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Indholdsfortegnelse Side

Kort overblik 2

Pippijn II Van Parijs og ? Van Italië 4

Kildemateriale 8

Fortsættes på side 1 Ane nr. 56361161400/56361161401

1761286293

3522572587

14090290350

7045145175

28180580700/28180580701

880643146 Bernhart II Billung

Pippijn II Van Parijs & ? Van Italië

Hildegard von Stade

Judith Von Wetterau

Adela Van Vermandois

Heribert I Vermandois

Bernhard Van Italië

&

Cunigonde ?

Ida Van Saksen 440321573

Henri Van Namen 220160786

Beatrice Van Namen 110080393

Godevaart I V.Breda 55040196

Goodevaart II Breda 27520098

Sofie Van Breda 13760049

Joannes van Gavere – Eksaerde 6880024

Wilhelmus Van Gavere – Eksaarde 3440012

Willem Van Gavere 1720006

Kathelijne Van Gavere - Haasdonk 860003

Katelijne Hutzers - Haasdonk 430001

Willem Scoemaekers 215000

Petrus Scoemaekers 107500

Petrus Scoemaekers 53750

Livine Scoemakere 26875

Margriete V. Couteren – Sint-Niklaas 13437

Dierik Ver Braecken – Sint-Niklaas 6718

Johanna Ver Braken – Sint-Niklaas 3359

Catharina De Maere – Tielrode 1679

Amelberga Vernimmen - Thielrode 839 Marie Anne Smedt - Thielrode 419

Anne Petron. Everaert – Thielrode 209

Robert Van Landeghem – Thielrode 104

Bruno Van Landeghem – Thielrode 52

Julien Van Landeghem – Thielrode 26

Christ. V. Landeghem – Boom 13

Emiel Jan Person – Antwerpen 6

Louisa Augusta Person – Åbyhøj 3

Grete A./Emil H. Sørensen - Lind/Værløse 1

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Fortsat fra side 0

Ane nr.

112722322802/

112722322803

Heribert ? og ?

Ane nr.

901178686036/

901178686037

112722322800

Karel De Grote og

Hildegau Van Vinzgau

Pippijn I Van Italië

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PIPPIJN II VAN PARIJS & ? VAN ITALIË

Pippijn II Van Parijs er født omkring 830 som søn af Bernhard Van

Italië og Cunigonde ?. Hans fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at

opspore.

? Van Italië´s er født omkring 830. Hendes fødested og forældre er

det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore.

Pippijn II Van Parijs og ? Van Italië får 3 børn.

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Pippijn II Van Parijs og ? Van Italië

Pippijn II Van Parijs og ? Van Italië bosætter sig formentlig i

St. Quentin-området.

Her får de følgende børn:

1. 860, ca. - Heribert I Van Vermandois

2. 8xx, - Bernhard Van Parijs

3. 8xx, - Pippijn Van Parijs.

Pippijn II Van Parijs er i en årrække lensherre for Peronne og St.

Quentin.

Sønnen Heribert I Van Vermandois (ane nr. 14090290350) gifter sig

med Bertha Van Morvois (ane nr. 14090290351).

De får 3 børn:

Beatrix Adela -, Heribert II - og Cunigunda Van Vermandois.

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Forældre til Pippijn II Van Parijs (ane nr.

56361161400/56361161401):

Bernhard Van Italië og Cunigonde ?

Bernhard Van Italië er født omkring 800 som søn af Pippijn I Der

Franken og Chrotais Van Italië. Hans fødested er det endnu ikke

lykkedes at opspore.

Cunigonde ? er født omkring 800 som datter af Heribert ? og ? .

Hendes fødested er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore.

Bernhard Van Italië og Cunigonde ? får 1 søn:

Pippijn II Van Parijs.

Bernhard Van Italië er i en årrække konge af Italien.

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Forældre til Bernhard Van Italië (ane nr.

112722322800/112722322801):

Pippijn I Van Italië og Chrothais Van Italië

Pippijn I (Karloman) Van Italië er født omkring 777 som søn af

Karel de Grote og Hildegard Van Vinzgau. Hans fødested er det

endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore.

