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'l'loo \IWia - \1M -Uoll \bat .. were .. J'Id.Qs oa 4b1.4M

UaoU inte \line ~rl... Bua&l'7, ot _, .. , _. ie a Mjen

\bat .. won• \ talk abo•t.. It .ta all t.ie4 vp in \ba pollt.1oal, -

t.o briac CMit. a ta.1rlT larp .... .,. • t peeple, OD4 1A lllalprla ..

bl'OI&&)It - people nt. INt. there toM poll t..toal 11114 a1ll \&J'7 a.t\ll&t.ien

t.llat \1M 111ll\&J'7 11114 pollUoal a1\Mt..ton \bat. llr. PWIU -u-.4

obaqod np1dlT wllih I wu t.bore 11114 in rln ot t.hat. I t.b1ak \bat.

'1'llrbT ~ pret.v aell aaal.M _,. u a •- ot re-. It. -:r

open vp apJ.n OD4 \bare -:r .UU be - poaaU.1llllia, 0114 ..

bow lett an oraan.taat.ion t.bare t.o .tuaot.ion t or t.bo Joar4 . I tb.lnk

\1M ~t. ot \1M Board in beizl& uaod t.o aaw people at a tiM

wMil a ~ ot peeple .. " beins k11lo4 ie HJ"i&1JJlT a ftlublo t.ll1ai

l at. a tiM llllla t.bie in Dllr bi.oter7·

I tb.1nk U..t ie U.O.t. all I oan 08¥.

Queot.1011t ll&w TOll UJ7 .. u-t.o ot \1M llllllben et people

j tbat .. re brollibt out. t.broll&b tva;r tr.. all \ba oowri•• - t.be

t.ot.alf

llr. 111.reo-...., T .. , 1 tb.1nk ...

I 4o llOt. llllla te Qute a d.treot. ~ on t.bat. be..,..• I

beftD' t 1 t lreab 1A -q .-1n4. I t. .- inte t.bola.oanN.

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<haoaUODI Can 7011 toll u a little bit .,;,.. &boll\ \he olwl&ecl

\ao\ioa in Jllll&&l'ia, who\ 7011 ware doin& t.haro Ul4 who\ bappeDOd

\o it?

Xr. 111HolloaaDa Well, 1ri Blll4!&1'ia \bora ware a IWIIbor of

poop1e .-1D& 011\ \bat wo wore pull ! Dg ooat \hroqb a rallroac1 and

a fw ahlpa 1 Olld it 1a an .nr-o}T c11tfioul\ joO 011\ of war -•

\o do \bat 1 and \be popala\iOD of !IW.&aria \bare 1 \be probl • at \he

lliDo>ri\iaa and \1M .Jon, ran \o - tluq l.1lal 45 1000 poopla \bat

wro boiDg por-t.od and wre nbjac\ to lllroolbara l&n, wb.loh w ro

prot.\7 onere. ADcl tho 8o&rcl ob&Dgad ita nre.\og Ulero ancl wbila

I wu \hero wa c1aoiclac1 \o aaft tho people inaicla of Jllll&aria iAa\.0&4

of briJI&ing til• out 1n dribbloa. ADd tho Bagrianov ~.

which wu. \ban 1n powr1 no pran.1lad 11po11 \o oall a apooi&l aaaaiaD

of ita paru-t. - whiob hac1 buD DO\ oallad, I t.hiilk1 t or abala\

a,_.-- opooll1oall7 to r .. on tbe ... u~nioh lan. ADd thaT c11cl

1 1\1 wbi.oh ...... \bat a popula\iOD O! - 45 1000 pocpla ware NOOUII

I roill.natocl, pu.t back oa their !oat and gi'nD their p.roporl7 ri&hta

&Dd ginn a obanoa \o Nbuild their Una and \o hol,p robllilcl tho

I COIUitey.

I tb.ink t.hat 1n tq report \o Xr. Pahie he - u a aa\\or ot

taot, he authorised rq ortorta 1n that c11rao\ion1 \o aaYo t.ha poop1a

inoiclo \be oOUAt.ey ina\0&4 o! t&ld.ng thoa out .

