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Dakle prvih 200 sati, znaci nekih 10-ak dana, postavi plazmu u Cinema (Filmski) mod rada tako da osvijetljenje bude na 30 i kontrast na 36, defakto koristi tvornički zadane postavke Cinema moda. Slika ti se neće činiti bajna ali budi strpljiv zbog vlastite koristi. Naime prvih 200 sati je bitni kod plazmi da bi se pravilno "formirao" panel... Poslije tog vremena, primjeni postavke za kalibriranu sliku onako kako ja to vidim: Mode: Cinema Contrast: 56 Brightness: -3 Color: 29 Sharpness: 6 za SD, odnosno 7 za HD sadržaj Color Temperature: Warm Color Management: on xvColour: off Eco mod: off Picture Noise: off 3D Comb filter: off ....ili se poigraj sam. Nema na čemu!

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Dakle prvih 200 sati, znaci nekih 10-ak dana, postavi plazmu u Cinema (Filmski) mod rada tako da osvijetljenje bude na 30 i kontrast na 36, defakto koristi tvornički zadane postavke Cinema moda. Slika ti se neće činiti bajna ali budi strpljiv zbog vlastite koristi. Naime prvih 200 sati je bitni kod plazmi da bi se pravilno "formirao" panel...

Poslije tog vremena, primjeni postavke za kalibriranu sliku onako kako ja to vidim:

Mode: CinemaContrast: 56Brightness: -3Color: 29Sharpness: 6 za SD, odnosno 7 za HD sadržajColor Temperature: WarmColor Management: onxvColour: offEco mod: offPicture Noise: off3D Comb filter: off

....ili se poigraj sam.

Nema na čemu!

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Just got my order in for the Panasonic TX-P42X10 so I thought I'd start a thread so we can share thoughts when we get them!

Note: HD Ready/720p/1080i and proud!!! If you are after information on a Full HD/1080p TV then you're in the wrong place!

Edit, 22/04/2009:Please post any chat on prices, price matching or deals in this thread

Edit, 13/03/2009:I've had a scan through pages 1-12 and added the little useful info that's come through into this post. See also our first owners review/initial thoughts thanks to bash. Please PM me if I've missed anything significant.

Edit, 26/02/2009:I set my TV up last night (basic throwing together of all connections and turning settings down for initial 200hrs). I guess others will be getting theirs soon if not already so I think people will now want to start pooling useful information

I've just been looking over at the predecessor thread for the PX80, Panasonic 37/42 PX80 Series Owners thread - Part 1. Audiphile76 did a great job of collating information there, and has set the standard for me to live up to. Only problem is I'm a complete novice with all things AV so I'll probably rely on a lot of you guys to provide useful information. For now, I'm going to copy a lot of the information from the PX80 thread and grey out anything not 100% guaranteed to be valid for the X10s. As more info from users and reviewers comes through we should be able to go back to black with this. Anyway, here goes:

Pictures & Specifications of X10 series Panasonic plasmasTX-P42X10TX-P37X10

Download or view product documentation, drivers or software by selecting product category and model number below: Note X10 not available as at 26/02/2009. I may be able to scan mine but not sure how to get it on here if I do.http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_220239

Other Panasonic plasmas can be found here:News - Latest news - New VIERA Plasma Line-Up - UK & Ireland

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Running-in the setIn order to minimise the risk of image retention (temporary images visible on screen), you need to be careful during the first 200 hours of viewing. When the plasma is initially installed, videophiles say it is best to do the following:

- Do not keep static pictures more than an hour- Keep changing channels occasionally when viewing programs with static and bright logos (Kids program)- Turn down the picture control (contrast and brightness) to 50% or less.- Do no use "Dynamic" or "Normal" (Prefer Cinema Mode). Most importantly, remember to change the mode for each input channel, ie AV1, AV2, PC etc.- Make sure the display is in a viewing mode (aspect ratio) that completely fills the screen (there are often three or more settings from which to choose - Auto, 16:9 or Just) << Check number and names for X10.- Briefly engage the 4:3 mode to confirm the side bars are set to mid-grey (there is usually an adjustment in the Set Up menu that takes the sidebars from black to grey) to minimise the chance of burn-in.- During the first 200 - 300 hours of use it is best not to view the same channel for extended periods. This should prevent channel logos and other fixed images found on some channels from being retained.- Avoid any static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.) during the 200 hour break-in.

