo moqalaqeebis interesebi da gadaxedon maTTvis saxelmwifo baJis dakisrebis sakiTxs. Tu moqalaqe aris dazarale­buli, aqvs seriozuli problema, mas unda SeeZlos, mimarTos sasamarTlos da garkveuli pirobebiT gaTavisufle­buli iqnas saxelmwifo baJisgan.

ratom ver icavs ufulo moqalaqe sakuTar uflebebssaxelmwifo baJiT Seqmnili problemebi

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sxva qveynebis ra moga­xsenoT, magram Cvens qveya­naSi, darwmunebuli var, prezidents da samTavrobo uwyebebs namdvilad axso­vT, ers rom marTaven, isic ician, saukuno mmarTveloba rom ar arsebobs da rogorc Cans, samomavlo keTildRe­obisTvis gar kveul zomeb­sac iReben. xelmwifesa da prezidents Soris azrobriv da uflebriv sxvaobasac aTviTcnobiereben, magram kanonsa da samarTals yvela sakuTari interpretaciiT iyenebs. xalxSi amboben, „sa­marTalma puris Wamas mou­kloo“.

adamianebis uflebe-bis damcvelebis uflebebis xSiri darRveva araerTxel gamxdara mwvave diskusiis sagani. qarTuli samarTlis usamarTlobam garkveuli pi-rebi Tu jgufebi araerTxel gamoiyvana quCaSi. gaxSirda advokatebis usamarTlod dakavebis faqtebi, Tumca sa-marTliani Tu usamarTlo enebi, xSir SemTxvevaSi, ad-vokatTa braleulebazec ar-gumentirebulad miuTiTe-ben...

adokatTa ukanano dakave-bis faqtebi ramdenjerme iu-ristTa asociaciis axalma Tavmjdo-marem zaza xatiaSvilmac gamoamzeura.

zaza xatiaSvili: advokatTa kor-pusi SeSfoTebulia advokatTa daWe-ris da gasamarTlebis faqtebis zrdis gamo. saakaSvili da misi garemocva, romlebic jer kidev ver gamovidnen revoluciuri eiforiidan, dacvis institutis upirobo xelyofas axor-cieleben. TiTqos es wamaxalisebel garemoebad iqca, _ rac met advokats daiWers prokurori, miT metia misi karieruli zrdis perspeqtiva. es an-tidemokratiuli reJimisTvisaa dama-xasiaTebeli.

zaza xatiaSvili advokatTa aso­ciacias ukve 4 Tvea xelmZRvanelobs. bunebiT romantikosi, mosiyvarule meuRle da mama RvTismosavi piro­

vnebaa. axal Tanamdebobaze moRva­weoba kabinetsa da sakonferencio darbazSi samlocvelo kuTxeebis mowyobiT daiwyo. kontraqtebis amowurvis miuxedavad, TanamSro­melTa „gadaxalisebis gegmaze“ ar ufiqria, ambobs, ­ arasworia ten­dencia, Tanamdebobis piri saqmia­nobas TanamSromelTa gaTavisufle­biT rom iwyebso.

Tbili, romantikuli da mo­siyvarule mxolod meuRlesTan da SvilebTanaa. samsaxurSic mego­brul, xan oficialur urTierTobe­bs inarCunebs, saqmes ki sul sxvagva­rad udgeba: mkacri, momTxovni da kategoriulia. keTilsindisiereba da samarTlianoba misi Tanmdevi Tvisebebia. swored maTi da advokat­Ta erTobis wyalobiT gegmavs yvela

problemis gadaWras.zaza xatiaSvili: aso-

ciaSi uamravi vali dagvxvda. faqtobrivad, ar arsebobda sia, romelSic asaxuli iqne-boda asociaciis wevri ad-vokatebis saqmianobis adgi-li. es iseTive problema iyo asociaciisTvis, rogorc saxelmwifosTvis saarCevno siebis dadgena. ar arsebo-bda kompiuteruli progra-ma, romelic daadgenda, vis ramdeni hqonda gadaxdili sawevros saxiT, ra Tanxa iyo Semosuli da risi imedi unda gvqonoda samomavlod. es problema movagvareT.

mcire dro gvqonda imis-Tvis, rom Segveqmna komisia, romelic ramdenime mimarTu-lebiT imuSavebda. TiToeul mimarTulebas saTaveSi aR-masrulebeli sabWos konkre-tuli wevri Caudga. yovel-ma maTganma advokaturis ganviTarebis xelSewyobis valdebuleba sakuTar Tavze aiRo. advokatebs winadade-bebis warmodgenis saSualeba miecaT. korporporatiuli imeilebiT gamogzavnili yve-la werili saguldagulod ganixileba. minda, yvela ad-vokati maqsimalurad Caer-Tos asociaciis ganviTare-

bis procesSi. asociaciis Tavmjdomared arCe-

visTanave ukanonod dapatimrebul advokatTa saqmeebis moZieba daviwye. SevqmeniT mimarTuleba, romelic am advokatTa mdgomareobas da maT Se-mdgom beds ganixilavs.

Zalian mawuxebs advokatebTan mopyrobis kulturis arqona samTa-vrobo uwyebebis warmomadgenelTa mxridan. meuxerxuleba amis Tqma, magram... rodesac advokatebi, miTu-metes, gasaTxovari gogonebi Sedian sadamsjelo dawesebulebebSi, saba-biT, rame xom ar Seaqvs Tavisi dacvis qveS myofi pirisTviso, mkerds usin-javen, uxerxul adgilebze „xelebs ufaTureben“. zogierTi gogona morw-

zaza xatiaSvili `did imperiaSi~ didisamarTlianobisTvis ibrZvis

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`sami ram yovelTvis unda axsovdes xelmwifes: erTi, rom igi mmarTvelia erisa,

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munea da am process sakmaod mZimed aRiqvams. yvela normalur qveyanaSi, normalur sapyrobileSi arsebo-bs eleqtro mowyobiloba, romelic zedmeti „xelebis faTuris“ gareSe axdens adamianis skanirebas. Sesaba-misad, msgavsi uxerxuli momentebis Tavidan acileba proble-ma aRar xdeba. Tu aseTi mowyobiloba ar gaqvs, e.i. arSemdgari saxelmwifo xar. Tumca, vfiqrob, rea-lurad es problema Cven-Tan ar dgas. wesiT, mowyo-bilobebis simcires ar unda uCiodnen, magram es advokatTa korpusis da-cinvis saSualebaa da vfi-qrob, Cveni xelisufleba amas xelidan ar gauSvebs.

saerTod, Zalian be-vri ramaa Sesacvleli. kidev erTxel unda gamo-vacxado mimarTvas, rom Seiqmnas advokatTa jgu-fi, romelic ifiqrebs ad-vokatTa Sesaxeb kanonSi cvlilebis Setanaze. „ka-pikad“ ar varga sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsi, ro-melsac saerTaSoriso organizacie-bma wiTeli droSebi aufiales. me Se-vxvdi saerTaSoriso organizaciebs da avuxseni, rom maT, realurad, sxva saproceso kodeqsi naxes. mere es ko-deqsi lamazad daiWra da sul sxva saxiT iqna miRebuli. minda Sevqmna jgudi, romelic gamoikvlevs, Tu ra uqnes im sisxlis samarTlis saproce-so kodeqss, romelic saerTaSoriso organizaciebma moi smines.

cudi mdgomareobaa adamianis uflebebis dacvis kuTxiT. is ad-vokatebi, romlebic icaven adamianTa uflebebs, TviTon xdebian politiku-ri represiebis msxverplni. amis maga-liTad koba soxaZis SemTxvevis gaxs-nebac kmara: koba quTaisSi adamianis cemis faqts Seeswro. telefoniT iRe-bda. rogorc mosalodneli iyo, tele-fonic waarTves da kargadac scemes. Cvenma `leninisordenosanma~ sasamar-Tlom ki 30 dRiani patimroba miusaja. aseTi sasamarTloTi TviT leninic ki iamayebda. xSirad vekiTxebi kolegebs, romlebic komunistur reJimSic emsa-xurebodnen xalxs maSindeli mdgoma-reobis Sesaxeb, meubnebian, _ msgavsi tipis sasamarTlo maSinac ki ar iyo, arasamarTliani gadawyvetilebis Se-mTxvevaSi, moskovSi vasaCivrebdiT da simarTlis dacvas am gziT mainc vaxerxebdiTo. erTaderTi problema politikuri damnaSave iyo, maT dasa-cavad marTla verafers gaawyobdio...

xelisuflebas rom hkiTxo, dRes sasamarTlos mimarT ndoba sazoga-doebaSi sakmaod didia. realoba ki, yvelam kargad icis, rom sul sxvaa...

Cemi iniciativiT da TxovniT erT-

erT advokatze, mari melaSvilze, ro-melsac axlaxan Seusrulda 24 weli, filmis gadaReba mTavrdeba. minda sa-zogadoebas warvudgino faqtebi, Tu ra usircxvilo garemoebaSi Caigdo Tavi gaerom, rodesac e.w. „SekveTili“ daskvna dado, TiTqos mosaxleobis 66% endoba sasamarTlos.

minda, sasamarTlos damoukide-

blobis xarisxTan mimarTebaSi Ria gamokiTxva advokatTa korpusSic Cavataro, im gamokiTxvisgan gansxva-vebuli, romelSic monawileoba mo-samarTleebis dedebma, biZebma, Zme-bma, debma da sxva naTesavebma miiRes. minda advokatTa asociacia CaerTos iseTi kanonmdeblobis SemuSavebis procesSi, romelic, saboloo jamSi, uzrunvelyofs damoukidebeli, sa-marTliani sasamarTlos Camoyali-bebas. sasamarTlosi, romelic xal-xis quCidan sasamarTlo darbazSi gadayvanas uzrunvelyofs. Tu ada-mians ecodineba, rom mosamarTles samarTliani gadawyvetilebis miReba SeuZlia, is quCaSi aRar dadgeba da yvela problemas sasamarTlos gziT moagvarebs. faqtobrivad, xalxi qu-CaSi gamoiyvana arasamarTlianma sa-samarTlom, romelic am reJimis Zi-riTadi dasayrdenia. rogorc Cans, es reJimi ver Seeleva am sasamarTlos. yvelaze didi ubedureba ki isaa, rom saqarTveloSi wodebrivi, warmomad-genlobiTi marTlmsajuleba bato-nobs. SeiZleba iTqvas, Tanamdebobis pirebs yvelafris ufleba aqvT.

cudi mdgomareobaa mediis Tval-sazrisiTac. vera da ver mogvarda sa-zogadoebrivi mauwyeblis problema. ramdenjerme gavmarTeT preskonfe-rencia saWirboroto Temebze, magram sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli ar mosu-la. rusTavi da imedi kerZo kompaniaa da amis ufleba aqvT, magram sazoga-doebrivi mauwyebeli pirdapirval-debulia yvela Cvenganis samsaxurSi idges, radgan swored rom yvela Cven-ganis jibidan finansdeba.

­ sakmaod vrclad isaubreT

advokatTa uflebebis dacvaze, Tu­mca arsebobs SemTxvevebi, rodesac advokati sakuTari dacvis qveS myo­fi piris uflebas arRvevs, sxvagva­rad rom vTqvaT, atyuebs. Tu keTde­ba rame asociaciis mxridan msgavsi faqtebis aRmosafxvrelad?