Q,autiooa lfu that aotioD a cliroat roault. of tho aaU'YiUoa

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to b&ft W. Oon-t call W. epeoi&l. •et1.11& et pvl.iaMnt to­

&et.ber tor tb&t paopeae. It wun•t the ooq thin& it did but it clid

re'fOI<e the lJura. !beae people toc~e¥ - I h&cl a repert Juat be tore I

lett troa - of the ailit&.r7 I*>Ple who bad &OD& iDto Bulpr1a md.

thq repertecl thet the people bad bee abMlute}J' reatore<l te their

tull ri&hbJ thq were &~~tire}J' tree people, tree to roonJ U..ir

tlm4e bad bo&D UDlookedJ the7 were tree to ex.eroiae WI:¥ protuaion,

go iDto aey buaiD,..a, acboole, and eo torth.

Qlaeationr When wu that .... ion ot the pvll-nt oalled?

Mr. JU.ree-.nnr I th1.nlt that waa - tiM 1D the latter pvt

of 11&&1Ut.

Qu .. tion: 'lll1e .\uillet?

Kr. Pahler r ...

Qu .. ttona Juet wb;r and how baa the aitu.ation elwl&ed 1D "rltrlte7 I eo tb&t )'OU can no loaa:er operete through there aa 1011 414f

Mr. Hiraobu.nru Well, the aituation haen't olwl&ed 1n !llrlat7.

!be chan&• 1n the Be.llraM, 1n ~}&aria. ~aria and "'••nla are

not &lll .. ot the GeJw&ne WI:¥ - &Del there are ailituy -·.

Queation: !bere 1e no need to brill& people out e! there _,

ltr • IU.reobu.nn 1 0D the whole 1 I -.lei aq not.

Queationa Well, ltr. Hiraohaann, do TOU intend to go baalc \o

TU.rlllt7 &&aiD?

'b'. IU.recbaannr I thiDic Mr. Pehle can anner that.

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llr. hhl• • llo . We oalle4 llr. 111nomoann baok to.oau" tbe

a.ot1n work 1D that ..,... 11 onr. lie etill han people o.&t there

to toll ... liP on •t 1a J.ett b\tt tbe b~ job 1D Tlarkle7 that oan to.

<lone throll&h fu.rke7 i .a onr with. Tho ~nin& Balkan ~J'T

, whiob 1a tbe rut ot the probl• 11 llt.illa&J'T, which 11 han&!.JI& 1D tbe

b&lanoe ri&bt todq 1t 70U raa4 tba prau th11 JOOrnin&, an4 the

lhangari.&n tb1D& 1a touoh an4 go.

Queationa Is ba goin& onr there, thou&b, - pl.&oe ep.1n

real aoon?

llr. PehJ.aa llo. Wo ha'ftn1 t plane of that ldnd.. We drafted

b1a to 4o a epeo1al job an4 he hal <lone the job.

~ut.1oca He t1n1ahe4 1t up an4 11 goin& book te pr1nte

Ute e&al.Df

llr. PehJ.ea Tea.

Quutiona You Motioned people to follow t.hroNgh 1n· Tlarke7.

Ie that 11J1"1al repraaeotat.1oo of the War Balla&" Board iteel.t -

llr. Pehl•• that'• r~t.

QueaUon: -or WDI'ic tbroqh - other apnaTf

llr. Pehlea •.u, .. han a rapraeentat.1n out there, llr.

K~taki.

Queat1ona In Bulgaria?

lir. Pehl•• llo. In Ankara an4 Ietaobul, Tlarke7.

Quu t iooa Do you oonte.plah 110Ying your work up into lllll&aria

and Rllunia to attwot the situation 1D lilm&&rT 1t poeeible?

llr. Pehle a lo. Bot .. oo thou areu there 11 a battle on and I r

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u:r won that 1\u to .,. dooe in lllaQaU7 or \hat eu .,. 11oM in

lhm&U7 to~ oould ool¥ be dooe thNqll pluee neb u Swit.aerl.AD4.

