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Esther Doyle Guidance Counsellor Planning the next step of your career A presentation for parents and students Guidance Department Presentation Secondary School

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Esther DoyleGuidance Counsellor

Planning the next step of your career

A presentation for parents and students

Guidance Department Presentation Secondary School

Some of the key issues this year including: Decisions, Dates and Deadlines [Ireland and

abroad] CAO Applications/points system/offers Cost of studying and living at home and away

from home Student Supports:

Grants, Access Schemes, Scholarships, Disability

Other routes: FETAC/QQI Progression Schemes Other non CAO options

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Outline of presentation

First decision – college?At home or abroad?

Will I stay ? Or go?

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In 2014 there are 38 HEI’s offering places to FETAC applicants

Currently 20% of all CAO applicants have a level 5/6 FETAC AWARD (not applying on the basis of LC)

Since 2014 every FETAC Award will be part of the CAS (Common Awards System)

Based on a CREDITS system (max120=400points) Some courses are ‘linked’ to specific related

courses

For more information look up fetac.ie website

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If direct entry to college is not for you or you need a back up plan:

FETAC Progression Routes –Further Education (PLC) FETAC level 5 or 6

Leaving Cert

FETAC(PLC)Level 5 course

Level 6 course Level 7

Level 7 course

Level 8

Level 6 course Level 8 course

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The FETAC(QQI) Progression Route

Since 2007 there are 3 types of courses students can apply for under the National Qualifications Framework.

These are applied for on 2 separate lists on a single form:

Level 6 & 7 Courses Level 8 CoursesOrdinary Degrees (7) Higher Certificates (6) Honours Degrees (8)Up to 10 Course Choices Up to 10 Course Choices

The courses and levels are clearly labelled in the CAO Handbook N.B. – Care must be taken with courses marked ‘Restricted’. These ‘restricted’ courses cannot be applied for after February

1st due to extra assessments required. Check out the CAO website at cao.ie

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Choice 1: Going to college in Ireland:Making a CAO Application

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So how does the CAO and points system in Ireland work?

Generally in the CAO systemNo. of qualified applicants > No. of course places

--> selection system is needed.Selection system used in Irish 3rd Level

Colleges is CAO POINTS SYSTEM

Points are calculated from ONE sitting of the Leaving Certificate only.

Points total is calculated from SIX best subjects Entry Requirements (e.g. Pass in Maths and

English) can be satisfied over more than one sitting of the Leaving Certificate- with some exceptions –e.g. Medicine

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CAO Points System

Grade Honours OrdinaryA1 100 60A2 90 50

B1 85 45B2 80 40B3 75 35 BEST

C1 70 30 6C2 65 25C3 60 20 SUBJECTS

D1 55 15D2 50 10D3 45 5

Since 2012, bonus points in higher maths – 25 extra points

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Points System – the best 6

All the subjects a student presents are given a CAO points score and the best 6 numbers are added up to get the overall total points.

Irish H C2 65 English O A1 65 Maths H D2 50 +25=75 French H B2 80 Biology H C1 70 Geography O A1 60 exclude History H B3 75 POINTS 425

BEFORE THE POINTS WILL BE LOOKED AT A STUDENT MUST SATISFY THE : 1: COLLEGE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS (MATRICULATION) 2: COURSE ENTRY REQUIREMENTS (CAN BE SUBJECT OR GRADE SPECIFIC)

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How the points are calculated

5th Nov – online CAO application facility opens 1st February, 2015 [Early Bird Special Offer –Jan 20th 2015]

◦ Closing date for receipt of normal applications Before/By 15th February, 2015

◦ Receive Statement of Course Choices 1st March 2015

Closing date for final completion of online HEAR and DARE applications1st April 2015

Closing date for all final HEAR/DARE documentation 1st May, 2015

◦ Closing date for receipt of late CAO applications Before/By 31st May, 2015

◦ Receive Statement of Application Record From 5 May, 2015

◦ Change of mind opens -FREE1st July, 2015◦ Latest date for receipt of change of mind form in CAO.

