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November 2003 doc.: IEEE 802.11-03/853r1

IEEE P802.11Wireless LANs

Tentative Minutes of the IEEE P802.11 Full Working Group

November 10-14, 2003

Hyatt Regency Albuquerque, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

Joint 802.11 / 802.15 Opening Plenary: Monday, Nov 10, 20031.1. Introduction

1.1.1. Meeting called to order by Stuart J. Kerry at 1:35PM. 1.1.2. Straw Poll – new members at this meeting: 541.1.3. The agenda of the 82nd session of 802.11 is in doc: IEEE 11-03-

805r2. This session is including 802.11, 802.15, 802.18 RREG TAG, 802.19 Coexistence TAG, and 802.20 MBWA.

1.1.4. Secretary – Tim Godfrey

1.2. Announcements1.2.1. The chair of 802.19, Jim Lansford has resigned. The Chair pro-tem

is Steve Shellhammer. Volunteers for the position are solicited.1.2.2. There are 462 people present in the room.

1.3. Policies and procedures1.3.1. Al Petrick reviews document 802.11-00/278r8

1.3.1.1. Review of WG officers and duties.1.3.1.2. Operating policies and procedures and the hierarchy of organizations

and rules are reviewed. The source documents are listed in document 278r8, and available on our server. 1.3.1.2.1. 802.18 has approved policies and procedures, and they

will be updated in January.1.3.1.3. Rules for registration, photography, and media recording are

presented.1.3.1.3.1. Going forward, it will be required to have your badge and

voting token to be recorded in a vote.

Minutes page 1 Tim Godfrey, GlobespanVirata


1.3.1.4. Review of the electronic attendance logging rules. Contact information must be maintained up to date by members on the server.

1.3.1.5. The rules for gaining and maintaining voting rights are presented. Document 462r14 “New Members Orientation” has further details.

1.3.1.6. The rules for voting rights and participation in working group, task groups, and study groups is reviewed.

1.3.1.7. Review of individual membership and anti-trust rules.1.3.1.8. Al Petrick reviews the rules on Patents, according to the standard

bylaws. All members must be aware of this policy. Al Petrick reads the following text to the group:

6. Patents

IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either

a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or

b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination

This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.

IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards

Slide #1 Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002

Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings

Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions

Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share

Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation

Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.

If you have questions,contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administratorat [email protected]

Slide #2 Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002



1.3.1.9. Al Petrick reviews the rules on copyrights. 1.3.1.10. Questions

1.3.1.10.1. Should email addresses be in the minutes? No.

1.4. IP Statements1.4.1.1. Do any of the WG chairs need to be aware of any new IP

statements?1.4.1.1.1. None

1.5. Announcements1.5.1. Network support is by registration1.5.2. The chair notes that these are public spaces, and members should

not leave computers unattended.1.5.3. Questions from the floor:

1.5.3.1. Where are these presentations located? In the Incoming folder of 802wirelessworld.com for 802.11.

1.6. Approval of the Agenda1.6.1. Stuart J. Kerry reviews the agenda in 802.11-03/805r2.1.6.2. The agenda is approved with unanimous consent

1.7. Approval of minutes1.7.1. Any matters arising from the minutes from Singapore1.7.2. The minutes are approved without objection.

1.8. Wireless Network and Attendance system1.8.1. Al Petrick reviews the network and attendance recording

procedures in document 03/044r51.8.2. Documents are available by FTP and HTTP1.8.3. Al Petrick presents a tutorial on using the attendance recording

software, and submitting documents.1.8.4. Members are notified that they must have up to date virus and

worm protection. 1.8.5. Questions

1.8.5.1. How long will it take to move documents submitted here to be available on the Internet at the IEEE site? We expect the server to be on-line next week. We will move all files late Friday, and they should be available Saturday.

1.8.5.2. What if an email address is changed? Notify Al Petrick for 802.11. 1.8.6. Members are notified that you will show as “new members” in the

software. We still do not have the voter status records loaded into the new software.

1.9. Interim Meetings for 20041.9.1. January 11-16, 2004, Vancouver, BC. Originally it was the Fairmont

hotel. Now we have added the Hyatt as an additional hotel. The wireless groups will be located in Hyatt.

1.9.2. Finding Hosts has become difficult. We need help for hosts to 2004. We cannot move directly to self-funded hosting of Interims. There is potential financial risk.



1.9.3. May 9-14, 2004. Host Appairent Technologies. Possibilities are Hyatt Anaheim or Hyatt Irvine. Straw Poll - 423 for Anaheim, 73 for Irvine. The meeting is at Anaheim. 802.16 may join us.

1.9.4. September 12-17, 2004. Two choices. Esterel Hotel, Berlin, or the Hyatt Monterey. Meetings at Berlin would be more expensive for the registration fee – probably $500 registration fee. Straw Poll. 269 Berlin, 145 Monterey.

1.9.5. There has been an offer from CRL in Japan. That was not an option because there is not enough time to set it up, and we would require major sponsorship to offset the much higher costs.

1.10. PARs on the ExCom agenda1.10.1. We have to reply on new PARs for each WG by 5:00PM

Tuesday.1.10.2. 802.3 10GbaseT1.10.3. 802 Handoff WG1.10.4. 802.1 Higher Layer LAN Protocols Working Group

1.11. Financials1.11.1.Bob Heile presents the financials on behalf of 802.11 and 802.151.11.2.Updating from September to November 2003. 1.11.3.There are reserves for software development and 802 auditing. 1.11.4.We have a new account that complies with policies and

procedures. We will transfer funds from the custodial account. 1.11.5.The deficit from Singapore will be about $20K.1.11.6.We have purchased a server for about $35001.11.7.The current account balance is about $79K, but will be down to

$8700 by May 2004.1.11.8.There can be no further unplanned expenditures between now and

the May 2004 meeting.1.11.9.Report from the IEEE audit of the custodial accounts. The appraisal

was that the accounts were in compliance with procedures, and adequately documented.

1.11.10. The financial summary document is posted in the 802.11/15 websites. We have also posted the contract for the software development.

1.11.11. Questions1.11.11.1. What are the executive committees for 802.11 and 802.15? The

CACs (WG officers, TG chairs and vice chairs, and treasurers)

1.12. Report from 802 Executive Committee1.12.1. There were 1375 attendees in San Francisco. 1.12.2. “Get 802” pilot program ends in May 2004. 1.12.3. There are tutorials tonight and tomorrow night.



1.12.4. Looking at alternative organizations. The ExCom is considering splitting the organization to help with logistics to compensate the very large size of all of IEEE 802.

1.12.5. Working on a joint press release on network support services.

1.12.6. The officers of 802.20 were confirmed. Some ExCom members felt that IEEE did not fully indemnify them. Those members left the room during the confirmation vote.