Yo1.1 oouldn' t set in thrw&h tile 'l'll.ric1Aoh a-•• u:r .. re.

Quutioar llr. llino'-aaa, owld it H ll&id that u a Nnl.t

o! \bot e;n,.... to wbich the Geruu han SOil• in \he Balnne that.

1.n -of tho .. oountriee tlbioh ter UDT, UDT :reare han liMn qld\e

ant1-se.itic there hu b- an Ulprot eat. of tile publlo fHlin& in

tho•• area• s•n.ralJ¥ u a Ne'Cll.tl plue t he work of t.ba War llafll&ee

Board, that the publlo pe;robolog:r on that eubjeot hu illprond?

)(r, llinoJ.amu I clon• t kDow llhet.bar :rou ~ •Me that. a\

th1e date at all. On \he llulgarian t.h1n« n tholl&ht. that wu iapor\an

beO&IlM w bope4 1t -w ut.ablleh a prec..S.n\ er bl.aepriAt for the

next etepe and peu• eo that. 70Qr tire\ •n Hfere llulgari& e1cz-d

an arabtiee - tile tiret thiA& the:r d1cl wu to rnoa their anu-•

.Jewi.eb lalle, The !1ret people who "" womd ott, wre pahed

aroi.IDCI., . t.be t1ret people who "" Jinn baok tlleir tr.o• "• eo it

.... to be pNtt:r losioal.

11r. "-Ill" !hat aonrment that rnolced. \bo .. lalle fall

and wae replaoed b;r uother son.-t wbioh fell, u cl then there b

a third on• wbioh u DOW in po .. r. Tbllt son~t heed o.n Sept._...r

22114 thb ;rev a et.at...nt 11h1oh aq al.Nad;:r han appe&Nd 1n \he

papen here - I aa no\ wre . • • han copiu of 1t 1t :rou want U.

That at.ateMnt, I think, ob&raoterbu tile ohaft&• that 1\u •-

in that area wbeN :rou ha4 n17 ''"" pereeau\1on of lliAori\iu,

And bare b a on aonn.ent that. aa,ye 1n u oft1o1al et&"-t, J

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-.-•!M llalcariall an.-\ bu - olljMt.iM u4 1l1ll. ..a - 4Utiftl,-

l U.a tor \ben 1..,. wbe nail io ~io io PalNUM. 1epft1aa

\Ilea u ~ CI1\1Hu ..,. ei!JoT r.ll ~·• ilia an.r at

1l1ll. "'~~&in ot i11oa ~ ilia\ iii"T ~ 111\11 all len er ftC!Ila.­

iioaa obUpio17 tor all aiUMu ot illo ~.

"!1M an...-n llu ·-JJ o4 all a:al.ubw len ot UIU-

t.ax io ilia a:ioat ot 20 io 25 por ••t ot ilia 'l'alu ot all lfti.all

proport7. !Ilia t.ax, "-ilia tbe NOI&lt ot a Yioau lM, wu

d1oor1aiA&ioq aaaiDat tile.,..,.. !be cxeo .. _, 1l1ll.- "-

' Ntoan.4, but "-• of Jlal&U'i&'a d1t.t1ftl.t t1Aue1al aiiuU•,

noh -t will be iftllatol"l"'d 1nio a aioio lNA ot 411tia1io •kriiT.

"!be 1..,. - ei!JoT 1'llll oqll&lit7 ot ri&)lta, &114 11ft llllller

\lie - OODdiUozul Ul4 in tftoclaa U fk> Otbel' aalcariaD D&\iop•l • . 0

Ill oillal' worcla, tha7 ll&ft &OM all tbe n;r ~ tbe ~.