Late August, 2015◦ First round of offers will commence on Aug 17 2014: round 1, Aug 26 2014: round

2

◦ Cost of CAO Application:◦ Early Bird – 25 Euro [on or before Jan 20th]◦ Normal – 40 Euro [by Feb 1st]◦ Students are encouraged to apply soon and avail of the FREE change of mind facility

until the end of January [to avoid the last minute panic and computer problems]

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CAO Timetable –crucial dates

In August 2015 (17 AUG) the CAO will make offers to students from both lists(level 6/7 and 8)

Students can only accept one offer at a time

Students are still eligible for ALL higher preference offers in later rounds

Students can accept online If deferring, students must contact the HEI

directly in writing From May to July 1st students can adjust

their course choice lists using the FREE change of mind facility.

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CAO Offers – how it works

USA APPLICANTS For students applying to the USA –the S.A.T. is usually part of the

application process. Register by Oct 9th 2014, test is on 8 Nov 2014 Locations: 2 schools in Dublin St. Conleths and St. Andrews Dublin Register now online, go to the collegeboards.com website

UK APPLICANTS For UK applicants (Oct 15th or Jan 15th) Students set up their accounts online and work through the sections Up to 5 choices maximum [sometimes only 4] Guidelines have been given regarding writing the personal statement Ensure you are aware of the courses that must be applied for by Oct 15th

Check out the admissions tests list on the UCAS website for UKCAT, HPAT etc

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Choice 2: Going to College AbroadUK/USA or Europe

Many colleges offer EU students the opportunity to study at very reasonable prices through the medium of English across many excellent universities

Check out the Eunicas.ie Website for more information about dates and costs

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Going to college in Europe

UCAS October 15th 2014(for some courses) UCAS January 15th 2015(for most courses) CAO Feb 1st 2015

[Early bird special deal –Jan 20th]

PLC applications March 2015 [some accept later applications]

REACH applications March 2015 HEAR and DARE applications Feb/March 1st 2015 Pre exams March 2015 Practical/Oral LC exams March/April 2015 HEAR and DARE final documentation April 1st 2015 LC written exams June 3rd 2015 Grant applications SUSI June/July 2015 Students have a list of all open days

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Making A College ApplicationImportant Key Dates for Ireland/UK

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So you want to go to college?

How will you finance it?

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Cost of Living at Home – 2014Registration Fees approx: €2,750

Cost of living for Students living at home

Monthly (€) Annual (€)

Contribution to Utilities 33 297

Food 65 585

Travel 119 1071

Books & Class Materials 55 495

Clothes/Medical 45 405

Mobile 32 288

Social Life 132 1188

Student Contribution charge

306 2750

Total’s 787 7083

Registration Fees approx: €2,750

Students in receipt of a grant will get their registration fees paid and may also receive additional support

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The Cost of Living Away From Home

Cost of Living for Student’s Living away from Home

Monthly (€) Annual (€)

Rent (National – for Dublin see below)

307** 2763

Utilities 33 297Food 172 1548Travel 119 1071Books  & Class materials 74**** 666Clothes/Medical 45 405Mobile 32 288Social life/Misc 132 1188Student Contribution Charge 306 2750Total’s 1220 10980

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Is there any financial support?

Yes, there is!

Let’s see what supportthere is out there for you

What Supports are Available?

1. GRANTS/SUSI Financial2. H.E.A.R. Scheme Access/financial3. REACH Programme Access/financial4. Millennium Partnership Fund for

Disadvantage Financial

5. Other Scholarships DEIS/academic/Financial

6. D.A.R.E. Scheme Access/disability

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1. Grants Applications are completed online at SUSI –Student Universal

Support Ireland susi.ie Check out studentfinance.ie website for more information

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So how much do students get?

Max Min

5,915 305

Most students

3,025 or 1,215

Living away (45km+)

Living at home

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This is an access scheme which the following 16 Institutions are involved in: DCU, DIT, NUI Maynooth, NUI Galway, TCD, UL, UCC, UCD, Marino, Mary I, Mater Dei, St.

Angela’s, St. Pats, COI College of Education, NCI, PUM

Targets students who are motivated and have the ability to attend 3rd level but may lack some of the social or economic supports.