Chrothais Van Italië født omkring 780. Hendes fødested og forældre

er det endnu ikke lykkedes at opspore.

Pippijn I Van Italië og Chrothais Van Italië får følgende børn:

Bernhard, Adelaid, Adula, Guntrada og Bertraide Van Italië.

Pippijn I Van Italië er i en årrække konge af Italien.

Pippijn I Van Italië er før eller efter giftermålet med Chrothais

Van Italië formentlig gift med Bertha ? (se ane nr. 225444645202-

225444645203).

Forældre til Cunigonde ? (ane nr. 112722322802/112722322803):

Heribert ? og ?

Forældre til Pippijn Van Italië (ane nr.

225444645600/1225444645600):

Se ane nr. 901178686036/901178686037.

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Kildemateriale for ane nr. 28180580700/28180580701

Kildemateriale 1: Voort359/Familien Van Parijs

http://home.planet.nl/~voort359/home3brabt.htmlChild of

Vermandois was a county in the north of present-day France,

flanked by Normandy in the west and Champagne in the east. The

ruling family were descendants of Charlemagne and the later

Karolingians.

Child of

Pépin of Karolingians (of Senlis) (before 818-after 840)

and Rothaide of Bobbio (?-?):

Héribert I, Count of Vermandois

* 844 ?

x I. Richilde (869 ?),

x II. Bertha of Morvois (before 880) + 6-11-907.

Héribert became Count of Méaux and Soissons, and later, in 896, he

was made Count of Vermandois.

He was murdered on orders from Boudewijn II, Count of Flanders.

Kildemateriale 2: Wissenburg/Familien Van Parijs

83.111.527.092 Pippijn der FRANKEN

Familienaam • Index 83.111.527.092 • Vader 166.223.054.184 •

Moeder 166.223.054.185

Geboren voor 818

Overleden na 840

Heer van Peronne en St. Quentin

Huwt ca. 835

83.111.527.093 N. van VERMANDOIS

Familienaam • Index 83.111.527.093 • Vader onbekend • Moeder

onbekend

Geboren rond 820

Overleden rond 850, ongeveer 30 jaar oud

Haar herkomst is onzeker.

Kinderen:

1. Bernhard (*845 +na 878) 2. Pippijn (*845 +na 28-1-893) 3. Heribert I van Vermandois Zie 41.555.763.546

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Kildemateriale 3: Kareldegrote/Familien Van Parijs

http://home.planet.nl/~prin2855/kareldegrote/d1.htm#c14533

Karel De Grote = Første generation.

4. Generation:

42. Pippijn II Van Parijs Der Franken was born before 818 and died

after 840.

General Notes: Graaf ten noorden van de Seine 834-840, heer van

Péronne-St. Quintin.

Pippijn married N.N. Van Italië about 835. N.N. was born about 820

and died about 850 about age 30.

The child from this marriage was:

84 M i. Heribert I Van Vermandois was born about 840 and died on 6

Nov 907 about age 67.

Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Graaf van Soissons, Graaf van Vermandois en

Liedgardis.

Heribert married Bertha Van Morvois, daughter of Ranulf I Van

Aquitanië Poitiers and Blichilde Van Maine, about 880. Bertha was

born about 850 and died about 907 about age 57.

Kildemateriale 4: Herweijer/Familien Van Parijs

http://www.herweijer.org/maris/maris.htm

76810212 PIPPIJN II, heer van Péronne en St. Quentin, geboren vóór

818, overleden na 840, zoon van BERNHARD (zie 153620424) en

KUNIGUNDE (zie 153620425).

Kildemateriale 5: Wikipedia/Familien Van Parijs

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppijn_van_Parijs

Peppijn van Parijs (815 - ca. 840) was een zoon van Bernard van

Italië en van Cunigonde. In 936 verliet Peppijn Italië en trok hij

naar Neustrië, nadat hij keizerin Judith uit de kloostergevangenis

bevrijd had. Lodewijk de Vrome bedankte hem daarvoor met

belangrijke bezittingen in de buurt van Parijs.

Zijn kindereren waren:

Bernard (845-893), graaf van Laon

Peppijn (845-893), graaf rond Parijs

Herbert I van Vermandois (840-902).