low, whatbor ;vou &UI NIT• u JOil 8Ug41at, \llat dl&o ta the ut.­

to wJdah \be (Ia- b&ft IlOilO ilioN hu boon a N"ftllAoa fNa

UIU-a.itia, Mbo<l;r &UI N&llJ" ioll illat. •-.y .., tall wlletber

that 1a what. i .a Pilla to bappa, llbathu tbe aoo4a o f ilia\ 1l1ll. 1 dn

1n t.boao oCND\l'ioa. !beN bu abqa "-• a oou14aNitlA _, of

QlloeUont Ill'. · llil'aohnaE, 414 10il II&YO aliT uaiat.Uieo tNa

tba Tlll'ld.ah OaYOrmaat 1lbon roa ftN holpilla tbeao pooplA pt. cnat

•t \De .. , ..... ,

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that. ._ t.llroqll NqlliJ'oecl tM •. .ucl •t u.. ~ anca-at. 1A

ponoitt.iJII tlloa to - 1Aw flaloD7 u4 w be tl"U8JJe$4 UINqh

fi&JoDT, ucl tile Tlarld.ab Oen~ wlallo I •u \M" na •ot.

_.,...u.... !bo•o arrua-t• "" aac~e tlli'OIIIh ov .ueu•••r

st.e1111a.udt. Wo worlatcl "'1'7 oloaelT 'dt.h tile llllbuq. ID taot, I

1 n• attulwcl to it. AD4 U..7 ...... atreM}T .-peraU.,..

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i ...... u.rrbd 011 tbroqll tho cood ottiou ot tho Tlarlc1ab Go"-'' .

1111'. llirooMumo Jo, •· Jo, tlle7 "" OUT1o4 oa ~.

•• a "P"Milt.a\1.,. of til• AMI'icu Go.,._,, tllo war llltfll&e•

Board, nth t.ho a1Abtora ot tho ~ -'1'7• Ill'. rou. aa4 Ilia

8o&rd P'" M &lltllorit7 to cloal 'dtll tile .....;r.

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Mr. lliraal,..,.u And I did d .. l With t bea Pisbt &l.aa&·

().lutiool You dealt with th• dil'ect l,r1

Mr. llireolaan.ol In fluunia and a..lpria,

Mr. Pehle1 And to .... axtent t hl'ougb the International. a.c1

I Crou.

Mr. H1ra"'-nn 1 The Intomati...U 1iec1 Crooe aehd u the 1Ater­

MCI.1.ar)' 1A arr&l\giAB the Metin&••

Mr. Pehlec And the ...tins • ware oolelT oo the pl"d>l• that

tbe Wu iWtu&M Soard wu Ht up to flll'tber . I t ba4 no relatioo

I to other act1Yit1ee whataoeYer.

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Q\aestionc Mr. 1!1rec'-n.o, did you nu han aq direet t&lb

with the Genoan Ambaeaador 1A Turkey?

llr. 111raolllllannc No,

Qlae~ion t Or UJ;f of the German authoritioo t here at all?

Mr. 111raohlll&nnc No,

Qlaoation • How did you &n"'lll&• to pt t o th- with JWZ'

))I'Ohl ... ?

Mr. 111roolllllannc I didn' t du l with the Germane. I - • daalJ.D&

with a.J.cari&Do a11d Rlauniano ancl I dealt with t b- thl'ougb t beil'

llinietar o, the Bl&l&arian lliniahr and tho Rwlanian llinieter.

Those aountr ieo , 70'1 oee, -e not oocupiocl . Then •e a

ldnd of eooperation, not oco~o~pation, 1A t hoae two oountrieo. That

••n 1 t true of Hunaary. And i t waa beoa~o~oe they weren 1 t oa"'..piocl t hot

I wae able to deal with t hoM 111niatera, who had a~o~thorit7 to deal.

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~ .. u.a ou ·JW at. _, u.. ~t.o.p\ \o reub '"- o.r-a -fllr, 111Joao....,a Jo.

Qlloatioru B:r \1M "lulpriu 111Aiater" e4 the "'n'"'NI

llilliet.er" :rou - their dipl-t.io ldnieten 1A !ark~

Mr. llireehr·n•• r ...