- ra Tqma un da, msgavsi faqtebi arsebobs. asociaciaSi 4000 advoka-

tia. SesaZloa, ramde-nime maTgani marTlac mzadaa, yvela pirobaze gaurigdes prokurors saproceso SeTanxmebis misaRwevad. Tu vinme rai-me msgavsi faqtis Sesaxeb Seityobs, unda Semoita-nos disciplinaruli sa-Civari. saCivris Semotana nebismier moqalaqes Seu-Zlia. xolo eTikis ko-misia, romelsac Zlieri Tavmjdomare hyavs, arc erT faqts ar datovebs reagirebis gareSe. Tu advokati klients atyue-bs, aWerinebs dacvis qveS myofs, is, bunebrivia, ad-vokati ar unda iyos. me davicav mxolod mas, vinc klients icavs da proku-

rorTan garigebaze ambobs uars. ­ Tu sworad maxsovs, advoka­

tebs hqondaT moTxovna sawevro gadasaxadis SemcirebasTan dakav­SirebiT, amasTan, axalbeda advoka­tebi am gadasaxadisgan erTi wliT mainc unda gaTavisuflebuliyvnen. ramdenadac vici, es Txovna ar gai­TvaliswineT, riTac advokatTa ga­rkveuli nawili ganawyenebuli dar­Ca.

- rogorc ukve aRvniSne, aso-ciacias Zalian didi valebi daxvda. sawevro gadasaxadi weliwadSi 200 lars Seadgens, vfiqrob, es arc ise didi Tanxaa moqmedi advokatisTvis. uamravi treningis organizebas vapi-rebT, Tundac saerTaSoriso samar-Tlis TvalsazrisiT. advokatma unda icodes, rom bevri ramis gakeTebas SeZlebs swori moqmedebis SemTxve-vaSi. mogvwons Tu ar mogvwons, Cven saTaveSi imperatori gvidgas. Turme SesaZlebeli yofila Cvens saukune-Si SeniRbuli demokratiis qveyanaSi imperiis Seqmna. am pirobebSi sasamar-TloSi ramis miRweva SeuZlebelia. amitom aucilebelia, yvelam icodes, risi saSualeba SeiZleba hqondes ad-vokats brZolis gasagrZeleblad. me xom vaRwevdi raRacas? amas SeZlebs sxvac... bunebrivia, yvelafers, iqne-ba es treningebi Tu nebismieri sxva RonisZieba, sakmaod soliduri Tanxa sWirdeba. sawevro gadasaxadis ga-reSe, am Tanxis moZieba SeuZlebeli iqneba. aqedan gamomdinare, vkiTxav advokatebs, ra sjobs asociaciisTvis da gadawyvetilebasac ise miviReb ... momxre var sawevro gadasaxadis di-

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ferencirebis advokatTa Semosavlis mixedviT...

­ ras ityviT penintenciarul sistemaSi arsebul problemebze? ra RonisZiebebi tardeba maTi mo­gvarebisTvis?

- penintenciarul sistemaSi ra problemebicaa, axali aravisTvisaa, magram raRac Sedegiani moqmedebebis gaxorcieleba, am etapze, faqtobri-vad, SeuZlebelia. xSiria patimrebis wamebis faqtebi, magram yvela gaCume-bulia. eSiniaT da imitom. Cveneba rom mogvcen, moklaven da mere ityvian, _ Tavi CamoixrCoo. saSineleba xdeba gldanis merve sapyrobileSi, iq mo-xvedras aravis vusurveb...saerTod, raime pozitiuris misaRwevad erTo-blivi moqmedeba da urTierTTanamS-romlobaa saWiro. usamarTloba rom

xdeba, es yvelam icis, magram xmis amo-Rebis survili cotas Tu uCndeba.

­ saubrobdiT, rom winaaRm­degobebs da provokaciebs xelisu­flebisgan elodebiT, magram saku­Tar kolegebs bolomde endobiT.

- ra Tqma unda, kolegebisgan „bunts“ ar velodebi. Tu CaTvlian, rom asociaciis Tavmjdomaris pos-tze ukeTesi kandidatura arsebobs da sxva Cems saqmes Cemze ukeTesad gaakeTebs, winaaRmdegi ar viqnebi. magram jer-jerobiT maTgan mxolod Tanadgomas veli.

P.S. imedi viqonioT, rom samarTali, bolosdabolos, „purs Cvens qveyanaSic SeWams“. me ki batoni zazas sityvebiT davamTavreb vrcel da mravlismTqmel statias:

RmerTma daglocoT!!!

ori ukiduresoba:erTi mxriv, evropuli standarte-

bis mixedviT mowyobili, garemontebuli, Tanamedrove aparaturiT da medikamen-tebiT, stomatologiis, Terapiis, indi-vidualuri gasaubrebis da sportuli oTaxebiT aRWurvili Tanamedrove sasje-laRsrulebis dawesebulebebi da meore mxriv, msjavrdebulebis sasowarkveTi-li axloblebi, arsebuli autaneli si-tuaciis da adamianuri wamebis, zewolis Sesaxeb cixidan gamotanili ambebi, amas damatebuli saxalxo damcvelis preven-ciisa da monitoringis departamentis mu-Saobis Sedegebis araerTgvarovani, ume-tes wilad, arcTu saxarbielo daskvnebi da uamravi sxva faqti...

TiTqos am ori ukiduresobis arse-bobaSi gasakviri araferia. msgavsi tipis situaciebs SeCveulebic ki unda viyoT ukve. bolos da bolos, ramdenime welia erTi mxriv, ukiduresad dadebiT, meore mxriv, ukiduresad uaryofiT Sefasebas vismenT. erT SemTxvevaSi, Cvenze bednie-ri eri ar arsebobs, meore SemTxvevaSi ki, rogorc ityvian, „wasulia Cveni saqme“ ...

saqarTvelos sasjelaRsrulebis, probaciisa da iuridiuli daxmare-

bis sakiTxTa saministros veb-gverdze sasjelaRsrulebis dawesebulebebis Se-saxeb vkiTxulobT:

„axladgaremontebuli~ 2 dawesebu-leba, romelic 1900 msjavrdebulzea gaTvlili, 4 korpusisgan Sedgeba da Ta-namedrove standartebs Seesabameba. axal dawesebulebaSi mdebareobs samedicino ganyofileba, romelic ukve aRWurvi-lia Tanamedrove aparaturiT, maT Soris stomatologiuri kabinetiT da yvela sa-Wiro medikamentiT. ganyofilebaSi mini qirurgiuli operaciis Catarebacaa Se-saZlebeli. narkotikebze damokidebuli msjavrdebulebisTvis moqmedebs fsi-qologiuri sareabilitacio programa “atlantisi”. programaSi CarTuli msja-vrdebulebisTvis jgufuri Terapiis, in-dividualuri gasaubrebisa da sportuli oTaxebia mowyobili, calkea saSxape da saeklesio kuTxe. dawesebulebaSi morw-mune msjavrdebulebisTvis calke samlo-cvelo moqmedebs, xolo xatweriT dain-teresebulTaTvis specialuri oTaxia gamoyofili. muSaobs maRazia, biblio-Teka, uaxloes momavalSi ki kompiuteris Semswavleli kursebi gaixsneba“...

„sxvadasxva dawesebulebebSi myofi

msjavrdebulebi SvebulebiT sistematu-rad sargebloben... rac msjavrdebulTa resocializacias emsaxureba“...

„bednieri patimari“!!!arada, Cvens qveyanaSi, ara sapati-

mroebSi, jer kidev cxovroben adamiane-bi, romlebsac arc TavSesafari aqvT da arc saarsebo wyaro. Tu xelisuflebis calkeul warmomadgenlebs davujerebT da cixes gacilebiT „komfortul“ ga-remod warmovidgenT, didi albaTobaa, am usaxlkaro, Semosavlis wyaros mokle-bulma adamianma gareT „jojoxeTSi yof-nas“ cixis „komforti“ arCios. bolos da bolos, iq moxvedra mainc araa Zneli...

cixe rom kargi iyos, mgoni, patiosani moqalaqe dedamiwis zurgze, gansakuTre-biT saqarTveloSi, arc ki iarsebebda. bunebrivia, msgavs „fufunebas“ xelisu-flebisgan aravin iTxovs. erTaderTi, rac kritikis sagani xdeba, sapatimroSi arsebuli araadamianuri, arahigienuri pirobebi da msjavrdebulis wamebis fa-qtebi gaxlavT, romelze saubarsac sazo-gadoebaSi ar wyveten. xSiria SemTxvevebi, rodesac msjavrdebuls araadamianuri mopyrobis Semdeg fsiqikuri aSliloba

ra aris wamebisa da araadamianuri mopyrobis faqtze usasrulod gagrZelebuli

gamoZiebis realuri mizezebi da ratom dgas fsiqikurad daavadebuli patimrebis

problema sasjelaRsrulebiT dawesebulebebSi

penitenciarul sistemaSi arsebul viTarebaze saxalxo damcvelis prevenciisa da

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xalxSi araerTgvarovan saubre-bs swored danaSaulis gaxsnis pro-centuli maCveneblis zrda iwvevs. patimarTa axloblebis garkveuli nawili misi Svilis Tu axloblis uka-nonod dakavebis faqtze miuTiTebs. zogi Tavisi ojaxis „ubedurebaSi“ advokats, zogi gamomZiebels, zogi mosamarTles, zogic ki, saerTod, mTavrobis konkretul wevrebs adana-Saulebs...

aravin icis, visi pretenzia ram-denad Seesabameba simarTles, erTi ki faqtia, axloblebis udanaSaulobaSi darwmunebuli mSoblebi patimrebis droze adre gaTavisuflebis imediT prezidentis mier patimarTa Sewya-lebis yovel etaps mouTmenlad elo-debian, xolo siaSi sakuTari Svilis verxilvis Semdeg, ganawyenebulebi

isev „arasamarTlianobaze“, „kanonm-deblebSi arsebul ukanonobaze“ da e.w. „SerCeviT samarTalze“ saubars ubrundebian.

cnobilia, rom prezidentma sa-aRdgomod 400-mde patimari Seiwyala, maSin roca Sewyalebis komisiam mas mxolod 85 kaciani sia gadasca. ara-vin icis, visi rekomendaciiT da ra principiT moxda danarCen patimarTa gaTavisufleba. Semdegi etapi maisSi igegmeboda, Tumca Sewyalebis komi-siis Tavmjdomaris, elene TevdoraZis iniciativiT, zedmeti miTqma-moTqmis Tavidan asacileblad, es procesi wi-nasaarCevnod aRar Sedgeba.

elene TevdoraZe (Sewyalebis komisiis Tavmjdomare): me, rogorc es wesiT da rigiT xdeba, sxdomis Ca-tarebis Sesaxeb Tanxmobis misaRebad

ar mivmarTe prezidents. 30-Si arCevnebia da namdvilad ar minda, patimarTa mdgomare-oba spekulaciis Temad iqces. imdeni miTqma-moTqmaa amas-Tan dakavSirebiT da imdenad xSirad iyeneben patimarTa mSoblebs, rom... arCevnebis gamo komisiis sxdoma gada-vdeT. maisSi Sewyaleba ar iqneba, yovel SemTxvevaSi, es aris Cemi, rogorc komisiis Tavmjdomaris pozicia. Tu­mca Tu prezidentma damava­la, ra Tqma unda, es sxdoma mainc Catardeba.

­ Sewyalebis komisi­am prezidents saaRdgomod SesawyalebelTa 85 kaciani sia warudgina, man ki 400 pa­timari gaaTavisufla. visi

rekomendaciiT moxda danarCenebis gaTavisufleba?

- Zalian gamiWirdeba Tqma, saidan, rogor, me SemiZlia visaubro mxo-lod im 85 patimarze, romelTac Cven miveciT rekomendacia. danarCen Se-mTxvevaSi, Cven araferi viciT.