1.13. Activities and plans for the week1.13.1. 802.11 Voter Summary

1.13.1.1. Document 01/402r151.13.1.2. 454 voters to date1.13.1.3. 107 nearly voters1.13.1.4. Potentially 5611.13.1.5. 462 aspirants1.13.1.6. Questions?

1.13.1.6.1. Of the 562, how many companies are represented? The membership is individual, not by company.

1.13.2. 802.15 Voter summary1.13.2.1. 186 voters to date1.13.2.2. 75 nearly voters1.13.2.3. 133 aspirant1.13.2.4. 262 potentially

1.13.3. 802.18 voters1.13.3.1. About 10

1.13.4. 802.20 voters1.13.4.1. 180 voters.

1.14. Approval of 802.11 agenda1.14.1.1. Any objection to adopting the agenda?



1.14.1.1.1. Request an agenda item for UWB ITU? Will be done on Wednesday in New Business.

1.14.1.1.2. Any other changes? None1.14.1.2. The agenda is adopted with unanimous consent.

1.14.2. Review of minutes from 802.11 minutes from SFO1.14.2.1. Minutes are adopted without objection

1.14.3. A vote will take place on Friday to update the 802.15 rules

1.15. 802.11 documentation update1.15.1. Harry Worstell cannot monitor document formatting any

more. The chairs of the working groups are responsible. Anyone can identify a document that is not formatted correctly (as per the Policies and Procedures) and prohibit presentation until the formatting is corrected.

1.16. Task Groups1.16.1. TGe – John Fakatselis

1.16.1.1. TGe will continue with comment resolutions from the last letter ballot. There have been teleconferences and an interim TGe meeting. All comments except 100 have been resolved. We plan to complete them this week and conduct a recirculation ballot this week. We expect 90% approval.

1.16.2. TGi - Dave Halasz1.16.2.1. Draft 7 had 95% approval. Planning to go to Sponsor Ballot. There

are 14 voters that have voted No. Some have changed their votes, and others will be talked to this week.

1.16.2.2. WAPI (Chinese security standard) will be discussed on Wednesday. There will be submission. There are political issues and questions that are still unanswered.

1.16.2.3. Discussion1.16.2.3.1. There is a web page with information on WAPI. Will pass

information to Dave Halasz for 802.11i1.16.3. TGj – Sheung Li

1.16.3.1. At Singapore, all comments from LB 6 have been resolved. There are two drafts that can resolve them all, but they have not been voted on. One will be selected at this meeting, and issue a recirculation ballot.

1.16.4. TGk – Richard Paine1.16.4.1. We had a requirement to work on the MIBs. An ad-hoc meeting

generated some proposals. There will be a vote for a new Secretary. There will be technical presentations, and a LB vote. Issues are signal quality measurement.

1.16.5. TGm – Bob O’Hara



1.16.5.1. Will address one interpretation request. Will proceed to the work items in the spreadsheet distributed in Singapore.

1.16.6. TGn – Matthew Shoemake1.16.6.1. Will be working on selection procedure, finalize channel models, and

work on functional requirements and comparison criteria. Will not be able to complete until January. Will draft a call for proposals, and draft timelines for declaring intent to bring proposals. There will not be a CFP at this meeting. There are a large number of submissions that will be presented.

1.16.7. WNG – TK Tan1.16.7.1. Will have 5 sessions. Topics will be ESS mesh networking, wireless

performance prediction, and wireless InterWorking. Also presentations on Security, and updates from liaisons.

1.16.7.2. The WG chair notes that the WNG will review their charter and report to the CAC on Thursday

1.16.8. Fast roaming SG – Clint Chaplin1.16.8.1. Meeting for the first time Tuesday. Working on PAR and 5C. Agenda

in Doc 866. Will ask for extension of SG lifetime. Call for proposals for PAR and 5C.

1.16.9. WAVE SG – Lee Armstrong1.16.9.1. Meeting Tuesday and all day Thursday. Have received input on PAR

and 5C, will be modifying this meeting. 1.16.10. Technical Editor – Terry Cole

1.16.10.1. Doc 197r5. Coordination session on Tuesday for all TG editors. 802.11h is published and shipping. The 2003 reaffirmation CD is available. Notes that some members have signed in with bogus names. These cannot be published with standards, so they were deleted. Task Groups need to decide if a draft needs to be published.

1.16.10.2. Discussion1.16.10.2.1. The reaffirmed 2003 version that is available has a

problem. The CD version given out here is missing chapter 17. 1.16.11. Liaison Letter from IST-Romantic project. From Barcelona

Spain. 1.16.11.1. Stuart Kerry reads this letter: This project wishes to liaison with

802.11. The aim of Romantic is regarding resource management in multi-hop networks. For 3G and 4G networks. It would be of benefit to them to have access to the latest drafts of 802.11. In exchange, the project will present results to 802.11 at an appropriate time.



1.16.12.1.16.13. 802.15 TG3

1.16.13.1. TG3 will meet on Thursday. Will look at MAC enhancements or errata in the standard. Will propose a SG on MAC enhancements. 802.15.3 –2002 is on the CD. (really 2003)

1.16.14. 802.15.3a – Bob Heile1.16.14.1. In the downselect process. Reset to Step 4. There are two remaining

proposals. They will be downselected this week.1.16.15. 802.15.4 – Pat Kinney

1.16.15.1. Looking at MAC enhancements for security and performance. Also looking at alternative PHY layers.

1.16.16. 802.15 SG4a – Larry Taylor1.16.16.1. Reviewing proposals for CFA that closed before this meeting. There

are 3 proposals. 1.16.17. 802.15 MMwave SG – Reed FIsher

1.16.17.1. Meeting on Monday, and Thursday. 1.16.18. Publicity – Glenn Roberts1.16.19. Presentations from packet pools, Wimax, and other liaisons. Review of

802.11 and 802.15 in the media. Review news bulletin. 1.16.20. 802.15.1a – Tom Seip1.16.21. Will review the material in hand, and create a draft. Will conduct LB

between meetings.1.16.22. 802.18 – Carl Stephenson

1.16.22.1. Presentation in 802.18-03-0661.16.22.2. Preparing replay comments and filings for FCC. Opposition for high

power UWB radar. Will prepare regulatory documents. Issues – R&O on 5GHz NPRM, NPRM on RF exposure, NPRM on part 15 revisions. ITU-R UWB – FCC is exporting UWB rules internationally. ITU is looking at protection mechanisms for UWB. Still looking at 802.11d passive scanning issues, and WAPI standard.

1.16.23. 802.20 – Jerry Upton1.16.23.1. Have formed 4 correspondence groups. Anyone can join the reflector

lists. Will review requirements documents, modeling, and coexistence issues. Will have contributions and new business.

1.16.23.2. Questions1.16.23.2.1. What is 802.20 really about? It is a high speed mobility

MAC and PHY, for fast handoff while moving. Better than other mobile cellular systems. It looks like a high data rate cellular system. Licensed bands only below 3.5GHz.