QHatioru Do ;rou feel uqtii1Ac tllrt.ber MD llo dono ~ _,. of

'llarlr:q' llr. lift ..... ,

llr. HS.n.-...a IN, I th1Ak tlwre aa:t bo poadbWtioo, It.

1a '"17 4.Ut1ftlt. t.o Jmaw t.Mt. Tbat. 1a -.IQ' u orpld~ioa bu Mea

loft onr u.- \o uplore tbo •t.ter lltnt.r0

Qleatioat Did all retlapoo go to Paleatl.Ao or 414 - -

....- bore NICl o\llor plaooa?

llr." 111n......,a Tile ret.c- tbat. I -.. da&ll.A& wit.b- -"

refla&oM w .. t t.o PalNtiao wb., I wu thwo.

11r; Pobloa Jco - '"''" bore.

Qa•t.ioaa Ill', Ril'e--..,, wllat happenocl to t.bo war I'Ofl&aMe

~ _.. I'NOIIocl t)'oa tbo traaldldoet...U Cup?

llr. 111roe11Mftaa ti'NiociiUoot..U, u ,_ biGW1 I UliAk, ... t.M

...t. eeleltrat.ocl 41•oa-Woot.ocl cup 1A lllalun1t., aDd. tbrooqjl oar

\alko wlth t.t. aa.udu lliAiot.or w _,ocl 1A llaroh to haft tb&t

cup brolna 'liP•

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!be "POI'\1 ~\" had 1llow ~""MI et people dUd "W7 eq.

011s'u1l;r, uo,ooo people_.. 1A the IUip aD4 1\ .. redlaeecl \e

.~o~,ooo 11:r t.lill t.w I aot. \e u. !be:r linn u.at. ...,. "P ...a ... w

-n.r-4 reper\1 ae t.bat. trea t.llo lle4 ero .. , t.bat. U.01o people _..

all releued. aD4 11M t.beir fr1dcw 1.1!. ._.nsa an4 11&4 poe t.o Paloe\iao

0. \111 wa:r baok, I ltopped. at. Paleat.SJ!.o and oao of ,. pvp1111 .. \e

111 •- of t.llo11 people, 18p111•1l:r t.lle ,_..t.en. !lMn _..a

...._. et ell1lAlna \!lat. .._.. 1A t.be frAil.Mailltrl.& Cup t.IIU w _...

' MJ>HiallT ut.eroned. 1a uot I - ........_ of \11oM ell1lb.a 1a

nr:r IM&lt.ll;r and aeUn. An4 I t.lliDk t.h•:r wUl Ill -a t.lla 11'1&\

treecl_.lniAc e1UMU of t.lle arl... Tbo7 han III'Ded. t.lla ricbt. t.o

it..

Qa~a1aou D1cl ,.,. ll;r arq lbueo 111 tbe Ut.tle lloT 1"* opalte

alloa\ a\ 1f7U laat. _,_ .. ,

llr. ll1r1......,.1 l o . I 414n •t. ••• h1a bolt I au lludrlcla of

.u..n. llr. Pollht Ot t.hil P"WJ> t.hat. - balk tr. Trued.Rlllt.ria,

t.be 4§,000, aclT a tr...Uoa _, ae t.o Pal11t.1ne. !be rMt. are 1a

&n·nte \.ocla.T•

llr. llln..._t .hart a f .. \bat. _, 1A t.MN. An4 t.M root.

of LIMa are tr.. 1a a ... , prindJI&ll.T 1A t.M Ide d\111 11111

I .... pen. QaMt.1aat DU 1"* ._., a IIM41.., at. azq pl.aM tv l.uk of J .