­ ramdenad xdeba sapatriar­qos rekomendaciebis gaTvaliswine­ba da Semodis Tu maT mier warmodge­nili sia TqvenTan?

- ara, es sia CvenTan ar Semodis.

­ patimarTa mSoblebi da axloblebi xSirad saubroben e.w. „SerCeviT samarTalsa“ da „SerCe­viT Sewyalebaze“. ramdenad samar­Tlianad xdeba Sesawyalebel pati­marTa siis Sedgena?

- ra Tqma unda, Sewyaleba SerCeviT xdeba. arc erT qveyanaSi, rogorc amas mSoblebi da patimris axloblebi fiqroben, ar xdeba Sewya-leba mxolod im kriteriumiT, rom msjavrdebulma moixada sasjelis garkveuli nawili da amitom aucile-belia, iyos Sewyalebuli. Sewyaleba es aris patieba da patieba yovelTvis xdeba SerCeviT. magram am SerCevas, sabolood, isev da isev prezidenti axorcielebs. Sewyalebis komisia ki, romlebic am Temaze muSaobs, pati-marTa saqmeebs swavlobs, Tanxmde-ba, Tu romel patimars misces reko-mendacia, rom Semdeg prezidentma Seiwyalos. bevrs ar vaZlevT reko-mendacias da es absoluturad norma-luri midgomaa... da ras niSnavs usa-marTlod? bunebrivia, yvelas saqmis mimarT erTnairi midgoma ver gveq-

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neba. ra vici, Cven Cveni simarTliT vsazRvravT. magaliTad, es pirveli SemTxvevaa, maincdamainc mZime dana-Sauli ar aris, janmrTelobis mdgo-mareoba mZime aqvs, Zalian bevrs hyavs avadmyofi bavSvebi, an moxuci mSo-blebi, ai es aris midgoma, sxva rogor unda gavakeToT? Cven arc gamomZie-blebi varT, arc prokurorebi, Cven varT komisiis Cveulebrivi wevrebi, adamianebi, romlebic adamianurad, magram frTxilad vudgebiT Sewyale-bis masalebis Seswavlas.

­ swored am adamianuri mo­mentidan gamomdinare, iTvaliswi­nebT Tu ara im patimarTa janmr­Telobis mdgomareobas, romlebic sasjels gansakuTrebiT mZime dana­SaulisTvis ixdian?

- ara, ara... roca aseTi mZime danaSaulia, ar viRebT mxedvelobaSi misi janmrTelobis mdgomareobas. Ce-mTan modian mSoblebi, ojaxis wevrebi im patimrebisa, romlebic mkvlelo-bis gamo sxedan cixeSi. me mesmis maTi umZimesi mdgomareoba, magram yovel-Tvis vfiqrob im xalxzec, im mSoble-bzec, romlebic verasdros veRar na-xaven TavianT axloblebs, Svilebs. es

mxare rogorRac miiRebs daxmarebas, cixeSi iqneba is Tu saavadmyofoSi, magram meore anu dazaralebuli mxa-re, ukve verasdros ixilavs Svils Tu naTesavs, romelic konkretuli piris gamo dakarga. amasTan dakavSirebiT mkafio pozicia maqvs.

­ amboben, komisiis wevrebi „upa­trono“ gancxadebebs gverdiT ise deben, wakiTxvis survilic ki ar uCndebaTo.

- es usamarTlo braldebaa. yovelTvis, roca patimarTa saqmeebs vecnobiT, namdvilad ar viciT, vin dgas mis ukan garda ojaxisa da mSo-blebisa. me SemiZlia mxolod komisia-ze vilaparako Cemi CaTvliT. ra vici, ase mgonia, rom „upatrono“, „ukri­So“ (modiT, „kriSa“ davarqvaT) ada­mianebis saqme zustad komisiaSi Semodis da ara sxvagan. xolo visac SesaZlebloba aqvs, gancxadeba komi-siaSi SeiZleba arc ki Semoitanos da sul sxva gziT wavides.

­ Tu yofila SemTxveva, rode­sac romeli konkretuli patimris saqme seriozuli debatebis sakiTxi gamxdara?

- ra Tqma unda, yovelTvis yve-la saqmeze vkamaTobT. mxolod ra-

mdenime muxlis mimarT vRebulobT erTobliv gadawyvetilebas, rogori-caa, mkvleloba, gamsaRebloba narko-tikebis moxmareba-gavrceleba, gau-patiureba, recidivistoba, yaCaRoba mZime SedegebiT, mZime formebiT da a.S. aq erTi pozicia , ganwyoba gvaqvs da bunebrivia, am tipis saqmeebs arc vixilavT. danarCen saqmeebze didxans mimdinareobs msjeloba. aris kamaTi iseT SemTxvevebzec, rodesac pati-mari Zalian mZime avadmyofia, magram misi monawileoba jgufur yaCaRoba-Si iyo pasiuri. yovelTvis acxadeben, rom 3 saaTi grZeldeboda sxdoma, 4 saaTi grZeldeboda sxdoma, 5 saaTi grZeldeboda... es niSnavs, rom yovel saqmeze Zalian seriozulad vmsje-lobT, vfiqrobT da ase vTqvaT, kon-sesusamde an mivdivarT, an ara.

­ ganacxadebi mimdinare reJimSi ganixileba Tu es, rogorc wesi, mxo­lod sxdomaze xdeba?

- gancxadebis miReba grZel-deba... gancxadebze reagireba xdeba sufTa teqnikurad, xdeba patimarTa saqmeebis gamoTxova da masalebis mo-mavali sxdomisTvis momzadeba, Tum-ca Cven masalebs komisiis sxdomamde erTi kviriT adre vRebulobT.

aseTi istoriebi qarTuli samarTlis sferos bolo periodSi aRar akvirvebs.

zaira nestiaSvilis istoria cotaTi gansxvavdeba msgavsi am-bebisgan.

qalbaton zairas wlebis gan-mavlobaSi Tavis naTesav, aw ukve gardacvlil olRa ficxelaurTan Zalian kargi, Tbili urTierToba hqonda. 1993 wels moxuci qalba-tonis janmrTelobis mdgomareoba gauaresda. rogorc yvelaze sando ojaxs, qalbatonma olRam qalba-ton zairas masTan sacxovreblad gadasvla da misi momvlelis funq-ciis Sesruleba sTxova. qalbatoni zaira moxucebuls mzrunvelobas ar aklebda, wamlebs sistematiu-rad yidulobda da rogorc Tvi-Ton ambobs, qalbaton olRas de-dasaviT uvlida. moxucebulma madlierebis niSnad, sakuTari ini-

ciativiT, anderZi dawera, rom-lis Tanaxmadac momvlel naTesavs awyuris quCa #27/10-Si mdebare bina dautova.

ramdenime xnis Semdeg maT-Tan stumrad olRa ficxelauris ZmiSvili, ekaterine ficxelauri mivida. 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi arc qalbaton olRas da arc zairas masze araferi smeniaT. mas Semdeg mamidis sanaxavad xSirad modioda. garkveuli periodi moxucebul-Tan marto rCeboda. misi wasvlis Semdeg ki qalbaton olRas nervi-uloba etyoboda. Zalian gul-CaTxrobili gaxda. xSirad ganerv-iulebuli da Tvalcremliani iyo.

zaira nestiaSvili: erTxel ekaterinesTan dakavSireba gvTxo-va, magram misi survilis Sesrule-ba ver SevZeliT. ekaterine ficx-

binis miTvisebis ideiT Sepyrobil ZmiSvils mamidis Semdgom bedze arc ki ufiqria

`ioli fuli~anu

erTi Cveulebrivi davis istoriastandartuli situacia: martoxela, yvelasgan mitovebuli moxucebuli axalgazrda ojaxs sakuTari

binis sanacvlod masze mzrunvelobas sTxovs. moxucebulis gardacvalebis Semdeg ki `Cuqebis~ xelSek-rulebis an anderZis safuZvelze `mzrunveli~ ojaxisTvis madlierebis niSnad datovebuli bina `ax-ladgamomcxvari~ naTesavebis mxridan davis sagani xdeba...

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elauri qalbaton olRas sikvdilis bolomde TvaliT aRar gvinaxavs.

2004 wlis noembris dasawyisSi olRa ficxelaurma qalbaton zairas da mis erT-erT naTesavs Tavisi said-umlo gaando. misi TqmiT, ZmiSvilma, ekaterine ficxelaurma notariusTan waiyvana da Cuqebis xelSekrulebaze xelis mowera mosTxova, romlis Zali-Tac misi sacxovrebeli saxli ekater-ine ficxelauris xelSi gadavidoda. qalbatoni olRa amas Zalian ganicdi-da. faqtobrivad, adamianma, romelsac misi arseboba arc ki gaxsenebia, masze ar uzrunia, misgan elementaruli yuradRebac ki ar ugrZvnia, Cuqebis xelSekrulebaze xelis mowera aiZu-la. ufro metic, ekaterine ficxelau-rma qalbatoni olRas sicocxleSive binis gasxviseba ganizraxa.

zaira nestiaSvili: arc ki uki-Txvas, ra bedi SeiZleboda sweoda avadmyof mamidas. maklerebisa da moqalaqeebis gaxSirebuli vizitis gamo, qalbatoni olRa Zalian nervi-ulobda. umadurobis safuZvliT advokatis ayvana da Cuqebis xelSek-rulebis gauqmeba gvTxova. am sakiTx-Tan dakavSirebiT TviTonve gaaforma rwmunebuleba advokatTan. Tavs mo-tyuebulad da damnaSaved Tvlida. gadayva kidec am saqmes. Tumca, sar-Celis Setana mainc moaswro. aRsaniS-navia is faqtic, rom ZmiSvilisTvis binis Cuqebis xelSekrulebis gafor-mebasTan erTad, mas ar gauuqmebia an-derZi (is avtomaturad gauqmda), rom-lis safuZvelzec aRniSnuli qoneba me da Cems ojaxs unda dagvrCenoda. es kidev ufro amyarebs mosazrebas, rom qalbaton olRas azradac ar mosv-lia sadavo binis ZmiSvilisTvis da-

toveba. sxva SemTxvevaSi, is aucile-blad gaauqmebda xsenebul anderZs. an kidev, gaaformebda rCenis xelSek-rulebas, ris safuZvelzec daculi iqneboda, rogorc moxucebulis in-teresi, rom sikvdilis bolomde Ta-vis sakuTar binaSi ecxovra da misi binis gasxvisebis saSiSroebis winaSe ar damdgariyo. aqedan gamomdinare, aSkaraa, rom ekaterine ficxelaurs hqonda dafaruli mizani, _ nebism-ieri gziT mamidamisis binis mflo-beli gamxdariyo da misgan garkveuli sargebeli mieRo. ar ufiqria mamidam-isis arsebul da Semdgom bedze da am qonebis gasxviseba mis sicocxleSive ganizraxa. aqedan gamomdinare, sada-vo ar unda iyos is faqti, rom xelSek-ruleba dadebuli iyo motyuebiT da gamorCenis mizniT, mxolod erTi mx-aris, kerZod, ekaterine ficxelau-ris interesebis dacviT.

qalbatoni olRas gardacvalebis Sedeg ekaterine ficxelaurma sar-Celi aRZra, riTac, rogorc mesaku-Trem, aRniSnuli binidan qalbatoni zairas da loginad Cavardnili meuR-lis gamosaxleba moiTxova.