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Kildemateriale 6: MedLands/Familien Van Parijs

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#_Toc21910606

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NORTHERN FRANCE, nobility

Chapter 12. COMTES de VERMANDOIS

The county of Vermandois was formed by Héribert, a descendant of

the early Carolingian kings of Italy whose direct ancestors had

established themselves as counts in the area north of Paris.

Héribert acquired Vermandois and Saint-Quentin in 896, followed by

Soissons in 898 [921]. His son count Héribert [II] acquired

control over the archbishopric of Reims by engineering the

appointment of his infant son as archbishop in 925. He also

acquired Amiens, the Vexin and Artois, although these territories

were disputed by Arnoul I Count of Flanders. The rivalry between

the counts of Vermandois and the counts of Flanders was triggered

in 896 by the murder of the brother of Baudouin II Count of

Flanders by the forces of count Héribert [I]. It persisted

throughout the first half of the 10th century. The two power-bases

appear to have been fairly evenly balanced, the result being that

neither was able to dominate the whole of northern France. Another

factor which must have rendered domination by either side more

difficult was that the territory of the bishopric of Cambrai,

directly north of Vermandois and south of Flanders, had been

allocated to Lotharingia under the 843 treaty of Verdun, while the

rest of northern France fell within the kingdom of the West

Franks. Cambrai therefore represented a political barrier to

either side extending control into the eastern part of the other's

territory. Both the Flanders and Vermandois families lost

political power during the early part of the second half of the

10th century. The territory of the Vermandois family was

partitioned after the death of count Héribert [II] in 943 to

provide appanages for his three sons, none of whom appears to have

inherited their father's energy, and in the following century most

of it passed by inheritance into the domaine royale of the

Capetian kings.

A. COMTES de VERMANDOIS 896-1080 (CAROLINGIAN)

HERIBERT [I], son of PEPIN [Carolingian] Seigneur de Péronne et de

St Quentin, Comte near Paris ([848/850]-murdered [900/6 Nov 907]).

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Kildemateriale for ane nr. 56361161400/56361161401

Kildemateriale 1: Wissenburg/Familien Bernhard Van Italië

166.223.054.184 Bernhard der FRANKEN

Familienaam • Index 166.223.054.184 • Vader 166.223.054.098 •

Moeder 166.223.054.099

Geboren rond 797.

Overleden 17 april 818, begraven te Milaan in de basiliek van

Saint-Ambroise

Koning van Italië. Bernhard komt, opgevoed in een klooster te

Fulda, 812 naar Italië en wordt door zijn grootvader Karel de

Grote in opvolging van zijn vader Pippijn in september 813 tot

(onder)koning van Italië aangesteld; huldigt Lodewijk de Vrome als

keizer in 814; wanneer deze hem echter bij de z.g. 'Ordinatio

omperii' van 817 passeert, komt hij met de groten van zijn rijk in

opstand; verslagen geeft hij zich in december van dat jaar over te

Châlon-sur-Saône; de rijksvergadering veroordeelt hem te Aken tot

de dood; wordt echter door Lodewijk de Vrome 'begenadigd' tot het

'uitsteken van zijn ogen', enkele dagen na deze ingreep overlijdt

hij aan deze verwonding.

Huwt ca. 814

166.223.054.185 Kunigunde van ITALIË

Familienaam • Index 166.223.054.185 • Vader onbekend • Moeder

onbekend

Overleden na 15 juni 835

(Ook genoemd: *c780 +c810)

Kinderen:

Pippijn der Franken Zie 83.111.527.092

Kildemateriale 2: Herweijer/Familien Bernhard Van Italië

http://www.herweijer.org/index.php?id=19

153620424 BERNHARD, geboren ca. 797, overleden op 17-04-0818. Hij

werd opgevoed in een klooster te Fulda. In september 813 was hij

koning van Italië. In opdracht van Lodewijk de Vrome (oom van

vaderszijde) werden in 818 zijn ogen uitgestoken. Zoon van PIPPIJN

I (KARLOMAN) (zie 307240848).