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a place t o ta.ke the .. people and tra.nepoJtatioo t&eilltiee einaa the

I Aaaric&n-llritiab &er-.tt

l(r, Peblaa llot rel&tecl to llwi&UT• »ore epeo.iticoa.U.T,

Qll .. ticma In ac•ral.

l(r, Hirao'-noa No, we haven't been bancl1ceppect, bv.t it

oouldD1t hln been dona witbollt an inltna.at ot thb ldncl ot the

Qo.,.rnmont 1 which iapreuocl 00 Otb&r gOTemunh the int.erelt t.hlt. W

I hlcl in t.hlt. llllbjoct. .tncl they saw that. our aovemMnt. wu inhreatocl

in lATina people whoe.,.r they are &net wherOTOr tbq are &net thq

I openocl ~P t he t&Oilltieo. Prior to thlt, they hlcl not. dOila eo,

Question I If& TO you trrT idea bow 111&1\T J ... there Are in ~a

now?

l(r, Hirach.Mnna llo,

Queetiool Kr. Pehle, -..ld you ea;r that the aajor work ot the

Bo:.rd 1e onr now?

Kr. Peblel "ell, ot cour .. , you can look at the aap &nd aM

where our probl- are that we haYe been deal.ing with. Cert&inl,y,

tbe •Jor tuk in RI&Mnia &net lkl.lgaria b OTera the tuk in Fra.nM b

cl"nr b ... ueo we are not t&ldng up tho probl- t.hlt UIIRA &net tho

Intor-Covemaental COMittH a.nd tho priTate agenoiee are going t o

cleal wit.b in liberatoct are&l. That h not ov job, Iooa CAll 1 t aa;r the

work of tbe War Ratugae BolU'C1 1e over 'When tha aituat.ioo in l&ulgary

1 b what it h tocl&,y - i t 11 very bact - nor the o1tuati01l in Slovald.&,

which ia abo t~ very bact, ancl while you hive large IWIIbara ot . peraona in coacantraticm caape ancl in O.rMn .. ocupiecl Poland &net in

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Oerun;r 'llboN livee baa& in the balMce,

Qlleet1on t Ia the l"'t'u&M QllOtl to hl.eetine about. tilled nOOIT

llr, Hi.re~t I W>derehnd that U 11 not ,

Qlleetiont It ie not . Well, &1"1 t here erv plane en t oot t o

llr, Pehlet llo, In other woJ'de, the Oewego ea.p pertoroted a

function which we had in llind, It helped relie't'l t he aUuat1on in

ItalJ', wbbb •aa Y1'1'7 bad at that tiM end which h better todq,

SeconcUy, it created an u..ple 10 t hat " .. r e in a better polition

t o go to ot her cou.ntJ'iee and to iapreu thea, perlicul..aJ'lT in the

llediterranNA area, with the iapoJ'tance with which thil countJ'7 ....

g&J'Cied th11 probl•. But toclq the situation on t1ncling baveca 11,

ot couree, atch bett8J' than it wae t hen at that tiM,

Qllolltian t Will, -.lcl you a~, t hm, llr. Pehle , it waa

JlW'elT a pqehological IIO't'l?

llr. Pehlet I wculcln1t 817 it W&l purel7 a PI7Cholog1cal IIO't'l

becauae it clid bJ'i.n& OYer people, evoo a -u llWiber, cut ot Ital7,

the nUJIIber ot people who """ at that t i.taa hal'cl to place, It atarted

..,.. .. Queat ion t Will, t hen , that pert of it 1a all t iniabed, There

woo 1t be erv ,.,re ccain& O't'll'. Ia that it?

llr. Pehlet There 1a no inclication that ..,ra re.f\lgaee will be

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- f ooCn& to the ~~teet Stat .. becau .. the probl• ot t•por11J7 ba ..... ,

'IIIIich h what .... ,.. ti&hU na t or, 1a eaaect ... .,. coneiderablT in tba

Qu.utiono Ie the Phllippwille Caap in operat ico?

llr. Pebleo llo, it hn1t. There ien1t &117 cup.

I QoauU0111 That 1a one plaN >~here there wu a lUdden intlwt,

llr. Pehleo That '• ri&ht· In Phillppertlle alone there • .,..

j plane to brin& in 10, 000 refupee. In other • orda , •e bad a pl.aoe

there rud.1 to take up t o that ll1lllber, odlioh ~ that there 1a no

I need ot additional banaa hera ,

Ql&aetiono What are t he other hanna?