aRsaniSnavia, rom zaira nestiaS-vili meuRlesTan erTad am binaSi 1994 wlidan cxovrobda, 1996 wlidan oficialurad ixdida yvela komu-nalur gadasaxads, 1998 wlidan ki is da misi meuRle am misamarTze ofi-cialurad arian Cawerilebi. pro-cesze morigebis miuxedavad, qalba-toni zaira da misi avadmyofi meuRle binidan unda gamoasaxles. saqarT-velos kanoni „sacxovrebeli sad-gomiT sargeblobisas warmoSobili urTierTobebis Sesaxeb“ muxli 2 me-3, 4 punqti, muxli 7“ qalbaton zairas aZlevs saSualebas, idavos rogorc mobidandrem, rogorc gadasaxadebis gadamxdelma da rogorc am binaSi Cawerilma pirma.

zaira nestiaSvili: am axladaRmo-Cenili garemoebis Sesaxeb oqtombris Tvis bolos gavige, rodesac CemTan ekaterine ficxelauri movida da komu-naluri gadasaxadebis saqmis mogvareba mTxova. vinaidan gadasaxadebs 96 wli-dan vixdi, xolo 93 wlidan vcxovrob aRniSnul misamarTze, rac sasamarT-los mier udavod dadasturebuli faq-tia, advokatTan konsultaciis dros mivedi daskvnamde, rom SemiZlia vida-vo, rogorc mobinadrem.

zaira nestiaSvilma samoqalaqo saproceso kodeqsis 423 muxlis safuZ-velze saqmis warmoebis ganaxleba moiTxova. aRsaniSnavia, rom am davas Seewira misi meuRlis sicocxle. pro-cesi dResac grZeldeba. Sedegebis Ses-axeb momdevno nomerSi mogiTxrobT.

aReniSneba. msgavsi faqtebis arsebobis miuxedavad, konkretuli zomebis miRe-ba, rogorc xSirad amboben iuristebi Tu politikosebi, mowmeebis ararsebobis gamo ver xerxdeba. calkeuli Jurnalis-tisa Tu advokatis mier sasjelaRsrule-biTi dawesebulebidan patimarTa wamebis SemTxvevebis gaxmaureba Tavad am pati-marTa mier aris uaryofili.

wamebisa da sxva sastiki, araada-mianuri an damamcirebeli mopyrobis an sasjels winaaRmdeg konvenciis fakulta-tiuri oqmis Tanaxmad, patimarTa wamebis prevenciis alternatiuli gza sasjelaR-srulebiTi dawesebulebebis xSiri mona-xuleba gaxlavT. muSaobs Tu ara preven-ciis aseTi alternativa saqarTveloSi, ra keTdeba sasjelaRsrulebiT dawese-bulebebSi arsebuli mZime situaciis mo-sagvareblad, xdeba Tu ara monitoringis Sedegad warmoqmnili SeniSvnebis gaTva-liswineba, Tu yvelaferi mxolod am Se-degebis gamoqveynebiT mTavrdeba? - am da sxva kiTxvebze saxalxo damcvelis pre-venciisa da monitoringis departamentis

xelmZRvanelma naTia imnaZem gvipasuxa. naTia imnaZe: SeiZleba iTqvas, rom

monitoringi amarTlebs. Zalian bevri darCa gamosasworebeli, Tumca ukeTeso-biskenac bevri ram Seicvala. amas, erTi mxriv, Cvens damsaxurebadac miviCnevT. kontrolis sistemis arseboba da sasje-laRsrulebis dawesebulebebSi Cveni regularuli vizitebi patimrebs imeds uCens, rom viRac yovelTvis miva, naxavs da maT problemebs mousmens. amas Zalian didi mniSvneloba aqvs. bunebrivia, mxo-lod monitoringiT ar SemovifarglebiT. gacilebiT ufro mniSvnelovania Sede-gebi. monitoringis mixedviT keTdeba daskvnebi da Semdeg rekomendaciebi, - ra aris gamosasworebeli, ra rogor unda gakeTdes, yalibdeba sakononmdeblo wi-nadadebebic, Tu aris kanonis xarvezi, Tu aris raime, rac ar Seesabameba stan-dartebs, Cveni kanonis romelime moTxov-nas da a.S. momdevno monitoringis dros ki xdeba am rekomendaciebis Sesrulebis gadamowmeba... aseve mniSvnelovania, rom igive arasaTanado mopyrobaze proku-raturaSi da sagamoZiebo organoebSi

gagzavnil werilebsa Tu rekomendacie-bze gamoZieba xSirad wamebisa an ara-adamianuri da damamcirebeli mopyrobis muxliT iwyeba. adre msgavs danaSaulze saqmis aRZvra yovelTvis samsaxurebrivi uflebasmosilebis gadametebiT xdeboda, es ki bevrad ufro msubuqi danaSaulia, vidre is faqtebi, rasac Cven vafiqsirebT xolme. axla ukve realuri Sedegis mi-Rwevaa saWiro. es ki maSin moxdeba, rode-sac damnaSave daisjeba, iqneba is TanamS-romeli Tu nebismieri pirovneba, vinc es „qmedeba“ Caidina. am mxriv, jer-jerobiT ar aris kargi Sedegi. marTalia, gamoZie-ba iwyeba, magram is an dausruleblad grZeldeba, an danaSaulis niSnebis ver aRmoCenis gamo, wydeba. amas mTlad saga-momZiebo organoebsac ver davabralebT. Zalian xSiria SemTxveva, rodesac TviTon patimari, msjavrdebuli, uaryofs imas, rac CvenTan daafiqsira an razec iCivla.

– ambavi, romlis gamoc am sakiTxiT davinteresdiT, tipiuri istoriebisgan didad ar gansxvavdeba. erT-erTma msja-vrdebulis mSobelma misi Svilis cemis

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faqtis Sesaxeb gviambo, – xmamaRla la-paraks erideba, eSinia, uaresi Sedegi ar mohyveso. ar vici, rogor scemen ise, rom tanze kvals ar tovebeno. advokatTa aso-ciaciis Tavmjdomaris zaza xatiaSvilis azriT, „alaparakebis“ SemTxvevaSi, pati-mrebs sicocxlis dakargvis SiSis realu-ri safuZveli aqvT... Tqven Tu xedavT raime alternatiul gzas im patimarTa „asala-parakeblad“, romlebmac sistemis mZime Sedegebi, rogorc ityvian, sakuTar tyavze gamoscades? (vgulisxmob, Tu moaxerxebT patimrebis dacvas, Tu isini realuri si-tuaciis gamoaSkaravebas moindomeben? ) da saerTod, ra keTdeba msgavsi faqtebis ga-mosavlenad da „mCagvrelTa“ pasuxisgebaSi misacemad?

– zustad eg problemaa, rac Se-degis miRwevaSi gviSlis xels. Zalian Znelia, braldebuls dahpirde, rom mis dasacavad yvelafers gaakeTeb. aseTi 100 %-iani dacvis meqanizmebi ar gvaqvs. saukuneebis manZilze adamianebma Zala-dobis iseTi meTodebi gamoimuSaves, ro-melic kvals ar tovebs. gamoZiebis mi-mdinareobis procesSi msjavrdebuls 24 saaTis ganmavlobaSi iq ver davujdebi, Tumca, SeiZleba, yovel dRe movinaxulo. aqedan gamomdinare, Cven am dapirebis mi-cemisac „gveSinia“, rom mere yvelafers ukuSedegi ar mohyves. yovelTvis vcdi-lobT, davarwmunoT wamebis an araada-mianuri mopyrobis msxverpli, rom misi saqmis kontrolqveS ayvanas maqsimalu-rad SevecdebiT. xSirad movinaxulebT, gadavamowmebT, xom ar aris masze zewola da a.S. zewolis garda aris xolme dapi-rebebi, rac kidev ufro arTulebs mdgo-mareobas. anu msjavrdebuls hpirdebian, davuSvaT, lmobier mopyrobas an SeRava-Tebis micemas da a.S. tyuils, marTals, es ukve Cemi gasarkvevi ar aris. yovel SemTxvevaSi, gamoZiebis mimdinaobisas ukuSedegi amasac xSirad aqvs. am dros msjavrdebuli Tavisi problemis mola-parakebis gziT gadawyvetas amjobinebs. aqedan gamomdinare aseTi sakiTxebi yo-velTvis Zalian saCoTiro, grZelvadiani da xSirad, uSedegoa.

– Tu yofila SemTxveva, rodesac patimars Cvenebis micemis Semdeg proble-mebi Seqmnia Tundac cixis administraciis mxridan?

– muqara yofila. amis Semdeg rom ecemoT, aseTi seriozuli problema ar maxsendeba. arsebobs situaciebi, rode-sac msjavrdebuli gveubneba, – damemu-qrnen da aRar minda TqvenTan TanamS-romloba, Tu SeiZleba aRar gaasajarooT Cemi mocemuli axsna-ganmartebao da a.S. es ukve individualuria da yvela adamia-ni Taviseburad reagirebs...

- ra periodulobiT mimdinareobs monitoringi da Tu gaqvT fsiqikurad ara-jansaR patimrebTan urTierToba?

- ki, ra Tqma unda. Cven varCevT ori tipis monitorings. aris gegmiuri, rodesac weliwadSi samjer Tvrametive dawesebulebis Semovlas vakeTebT. mo-mavalSi es, albaT, orjer moxdeba. ise ki dRe ar gava, konkretul patimarTan

Sesaxvedrad, konkretul gancxadebaze sareagireblad Cveni warmomadgeneli erTi-or dawesebulebaSi rom ar wavides. anu es ganuwyveteli procesia. guSin, magaliTad, 4 dawesebulebaSi viyaviT, rogorc wesi, oriT vifarglebiT, bevr-nic ara varT... rac Seexeba fsiqikurad daavadebul msjavrdebulebs, es erT-erTi yvelaze seriozuli problemaa, rac dRes sasjelaRsrulebis sistemaSi dgas. kanonis cvlilebasTan erTad , romelic Tu ar vcdebi, 2006 wels moxda, daikarga meqanizmi, romliTac ukve misjili pati-mari specializirebul, fsiqiatriul da-wesebulebaSi SeiZleboda gadayvaniliyo. dRes Tu msjavrdebuls fsiqiatriuli problemebi misjis Semdeg daewyo, yve-la uZluria da am kategoriis avadmyofs veravin exmareba. axla cvlileba moxda, velodebiT, komisia unda Seiqmnas, ro-melic am sakiTxebs ganixilavs da aseT msjavrdebulebs, romelTa ricxvic di-dia, daexmareba. iciT, albaT, rom ero-vnuli prevenciis meqanizmSi CarTulebi arian eqspertebic, maT Soris bevri fsi-qiatric, romlebic regularad dagvyavs TiTqmis yvela dawesebulebaSi. marTalia, es xdeba ufro metad gegmiuri monito-ringis dros, Tumca gamonaklis SemTxve-vebSi, individualuri vizitebis drosac vaCvenebT aseT pacientebs, romlebic, Ta-vis mxriv, konsultaciebs gadian fsiqia-trTan da swori daniSnulebac eZlevaT. TviTon fsiqiatrebic amboben, sasjelaR-srulebis dawesebulebebSi Sedegis miRwe-va Zalian Zneliao, magram vcdilobT, am adamianebs raRaciT mainc SevumsubuqoT mdgomareoba. ise, Zalian rTuli situa-ciaa. imitom rom TviTon sasjelaRsru-lebis sistemas hyavs sul ori fsiqiatri, konsultanti, StatSi mxolod „rezbal-nicaze“, msjavrdebulTa da patimarTa samkurnalo dawesebulebaSia, sxvagan, miuxedavad standartebis moTxovnisa, arsad ar aris. aris ori fsiqiatr-kon-sultanti, romelic Tvrametive dawese-bulebas emsaxureba. amiT raime realuri Sedegis miRweva warmoudgenelia.