After the 200-hour break-in period, during the next nine-hundred hours:

- Continue to retain the picture setting at 50% or less.- Limit the use of 4:3 aspect ratio mode (traditional picture size that does not fill the entire screen) to 15% of viewing time.- Limit the use of static images (computer, video games, etc.) to less than 10% of viewing time.

After one thousand viewing hours, panels are much less likely to experience image burn-in.http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=220

Benefits of zero overscan (Picture Overscan = "Off")http://www.mastersofcinema.org/revie...kingbeyond.htmhttp://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=702

How to check total hours on TV (Do it at your own risk)Thanks to zane0321 for this info. Tested and confirmed working.

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How to check for how long your TX-37PX10 has been on (tested) and how many times it was On/Off:

1. On the TV itself, hold down the “Vol -” button (on the right hand side of TV)2. While holding the volume button down, press “0” on the TV remote three times. Wait. The service menu will load.3. Now press the “2″ button on the remote. This will pull up a window with the word “SRV-TOOL”.4. Press the “OK” button on the remote. A light blue grid will appear.5. On the Grid, move the cursor down (using the remote down arrows) to the row labeled “PTCT”6. Move cursor to the right. It should be an empty box on the grid.7. Hold MUTE for 3 seconds. The amount of time the display has been on will be next to the word “TIME” this is in hours and minutes.

To get out of the service menu, either hold Exit on the remote for 3 seconds or switch off the TV using the on/off on the TV itself.

It very similar to the former post for TC-P50X1 but instead of "info" which resets your set you should press 0.

Note: Not sure if the following is true. If it is, what is the best cleaning method?WARNING: Do NOT clean the frame/bezel or even the screen panel using the microfibre cloth that came with the TV. This causes many scratches on the screen and the bezel.

How to set up the Virgin remote (the interactive service doesn't work and the online seems to be for a different remote)Note: Requirement and method yet to be verified for X10. I don’t have Virgin.1. Press the <*> key and the Settings buttons together.Make sure these a pressed down for at least two seconds. After two seconds the Stand-By button should have flashed GREEN twice.2. Use the number buttons to enter one of three digit codes that match your make of TV (Available Here). You should find that it's 425It's a good idea to start with the first code on the list.3. Press the Select/OK button within 10 seconds to confirm the code.The Stand-By light will flash twice to confirm that the code has been accepted. If a RED light has flashed, this means the code has not been recognised, so check the code and re-enter the correct code by following the steps above.

Try the volume/on off button, should work now

Frequently Asked Questions

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Lets keep this section open and fill it up based on our discussion here.

X10 Series questions:Q1: Does "AUTO" aspect ratio distort the image resulting in loss of PQ?A1: TBCPredecessors: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=342

Q2: Does the set suffer from Screen burn and/or image retention?A2: I imagine this will be the same for X10s. The set definitely does not suffer from any screen burns but some image retention which is temporary in nature and in most cases goes away with time.http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=176 http://www.avforums.com/forums/ showp...&postcount=180http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=228 http://www.avforums.com/forums/ showp...&postcount=414

Need to double check what it says for the X10 but definitely has something along these lines:Panasonic manual (Page 3) states the following:Do not display a still picture for a long time.This causes the image to remain on the plasma screen("image retention").This is not considered a malfunction and is not covered by the warranty. Typical still images:- Program number and other logos.- Image displayed in 4:3 mode.- Video game.- Computer image.

To prevent image retention, contrast is lowered automatically after a few minutes if no signals are sent or no operations are performed.