1.16.24. Announcements 1.16.24.1. Remember to sign in. We no longer accept forgotten sign-ins. 1.16.24.2. The slots are all two hours long starting this week. All sessions are

equal1.16.24.3. Discussion



1.16.24.3.1. People have difficulty signing on to the 802wirelessworld site. The help desk has not been able to fix.

1.16.24.3.2. We will fix up people that have problems signing in.1.16.24.4. The IEEE SA board maintains a list of those that want to participate

in Sponsor Ballots.

1.17. Recess at 3:15PM

2. Wednesday Plenary, November 12, 20032.1. Opening

2.1.1. The meeting is called to order by Stuart J. Kerry at 10:50AM. Following the agenda in 04/805r2.

2.1.2. Changes to agenda – 802 policy and procedure, virus update, TGi Position on WAPI, Position on IST Romantic/Spain. New business: special event, UWB position in ITU, Mesh networking, Wireless prediction, TGi, Members information.

2.1.3. There are 455 members in the room.

2.2. IP Statements2.2.1. The chair calls for any IP statements. There are none.2.2.2. The chair asks if any members are not aware of the IEEE IP policy.

There are none.

2.3. Announcements2.3.1. TGm has adjourned for the week. There is one item for business on

Friday.2.3.2. CAC meeting at 7:00AM

2.4. Attendance Recording2.4.1. Problems yesterday have been resolved.

2.5. Approval of the agenda2.5.1. Any changes to the agenda? None.2.5.2. The agenda is adopted with unanimous consent

2.6. Liaison Reports



2.6.1. 802.11 to 802.1 – Dave Halasz2.6.1.1. None

2.6.2. 802.11 to 802.15 – Mike Seals2.6.2.1. None – 2nd call

2.6.3. 802.11 to 802.15 3a – Atul Garg2.6.3.1. None – 2nd call

2.6.4. 802.11 to 802.18 - Denis K2.6.4.1. Later

2.6.5. 802.11 to WiFi alliance – Bill Carney2.6.5.1. Presentation in document 03/903. 2.6.5.2. Passed milestone of 1000 certified products. 15 per week for

certification. 4 labs are running. More dual-band submissions. There are 4 certification programs. WPA and 802.11g are the latest this year. 2.6.5.2.1. The Chair notes that PC Magazine has put 802.11g up

for an award at Comdex. 2.6.5.3. WPA2 will be the same as 802.11i, planned for 2Q 2004. 2.6.5.4. WFA is preparing for QoS certification. MRD has been created, and

the test plans are under development. Looking an mid 2004 for QoS certification. There is a backup plan in case 802.11e is delayed. A pre-standard certification plan will be decided in March 2004 if necessary.

2.6.5.5. A recent group has started to look at 802.11n2.6.6. 802.11 to JEDEC JC61 – Tim Wakeley

2.6.6.1. Report in document 03/9482.6.6.2. No presentation.

2.6.7. 802.11 to CableLabs – Lior Ophir2.6.7.1. None – 2nd call

2.6.8. 802.11 to IETF – Dorothy Stanley



2.6.8.1. Presentation in document 03/9232.6.8.2. 802.11i dependencies – depending on AES/CCM specification. Now

RFC3610. Also depending on RFC2284bis. Has completed balloting and will be issued an RFC before completion of 802.11i.

2.6.8.3. BOFs – controlled provisioning of APs; Charter has changed. 2.6.8.4. Radius extensions – new WG may be formed. 802.11i met with EAP

keying group. 2.6.8.5. We are looking into whether liaison can be two-ways. We are trying

to get links to IETF documents on our web site.2.6.9. 802.11 to MMAC – Inoue-san

2.6.9.1. Report in document number 03/9412.6.9.2. MMAC controls Japanese standards for radio systems. High Speed

Wireless access committee, and Wireless Home Link Committee. ARIB-standard T71 created January 2003 for 802.11a compatible WLANs. Will be compatible with 802.11j.

2.7. Old business2.7.1. Policies and Procedures

2.7.1.1. Document 03/9462.7.1.2. Current P&P in 00/331r4. added changes from document 02/434r1.

00/331r6 was presented in July and posted on the server. 2.7.1.3. Al Petrick reviews the changes to the P&P as detailed in document

02/434r1. 2.7.1.4. Version r6 added P&P and the WG Treasury as approved by the WG

and in accordance with the Executive Committee.2.7.1.5. Motion: Move to approve document 00/331r6 as the policies and

procedures for the 802.11 working group.2.7.1.5.1. Moved Al Petrick2.7.1.5.2. Second Harry Worstell2.7.1.5.3. Discussion

2.7.1.5.3.1. in 3.6.3 teleconferences there is a limitation of every other week. But many groups have teleconferences weekly. Requests a change in the document to use the word “weekly”.

2.7.1.5.3.2. The chair asks if there is any objection to make the change of bi-weekly to weekly. No Objection.

2.7.1.5.3.3. The document under consideration is changed to 00/331r7



2.7.1.6. Motion on the floor: Move to approve document 00/331r7 as the policies and procedures for the 802.11 working group.2.7.1.6.1. Vote: Motion passes 129 : 0 : 5.

2.7.1.7. Version r7 of the P&P will be posted by the end of the day. The member making the change will verify the update.

2.7.2. Virus Protection Policies2.7.2.1. We want to create a policy based on the discussion from the floor in

Singapore.2.7.2.2. A small group will meet off-line to make recommendations to be

brought up by Friday. 2.7.2.3. Will meet at the IEEE registration desk at the break.2.7.2.4. This will be added to the Friday Agenda

2.7.3. TGi position with WAPI – Dave Halasz2.7.3.1. Document 913r02.7.3.2. China WLAN standards (WAPI) become compulsory December 1st

2003. The security mechanisms are different than 802.11i and WPA. These security mechanisms are not described.

2.7.3.3. 802.11i experts from WiFi Alliance met with Chinese officials to share concerns regarding the WAPI standard. The Chinese SAC was not willing to delay the date, but would delay the onset of enforcement.

2.7.3.4. The security algorithm is not in the WAPI specification. The parameters are not finalized yet. The algorithm is not available to companies that are not Chinese. There was no specific solution offered for non-Chinese companies.