Gehuwd ca. 814 met

153620425 KUNIGUNDE, overleden na 15-06-835.

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Kildemateriale 3: Kareldegrote/Familien Bernhard Van Italië

http://home.planet.nl/~prin2855/kareldegrote/d1.htm#c14533

Karel De Grote = Første generation.

3. Generation:

25. Bernhard Van Italië Der Franken was born about 797, died on 17

Apr 818 in Aken about age 21, and was buried in Milaan (It) (In DE

Basiliek Saint-Ambroise).

General Notes: Komt, opgevoed in een klooster te Fulda, in 812

naar Italië en wordt door zijn grootvader Karel De Grote in

opvolging van zijn vader Pippijn in Sep 813 tot (onder)koning van

Italië aangesteld. Huldigt Lodewijk de Vrome als keizer in 814.

Wanneer deze hem echter bij de zgn. "Ordinatio imperii" van 817

passeert, komt hij met de groten van zijn rijk in opstand.

Verslagen geeft hij zich in Dec 817 over te Chalon-sur-Saone. De

Rijksvergadering veroordeelt hem te Aken tot de dood, hij wordt

echter door Lodewijk de Vrome "begenadigd" tot het "uitsteken van

zijn ogen", welke ingreep hij niet overleeft, zodat hij slechts

twee of drie dagen na de ingreep aan zijn wonden overlijdt.

Bernhard married Kunigunde Van Italië about 814. Kunigunde was

born about 800 and died after 15 Jun 835.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 42 M i. Pippijn II Van Parijs Der Franken was born before 818

and died after 840.

Kildemateriale 4: Wikipedia/Familien Bernhard Van Italië

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_van_Itali%C3%AB

Bernard (rond 797 - 17 april 818) was een onwettige zoon van

koning Pepijn van Italië en volgde zijn vader op als koning van

Italië in 813. Hij was de vader van Peppijn van Parijs.

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Kildemateriale 5: MedLands/Familien Bernhard Van Italië

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#_Toc

203638190

Chapter 4. KINGS of ITALY 774-887 (CAROLINGIANS)

BERNARD 814-817

BERNARD, illegitimate son of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress

--- ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio). Thegan's

Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Bernhardus filius Pippini ex

concubina" [630]. Bernard is named only son of Pippin by Einhard

[631]. Regino names "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ" when

recording his death in 818 [632]. Settipani cites a litany of St

Gallen which lists Bernard among Carolingians of illegitimate

birth [633]. He was brought up at Kloster Fulda. His paternal

grandfather sent him back to Italy in autumn 812, granting him the

title "rex Langobardorum" in Apr 813. Einhard's Annales that

"Walanem filium Bernhardi patruelis sui" was sent to Italy in 812

as guardian for "Bernhardum filium Pippin nepotem suum [Karoli

imperatoris]" [634]. He was confirmed 11 Sep 813 at Aix-la-

Chapelle as BERNARD I King of Italy, as vassal of the emperor,

ruling under the regency of Adalhard abbé de Corbie [635].

Although he swore allegiance to his uncle Emperor Louis I "le

Pieux" on the latter's accession in 814, the emperor passed the

Ordinatio Imperii in Jul 817 which failed to mention Bernard's

royal status, effectively depriving him of any role in government

and of his royal title. Bernard rebelled unsuccessfully in Dec

817. He was tricked into returning to France to ask for the

emperor's forgiveness at Chalon-sur-Saône, but was taken to Aix-

la-Chapelle where he was sentenced to death. The Annales Xantenses

record that "Bernhardus rex Langobardorum" was blinded in 818

[636]. Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris records that

"Bernhardus filius Pippini ex concubina" was blinded and died on

the third day which followed this [637]. After his death, Italy

was once more placed under the direct rule of the emperor [638].

m ([813]) CUNIGUNDIS --- (-after 15 Jun 835). Settipani refers to

an act of the monastery of San Alessandro, Parma dated 15 Jun 835

which names her [639]. The origin of Cunigundis is not known.

Settipani suggests [640] that she was Cunigundis, daughter of

Héribert, relative of St Guillaume Comte de Toulouse in order to

explain the transmission of the name Héribert into the family of

Bernard King of Italy. This is highly speculative. It would also

mean that Héribert was older than suggested in the document

CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY, as it is unlikely that Cunigundis was born

later than 800 assuming that the birth date of her son is

correctly estimated at [815].