Who is eligible to apply? Long term unemployed Low family income – must be within the Irish grants income limits Little family tradition of progression to 3rd level Under represented socio-economic groups Applications are due in by Feb 1st 2015 – through the CAO scheme and must be fully

complete by March 1st 2015 ALL FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS must be in by APRIL 1st 2015

Student Supports: Financial (1,200 approx) Personal Guidance Orientation Programme Academic Social Supports Extra Tuition

Students must get about 90% of the points needed to do the course of choice. A lot of students who are on the HEAR scheme achieved their place with no concession on points.

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2. HEARHigher Education Access Route

This is an DIRECT APPLICATION access programme run by WIT.

Its objective is to increase participation rates at WIT by students who may lack economic or social supports. We can make 5 applications only. The application process has changed since last year.

Criteria: 1. Be a child of parents in receipt of social welfare 2. Be a single parent/minority group (or other groups under-represented at 3rd level) 3. Other extenuating circumstances – low family income, must apply for grant

Student Supports: Induction course Financial assistance Additional tuition Book vouchers MentoringTravel/childcare subsidy

Closing date: April 2015 [date to be confirmed] Students must get 200 points (minimum) and fulfil the entry requirements for the course of

choice

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3. REACH PROGRAMME ACCESS TO WIT only

This is a locally administered fund to assist students from disadvantaged areas attend further education.

Application forms are available from Waterford Area Partnership.

A local committee selects the students who receive support.

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4. Millennium Partnership Fund for Disadvantage

SIPTU – for children of SIPTU members, €1000 Credit Union – John Hume, Business –WIT Foley Scholarship – Architecture – €8000 Sports Scholarships – check with college Entrance scholarships – awarded to best students Irish Taxation Institute Scholarship – taxation Science Foundation Ireland/DELL Scholarship –

young women in engineering – engineering degrees – €2000

NUI Equal Opportunities Scheme - €1625 All Ireland Scholarship Scheme – 120 top LC

students, open to medical card holders Details of all schemes on

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5. Other Scholarships

This is part of the supplementary CAO application process. Forms are completed online with additional information forwarded to

the CAO. The scheme is intended to support students with diagnosed

disabilities such as: Asberger’s Syndrome, Autism, ADD, ADHD, blind, vision impaired,

Dyspraxia, mental health condition, neurological conditions, significant ongoing illness, physical disability, specific learning difficulty and others….

The following 12 colleges are part of this scheme: Athlone IT, DCU, DIT, MATER DEI, NCI, NUIG, NUIM, TCD, UCC, UCD,

UL, PUM Applications due in: FEB 1 st to be fully completed by March 1st 2015

Additional information due in by: APRIL 1st 2015 For further information check out: www.accesscollege.ie

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6. D.A.R.E – Disability Access Route to Education

Parents are encouraged to collect in a file all the financial documentation that will be needed.

The following are often requested: P60 for year ended 2013/4 P21 for year ended 2013/4 Self-employed: copy of accounts ending 2012 and 2013 Social Welfare recipient: statement from local office showing total

amounts received for the year ending 2013/4 An original birth cert may also be requested Grant applications require information from 2014 while HEAR

applications require 2013.

If you are doing a HEAR and grant application you will need both sets of documents.

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Financial Documentation needed

Students are encouraged to look at all these schemes and put the time and effort into applying if they feel they are eligible.

HEAR /DARE forms are completed as part of the online CAO process (students NOT the school send them off)

REACH forms [WIT] will be completed between Jan and March

Completed REACH Forms to be returned to your Guidance Counsellor (sent by the school to WIT)

Scholarship applications are usually returned to the college/Institute

Grant forms are completed in the summer online and supporting documents are returned to the SUSI office [note: they are not returned to school]

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Supports In Summary

Websites: Qualifax.ie studentfinance.ie cao.ie ucas.com accesscollege.ie careersportal.ie eunicas.ie fas.ie Collegeboard.com

Thank you for your attention

If you have any questions please feel free to ring me at school

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Websites

And Finally……….A Scare at bedtime!!!In case you are interested it is 37 weeks to the day till your Leaving Certificate begins on Wednesday June 3rd 2015!!!

Don’t forget to collect:Hand-outs Best of luck in the year ahead and happy studying!!!

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