2.7.3.5. There may be efforts to harmonize the standards at some point in time.

2.7.3.6. The following letter was read by Stuart J. Kerry to the body:



2.7.3.7. Position statement in the 802.11i task group.


Meimei DangTransmission and Access Research DepartmentInstitute of Communication Standards Research,CATR11 Yue Tan Nan JieBeijing,100045, [email protected]

Stuart KerryChairman, IEEE 802.11 Working Groupc/o Philips Semiconductors, Inc.1109 McKay Drive, M/S 48A SJ,San Jose, CA [email protected]

Dear Stuart,

My name is Dang Meimei. I work in the Institute of Communication Standards Research in the China Academy of Telecommunication Research within the Ministry of Information Industry (MII). I am the managing engineer of transmission and access research department. As the first drafter and the leader, I am responsible for completing research on CCSA’s public wireless LAN (PWLAN) standard, which may potentially be adopted as a national PWLAN standard for China. We are interested in the use of IEEE 802.11 including its supplements for the MAC and PHY layers in our proposed standard. We are especially interested in 802.11i security model. To get the recent developments of 802.11 standard and assist our efforts of developing China PWLAN standards, we would like to request a formal liaison relationship with the 802.11 working group. We feel that this relationship would be beneficial to both organizations by allowing us to more freely exchange information on each of our efforts. From CCSA, I would propose that I be the liaison for our organization. Please let us know if the IEEE 802.11 working group is interested in establishing this relationship between our two organizations and can approve the formation of a formal liaison.

Best Regards,

Dang MeimeiNov 11th,2003


2.7.3.8.

November 2003

D. Stanley, Agere, A. Khieu, HP, D. Halasz, CiscoSlide 2

doc.: IEEE 802.11-03/910r1

Submission

WAPI position• IEEE 802.11i was chartered by IEEE to specify MAC

enhancements for security – Plan to enter Sponsor Ballot November 2003– Ratification expected March/June 2004

• ISO has adopted IEEE 802.11 as an International Standard– IEEE 802.11 intends to advance the IEEE 802.11i amendment as

an ISO international standard

• The IEEE 802.11 process accommodates regulatory requirements– IEEE 802.11h and IEEE 802.11j for European and Japanese

regulatory requirements– Chinese security regulations could be similarly addressed

2.7.3.9. Motion: In regards to the Chinese national WLAN standards referred to as WAPI, Move to adopt document 03/910r1 as the Working Group’s position regarding WAPI.2.7.3.9.1. Moved Dave Halasz on behalf of TGi2.7.3.9.2. Discussion

2.7.3.9.2.1. Request for a recap of the position. 2.7.3.9.2.2. Terry Cole reports that ISO is in full support of

this position statement. 2.7.3.9.2.3. Carl Stephenson 802.18 chair, has been working

with Dept of Commerce to prepare a letter to the Chinese encouraging them to open the standard. Wants to coordinate with that letter that will be brought the to closing plenary. The WG chair says it is appropriate to do both.

2.7.3.9.2.4. The motion is amended to document r1.2.7.3.9.3. Vote: Passes 131 : 0 : 4

2.7.4. Liaison Statement from Romantic Spain2.7.4.1. The purpose is resource management for multi-hop networks.

Richard Paine has requested clarification on what they want. 2.7.4.2. Richard will liaison with Brian Matthews of Publicity.

2.8. New Business2.8.1. Special Event – 802.11h publication.

2.8.1.1. Stuart Kerry presents awards for the publication of 802.11h. A round of applause for Mika Kasslin, the TGh chair for his work. John Terry accepts an award for Mika Kasslin.

2.8.1.2. In addition, awards are presented to Andrew Myles, Simon Black, Terry Cole, and Al Petrick.

2.8.1.3. Certificates are presented to Peter Ecclesine, Christopher Hansen, Amjad Soomro, Evan Green, for their contributions to 802.11h.

2.8.2. UWB Position in ITU – Carl Stephenson2.8.2.1. TG18 met in ITUR. Discussed the needed protection criteria for

RLAN stations that have a primary allocation at 5GHz. 2.8.2.2. 802.11a has a primary allocation in ITU, entitling protection from

services with lower regulatory status. A group of 802.11 experts needs to contribute a recommendation to ITU.

2.8.2.3. In addition 802.15.3a members will be allowed to participate as observers, but will not have veto power.



2.8.2.4. This group will meet today at 2:30 today in the 802.18 session. 2.8.2.5. The objective is to determine what acceptable levels of interference

are for 802.11a RLANs. 2.8.2.6. The proposal will be brought to the Friday plenary authorizing 802.18

to prepare a submission to ITU-R and seek approval from 802 ExCom. 2.8.2.7. Al Petrick will represent the 802.11 chair at the meeting today.

2.8.3. ESS Mesh Network Study Group motion2.8.3.1. TK Tan reviews the contributions and discussions from Singapore.

The WNG group passed a motion to direct the WG to form a study group for ESS Mesh.

2.8.3.2. The vote will take place on Friday in the WNG motions time.2.8.3.3. The WG chair asks for volunteers. Steven Connor is a volunteer for

SG chair. Any other volunteers should contact Stuart Kerry.2.8.3.4. WNG also discussed Wireless Performance Prediction. A motion

passed to form a Wireless Performance Prediction SG. The vote will take place Friday.

2.8.3.5. We have a volunteer – Steve Berger. Other volunteers contact Stuart Kerry.

2.8.4. Pass Phrase for TGi2.8.4.1. Dave Halasz presents a response to the press articles on the use of

a pass phrase in the 802.11i draft. Document 03/932 The issue is the length of pre-shared keys. It is a matter of appropriate application of keys for the use. The draft already states the recommended length of the key. This paper calls attention to the appropriate sections in the draft.

2.8.4.2. The security characteristics of 802.11i are well understood.2.8.4.3. Motion: In regards to the article,

http://www.wifinetnews.com/archives/002452.html, move to adopt document 03/932r1 as the Working Group’s position.2.8.4.3.1. Moved Dave Halasz on behalf of TGi. 2.8.4.3.2. Discussion – none2.8.4.3.3. Vote: Motion passes 118 : 0 : 6

2.8.5. Members Information2.8.5.1. Frank Howley gives a brief presentation on the inclusion of member

information, including contact information, in the WG minutes. There was a reflector message on this topic yesterday. This group has over 560 members, and it becomes difficult to work with members between meetings. We have stopped providing member’s contact information. Suggests that contact information be provided again for members who are willing to share it.

2.8.5.2. Stuart Kerry decides that this a procedural action, and has the right to decide it. He decides in favor of the motion and states that this will be forwarded directly to the Executive Committee on Friday. The ExCom still has the right to accept or reject.

2.8.5.3. Al Petrick states that the history has been that we present contact information. We were told by ExCom that we should not because of privacy issues. Only the IEEE maintains the contact information so they can contact individuals.

2.8.5.4. Stuart reaffirms that we will take this to the Executive Committee.2.8.5.5. Discussion2.8.5.6. In the past, we distributed the contact information on paper.

Comfortable with distributing the information in PDF format.2.8.5.7. We do need to be sure that it is not misused for commercial

purposes.


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2.8.5.8. Supports releasing it in the format of Excel spreadsheet. There is no practical way to prevent misuse.