- amboben, pacientebs gadaudebe-li samedicino momsaxureba ugviandebaTo. Semodis Tu ara saCivrebi msgavsi gancxade-bebiT?

- ver vityvi, rom mTlad adminis-traciis xelis SeSlis gamo ugviandebaT. es ubralod, adamianuri, finansuri re-sursebis naklebobis da am etapze dawe-sebulebebSi medikamentebis ararsebobis Sedegia. sistema Seicvala, saministroSi

axali samedicino departamenti Seiqmna, romelic ianvridan arsebobs da kuri-reba mTeli am jandacvis sistemas unda gauwios. praqtikulad, sistemis awyoba axla xdeba da jer-jerobiT arc medika-mentebiT uzrunvelyofis sakiTxia gada-wyvetili. eqimebis Statebic yvela da-wesebulebaSi Zalian mcirea. Sesabamisad, SeuZlebelia, drouli da xarisxiani same-dicino momsaxurebis gaweva. da es ar xde-ba, davuSvaT, imitom, rom viRac sadis-tia da maincdamainc ar unda am xalxis daxmareba. SeiZleba aseTi SemTxvevebic aris, magram ufro metad es sistemuri problemebidan gamomdinare xdeba, rac, fiqrob, maqsimalurad swrafad unda iq-nas gadawyvetili.

- xSir SemTxvevaSi, saxelisufle-bo organoebis mxridan, saubaria cixeebSi arsebuli evropuli standartebis Sesa-bamis garemoze, veb-gverdebze dadebulia amis damadasturebeli videokadrebic. ra-mdenad „komfortulia“ viTareba cixeebSi?

- mapatieT, magram „komfortuli“ Seusabamo sityvaa, axali dawesebulebebi bevrad ufro adaptirebulia adamianur pirobebTan , vidre is, rac arsebobda, katastrofa. axlac aris ramdenime dawe-sebuleba, romlis likvidaciasac viTxo-vT. zugdidis, baTumis, xonis dawesebu-lebebi da Tbilisis pirveli sapyrobile. romlebSic adamianisTvis sruliad gau-saZlisi mdgomareobaa. aseTi viTareba iyo qsnis dawesebulebaSic, axla axali aSenda, Tumca Zveli isev ganagrZobs funqcionirebas. Sendeba axali dawese-bulebebi, sadac ufro metad aris gaTva-liswinebuli sanitarul-higienuri pi-robebi. Tumca dResdReobiT mainc arc erTi ar Seesabameba evropul standarte-bs, Tundac kvadratulobiT. erT adamian-ze minimum oTxi kvadratuli metri unda iyos gamoyofili da es arsad ar aris daculi. garda amisa, aris patar-patara problemebi, rac mosagvarebelia. Tumca axal dawesebulebebSi bevrad ukeTesi pi-robebia, Sedarebac ki ar SeiZleba, vidre ZvelebSi.

_ Tu awydebiT raime saxis winaaRmde-gobas monitoringis an individualuri Sexvedrebis dros?

- am bolo dros, albaT 1 welia an weliwadnaxevari, Tu meti ara, imde-nad SegvaCvies Tvali, imdenad TanamSro-blobiTi urTierToba damyarda sistemis TanamSromlebTan da cixis administra-ciasTan, rom praqtikulad winaaRmdego-bis magaliTebi arc maxsendeba. iyo SarSan calkeuli SemTxvevebi, magram imis Semdeg problema ar Segvqmnia. arSeSvebaze lapa-rakic ki zedmetia. iyo periodi, rodesac gveubnebodnen, - miTiTeba gvaqvs, marto ver dagtovebT patimrebTano. raRac-nairad es problemac movagvareT. azri ar aqvs administraciis TandaswrebiT saubars, sjobs, saerTod ar gaesaubro. SemiZlia, vTqva, rom aranairi winaaRmde-goba monitoringis jgufs ar xvdeba aseT dawesebulebebSi, Tumca aris, raRa Tqma unda, met naklebad TanamSromluri da cota mtruli ganwyoba, Tumca xelisSeS-lamde saqme ar midis.

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arasrulwlovnebSi danaSaulis prevenciisaTvis saqarTvelos proku-raturam, Sinagan saqmeTa da ganaTle-bisa da mecnierebis saministroebma erToblivi kampania daiwyes. proeqt „usafrTxo skolis“ farglebSi mTa-vari prokuraturis TanamSromlebi, danaSaulis prevenciis mizniT, skolis moswavleebTan Sexvedrebs ganagrZoben. specialurad skolebisTvis Seiqmna man-daturTa Static: saTanadod momzade-buli ori mamakaci da erTi qalbatoni moswavleTa usafrTxoebaze izrunebs. procesi Tbilisis Svid sajaro skola-Si 15 aprilidan daiwyo. danarCeni sko-lebi ki sami axali TanamSromliT axal saswavlo wels Sexvdeba.

am sakiTxs sazogadoebaSi araer-Tgvarovani reaqcia mohyva. mSobelTa nawili damSvidda, _ darwmunebuli viqnebiT, Cvens Svilebs aravin arafers dauSavebso. nawilma ki mandaturTa Se-mosvliT mozardebSi danaSaulis pre-venciis 100%-ian garantiis danaxva ver SeZlo. mizezi martivia: mandaturebma skolebSi situaciis ganeitraleba romc moaxerxon, skolis gareT yovelgvar pasuxismgeblobas ixsnian. Sesabamisad, mosalodnelia, skolaSi dawyebuli wye-na quCaSi Cxubis scenam Caanacvloso...

marTalia, qarTvelebi yvelafris kritikas miCveulebi varT, magram xan-daxan arc pozitiuris danaxva gva-wyenda. asea Tu ise, mandaturTa Stati sakuTar saqmes mainc gaakeTebs. yovel SemTxvevaSi, moswavleTa garkveuli na-wili derefnebSi usaqmod xetials, sa-pirfareSoebSi sigaretiT garTobas da dasvenebebze erTmaneTisTvis „cxvir-piris“ mtvrevas mainc veRar SeZleben.

Tumca, mozards yvelgan da yovel-Tvis veravin gahyveba. Sesabamisad, dana-Saulis prevenciisTvis alternatiuli gzis moZebnac unda moxerxdes. mTavari amocanaa, rom mas „garCevebSi“ monawi-leobis miRebis an Tundac, ubralod, quCaSi dgomis survili gauqres.

da rogor SeiZleba arawignismoyva-ruli, araerudirebuli, „quCis garCeve-bis“ mosurne mozardis daintereseba? am kiTxvaze erTaderTi, ualternativo pasuxi arsebobs: kompiuteriT... magram aq meore saSiSroeba iCens Tavs. am asakis bavSvisTvis, kompiuteri narkotikivi-

Taa... skolebSi informaciuli teqnolo-

giebis sagakveTilo procesSi integra-cia bolo ramdenime welia mimdinareo-bs. Tavis droze zogadsaganmanaTleblo dawesebulebebSi am siaxlis danergvas pedagogebsa Tu mSoblebSi araerTgva-rovani reaqcia mohyva. Tumca cifru-li teqnologiebis gamoyenebis auci-lebloba sazogadoebis ganviTarebis xelSewyobis saqmeSi yvelam aRiara. informaciuli teqnologiebis gamoye-neba bavSvebisTvis saintereso rom ga-mxdariyo, jer „irmis naxtomma“, axla

ki „inovaciur sistemaTa institutma“ calkeuli konkursebisa Tu konferen-ciebis saxiT, sxvadasxva proeqtebi Se-mogvTavaza.

sagulisxmoa, rom am tipis proeqte-bSi met-naklebad TiTqmis yvelanairi interesis da xasiaTis mqone bavSvis Ca-bma moxerxda. am kuTxiT aqtiurad muSa-oben pedagogebic, Tumca aRsaniSnavia, rom maswavlebelTa garkveuli nawilis daintereseba informaciuli teqnolo-giebiT jer kidev ver moxerxda.

informaciuli teqnologiebis gamoyeneba sainteresosTan erTad sa-sargebloc rom unda iyos, amaze yvela Tanxmdeba. Tumca pedagogTa garkveuli nawili saswavlo procesSi ukve fex-mokidebul siaxles jer kidev skepti-kurad uyurebs: ra, kompiuteris gareSe gakveTils ver vxsnidiTo Tu? ...

„inovaciur sistemaTa institutis“ strategiuli ganviTarebis menejerma, daviT kiziriam, skolis informaciul menejerebTan erT-erTi Sexvedris dros aRniSna: netav wera-kiTxvis gama-vrcelebeli sazogadoeba xalxs wera-kiTxvis Seswavlis aucileblobas ro-gor uxsnidao?

daviT kiziria (inovaciuri siste­mebis institutis strategiuli ganvi­Trebis menejeri): dRes Cven igive misia gvaqvs, rac Tavis droze wera-kiTxvis gamavrcelebel sazogadoebas hqonda. Cvenc, iseve rogorc Tavis droze es sazogadoeba, vcdilobT moswavleebsa

da pedagogebs saarsebo ganviTarebis iaraRi mivceT. cifruli teqnologie-bis farTod danergva da gamoyeneba esaa winsvlis, ganviTarebis aucilebeli pi-roba. Cven, am mxriv, Cvens gamocdilebas yvela dainteresebul pirs vuziarebT da sxvebis dainteresebasac vcdilobT. principSi, rogorc Tavis droze anba-ni, Semdeg beWduri saSualebebi, dRes cifruli teqnologiebi aris komunika-ciis, codnis miRebis da gadacemis Zi-riTadi saSualeba. ramdenadac mniSvne-lovani iyo garkveuli periodis win jer wera-kiTxvis, mere beWduri saSualebe-

bis gavrceleba da danergva sazogadoebaSi, imdenadve aucilebelia dRes cifruli teqnologiebis gamoyeneba. bunebrivia, yvelafers goni-vruli midgoma sWirdeba, sxva SemTxvevaSi, yvelaferi Cvens sawinaaRmdegod SeiZleba Se-mobrundes. Tumca gonivru-li midgomis SemTxvevaSi, es uzarmazari Sansia CvenTvis. gasaTvaliwinebelia, rom Cven patara eri varT da globali-zaciis periodSi vcxovrobT, Sesabamisad, fexi Tanamedro-veobas unda avuwyoT, sxvagva-rad ver ganvviTardebiT.

„inovaciur sistemaTa instituti“ saqarTveloSi

daaxloebiT ori wlis win Seiqmna. ra-mdenime adamianma, romelic garkveul dros sxvadasxva sferoSi informaciu-li teqnologiebis mimarTulebiT mu-Saobda, codnisa da gamocdilebis sxve-bisTvis gaziareba gadawyvita.

daviT kiziria: es sinTezi sakamod sainteresod viTardeba. Cveni samuSao sfero aris Tanamedrove informaciu-li sistemebis danergva sxvadasxva mi-marTulebiT. prioritetulia ganaTle-ba, kultura, sazogadoeba, mecniereba, sxvadasxva programebis lokalizeba. magram, ZiriTadad, mainc ganaTleba da mecnierebas vaniWebT upiratesobas, radgan sazogadoebis ganviTareba swo-red aqedan iwyeba.

ganaTlebis saministros inovacie-bis mimarTulebiT saxelmwifo strate-gia ar Seucvlia. amis kargi magaliTia erToblivi proeqtis „partnioroba ganaTlebaSi“ ganxorcieleba. saminis-trom `Microsoft”-Tan memorandumi gaa-forma, romlis farglebSic ramdenime proeqti jer kidev SarSan ganxorciel-da. bolos, gaxsovT albaT, mrgvali magidebis cikli iyo, romelSic moswa-vleebi, maswavleblebi, direqtorebi, arasamTavrobo seqtorebi, `Microsoft”-is warmomadgeneli ganaTlebis saminis-trodan da uSualod ministri iRebda monawileobas.