Q3: Does the set suffer from phosphor lags/green trails?A3: Time will tell. Please post your own experiences

Q4: What are the best scaling settings for BluRay and SD?A4: TBCPredecessors: Discussion here My new TH42PX80

Q5: How can we check the software version on our setsA5: In the setup menu, page 3/3, "System Information" gives the version the set is running on

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Q6: What are the dimensions of the box?A6: Here they are:P42X10: The box dimensions are W 114cm x D 28cm x H 76cm P37X10: TBC

Predecessors:37PX80: The box dimensions are 41in X 29in X 13in (W 105 x D 35 x H 75 in cms)42PX80: The box dimensions are W 114cm x D 33cm x H 79cm

Q7: What are the depth and width of pedestal stands?A7: Here are the dimensions:P42X10: TBC P37X10: TBC

Predecessors:37PX80: Unknown42PX80: 310mm x 447mm

Q8: How do i get the X10 to automatically switch to “AV” when I switch on my dvd, satellite box etc?A8: TBC but seemed to do this by default for me.

Predecessors:PX80B: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=245PX80E: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=931http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=932

Q9: Can you use different settings within a single preset (e.g. CINEMA) on different inputs? For example if you are using CINEMA on both HDMI1 and HDMI2, will a change(in sharpness for example) made in HDMI1 carry over to HDMI2 or can you set them individually?A9: TBC

Predecessors:Any change to CINEMA on one input would affect all other inputs that had CINEMA applied to them. BUT, if different inputs are on different pre-set modes, then they can be set differently and independently.

Q10: Is it possible to default the X10 to one of the hdmi slots or other AV inputs? A10: TBC

Predecessors:Go into the "Setup" menu and change the "Power on Preference" to "AV" (Default is "TV" tuner|)http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=979

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http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=980http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...postcount=1048

Note: This is not available on the European model unfortunately. Search for info about the "Hotel mode" and you should be able to do what you wish, just be careful not to change the settings to do with locking the remote or you will be stuck.http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasm...&postcount=932

Q11: Does the X10 have an optical output? A10: No.

General Plasma TV questions:

Q1: Is it safe to transport the package while laying flat instead of standing upright? If "No", then why not?A1: General consensus is no. See following links.http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=185http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=196http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=192

Q2: There are some minute scratches on the piano black bezel of my Plasma. How to take care of these scratches?A2: General discussion thread here: Removing very fine scratches from piano black bezels

Q3: What quality of HDMI cables for 1-3 meters should i buy? Should i buy the best/most expensive kind inorder to get best quality?A3: Quality of picture with HDMI cables is not proportional to price of HDMI cables

http://www.avforums.com/forums/showt...56#post6688656 http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=54http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=55

Q4: What to do if you experience image retention?A4: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=38http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...41&postcount=6

Q5: Is the composite that comes with Wii better than using the scart connector?A5: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showp...&postcount=339

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Reviews:Note: not necessarily for 37" and 42" X10s at this stage.Panasonic TX-P42X10B plasma TV review - whathifi.com

Panasonic Viera TX-P50X10B Review on CNET.co.uk

Panasonic Viera TX-P37X10 37in Plasma TV Review - TV Reviews - TrustedReviews

Panasonic TX-P42X10 on the german website av-magazin.de

Predecessors http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Panasonic-TH42PX80http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/television...9296024,00.htm

User reviews on avforumsP42X10: TBCP37X10: Nothing through yet but bash has agreed to let me publish the following from his posts in this thread.

bash’s early thoughts during 200hr run in:Whilst there is smaller jump in improvements between the Px10 and Px80 compared to the leap between the PX70 and PX80, there are improvements none the less.

If anything the PX80 was better in pic quality than the PX70 but its speakers were woeful (not a big loss as I expect most users have a 5.1 or better setup). However the Px10 has superior speakers compared to the PX80 and I've found HD material as well as picture movement to have improved also. You could argue this is the TV the PX80 should have been?

Seriously I would be happy to buy a Px10 at RRP over a PX80 at a rock bottom price. It’s a more complete package IMHO. I got my PX10 at £567 and am very pleased.

Have to say I’m finding Eco mode very useful this time around. Before with the PX70/80 it was a set memory setting alongside Dynamic, Normal and Cinema.

With the X10 its actually a mode you can turn on or off for use with Dynamic, Normal and Cinema. So I've been using the recommended cinema settings with Eco on. If I've got the curtains open during the day it brightens up the picture brilliantly but when I turn the lights off during the night it darkens the picture nicely. Makes it easy on the eyes without loss of detail.

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Settings:Freeview and DVD: TBCBluRay: TBCPS3: TBCEtc

Predecessors:http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Panasonic-TH42PX80/Settings