2.8.5.9. Would like the motion put to the body. 2.8.5.10. The WG chair says the motion is out of order because the matter is

already decided.2.8.5.11. States that work in TGn has been impacted by lack of contact

information. Perhaps access could be limited to members only. 2.8.5.12. Study Groups collect members names with contact information. 2.8.5.13. LMSC also has to monitor for any one group dominating the

proceedings. 2.8.5.14. Would it be helpful to get a show of support within 802.11. 2.8.5.15. If we provide information, it should be in the form of PDF that does

not allow text cut and paste.2.8.5.16. Straw Poll – are members in favor of providing contact information?

154 for, 19 against, 18 abstain2.8.6. Recess at 12:30 PM

2.8.6.1.2.8.6.2.

3. Closing Plenary, November 14, 20033.1. Opening

3.1.1. The meeting is called to order at 8:20AM by Stuart J. Kerry. The agenda is in 03/805r2.

3.2. Agenda3.2.1. The chair reviews the agenda for today’s session. We will finish at

12:30PM at the latest today.3.2.2. Any objection to adopt the agenda as presented? No objection.3.2.3. The agenda is adopted with unanimous consent

3.3. Announcements3.3.1. The CAC agenda has been posted.3.3.2. The TG minutes are due one week after this meeting.3.3.3. The WG chair asks for the group’s reaction to the even 2 hour slot

change at this meeting?3.3.3.1. When we overlap with groups that do not have the same meeting,

we need to adjust the timing of the food and drink at breaks.3.3.4. The WG chair encourages the group to bring new activities to the

group so we can continue development, and as time is available as TG’s complete.

3.3.5. The letter from Romantic has been transcribed and loaded on the server as document 975.

3.3.6. There is a consideration of splitting 802 into wired and wireless sub groups to improve logistics. Another possibility is to improve the policies and procedures of 802 to make it work better.

3.3.7. The Executive Committee will be on-site in January. Discussions will continue there

3.3.8. Request for links on our reflector to items on the executive committee pages that relate to the splitting topic.



3.4. IP Statements3.4.1. The chair calls for any new IP statements. There are none.3.4.2. The chair asks if anyone is not aware of the IEEE IP policies? None

3.5. Documentation update3.5.1. The system is working well. It is the members responsibility to

ensure that the formatting is correct.3.5.2. We are over 900 documents for the year so far. 3.5.3. The policies and procedures require 4 hour posting in advance

3.6. Reports3.6.1. TGe – John Fakatselis

3.6.1.1. Report in 03/9773.6.1.2. We have completed all resolutions for LB59. Draft 6.0 has been

approved for recirculation3.6.1.3. We are requesting LMSC procedure 10 to expedite the process.3.6.1.4. John explains the plan of procedure 10 so everyone can be prepared

for the votes in the motions section. It prevents waiting for the next Executive Committee to get approved for Sponsor Ballot.

3.6.1.5. The last condition requires that the recirculation not have any technical changes before going to sponsor ballot. We don’t know what the comments will be. The group can decide to leave 6.0 without changes and move forward with sponsor ballot.

3.6.1.6. If we have comments that require changes, we will follow a different path with interim meetings between meetings in January and February.

3.6.1.7. Next meeting objective will review comments from Recirculation – either forward to Sponsor Ballot, or recirculation

3.6.2. TGi – Dave Halasz3.6.2.1. Report in document 03/9753.6.2.2. Will proceed to Sponsor Ballot3.6.2.3. LB62 had 95% approval. Editorial comments were addressed.3.6.2.4. 11 of 14 no voters changed to Yes votes.3.6.2.5. WAPI status and position are reflected in document 913 and 910.3.6.2.6. Next meeting will address comments from sponsor ballot.

3.6.3. Special Recognition 3.6.3.1. There was an error in the awards for TGh. The chair recognizes Carl

Temme as the Study Group chair of TGh.3.6.4. TGj – Sheung Li

3.6.4.1. Report in document 03/799r03.6.4.2. Adopted draft 1.23.6.4.3. Comment resolutions in 03/337r63.6.4.4. Will request a recirculation ballot. There will be a motion to approve

resolutions, and invoke LMSC procedure 10 to go to Sponsor ballot3.6.5. TGk – Richard Paine

3.6.5.1. Report in document 03/979r13.6.5.2. Voted and accepted a MIB3.6.5.3. Group did not vote to go to Letter Ballot3.6.5.4. Remaining issues – signal quality, and security of action frames.



3.6.5.5. Objectives of January – clean up specification, prepare for Letter Ballot in March.

3.6.5.6. Will conduct weekly teleconferences Starting Dec 3rd.3.6.6. TGm – Bob O’Hara

3.6.6.1. Report in document 03/874r03.6.6.2. Meeting was dedicated to resolving one interpretation request

related to key mapping. Response in document 03/875.3.6.6.3. Will continue to address items from document 03/619 with other

maintenance items. Volunteers are requested to help on these items.3.6.6.4. Harry Worstell shows that the interpretations are posted on our web

site. It is under “Working Group” on the drop down menu, listed as “Interpretations”.

3.6.7. TGn – Garth Hillman3.6.7.1. Report in document 03/962r03.6.7.2. There were 20 general submissions3.6.7.3. Minutes in 831r03.6.7.4. Approved channel models, elected chair of functional requirements

and comparison criteria3.6.7.5. Usage models in 03/802r63.6.7.6. Usage models and functional requirements were not adopted.3.6.7.7. Comparison criteria were not started, will be picked up in January3.6.7.8. Call For Proposals will be issues when these preceding steps are

complete. Not before the end of the January meeting.3.6.7.9. Teleconferences will be held for the FRCC committee.

3.6.8. Publicity – Brian Mathews3.6.8.1. Report in document 03/9763.6.8.2. Received reports from trade groups. 3.6.8.3. WiMedia report in 15-03-485r0.



3.6.8.4. WiFi alliance report in 03/9033.6.8.5. Received a report from Via Licensing3.6.8.6. Reviewed PSK usage white paper, WAPI standards activity and

position, 3.6.8.7. The chair ask if there are any objections to moving up the ANA item

to now?3.6.8.7.1. No Objection

3.6.9. ANA Report – Duncan Kitchin3.6.9.1. There was a request for 6 status codes for TGe. It has been issued

in R10 of the document.3.6.9.2. Other requests can be processed by email to Duncan Kitchin.

3.6.10. WNG SC – TK Tan3.6.10.1. Report in document 03/849r13.6.10.2. Covered wireless InterWorking, ESS mesh networking, Wireless

performance prediction.3.6.10.3. Will request formation of a SG for ESS mesh networking. 3.6.10.4. Review scope and plans for ESS Mesh SG. 3.6.10.5. Will move to form a study group on Wireless Performance Prediction

(WPP). 3.6.10.6. Intention is to standardize prediction and evaluating WLAN systems.