­ miuxedavad imisa, rom bavS­vebis interesi cifruli teqnolo­

realuri da virtualuri samyaros sinTezi arasrulwlovanTa danaSaulis prevenciis mZlavr iaraRad SeiZleba iqces

daviT kiziria: yovel niuanss gonivruli midgoma sWirdeba,sxva SemTxvevaSi, yvelaferi sawinaaRmdegod Semogvibrundeba

arasrulwlovanTa Soris sko­lebSi momxdarma e.w. „quCis gar­Cevebma“, TiTqos umizezod wa­mowyebulma da mZime SedegebiT dasrulebulma SemTxvevebma da ucnaurma axalgazrdulma „garTo­bebma“, romelic erTmaneTisTvis „cxvir­piris“ mtvrevisgan arafriT gansxvavdeba da xSirad, savalalo SedegebiTac mTavrdeba, garkveuli zomebis miRebis da praqtikaSi dauyovneblad gatarebis aucile­bloba warmoSva.

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giebis kuTxiT, SeSinebuli mSoblebi bavSvTa gonebis „dakninebis“ SesaZle­blobaze saubroben.

- garkveulwilad, marTlebic arian, yvelafers Tavisi CarCoebi aqvs. realurad arsebobs garkveuli riski, Tumca arsebobs programebic, romelic informaciuli teqnologie-bis usafrTxo gamoyenebaze zrunavs da cdilobs im riskebis minimizirebas, romelic informaciuli teqnologie-bis aramiznobrivma Tu arasworma ga-moyenebam SeiZleba moitanos. swored aseTia `Microsoft”-is programa, romelic saganamanTleblo dawesebulebebSi in-formaciuli teqnologiebis miznobriv gamoyenebas uzrunvelyofs, raTa is iyos xelSemwyobi da ara xelis SemSle-li sazogadoebis ganviTarebisa. meore mxriv, es aris uzarmazari okeane. bune-brivia, CemTvisac, iseve rogorc sxva mSoblisTvis, arsebobs garkveuli SiSi, rom am uzarmazar okeaneSi, uzarmazar kosmosSi sxvebTan erTad Cemi Svilic ar daikargos. amitom aucilebelia, yve-laferi Zalian frTxilad gavTvaloT da sworad gamoviyenoT is uzarmazari energia, romelic SeiZleba orive mxares iyos mimarTuli. Zalian mniSvnelovania, sazogadoebaSi iyos mzaoba, Cvens xelT arsebuli Zala gonivrulad, raciona-lurad, pragmatulad gamoviyenoT. sa-Wiroa Cven, ufrosma Taobam, movZebnoT is swori midgoma, romelic sasurvel Sedegebamde migviyvans.

­ ra siaxleebs gegmavT samoma­vlod?

- Cveni proeqtebi ori garemos, realur da irealur samyaros Soris sinTezs gulisxmoben. proeqtebi, rom-lebic ukavSirdebobdnen kulturul memkvidreobas, vgulisxmob „emanuscipt”-is proeqtebs, romelic gasul wels Cven mier SerCeul 30 skolas Soris Catarda, Tavis TavSi moswavleebis mier xalxis kulturuli memkvidreobis Seswavlas da am mizniT, informaciuli teqnolo-giebis gamoyenebas aerTianebda. es ar iyo Sejibri, aviReT konkretuli Tema, abo Tbileli, bavSvebs miveciT davale-ba, am nawarmoebis mixedviT gamoekvliaT konkretuli sakiTxi, SeeqmnaT veb-gver-di da moexdinaT sakuTari namuSevris prezentacia. sabolood, yvelafers konferenciis saxe miveciT. mizani iyo moswavleebSi kvlevis unarebis ganvi-Tarebis xelSewyoba. proeqti ganxor-cieldeba ganaTlebis saministrosa da saerTaSoriso organizaciebis mxar-

daWeriT. Cveni mizania, xeli SevuwyoT ZiriTadi sabazo Rirebulebebis daner-gvas, romelzec dRes msoflio dgas, im procesebis ganviTarebas, informaciu-li teqnologiebis sworad gamoyene-bas, realuri samyaros sworad aRqmas nebismieri sferos mimarTulebiT da TanamedroveobisTvis amis Semecnebis wyarod qcevas. swored am ori, realu-ri da virtualuri, garemos sinTezSia gamosavali. amocana mdgomareobs imaSi, rom erTi mxriv, adamianma ar dakargos Tavisi yofierebis SegrZneba, da meore mxriv, gamoiyenos virtualuri samyaro, rogorc realobis Semecnebis yvelaze mZlavri saSualeba. fataluri Sedege-bis Tavidan asacileblad aucileblad unda mivagnoT „oqros Sualeds“.

­ da rogor fiqrobT, bolos da bolos, mivagnebT am „oqros Sualeds“?

- vfiqrob, rom mivagnebT, sazo-

gadoeba sakmaod gaxsnilia, siaxleebic uyvars, codnas eswrafvis, axal Taobas kompiuteri aerTianebs, amas davuma-toT gamocdileba, romelic Cvens sis-temaSia. yvelafris gaTvaliswinebiT, imedi maqvs rom sasurvel Sedegs miva-RwevT. Tqven naxeT, rom Cvens proeqte-bSi monawileobdnen ara marto axalga-zrda, aramed asakovani pedagogebic, romlebic moswavleebs informaciuli teqnologiebis sworad gamoyenebaSi uwyoben xels. swored amaSi mdgomare-obs pedagogika. maT SeiZleba naklebad esmiT informaciuli teqnologiebi, vidre im bavSvebs, romlebic proeqtze muSaobdnen, magram gverdSi udganan maT da yvela SesaZlo gziT cdiloben meti codna miawodon moswavleebs. aseTi unda iyos kargi pedagogi.

P.S. wignis kompiuteriT Canacvle-bis albaTobaze sazogadoebaSi kom-piuterizaciis pirveli niSnebis ga-CenisTanave alaparakdnen. kidev meti saubris saSualeba xalxs pirveli kla-selebisTvis kompiuterebis darige-bis samomavlo gegmam misca. mSobel-Ta araerTgvarovani damokidebuleba internet-forumebzec aisaxa. uamravi Tema gaixsna, romelzec mosaxleoba Svi-lebTan dakavSirebul safuZvlian SiSs gamoTqvamda. marTalia, riskis faqto-ri arsebobs, magram yvelaferi arc ise cudadaa, rogorc erTi SexedviT Cans. wignis kompiuteriT Canacvlebis SiSi rom usafuZvloa, amas kompiuteris ne-bismieri momxmarebeli damidasturebs. SeuZlebelia vrceli literaturuli nawarmoebebis an samecniero naSromis wakiTxva kompiuterul ekranze. Sesa-bamisad, wignis moyvarulisTvis wigni isev literaturis ziarebis erTaderT saSualebad rCeba. sanacvlod, skolebSi informaciuli teqnologiebis danergva im bavSvTa dainteresebasac gamoiwvevs, romelTaTvisac wigni, samwuxarod, „me-aTexarisxovan“ nivTs warmoadgens. bu-nebrivia, aseT SemTxvevaSi, maT pirvel etapze quCaSi dgomis dro, Semdeg ki survilic aRar eqnebaT. calkeuli pro-eqtebi, TamaSebi, romliTac nebismieri moswavlis dainteresebaa SesaZlebeli, uaxloes momavalSi swored rom „usafr-Txo skolis“ arsebobis da arasrulwlo-vanTa danaSaulis prevenciis yvelaze mZlavr saSualebad SeiZleba iqces.

kiTxvebi iuristTan

1. rodesac qoneba aris ramdeni-me ipoTekiT datvirTuli da erT-erTi ipoTekaris moTxovniT, qoneba gadis auqcionze, maqvs Tu ara Cemi moTxovnis dayenebis ufleba axal mesakuTresTan?

pas: geqnebaT, radganac Tqveni mo-Txovna gadayveba gasxvisebul qonebas, rac niSnavs imas, rom miuxedavad me-sakuTris Secvlisa, Tqven grCebaT mo-Txovnis dayenebis ufleba, Tu ar gqon-daT dayenebuli moTxovna Tavdapirvel mesakuTresTan.

2. SemiZlia Tu ara uZravi qone-bis yodva-gayidvis, gaCuqebis xelSekru-lebis gaformeba sajaro reestrSi nota-riusTan miusvlelad?

pas: diax, uZrav qonebasTan daka-vSirebuli xelSekrulebebis saja-ro reestrSi gaformeba notariusTan miusvleladac SesaZlebelia. kanoniT orive daSvebulia, magram notariusTan xelSekrulebis gaformebis SemTxve-vaSi, savaldebuloa, misi sajaro ree-trSi gatareba. Tu sad gaaformebT aR-niSnul xelSekrulebas, es ukve Tqvens neba-survilzea damokidebuli.

3. SemiZlia Tu ara alimentis moTxovnis dayeneba, roca ar var regis-trirebul qorwinebaSi, magram mamoba aRiarebulia kanoniT dadgenili wesiT.

pas: mamobis aRiareba warmoSobs yvela iuridiul Sedegs mama-Svils So-ris. e.i Tqven gaqvT moTxovnis dayene-bis ufleba alimentTan dakavSirebiT.

4. gyvavs arasrulwlovani Svi-lebi. muRlesTan urTierTSeTanxmebiT gvinda ganqorwineba. Cvens Soris ara-nairi dava ar arsebobs. romel organos unda mivmarToT ganqorwinebisTvis.?

pas: saqarTvelos samoqalaqo ko-deqsis 1123 muxlis Tanaxmad, Tu meuR-leebs Soris ar aris dava, SegiZliaT, erToblivi gancxadebiT saagentos te-ritoriul samsaxurs mimarToT. Tumca aris erTi faqtori: colis orsulo-bis dros da bavSvis dabadebidan erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi, colis Tanxmobis gareSe qmars ganqorwinebis ufleba ar aqvs. am SemTxvevaSi unda mimarTon sa-samarTlos.

5. notariusis gareSe dadebuli sesxis xelSekruleba maZlevs Tu ara sa-samarTloSi davis saSualebas?

pas: kanoni gvaZlevs saSualebas, aseTi xelSekrulebiT vidavoT sasamar-TloSi. umjobesia xelSekruleba damo-wmebuli iyos notariusis mier, magram es savaldebulo ar aris.