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Kildemateriale 5: MedLands/Familien Bernhard Van Italië fortsat

King Bernard & his wife had one son:

1. PEPIN ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of

"Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ" [641]. Seigneur de Péronne

et de Saint Quentin [642]. Comte near Paris after 834.

- COMTES de VERMANDOIS.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Cunigundis

died835

Carolingian NOBILITY

J. FAMILIES of NIBELUNG, CHILDEBRAND and THEODERIC

GUILLAUME, son of THEODERIC [I] Comte d'Autun & his wife Aldana --

- ([750/55]-Gellone [28 May [812/13]/21 May 815]). The Vita S.

Willelmi records that “beatus Willelmus“ was born during the reign

of King Pepin to “consule Theoderico…mater…comitissa… Aldana“

[354]. Comte de Toulouse, Marquis de Septimania.

Guillaume & his [first] wife had [seven] children:

4. [HERIBERT ([780/85]-after 843). The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris

names "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" when recording that he was

sent to suppress the rebellion of "Hodo consobrinus illius", the

latter surrendering and being exiled [366]. "Willelmus…comes"

names "filiabus meis et filiis Barnardo, Witchario, Gotcelmo,

Helimbruch" (version two: "filios meos et filias Witcario,

Hildehelmo et Helinbruch") in his charter dated 14 Dec 804

(version two: dated 15 Dec 804) for the foundation of the

monastery of Gellone [367], it being possible that "Helimbruch"

refers to Heribert and is not a separate person. His birth date

range is estimated on the basis of his having been adult in 809

when he was probably recorded in Spain (see below). It is not

entirely clear that Heribert was the full brother of Bernard. In

the Manual of Dhuoda (written in 843), Doda reminds her son that,

when a member of his family dies, he should add the deceased's

name to the list of family members for whom prayers should be

said. She adds at the end of the paragraph a reminder that he

should do the same in respect of "domno Ariberto avunculo tuo"

[368]. There are three possible explanations for this special

position accorded to Heribert in the text. The obvious case is

that Heribert, because of his disgrace and mutilation, was

considered to have forfeited his rights to the respect generally

accorded to deceased family members, Doda thinking it worthwhile

reminding her son that this was not the appropriate way to treat

his uncle. The second possibility is that he was not so obviously

a "family member" as the other named individuals, either because

he was illegitimate or because he was a uterine half-brother of

Bernard. The third possibility, although this appears less likely,

is that Heribert was Bernard's brother-in-law, bearing in mind the

strict meaning of the word avunculus as maternal uncle.

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Kildemateriale 5: MedLands/Familien Bernhard Van Italië fortsat

However, the Manual refers only to the need to pray for the family

of Bernard's father, in which case it would seem odd for the text

to single out Heribert from all other maternal relatives if he was

related to Bernard through his mother. The Vita Hludowici

Imperatoris records that "Heribertum" was awarded Tortosa after

its capture [in 809] [369], which it is assumed refers to Heribert

son of Duke Guillaume as no other contemporary with this name has

so far been identified. If this is correct, Heribert must have

been one of his father's older children, certainly older than

Bernard assuming that the latter's birth date is correctly

estimated to [795]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names

"Heriberto" as missus of King Louis I [in 812] [370]. Nithard

names "Herbert" brother of Bernard Duke of Septimania, when

recording that he was captured, blinded and imprisoned in Italy in

[Apr 830] when his brother was banished by the sons of Emperor

Louis I [371]. The Annales Bertiniani record the capture and

blinding of "Herebertum fratrem Bernardi" in 830 [372]. The Vita

Hludowici Imperatoris records that "Heribertus Bernhardi frater"

was blinded [in 830] and exiled with "Hodo consobrinus illius"

[373]. The previous passage in the Vita records that Orléans was

confiscated from Eudes Comte d'Orléans. It is possible that he was

the same person as "Hodo", although the precise nature of the

relationship between him and Heribert has not been established.

m ---. The name of Heribert's wife is not known.]

a) [CUNIGUNDIS (-after 15 Jun 835). Settipani suggests [374] that

Cunigundis, wife of Bernard I King of Italy, was the daughter of

Heribert in order to explain the transmission of her name into the

family. This is highly speculative. It would also mean that

Heribert was older than suggested above, as it is unlikely that

Cunigundis was born later than 800 assuming that the birth date of

her son is correctly estimated at [815]. m ([813]) BERNARD I King

of Italy, illegitimate son of PEPIN I King of Italy & his mistress

Chrothais ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio).]

