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Case
No.
2Ot4-44974
ilared
foodfill;
Steven
F.
)
In
the
District
Court of
Steven
F.
Hotze;
F.N.
)
Wi1liams,
Sr.;
and
Max
)
Miller,
I
Plaintiffs
)
)
vs.
)
Harris
County,
Texas
)
Annise
D. Parker,
Mayor;
)
Anna
Russell, City
)
Secretary;
and
City
of
)
Houston,
,
Defendants.
)
152nd
.Iudicial
District
ORAT
VIDEOTAPED
DEPOSITION
VINCENT
POVIELL
December
3,
2OL4
OR;A].
VIDEOTAPED
DEPOSITION
OF VTNCENT
POT{ELL'
produced
as
a
witness
at the
instance
of
the
Defendant,
City
of
Houston,
and
duly
sworn,
was
taken
in
the
a.bove-styLed
and
nrmbered
cause
on
the
3rd day
of
December,
2OL4,
from
2233
P.m.
to 4236
P.m.,
before
Shirlee
(Sasi)
Romney,
Certified
Shorthand
Reporter
in
and
for the
State
of
Texas,
reported
by
computerized
stenotlpe
machine
at the offices of
Susman
Godfrey,
L.L.P.,
1000
Louisiana
Street,
Suite
5100,
Houston,
Texas,
putsuant to the
Texas
Rules
of CiviJ-
Procedure
and
the
provisions stated
on
the
record
or
attached
hereto.
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A
Uh-huh.
A
right?
A
Uh-huh.
A
You
have
to
give
an audibJ.e
answer,
sir.
A
Yes.
Yes.
Irm somY.
A
Thatrs
okay.
How many
different
people
did
you
give
pages
of
the
petiton
to to
go
out
and
help
you
collect
signatures?
A I'm thinking
maybe
around
ten ten to
15
maybe.
A
Ten
or
15
different
people
that
you gave
a
coPy
of
--
of the
petition
pages
to
and
asked
them,
I'Vould
you
rty
t
aII
go
out
and
collect
signatures
and
then
give
me back
the
pages
rrr
right?
A
Yes.
A
Okay.
And
you
did
all ten
or
15
of
those
people
actually
go
out
and
coJ-J.ect
signatures
for
you?
A Yes.
And
most
--
I if
I if
I was
performing,
I
might say
something
and
say,
rtYou
can
sign
up
in the
back.
"
It
would
be
very
brief.
A
okay.
A But --
yeah.
A
So,
all
ten or
15 of
those
people, in fact,
went
out
and
got
--
got
signatures
on
their
pages
and
then
gave
you
those
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So,
yes.
A
Vhen
people
came to them
and signed up,
yeah.
if that,'s
what
you'te
--
yourre
saying
received/
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How many
pages
do
you
think
those
ten
or 15
people
total ere
abJ-e
to
get
for
you?
A
lrm not
sure.
A
I mean, do
you
think
A On a
percentage
basis,
I
't
thinking
proba.bly
around
maybe
60
or
70
percent
of the
signatures
were
from
other
people.
A
Sixty
to 70
percent
of the
signatures that
are
on the
pages
where
you
are
the
circul-ator?
A
Right.
A
Have
you
heard of that tezm
before,
trcirculatorrr?
A
I{hen
I
started
petitioning,
yeah.
A
You understand
the circulator
that
yourre
the circuLator
on
aLl
the
pages
where
your
name is at
the
bottom
on
this affidavit,
right?
A
Uh-huh.
A
Do
you
understand
that?
A
Uh-huh.
A
Okay. So
you
think
60
to
70
percent
of the
pages
where
you're
the
circulator are
--
have
signatures
that
nere
gathered
by
someone that
you
asked
to
go
out
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appearing
thereto
was
made
in my
plesence
on
the day
and
date
it
purports
to
have
been
made.rr
Do
you
see
that?
A
Yes.
A
Okay.
You understood
that
you
lvere
swearing
under
oath that
each
signature
on
these
pages
was
made
in
your
presence, rght?
A
lfell, that'
s
what
I
tve
swotn
to,
yes
.
A
Thatts
what
you
swore
to,
right?
A
Utt-huh.
C
And
you
understand
that
thatrs
not
true,
correct,
sir?
Not every
signature
on
this
Page
or on
any
of
these
pages,
they
were
not
all
made in
your
presence,
rght,
sir?