I lb-. Pahleo Phllippa'lil.le -• the p~ oaa , '1'he tao111t.iu

1 in It&l.T han bean axt.endect C<>naiderablT eo a large nlllli>ar ot people

~ 01111 be \&lien care ot there. The Jugoalarla aituat ion baa b .. n chanaect

.., that the now trc. Jll&oalarla to It.&lT and out ot It.&l.T baa dwindl

and u aooa u Jll&oalorla 1a liber ated that aituatioa w1ll be oYer

'ldth.

Qoaaetioao Ia t he idea t o aand all thou retq .. a that • ­

hare and -t to Paleatine back to their or1&1nal oountrba?

llr, Pehlel I think 011 the >~bole the people that _.t to

Palaatin• waat t heM u a penunent haven. The7 ... t theM 'ldth the

intaatioa ot etll7iJ1g there t or the roat ot their llv... And thq•

uan' t llrla& in oupaJ tha7 .,.. tindin& Joba, tit.t.in& t.haualTea into

--1111°ll.1 t.iaa. The onlT &J"'UP that •- hera ot IUl7 ooaaequenee 1a the

&rOUP t hat are at o ... , o . Tho•• people ••r• brouaht hare with the

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W>dllrlrt.and1fla that t b.,. wolll.ct be pnn a t.-por&rJ' hann and with the

1claa that at\v hootill\1 ....... O'fU' tb4T 1IOIIl.ct ao baak.

~eation 1 Ie that tNe ot the ll..titerranean eountr1 .. whiah era

open1aa up now?

llr. Pel\lel On the ..tlole llediterranean, all oountr1•• which are

ocU,y taldn& theea people ttoii)OrarilJ' and ldth the plan that. th.,. 1dll

so baolt at\er the war or lind - plaoa tdlere t hey oan be perunentl7

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olrt.tlecl, there ...,. eount rieo that 110Uld otter • ._ hann to tt­

perunent.l7 •

Queet1on 1 Are rou lOt. ill ••ndin& people to tho<oe lloeeo lello

llr. Pehlel I don It th1nk there ..... 11&11¥ people soin« to t hoee

lloaeo W.Uo and t ho .. CMP41 wre larselJ' han ao tor the Jugoal.an an4

the Creeka. 'l'bat now hao prett;r -u etopped and, ot oourae, with

c:r .. ce and ~oal.a'fia rap1dJ.7 bein& lil>entecl t he tlow 1dll oocn be

in the other clirection. Tho•• people 1dll so back to their booMland.

~ntion• Oneso waa part1all;r an .,.,...pla t o Sout h Aaerica,

wuo't it'/ ~d rou cot 8117 reaponae7

llr. Pehle1 I 110Uldn't ·~ it wu ver;r t.portant ldth re1ard

~ to an uaDple tor South Aaarica beoau.ae O...so wu not an ex.upla of

~ perunaat eettl-t. It. wu an example ot tald.ns care of thooe

people t-rar117. !!» Min place t hat could be clone 1o in the

llecl1terranMA area, &lthougb ll.exico did so &loa& and It¥ tbe;r were

11ill1n1 to etrt. up a tree port too, aocl there u:t be .,.. other Lat1n

Aaarican CO\Illt.r111 . !!» principal probl• witb tlw Latin Aaericaa

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C4Uilt.rie• -ud be a ~.,t. reaet.t.l_,t. Jll'Obl••

Qu .. u,,.u Do fOil t.hinlc U b neeeuar,y now t.o ••t. up t.MPOJ'&r.Y

abalt.era iD Paleat.iD• - I bellen there 1a a r.,.olut.ion before t.be

Conarau t.o that. att ect. - aiDoe a sooct 1W17 people -

Ill". Pabl.e t I dolabt. it. •

(After a paa•• ·) Ia there anyt.ldns alee?

(llo reepanae, )

TllanU • let..

(llbareupon, at. Ut)O a ,a,, t.b. eont....,ce aDded. in intor.al

converaat.ion ott t.he record,)

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