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Kildemateriale 5: MedLands/Familien Bernhard Van Italië fortsat

Noter:

[365] Reproduced in Thomassy, R. 'Critique des deux chartes de

foundation de l'abbaye de Saint-Guillem-du-Désert', Biblio-

thèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 1, Tome II (Paris 1840-

1844), p. 179.

[366] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 45, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[367] Reproduced in Thomassy, R. 'Critique des deux chartes de

foundation de l'abbaye de Saint-Guillem-du-Désert', Biblio-

thèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 1, Tome II (Paris 1840-

1844), p. 179.

[368] Manuel de Dhuoda LXXII, p. 238.

[369] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 16, MGH SS II, p. 615.

[370] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 17, MGH SS II, p. 615.

[371] Nithard I.3, p. 131.

[372] Annales Bertiniani I 830.

[373] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 44 and 45, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[374] Settipani (1993), p. 213.

[375] Reproduced in Thomassy, R. 'Critique des deux chartes de

foundation de l'abbaye de Saint-Guillem-du-Désert', Biblio-

thèque de l'Ecole des Chartes, Série 1, Tome II (Paris 1840-

1844), p. 179.

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Kildemateriale for ane nr. 112722322800/112722322801

Kildemateriale 1: Wissenburg/Familien Pippijn Van Italië

166.223.054.098 Pippijn van ITALIË

Familienaam • Index 166.223.054.098 • Vader 332.446.107.688 •

Moeder 332.446.107.689 • Tevens 332.446.108.368

Geboren tussen 8 juli 776 en 8 juli 777.

Overleden Milaan 8 juli 810, begraven aldaar op 11 juli 810 (S.

Ambrogio).

Pippijn, heette oorspronkelijk Karloman; door paus Hadrianus

gedoopt als Pippijn en tot koning van Italië gezalfd, Rome 15-4-

781; het huwelijk is (waarschijnlijk) nooit door de kerk erkend.

NB huwelijk Theodrada wordt door ES niet ondersteund;

waarschijnlijk een middeleeuwse verdichting.

Huwt ca. 795

166.223.054.099 Bertha N.

Index 166.223.054.099 • Vader onbekend • Moeder onbekend • Tevens

332.446.108.369

Geboren ca. 780

Overleden ca. 810.

Kinderen:

Bernhard der Franken Zie 166.223.054.184

Adelheid (*798)

Atula (*800/10 +na 810), ook Adela of Athalia genoemd

Gundrada (*800/10 +na 810)

Berthaid (*800/10 +na 810)

Theodrada Zie 83.111.527.049.

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Kildemateriale 2: KarelDeGrote/Familien Pippijn Van Italië

http://home.planet.nl/~prin2855/kareldegrote/d1.htm#c14533

Karel De Grote = Generation 1.

Generation 2:

7. Pippijn I (Karloman) Der Franken was born in Apr 777, died on 8

Jul 810 in Milaan at age 33, and was buried on 11 Jul 810 in

Verona (It) (In DE Kerk San Zeno Maggiore).

General Notes: Vergezelde zijn vader naar Italië, alwaar hij werd

gedoopt door paus Hadrinus, bij welke gelegenheid zijn naam Karel

werd veranderd in Pippijn. Werd te Rome op 15 Apr 781 tot koning

gekroond. Koning der Lombarden.

Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: koning van Italië, gezalfd te Rome op 15 april 781.

Pippijn married Chrothais Van Italië about 795. Chrothais was born

about 780 and died about 810 about age 30.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 25 Mi. Bernhard Van Italië Der Franken was born about 797, died

on 17 Apr 818 in Aken about age 21, and was buried in Milaan (It)

(In DE Basiliek Saint-Ambroise).