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... da mainc, ratom gvirTuleben cxovrebas notariusebi?

ratom ar vici, magram rogor gvir-Tuleben da ra gzebi arsebobs am gar-Tulebebis Tavidan asacileblad, amis garkvevas advokat maia xaWapuriZesTan erTad Sev-ecdebiT.

maia xaWapuriZe (ad­vokati): praqtikidan ga-momdinare, samoqalaqo samarTalSi erT-erT se-riozul problemas samkvi-dros miReba warmoadgens. vinaidan yoveli moqalaqe, romelic andenZismieri an kanonismieri memkvi-dre xdeba, ar gaxlavT in-formirebuli an gnebavT, g a T v i T c n o b i e r e b u l i eqvsTviani xandazmulobis vadis Sesaxeb, notariuss am vadis gasvlis Semdeg akiTxavs. amis gamo xSiria SemTxvevebi, rodesac prob-lemaTa mTeli nakadi iqmneba: notariusi xandazmulobis vadis gasvlis mizeziT uars eubneba kuTvnili qonebis damt-kicebaze da moqalaqe iZulebuli xdeba, mimarTos sasamarTlos, rac TavisTavad dakavSirebulia, rogorc sasamarTlo-Si saxelmwifo baJis saxiT Tanxis gadax-dasTan da advokatis momsaxurebis xarjebTan, aseve drois fuW flangv-asTan. am dros aris saSualeba, rom es problema Zalian martivad iqnas gadaw-yvetili. saqarTvelos samoqalaqo kod-eqsis 1426-e muxli mkafiod miuTiTebs, rom nebismier moqalaqes modave mxaris ararsebobis SemTxvevaSi, SeuZlia sam-kvidro sasamarTloSi mimarTvis gareSe miiRos. vinaidan notariusebi am muxls ar iyeneben, moqalaqeebis umravlesoba TveobiT elodeba sasamarTlos. gasaT-valiswinebelia, rom moqalaqeebs, xSir SemTxvevaSi, advokatisTvis mimarTvis da saxelmwifo baJis gadaxdis saSuale-ba ar aqvs. Tumca iSviaTad, magram mainc sapirispiroc xdeba. Cemi praqtikidan gamomdinare, SemiZlia is erTaderTi SemTxveva davasaxelo, rodesac no-tariusi samoqalaqo kodeqsis 1426-e muxls praqtikaSi sakmaod efeqturad iyenebs. dedofliswyaros raionSi ar-sebobs notariusi, qalbatoni lia gome-lauri, romelic imdenad kargad muS-aobs, rom sasamarTlos zemoxsenebuli

anu xandazmulobis eqvsTviani vadis gagrZelebis TxovniT aRaravin mimar-Tavs. qalbatoni lia ambobs: samoqalaqo kodeqsi maZlevs saSualebas, davadgi-no, arseboben Tu ara am qonebiT sxva dainteresebuli pirebi da amis Semdeg movaxdino samkvidro qonebis gadasvla memkvidrezeo.

sakmaod didi problemaa am mxriv TbilisSi. ager gldanSi gvyavs notari-usi, romelmac xandazmulobis vadis gagrZelebaze uari gviTxra, _ samoqa-laqo kodeqss ver vendobio. rogor Sei-Zleba ar vendoT samoqalaqo kodeqss, rodesac is samoqalaqo sferoSi Ziri-Tad saxelmZRvanelos warmoadgens?! aseve gvqonda SemTxvevebi qeTevan wame-bulis gamzirze, rodesac notariuseb-ma uari Tqves am muxlis gamoyenebaze da moqalaqeebi iZulebulebi gaxdnen, miemarTaT sasamarTlosTvis. isini gancxadebis warmoebaSi miRebas axlac

elodebian. ar ician, ganixilavs Tu ara maT saqmes sasamarTlo.

vTqvaT, am problemiT moqalaqem sasamarTlos mimarTa, sasamarTlo yve-la SemTxvevaSi adgens, arseboben Tu ara am sakmvidro qonebiT daintere-sebuli pirebi, romelTa uflebebzec SeiZleba gavlena moaxdinos sasamarT-lo gadawyvetilebebma. Semdeg Cven isev notariusTan „sirbili“ gvWirdeba imis gasarkvevad, xom ar mimarTa mas am qonebiT dainteresebulma sxva pirma. gamodis, rom notariusma Zalian kar-gad icis, rom unda moaxdinos am sam-kvidros gadacema memkvidreze. icis, rom ar arseboben sxva dainteresebuli pirebi, radgan gancxadebiT sxvas ar mi-umarTavs, magram ratomRac Tavs ikave-ben am muxlis gamoyenebisgan. saerTod, mixaria, rom aseTi muxli samoqalaqo kodeqsSi arsebobs, rac moqalaqeebs sakuTari qonebis miRebas umartivebs. viciT, rom moqalaqeTa uflebebis dac-va prioritetulia ara marto saqarT-veloSi, aramed msoflioSi. kargi iqne-boda, am kuTxiTac dagvecva moqalaqeTa ufleba, uwvaleblad, droisa da fulis dauxarjavad miiRos kuTvnili qoneba. amisTvis notariusebis mier samoqalaqo kodeqsis 1426-e muxlis gamoyenebac kmara. vfiqrobdi, xom ar migvemarTa ad-vokatebs notariusTa palatisTvis da gveTxova, rom gadaxedos im notariusTa dadgenilebebs, romlebic uars amboben

uflebamosilebis ganxorcielebaze? dedofliswyaroSi Cemi klientis, lali TanaSvilis saqme qalbaton lia gome-lauris wyalobiT, romelic, rogorc zemoT aRvniSne, Zalian kargad iyenebs samoqalaqo kodeqsiT miniWebul ufle-bas, sasurveli SedegiT dasrulda. dRes vmuSaob ana aidoianis da giorgi talaxaZis memkvidreobis miRebis faqt-Tan dakavSirebiT. orive procesi sa-samarTlo warmoebaSia. gadawyvetileba miRebuli ar aris. ar vici, scnobs Tu ara maT sasamarTlo memkvidreebad. mere isev notariuss unda mivmarToT, - sasamarTlom vada gauxangrZliva da iqneb keTili ineboT da axla mainc mom-ceT samkvidro mowmobao da a.S. da es ar aris mxolod Cems praqtikaSi arsebuli SemTxvevebi. saqarTveloSi, namdvilad vici, rom am mdgomareobiT uamravi ada-miania gawvalebuli. samkvidros miReba swored am muxlis gamouyeneblobis ga-

moa gaWianurebuli. P.S. saqarTvelos samo-

qalaqo kodeqsSi vkiTxu-lobT:

muxli 1426. samkvidros miRebis va-

dis gagrZeleba 1. samkvidros misaRebad

dadgenili vada SeiZleba gaagrZelos sasamarTlom, Tu vadis gadacilebis mi-zezebi sapatiod iqneba miCneuli. vadis gasvlis Semdeg samkvidro SeiZleba miRebul iqnas sasamarTlo-saTvis mimarTvis gareSec, Tu Tanaxma iqneba samkvi-

dros mimRebi yvela memkvidre. mec ki, ubralo moqalaqe, mivxvdi,

rom Zalian martivad SeiZleba avici-loT Tavidan is davidaraba, rasac ubralo moqalaqeebs notariusebis mier am muxlis gamouyenebloba uqmniT. hoda, msgavsi problemiT Sewuxebuli ubralo moqalaqeebis saxeliT gekiTxe-biT, notariusebo, Tuki arsebobs saSu-aleba, gagvimartivoT cxovreba, Tuki gacilebiT swrafad, energiis da fulis dauxarjavad SeiZleba Tundac am erTi TqvenTvis umniSvnelo, magram CvenTvis sasicocxlo mniSvnelobis problemis gadaWra, Tuki SeiZleba cotaTi mainc SegvimsubuqoT cxovreba, ratom gvir-TulebT mas?

rogorc Cans kiTxva „ratom?“ am SemTxvevaSic pasuxgaucemeli rCeba...

ucnauri arsebebi varT adamianebi, - kacTmoyvareo-baze Tavs vdebT, magram erTmaneTisTvis cxovrebis garTulebaze uars arasdros vambobT. problemis martivad gadaWris nacvlad, rTuli amocanebis amox-snas vamjobinebT. es, rogorc ityvian, ̀ Zval-rbilSi~ ise gvaqvs gamjdari, rom yvelafer martivSi raRac alogikurs da saSiSs veZebT da safrTxis Tavidan acilebis mizniT, RmerTma icis, ra sirTuleebs ve-brZviT. aseT dros mravaljer wamoWrili kiTxva `ratom?!~, rogorc yovelTvis upasuxod rCeba...

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inglisurisa da kompiuteris mo-TxovnasTan erTad izrdeba im saswav-lebelTa ricxvi, romlebic moTxovnil sferoebSi kvalificiur ganaTlebas gvpirdeba. ”umuSevrobis bumis“ peri-odSi isedac gaWirvebul mosaxleobas elementaruli codnis misaRebad sakma-od soliduri Tanxis gadaxda uwevs. sx-vadasxva saswavlebels sxvadasxva fasi aqvs, romelic sxvadasxva etapze kidev ufro matulobs.

Tbilisis meriam Tbiliselebis dasaxmareblad inglisurisa da kom-piuteris moklevadiani ufaso kursebis programa SeimuSava, magram iq miRebuli codna imdenad mwiria, rom ... garkveuli safuZvlis Seqmnis miuxedavad, saeWvoa vinmem am codnis miznobrivi gamoyeneba moaxerxos... samwuxarod, regionebSi mcxovreb mosaxleobaze am kuTxiT ara-vin zrunavs...

asea Tu ise, nebismieri dawesebule-ba, iqneba es iuridiuli, saganmanaTle-blo Tu biznes organizacia, in-glisuri enis codnas dasaqmebis erT-erT umTavres pirobad miiCnevs. saswavlo daweseb-ulebebi, romlebic am kuTxiT muSaoben, ZiriTadad, zogadi, sasaubro inglisuris daufle-bas sTavazoben mosaxleobas. specifikuri inglisuris Ses-wavlisTvis ki damatebiTi Rire-bulebis gadaxdaa aucilebeli.

inglisuri enis dauflebis surviliT mosaxleobis gar-kveuli nawili erTi saganmana-Tleblo dawesebulebidan meo-reSi gadainacvlebs im martivi Sedegis molodinSi, rom rog-orRac misTvis sasurvel saswav-lebels misTvis sasurvel fasSi miakvlevs.

romeli saswavlebeli rogor pi-robebs sTavazobs mosaxleobas? sad SeiZleba SedarebiT SeRavaTian fasad srulfasovani ganaTlebis miReba? SesaZlebelia Tu ara zogad inglisur-Tan erTad sxva specifikuri codnis daufleba damatebiTi gadasaxadis gar-eSe? am da mraval sxva kiTxvaze pasuxs Cvenc sxva dainteresebul pirebTan er-Tad veZebdiT. aRmoCnda, rom aseT Sesa-Zleblobas msurvelebs inglisuri enis Semswavleli centri „Cambridge House”-i sTavazobs...

„Cambridge House”-i sul sami welia arsebobs. mravali sxva skolisgan gan-sxvavebiT, maTi momsaxurebiT sarge-blobis moTxovna saocari siswrafiT izrdeba. SeiZleba iTqvas, rom „Cambridge House”-i „moxetiale cxovrebas“ eweva (xSirad icvlis faqtobriv misamarTs), rac msmenelTa ricxovnobis zrdiT aris ganpirobebuli. es ki, udavod, didi warmatebaa. profesionalizmi da pirovnuli xibli _ esaa saswavleblis xelmZRvanelebisa da pedagogebis mTa-

vari iaraRi. Seqmnis istoriaam saganmanaTleblo dawesebule-

bas saTaveSi ori Tanamdebobrivad Tanasworuflebiani megobari, luka gurgeniZe da giorgi batiaSvili udgas,

romelTa warmatebuli menejmentis wya-lobiT, skola dRes ara marto msmenel-ebisTvis, aramed TanamSromlebisTvi-sac sasiamovno garemod da cxovrebis aucilebel nawilad iqca. erTmaneTis-gan sruliad gansxvavebulebi erTma-neTs bolomde endobian. kargad ician, rom swored am ndobis da erToblivi Sromis wyalobiT SeZles saswavleblis fexze dayeneba.

giorgi batiaSvili („Cambridge House”­is direqtori): erTxel erTma moswavlem miTxra, _ Tqven rom orive erTnairebi iyoT, orives mkacri, an piriqiT, rbili xasiaTi gqondeT, aqau-roba dageSlebodaTo. mivxvdi, rom mar-Tali iyo.

yvelaferi ki ase daiwyo:erTmaneTi 10 wlis win univer-

sitetis da sxvadasxva sagranto pro-gramebis dafinansebiT studqalaqSi ltolvili bavSvebisTvis gaxsnil sas-wavlo centrSi gaicnes. muSaobis peri-odSi damegobrdnen. amis Semdeg batoni luka sazRvargareT wavida.