A
Right.
A
And then
it
says
"on
the
day
and date
it
pur^ports
to have
been
made."
Ias tha
--
was that
true,
that
al-l these
signatures
were actually
put
on
the
petition
on
the
on
the
date
hat'
s set
forth
next
t'o
the
signature?
A
Yeah,
it
was in
bold
--
I
mean,
I'l thinking
if
they
put
the
date
there,
they
wete nade
on
that'
day.
A
But
you
didn't collect
them
and
so,
therefore'
you
can't
testify
under
oath
that that's,
n
fact,
true
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these signatures
or
whether
someone
else
collected these
signatures
on
page
5079,
right, sir?
A
No.
A
Okay.
Look at
the first
and
second
lines
of
this
page.
Do
those
look like the
same
handwriting to
YOu,
Sir?
A
Does
is look
Like the
same?
A little bit
it
does.
A I
does,
right, sir?
A
Yeah. The'--
the
signature
may be
a little
different,
but
it's
--
yeah.
A
And
the
handwriting
on
lines 1
and
2 looks an
awful
like the
handwriting
in
lines
4 and
5, right?
A
4
and
5
--
yeah.
A
And the
handwritings
in in
line 1
and
2
and
4
and
5
looks
an awfuJ-
like the
handwriting
in lines
L2,
L3, L4 and
15, right?
A
Yeah, they
are similar
as
far
as
like big and
litt1e.
I'm
not
--
I donrt
study like
--
yeah.
A
So
when
you
--
when
you
swore
under
oath
here
that
alJ.
the
signatures
t'ere made in
your
Presence,
that
wasntt
true,
was
it, sir?
A
They were
not in
my
ptesence.
A
Okay.
Ard when
you
swore under
oath that these
were
all
genuine
signatures
of the
person whose ntme
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Case
No.
2OL4-44974
,fared
foodfill;
Steven
F.
)
fn the
District
Court of
Steven
F.
Hotze;
F.N.
)
fiJ.liams,
Sr.
;
and
Max
)
Miller,
I
, Plaintiffs
)
)
vs.
)
Hanis
CountY,
Texas
)
Annise
D.
Parker,
Mayor;
)
Anna
Russell, City
)
Secretary;
and
City
of
)
Houston,
)
Defendants.
)
152nd
Judicial.
District
REPORTER
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S CERTIFICATE
ORJAT
VIDEOTAPED
DEPOSITION
OF
VINCENT
POT{ELL
December
3,
20LA
L
t
Shirlee
(Sasi)
Romney,
Certified
Shorthand
Reporter
in
and
for the
State
of
Texas, hereby
certify
to the
foJ-J.owing:
That
the
witness,
VINCENT
POI{ELL,
was
duly
sworn
and
that
the transcript
of the
deposition
is a true
record
of the
testimony
given
by
t'he
witness;
That
the
deposition
transcript
was duJ.y
srbmitted
on
to the
witness
or to
the attorney
for
the
witness
for
examination,
signatlre'
and return
to
me
by
That
pursuant
to
nformation
given
t'o the
deposition
offcer
at
the time
Eaid
testimony
was taken,
the
folIowng
includes
aII
parties
of
record
and
the
amount
of time
used
by each
party
at the
time of
the
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deposition:
Mr. Andy
Taylor
(0h0m)
Attorney
for
Plaintiffs
Ms.
,fudith
Rannsey
(0h0m)
Attorney for
Arnise
D. Parker,
Mayor
Mr. Seth
Isgur
(0h0m)
At,torney
for
Anna
Russell, City
Secretary
Mr. Alex
Kaplan
(1h39m)
Attorney
for City of
Houston
That a
copy of this
certificate
was served on
all
parties
shown
herein
on
with the
Clerk.
I further
certify
that
I
am
neither
counsel
for,
related to,
nor
employed
by
any
of
the
parties
in
the
action
in which
this
proceeding was
taken, and
further
that
I
am
not financially
or
otherwise
interested
in
the
outcome
of this
action.
Further certification
requirements
pursuant
to
Rule
2O3
of the
Texas
Code
of Civi]-
Procedure
will
be
complied
with after
they
have occurred.
Certified
to
by
me on
ths
_
day
|
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Shirlee
(Sas
Romney, CSR
Texas
CSR
975
E:qrration:
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