Hoping to establish common metrics and test methodology. 3.6.10.7. There was discussion on the differences between WPP and TGk. 3.6.10.8. Discussion

3.6.10.8.1. The primary purpose for the meeting with TGk was to potentially form another Task Group. TGk was looking to manage the wireless network as part of a wired network. The straw poll (57 : 1) to form a new SG of TGk. They are complementary to the WPP activities.

3.6.11.Fast Roaming SG – Clint Chaplin3.6.11.1. Report in document 03/9783.6.11.2. Voted to accept a draft PAR and 5C



3.6.11.3. Study Group will be extended.3.6.11.4. Further changes to PAR and 5C will be accepted in January. They

will be forwarded for approval out the January meeting.3.6.11.5. The chair asks if there are any volunteers for the chair of the Fast

Roaming SG. None.3.6.11.6. Stuart Kerry appoints Clint Chaplin as the chair of the Fast Roaming

Study Group. The body accepts the appointment by acclamation.3.6.12. Wave SG – Lee Armstrong

3.6.12.1. The meeting this week was spent on refining the PAR and 5C. The output documents are PAR in 03/943r4 and 5C in 03/967r3

3.6.12.2. There will be a motion to accept these documents.3.6.12.3. In January group will continue to review the technical details of

requirements3.6.13. WG Technical Editor – Terry Cole

3.6.13.1. Report in 03/197r63.6.13.2. Will be working with TGe and TGi and TGj as they enter Sponsor

Ballot and move towards publication.3.6.13.3. Editors met and held tutorial on FrameMaker.3.6.13.4. The WG chair notes that Terry Cole was given an award for his

contribution in the 2003 edition of 802.113.6.13.5. Discussion

3.6.13.5.1. Is the 802.11-2003 version available? The 2003 edition is available for sale in the “value pack” In addition the original documents are included. It is $150. Includes an interactive PICS form and merged SDL files and compile-able MIB.

3.6.13.5.2. In the private members area of 802.11 the “802.11 compilation” is available to voting members.

3.6.14. 802.18 RR TAG – Carl Stevenson3.6.14.1. Report in document 802.18-03-0763.6.14.2. Prepared regulatory documents for FCC activities. Unanimously

approved by 802.16 and 802.15. 3.6.14.3. Approved letter from 802 to China on WAPI. 3.6.14.4. Will bring motion on protection criteria for RLANs to ITU.



3.6.14.5. Approved SG to study use of unoccupied TV spectrum by unlicensed devices.

3.6.15. 802.19 Coex TAG – Steve Shellhammer3.6.15.1. Report in document 802.19-03-030r33.6.15.2. Jim Lansford has stepped down, and Steve is acting interim chair. 3.6.15.3. Re-evaluated TAG charter – simplified and clarified. 3.6.15.4. Developed proposals for LMSC policies and procedures, for the

steps wireless groups would follow to ensure coexistence while developing standards. Will develop guidelines to predict interference. Will offer technical opinion on interference analysis on request of ExCom or wireless working groups. This would be done on a draft.

3.6.15.5. Will meet two times in Vancouver. Need volunteers to work on this. Have about 6, want to get above 10 people.

3.6.15.6. Discussion3.6.15.6.1. Request that 802.19 liaison with 802.18. There will be

liaisons to all wireless working groups.

3.7. Standing Orders – Motions3.7.1. TGe

3.7.1.1. Motion to enable the editor to produce 802.11e draft 6.0 based on the comment resolutions in 11-03/658r17 and, authorize a 15-day LB recirculation of 802.11 TGe draft 6.0 to conclude no later than 12/20/2003.3.7.1.1.1. Moved John Fakatselis on behalf of TGe3.7.1.1.2. The WG Vice Chair is able to initiate the ballot in that

time frame3.7.1.1.3. Discussion

3.7.1.1.3.1. None3.7.1.1.4. Vote on the motion: passes 103 : 0 : 1

3.7.1.2. Move to Request approval of a SB for draft 802.11e 6.0 by ExCom using LMSC Procedure 10 assuming that the conditions required for procedure 10 are met.3.7.1.2.1. Moved John Fakatselis on behalf of TGe3.7.1.2.2. Vote on the motion: passes 106 : 0 : 1

3.7.1.3. Move to Authorize TGE to hold an interim meeting for the week of February 16, 2004 to resolve comments from the most recent 802.11e recirculation ballots, and to initiate any follow on letter ballots after resolving those comments as required.



3.7.1.3.1. Moved John Fakatselis on behalf of TGe3.7.1.3.2. Motion passes with unanimous consent

3.7.1.4. Move to Authorize the 802.11 January 2004 interim meeting to resolve comments from the most recent 802.11e recirculation ballot and to initiate any follow on letter ballots after resolving those comments.3.7.1.4.1. Moved John Fakatselis on behalf of TGe3.7.1.4.2. Motion passes with unanimous consent

3.7.2. TGi3.7.2.1. Motion: Believing that comment responses in the document 03/842r3

and the IEEE 802.11i draft 7.0 demonstrate that the IEEE 802.11 WG Letter Ballot rules have reached an orderly endpoint, approve comment responses in document 03/842r3 and request the IEEE 802.11 WG Chair to move the IEEE 802.11i draft 7.0 to Sponsor Ballot at the Excom meeting on November 14th, 2003.3.7.2.1.1. Moved Dave Halasz on behalf of TGi3.7.2.1.2. Vote on the motion: Passes 110 : 0 : 0

3.7.2.2. Motion: Request the IEEE 802.11 Working Group chair to make the IEEE 802.11i draft 3.0 available for purchase even when future IEEE 802.11i drafts and IEEE 802.11 standards are available.3.7.2.2.1. Moved Dave Halasz on behalf of TGi3.7.2.2.2. Discussion

3.7.2.2.2.1. Inquiring: Explain the rationale. The WiFi Alliance WPA references this draft.

3.7.2.2.2.2. Against: 802.11i has said that the content of D3.0 is obsolete. We should make the statement that compliance is based on the current, correct drafts. The WFA should work out a way to make it available privately.

3.7.2.2.2.3. In favor: everyone knows it takes years to get a standard approved. We need a way to get implementers to bring to market things that are not yet final standards. We might as well state our approval here.

3.7.2.2.3. Move to table until the IEEE and WFA can get together and discuss.3.7.2.2.3.1. Moved Harry Worstell3.7.2.2.3.2. Second Bob O’Hara3.7.2.2.3.3. Vote: Passes: 49 : 30 : 29

3.7.2.2.4. The WG chair will take this to the 802 chair and request an official position

3.7.2.3. Move to empower TGi to hold meetings beginning in January 2004 as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Sponsor Ballot re-circulation process, including creating and issuing drafts for Sponsor Ballot re-circulation, conducting teleconferences, and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process.