Pippijn next married Bertha Van Toulouse Aquitanië. Bertha was

born before 780.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 26 Fi. Adelheid Athalia Van Italië was born after 800 and died

from 00 0847 to 850.

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Kildemateriale 3: Herweijer/Familien Pippijn Van Italië

http://www.herweijer.org/index.php?id=19

307240848 PIPPIJN I (KARLOMAN), geboren ca. 777, overleden op 08-

07-0810, begraven op 11-07-0810 te Milaan (St Ambrogio). Hij was

koning van Italië, gezalfd te Rome op 15 april 781. Zoon van KAREL

DE GROTE (zie 153634944) en HILDEGARD (zie 153634945).

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Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Pippijn Van Italië

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#_Toc

203638189

ITALY,

emperors & kings

Chapter 4. KINGS of ITALY 774-887 (CAROLINGIANS) 60

PEPIN 781-811

CARLOMAN [Pepin], son of CHARLES I King of the Franks & his second

wife Hildegard (777-Milan 8 Jul 810, bur Verona, San Zeno

Maggiore). "Pippinus" is named, and his parentage recorded, in the

Gesta Mettensium, which specifies that he was his parents' second

son [609]. He was baptised "PEPIN" in Rome 15 Apr 781 by Pope

Hadrian, Settipani commenting that his name was changed from

Carloman [610] but the primary source which identifies him by this

name has not so far been identified. He was crowned PEPIN King of

Italy 15 Apr 781 at Rome [611], named King of the Lombards and

installed at Pavia, ruling under the regency of Adalhard. He

invaded the duchy of Benevento in early 793. The 796 victory of

"rex Pippinus" against the Avars led by "Cacanus rex" (which

reflects the title "Khagan" not his name) is commemorated in a

contemporary poem [612]. The Annales Fuldenses record that

"Ehericum ducem Foroiuliensem, deinde…Pippinum filium regis"

captured the camp of "Hunorum…Hringum" in 796, specifying that

"Cagan et Iugurro principibus Hunorum" were killed by their own

people [613]. At the partition of the empire agreed at Thionville

in 806, Pepin was designated sovereign of Italy, Bavaria,

Carinthia (except Nordgau) and Alemannia south of the River

Danube. He subjugated Istria, the towns of Dalmatia, and Venice in

[810] [614]. The Annales Fuldenses record the death "810 VIII Id

Iul" of "Pippinum filius eius regem Italiæ" [615]. The Annales

Sancti Emmerammi record the death "810 Id Iul" of "Pippinus"

[616].

Mistress (1): (from [795]) --- . Thegan's Vita Hludowici Impera-

toris records that Pepin's son Bernard was born "…ex concubina"

[617]. However, other sources do not refer to the fact that he was

illegitimate. The question is not beyond doubt. Assuming that he

was illegitimate, the name of King Pepin's mistress is not known.

Settipani quotes a name list in the Liber confraternitatum

augiensis which reads "Karolus maior domus, Pippin rex,

Karlomannus maior domus, Karolus imperator, Karolus rex, Pippin

rex, Bernardus rex, Ruadtrud, Ruadheid, Svanahild regina, Bertha

regina, Hiltikart regina, Fastrat regina, Liutkart regina,

Ruadheid, Hirminkar regina" [618]. He makes the obvious links

between "Karolus maior domus…Svanahild regina", "Pippin rex…Bertha

regina" and "Karolus imperator…Hiltikart regina, Fastrat regina,

Liutkart regina", deducing that the last named "Ruadheid" must be

linked logically to "Pippin rex".

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Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Pippijn Van Italië fortsat

However, this link is not inevitable. It is based on three

assumptions: firstly that the second "Pippin rex" was Pepin King

of Italy (he is the most likely candidate, but it could also be

Pepin King of Aquitaine, son of Emperor Louis I); secondly that

there are no female names linked either to "Karolus rex" or to

"Bernardus rex", which cannot be proved; and thirdly, that all the

females listed were partners of the males listed, which is

certainly not the case in view of the absence of Emperor Louis I

"le Pieux" who is assumed to be the husband of "Hirminkar regina".