_ dedaqalaqSi axali dabrunebu-li luka CemTan iyo stumrad. sityvam moitana da miTxra_ ginda skola gavx-snaTo? maSin es seriozulad ar aRmiq-vams, Tumca mainc daveTanxme, _ Sen qalans aswavli, me „homereading”-s-Tqo... spontanurad naTqvami idea zustad sam dReSi moviyvaneT sisruleSi“ _ ix-senebs batoni giorgi.

Tavdapirvelad muSaoba viwro garemoSi daiwyes. saerTo megobarma, iase cincaZem, romelsac aseTive saswav-lo centri hqonda, erTi oTaxi gamouyo. megobrebma ndobis mopoveba maleve Se-Zles. cota xanSi, msmenelTa raodenoba sagrZnoblad gaizarda da iZulebulebi gaxdnen, samuSao garemo SeecvalaT. es procesi ramdenjerme ganmeorda. sas-wavleblis mimarT ndobis da iq swavlis survilis zrdas Tu gaviTvaliswinebT, savaraudod, xelmZRvanelobas moma-valSi damatebiTi filialebis gaxsnac mouwevs.

ratom „Cambridge House”-i?giorgi batiaSvili: Cven-

Tan swavleba, ZiriTadad, qa-lanis meTodiT mimdinareobs, magram sxva saswavleblebis-gan gansxvavebiT, mxolod am meTodiT ar SemovifarglebiT. zustad im fasad, ra fasSic sxvebi inglisuri enis Seswav-las mxolod qalanis meTodiT gTavazoben, Cven damatebiT sxva sagnebsac gaswavliT, ro-goricaa literatura, bri-taneTis da amerikis istoria, biznes inglisuri da a.S. (Ses-abamisi saxelmZRvaneloebis da audio-video masalebis gamoy-enebiT)... CvenTan aseve gaecno-biT Tanamedrove britanul presas, rac leqsikuri maragis

kidev metad gamdidrebis saSualebas mogcemT, or kviraSi erTxel uyurebT mxatvrul films inglisur enaze, moax-denT mis analizs, rac inglisurenovani zepirmetyvelebis smenadobis ganviTa-rebas Seuwyobs xels, kviraSi erTi dRe praqtika geqnebaT ucxoel pedagogTan, rac e.w. „enis gatexvis“ saSualebas war-moadgens ...

da kidev erTi „pliusi“, rasac Cve-ni saswavlebeli gTavazobT: geZlevaT saSualeba damatebiTi ucxo ena (es-panuri, franguli, germanuli, itali-uri, Turquli, rusuli) SeiswavloT sruliad ufasod.

xelSekruleba kviraSi samjer ori akademiuri saaTi mecadineobas iTval-iswinebs, Tumca damatebiT sagnebTan erTad swavlebis drois xangrZlivobac izrdeba. sul Svidi donea, TiToeuli donis xangrZlivoba 3 Tves Seadgens. donis zrdasTan erTad izrdeba damate-biT saganTa raodenobac. pirvel done-

saqme da megobroba

saswavlebeli, sadac erTi meoresgan iqmneba da piriqiT„Cambridge House”-is warmatebis saidumlo iaraRi

inglisuri enis srulyofili codna da informaciuli teqnol­ogiebis gamoyeneba dRes rom sa­sicocxlo aucileblobad iqca, amaze aRaravin davobs. ufro metic, am bolo dros dasaqmebis saite­bze gamocxadebuli vakanturi TanamdebobebisTvis aucilebeli moTxovnebis nusxis ucnaur formu­lirebasac vawydebiT: inglisuris da kompiuteris codna savalde­buloa, qarTulis _ sasurvelio... samsaxuris maZieblisTvis umTavres amocanad am ori ukve savaldebulo komponentis daufleba iqca.

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ze swavleba mxolod qalanis meTodiT mimdinareobs, meore donidan emateba literatura da a.S... ucxoeli pedagog-Tan praqtika iwyeba meoTxe donidan... swavlebis donis zrdasTan erTad ar izrdeba gadasaxadi, rac xSiria sxva saswavleblebSi. Rirebuleba nebismier etapze TveSi 120 lars ar aRemateba.

CvenTan inglisuri enis Seswavla 10-dan 60 wlamde asakis nebismier msurvels SeuZlia. saswavlebelSi miReba Zalian martivad xdeba. Tu msmenels garkveuli codna ukve aqvs, donis ganmsazRvre-li testis Sevsebis Semdeg, sacdel gakveTilebze daswrebis saSualeba eZleva. amis Semdeg gadawyvets, unda darCes Tu ara Cvens saswavlebelSi. Tu msmenels garkveuli ambicia gauCnda, rom misi gonebrivi SesaZleblobebi im jgufis SesaZleblobebs aRemateba, romelSic testirebis safuZvelze moxvda, mas kidev erTxel eZleva Sansi, daeswros ufro maRali donis jgufis mecadineobas. aq ukve pedagogi gansaz-Rvravs, ramdenad Seesabameba msmenelis ambicia mis realur SesaZleblobebs. sacdel gakveTilebze daswrebis Sem-deg, msmeneli aformebs xelSekrulebas da iwyebs Cveul reJimSi mecadineobas.

_ ramdenad xSiria SemTxveva, rodesac sacdel gakveTilebze das­wrebis Semdeg msmeneli uars ambobs xelSekrulebis gaformebaze?

_ simarTle giTxraT, es Zalian iS-viaTad xdeba. rac skola arsebobs, mgo-ni, aseT faqts sul samjer hqonda ad-gili. rogorc wesi, msmenelebs Zalian moswonT garemo, sagnebi, pedagogebi da swavlebis meTodi. msmeneli TviTon irCevs dros da dRes. vcdilobT, yve-las azri da interesi gaviTvaliswinoT. yvelafers vakeTebT, rom maTTvis kom-fortuli, sasiamovno, ojaxuri gare-mo SevqmnaT. Tu rogor gamogvdis, es Tqveni Sesafasebelia. msmenelebi ambo-ben, rom aq mosvla uxariaT. studenti rom viyo, mec sixaruliT vivlidi iseT saswavlebelSi, sadac maswavlebelSi oficialur pirs ki ara, megobars da-vinaxavdi, sadac swavlis survils xaT-ric daemateboda da meti mondomebiT viswavlidi.

SemuSavebuli gvaqvs abiturientTa mosamzadebeli programac. swavleba

erovnuli sas-wavlo gegmis m o T x o v n e b i s g a T v a l -iswinebiT mim-d i n a r e o b s . mecadineobis xangrZlivoba kviraSi samjer or-ori saaTs Seadgens. Sar-Sandelma stu-dentebma 93-97 qula aiRes. wlevandelebis m i R w e v e b s a c male vnaxavT. b u n e b r i v i a , amaze nakleb Sedegs arc wels velodeb-iT. rogorc

wesi, studentebs garantias vaZlevT, rom Cveni kursebis gavlis Semdeg maRa-li qulebis aRebas SeZleben . arasdros vitovebT im abiturientebs, romelTa gonebriv SesaZleblobebSi darw-munebulebi ar varT. tyuilad fuls ar vaxdevinebT. iseve rogorc yvela msurvelisTvis, abiturientebisTvisac SesaZlebelia, rogorc jgufuri, aseve individualuri mecadineoba, magram jer-jerobiT individualurad swav-leba aravis mouTxovia. jgufSi sul 3-4 abiturienti zis. zogad inglisurSi ki jgufSi msmenelTa raodenoba 10-mde izrdeba.

gvaqvs sazafxulo kursebic. Ziri-Tadad intensiuri swavleba agvistoSi mimdinareobs. am kursis upiratesoba is aris, rom drosTan erTad , fulsac zogavT: erT TveSi sami Tvis programas gadixarT.

xelSekruleba gvaqvs gaformebuli manCesteris skolasTan, varT misi ofi-cialuri war-m o m a d g e n l e b i s a q a r T v e l o S i . SesaZleblobas vaZlevT Cvens msmenelebs ga-iaros praqtika s a z R v a r g a r e T 20%-iani fasdak-lebiT.

Tu Cvenma msmenelma moax-erxa im yvelaf-ris maqsimalur doneze aTviseba, rasac Cven vaswav-liT, garantias vaZlevT, rom inglisuri enis codnis Tvalsaz-risiT, kvali-ficiuri spe-cialistebi wavlen aqedan. amis Tqmis sababs maZlevs Cveni pedagogebis cod-nis da gamocdilebis maRali done, maTi msenelTan damokidebulebis kultura da kolegialoba, romlis gareSec sas-wavlebelSi jansaRi da mSvidi auris Se-qmna, faqtobrivad, SeuZlebeli iqneba.

unda aRvniSno, rom pedagogi samuS-aod maqsimaluri sifrTxiliT agvyavs.

dRes yvela acxadebs, rom ena icis. Sei-Zleba iTqvas, qva rom gadaagdo quCaSi, inglisuri enis mcodnes moxvdebao, ma-gram realuri viTareba sul sxvaa. Tu adamiani skaipSi inglisur enaze komu-nikacias axerxebs, ar niSnavs, rom es ena icis.

TanamSromlis ayvanis dros maqsi-malur yuradRebas profesionalizmTan erTad mis pirovnul Tvisebebs vaqcevT. yofila SemTxveva, ena kargad scodnia adamians, magram pirovnulad ndobis aR-Zvra ver mouxerxebia. Rimili _ es Cveni TanamSromlis aucilebeli atributia. mesmis, rom problema yvelas aqvs ojaxSi, magram roca saxlidan gamovalT, unda movaxerxoT da yvelanairi problema saxlSi davtovoT. sxva SemTxevaSi, saq-mis xarisxianad gakeTebas ver SevZlebT. piradad me namdvilad ar SemiZlia warb-Sekruli adamianis cqera mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi. amasTan, pedagogi aucile-blad kargi mosaubre da mcodne unda iyos. axal TanamSromels vutarebT treningebs, vaZlevT gamosacdel vadas da mxolod amis Semdeg agvyavs samsaxur-Si. CvenTvis mniSvnelovania TiToeuli studentis azri, romelsac maqsimalu-rad viTvaliswinebT. Tumca am etapze SemiZlia Tamamad ganvacxado, rom sak-maod Zlieri pedkoleqtivi gvyavs.

baton giorgisTan saubris Sem-deg ramdenime kiTxviT pedagogebs da msmenelebsac mivmarTe. maT saswavlebe-li zustad iseTive siTboTi da siyvar-uliT daaxasiaTes, rogoric batonma giorgim warmogvidgina.

rogorc Cans, erTmaneTis mimarT ga-momJRavnebuli Tbili damokidebuleba saswavlebelSi Sesuli yvela pirovnebi-sTvis Tvisobrivi xdeba, xolo maT sax-eze asaxuli Rimili Sinagani ganwyobis gamomxatvelia, romelic avtomaturad warmatebis yvelaze mZlavr iaraRad iqceva.

P.S. amjerad, sul es iyo. tradici-uli ganzogadebuli daskvnebis sanacv-lod, analizis da arCevanis gakeTebis saSualebas Tqven gitovebT. Cven moma-valSic gaviTvaliswinebT Tqvens inter-ess da periodulad im dawesebulebebsa Tu saswavlo centrebze mogawvdiT informacias, romelic met-naklebad Tqveni interesis arealSi moxvdeba.

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