3.7.2.3.1. Moved Dave Halasz on behalf of TGi3.7.2.3.2. The motion is approved by unanimous consent.

3.7.3. TGj3.7.3.1. Motion: Believing that comment responses in the document

mentioned below and the draft mentioned below 802.11j draft 1.2 demonstrate that the WG 802.11 LB rules have reached an orderly endpoint, approve comment responses in 11-03/337R6.3.7.3.1.1. Moved Sheung Li on behalf of TGj3.7.3.1.2. The motion is approved by unanimous consent

3.7.3.2. Motion: Believing that comment responses in 11-03/337R6 and the draft mentioned below satisfy WG 802.11 rules for letter ballot recirculation and that a recirculation will likely result in approval of the draft, authorize a 40-day LB recirculation of 802.11j draft 1.2 to conclude no later than 1/9/2004 and request approval of a SB for draft 1.2 by ExCom using Procedure 10.3.7.3.2.1. Moved Sheung Li on behalf of TGj3.7.3.2.2. Sheung notes that the LB is for 40 days to allow

members more time to familiarize themselves with the contents. Broady Cash will be present at the ExCom meeting to represent this motion.

3.7.3.2.3. Discussion3.7.3.2.3.1. Do we need additional language for procedure

10? No – it is well-known and specific.3.7.3.2.4. Vote on the motion: Passes 94 : 0 : 6

3.7.3.3. Move to authorize the 802.11 January 2004 interim meeting to resolve comments from the most recent 802.11j recirculation ballot and to initiate any follow on letter ballots after resolving those comments3.7.3.3.1. Moved Sheung Li on behalf of TGj3.7.3.3.2. Motion passes by unanimous consent

3.7.4. TGk3.7.4.1. Move to authorize TGk to hold weekly teleconferences in 2004 from

Jan 1 until 30 days after the March plenary.3.7.4.1.1. Moved Richard Paine3.7.4.1.2. Seconded Peter Ecclesine3.7.4.1.3. Discussion

3.7.4.1.3.1. Is this required in the new P&P? The chair affirms that it is.



3.7.4.1.4. The motion passes with unanimous consent3.7.5. TGm

3.7.5.1. Motion: to request the working group to accept and forward the interpretation response contained in document 03-875r0 to Linda Gargiulo at the IEEE office as the official response of the 802.11 working group.3.7.5.1.1. Moved Bob O’Hara on behalf of TGm3.7.5.1.2. The motion is passed with unanimous consent.

3.7.6. WNG3.7.6.1. Move that WNG request 802.11 Working Group to form a Study

Group for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh.3.7.6.1.1. Moved TK Tan on behalf of WNG3.7.6.1.2. Discussion

3.7.6.1.2.1. Regarding work going on at 802. ExCom level. Do we have the appropriate scope within 802.11 and within 802? Coordination is needed, but this is an SG, where the scope will be defined.

3.7.6.1.2.2. The chair recommends that a SG is appropriate3.7.6.1.3. Vote on the motion: passes 88 : 4 : 17

3.7.6.2. Move that WNG request 802.11 Working Group to form a Study Group for Wireless Performance Prediction (WPP)3.7.6.2.1. Moved TK Tan on behalf of WNG3.7.6.2.2. Discussion

3.7.6.2.2.1. We have a lot of Study Groups. This is not a protocol change, but testing. This work should be done elsewhere.

3.7.6.2.2.2. This is appropriate for 802.11. It will not produce a standard, just recommended practices.

3.7.6.2.2.3. Against: but would support if limited in scope to performance of the MAC. The chair notes that the scope will be addressed in the SG.

3.7.6.2.2.4. Supports: this is the group that has the expertise to formulate metrics.

3.7.6.2.2.5. In favor: SGs are appropriate to explore the possibilities and sort out the scope.

3.7.6.2.2.6. In favor: it is premature to judge the outcome of the SG before it starts. It is a relevant topic.



3.7.6.2.2.7. Against: the WG needs to make standards, not comparison protocols.

3.7.6.2.2.8. For: the SG determines whether there is a need. Not all SGs result in a TG. We are not limited to layers 1 and 2.

3.7.6.2.3. Call the question (Harry Worstell / John Kowalski)3.7.6.2.3.1.1. Vote on calling the question: Passes

77 : 14 : 53.7.6.2.4. Vote on the motion: Passes 66 : 30 : 23

3.7.7. Recess for 30 minute break

3.8. Standing Orders – Motions – continued3.8.1. Fast Roaming SG

3.8.1.1. Request the IEEE 802.11 Working Group to extend the Fast Roaming Study Group for another 6 months3.8.1.1.1. Moved Clint Chaplin on behalf of FRSG3.8.1.1.2. Discussion

3.8.1.1.2.1. Don’t the LMSC rules say that SG’s exist from Plenary to Plenary? Yes, but this one is running out of time due to the delayed start.

3.8.1.1.3. Motion is passed with unanimous consent.3.8.2. Special announcement

3.8.2.1. Denis Kuahara expresses thanks for the concern and support of the body over the accident of his wife.

3.8.3. WG Motions 3.8.3.1. Move to operate the IEEE 802.11 Working Group with a treasury, per

policies and procedures of November 12, 2003, document 00/331r7 section 2.11, item 1.3.8.3.1.1. Moved Harry Worstell 3.8.3.1.2. Second Carl Stevenson3.8.3.1.3. Discussion

3.8.3.1.3.1. This enables us to host our own interim meetings, and fund internal activities.



3.8.3.1.3.2. The chair notes that this brings us fully in alignment with 802 LMAC Policies and Procedures. We have a joint bank account with 802.15.

3.8.3.1.3.3. The signatures on the account are Stuart Kerry, Bob Heile, Paul Nicolich, and the IEEE contracts administrator.

3.8.3.1.3.4. Is 802.15 doing the same process and voting? Yes. We will hold the bank account, and also host 802.18 and 802.19.

3.8.3.1.4. Vote on the motion: passes 84 : 0 : 03.8.3.2. The WG chair notes that now we have a treasury, we need a

treasurer. Bill Carney has volunteered for this position. It is an appointed position by the chair.

3.8.3.3. Harry Worstell and Al Petrick will reverse roles. 3.8.3.4. Al Petrick will handle policies and treasurer pro-tem.3.8.3.5. Harry Worstell will handle attendance, ballots, and documentation.3.8.3.6. Stuart Kerry appoints Al Petrick as the treasurer for 802.11.3.8.3.7. Is there any objection?

3.8.3.7.1. Is that pro-tem or permanent? It is until March 2004.3.8.3.8. The body accepts Al Petrick as treasurer by acclamation.