Rösch suggests Bertha as the possible name of King Pepin's wife,

citing Stromeyer [619]. Settipani suggests that she was a close

relative of Adalhard Abbé de Corbie and his half-brother Wala to

explain the appointment of the former as regent for her son

Bernard King of Italy in 813.

King Pepin had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1):

1. BERNARD ([797]-Milan 17 Aug 818, bur Milan, San Ambrosio).

Thegan's Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Bernhardus filius

Pippini ex concubina" [620]. He was confirmed 11 Sep 813 at Aix-

la-Chapelle as BERNARD I King of Italy.

- see below.

King Pepin had five [illegitimate] children by [Mistress (1)].

Einhard, who names these daughters, makes no mention of whether

they were legitimate or not. If they were illegitimate, it is not

known whether they were full sisters of Bernard.

2. ADELAIS ([798]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam, Guntradam,

Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" are named as daughters of Pippin by

Einhard [621]. She was taken from Italy to the imperial court in

807 [622]. same person as…? AEDA. The Carmen de Primordiis Cœnobii

Gandersheimensis names the wife of "Liudulfus" as "Oda

…Francorum…de stirpe potentum, filia Billungi…atque Aedæ" [623].

Her precise origin is mentioned in the charter dated 885 by which

"Oda comitissa, Pipini regis Italiæ ex filia neptis, Hliudolfi

Ducis vidua" founded Kloster Calbe an der Milde, although the

accuracy of this document is not known [624]. m BILLUNG, son of -.

3. ADULA ([800/810]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam, Guntradam,

Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" are named as daughters of Pippin by

Einhard [625]. She arrived at the imperial court before 814.

4. GUNTRADA ([800/810]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam,

Guntradam, Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" are named as daughters of

Pippin by Einhard [626]. She arrived at the imperial court before

814.

5. BERTAIDE ([800/810]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam,

Guntradam, Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" are named as daughters of

Pippin by Einhard [627]. She arrived at the imperial court before

814.

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Kildemateriale 4: MedLands/Familien Pippijn Van Italië fortsat

6. THEODRADA ([800/810]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam, Guntra-

dam, Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" are named as daughters of Pippin

by Einhard [628]. She arrived at the imperial court before 814.

[According to Winkhaus [629], one of the last four daughters

married LAMBERT I Comte de Nantes, son of WIDO Comte et Marquis de

Nantes & his wife --- (-1 Sep 836), but the source on which this

is based has not been identified.]

Noter:

[608] Settipani (1993), p. 211.

[609] Pauli Gesta Episcop. Mettensium, MGH SS II, p. 265.

[610] Settipani (1993), p. 211.

[611] RFA 781, p. 59.

[612] Tituli Sæculi VIII, XI De Pippini regis Victoria Avarica,

MGH Poetæ Latini ævi Carolini I, p. 116.

[613] Annales Fuldenses 796, MGH SS I, p. 351.

[614] Settipani (1993), p. 211.

[615] Annales Fuldenses 810, MGH SS I, p. 355.

[616] Annales Sancti Emmerammi Ratisponensis maiores 810, MGH SS

I, p. 93.

[617] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596.

[618] Settipani (1993), pp. 167-8, quoting Liber confraternitatum

augiensis, MGH Lib Confr II, 460, p. 292.

[619] Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener &

Co, Neustadt an der Aisch), p. 67, citing Stromeyer, M.

(1963/67) Merian-Ahnen aus dreizehn Jahrhunderten (C.A.

Starke).

[620] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596.

[621] Einhard 19, p. 454.

[622] Settipani (1993), p. 212.

[623] Carmen de Primordiis Cœnobii Gandersheimensis, MGH SS IV,

p. 306.

[624] Riedel Mark 1 [the full reference is not given], p. 25,

quoted in Raumer, G. W. von (1836) Regesta Historiæ _

Brandenburgensis, Tome I (Berlin), p. 24.

[625] Einhard 19, p. 454.

[626] Einhard 19, p. 454.

[627] Einhard 19, p. 454.

[628] Einhard 19, p. 454.

[629] Winkhaus, E. 'Ahnen zu Karl dem Großen und Widukind' in 765

(773) Ahnenstämmen (1950-53), cited in Rösch (1977), p. 67. This

marriage is not in Settipani (1993), p. 212.

[630] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596.

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