3.8.4. 802.18 motions3.8.4.1. Motion to approve document 18-03-0072-01-0000-RR-

TAG_reply_comments_to_ET 03-137.doc, authorizing the Chair of 802.18 to do necessary editorial and formatting changes, seek EC approval as an 802 document, and file the document in a timely fashion with the FCC.3.8.4.1.1. Moved Carl Stevenson3.8.4.1.2. Second Denis Kuahara3.8.4.1.3. Motion is approved by unanimous consent

3.8.4.2. To approve document 18-03-0073-00-0000_Cmts_ET_03-201_Pt15.doc, authorizing the Chair of 802.18 to do necessary editorial and formatting changes, seek EC approval as an 802 document, and file the document in a timely fashion with the FCC.3.8.4.2.1. Moved Carl Stevenson3.8.4.2.2. Second Denis Kuahara3.8.4.2.3. Motion is approved by unanimous consent



3.8.4.3. Motion to approve document 18-03-0077-00-0000_WAPI_letter_To_China.doc, authorizing the Chair of 802.18 to do necessary editorial and formatting changes, seek EC approval as an 802 document, and deliver the letter in a timely fashion on behalf of 802 as delegated by the Chair.3.8.4.3.1. Moved Carl Stevenson3.8.4.3.2. Second Dave Halasz3.8.4.3.3. Motion is approved by unanimous consent

3.8.4.4. Motion to authorize the Chair of 802.18 to seek EC approval to craft an appropriately formatted (ITU-R format) input contribution for the upcoming meetings of ITU-R JRG 8A/9B and WP8A that accurately embodies the substance of the RLAN protection criteria agreement embodied in document 18-03-0078-00-0000_RLAN_protection_criteria.doc, and to submit the document to the ITU-R on behalf of IEEE 802 and present and advocate for it from the floor during the ITU-R meetings as necessary. 3.8.4.4.1. Moved Carl Stevenson3.8.4.4.2. Second Denis Kuahara3.8.4.4.3. Discussion

3.8.4.4.3.1. Was this also discussed in 802.15? What was the reaction? This document is the minutes of the joint meeting of 802.18 with experts from 802.11 and from 802.15. The 802.15 members were asked if they felt this was reasonable, and they were in favor. The motion passed unanimously in 802.15.

3.8.4.4.4. Motion is approved by unanimous consent3.8.4.4.4.1. Spectrum in the US is difficult to come by. The

FCC has approved 255 MHz of spectrum in the UNII band. Carl has been instrumental in helping this process. The group gives Carl Stevenson a round of applause

3.8.5. WAVE3.8.5.1. Move to approve the PAR document IEEE 802.11-03/0943r4, and 5

Criteria document IEEE 802.11-03/0967r3, for WAVE, and forward to ExCom for Approval.3.8.5.1.1. Moved Lee Armstrong on behalf of WAVE SG3.8.5.1.2. Discussion

3.8.5.1.2.1. The chair notes that the ExCom approval will be in March 2004

3.8.5.1.3. Vote on the motion: Passes 60 : 3 : 16.3.8.5.1.4. Discussion3.8.5.1.5. Is this technical or procedural. The chair notes that the

LMSC rules say PAR approvals require 75%.3.8.5.2. Moved: In order to accelerate the development of the document

proposed in the WAVE PAR (IEEE 802.11-03/0943r4 ), move that the WG extend the SG for another six months and authorize the WAVE SG to undertake investigative work beginning at the January meeting.3.8.5.2.1. Moved Lee Armstrong



3.8.5.2.2. Discussion3.8.5.2.2.1. 6 months would take you past the May meeting,

and this TG would meet in May.3.8.5.2.2.2. The ExCom authorizes the 6 month extension.

3.8.5.2.3. Vote on the motion: Passes 64 : 0 : 8

3.9. WG Reports3.9.1. Virus protection policy.

3.9.1.1. Al Petrick presents document 03/981r0. This action was a response to the actions initiated in September.

3.9.1.2. 5% of the attendees were infected with viruses and worms. 11 of the 48 infected people didn’t come forth. 5 of them had no virus protection, the remaining had not updated.

3.9.1.3. Virus protection with current updates, MS patches, and personal firewalls are all necessary.

3.9.1.4. We will continue to monitor the level of infections. We will provide a notice to member to remind them to ensure their security protections are up to date and active.

3.9.1.5. If problems increase, we will institute more restrictive policies and procedures.

3.9.1.6. Rather than wait until January, could we publish information on the reflector? To help members get updated.

3.9.1.7. Some members are limited by IT departments regarding what they can install. How important are the personal firewalls? We will look into this.

3.9.1.8. Recommend that this on the session info page when registration is done for the meetings.

3.9.1.9. What action was taken when members were found to be infected? We trap clients that are probing IP addresses. They are shown a message when they try to log in.

3.10. New Business3.10.1. Publicity

3.10.1.1. Authorization of external communication3.10.1.2. Document 9873.10.1.3. Motion: Noting that the document 11-03-0910r1 has been approved

as a WG position on WAPI, approve transmission of aforementioned document to a representative of the CCSA standards project in China responsible for developing WAPI.3.10.1.3.1. Moved Brian Mathews



3.10.1.3.2. Second Carl Stevenson3.10.1.3.3. Discussion

3.10.1.3.3.1. Do we need ExCom approval for this action? This will be from the WG chair. It will be posted with the 802 chair. Other letters from other wireless WGs will be added to this.

3.10.1.3.4. The motion is approved with unanimous consent3.10.2. Technical Editor

3.10.2.1. Information item: There have been questions about the relation with ISO. Terry Cole has started correspondence with Robin Tasker on the topic. He informs us that the approval process in ISO is a 2 step process. There are 2 ballots – a procedural check (Concluding Nov 28th), followed by a 90 day discussion ballot for comment. The results are forwarded to the 802.11 WG, where we resolve comments.

3.10.2.2. Discussion3.10.2.2.1. Could that information be written up and put on the

server, and posted to the reflector?3.10.2.2.2. Yes – Terry is somewhat reluctant to quote rules of

another group, but will provide something.3.10.3. 802.18

3.10.3.1. Information item: Carl Stevenson states the ITU-R council approved IEEE as a fee-waived sector membership which will allow us to input contributions into the ITU-R process as we see fit. We no longer have to have sponsoring member states. This will benefit IEEE substantially.

3.10.3.2. Discussion3.10.3.2.1. Will we gain access to ITU documentation? We are in

the process. We will need a member to manage the account. Carl Stevenson has offered to fulfill that role.

3.10.4. Discussion of 802.11i D3.03.10.4.1. Stuart Kerry reviews the vote of the body on the vote on this topic.3.10.4.2. Jerry Walker of the IEEE staff says that we can make both draft

version available. 3.10.4.3. This group tabled the motion because of dissenting views. 3.10.4.4. It appears that the IEEE has a new flexibility on the matter. 3.10.4.5. This will be brought up in the 802 ExCom meeting this afternoon.

3.11. Next Meeting3.11.1.The next meeting of 802.11 is January 11-16, 2004, at the Hyatt

Regency Vancouver, Vancouver, BC, Canada. The discount link for booking is not yet available.

3.12. The meeting is adjourned at 11:36AM
