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Page 1: If  13 is large, then what ? Hisakazu Minakata Tokyo Metropolitan University

If q13 is large, then what ?

Hisakazu Minakata

Tokyo Metropolitan University

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Title too timely? Yes, but meant to be a speculative one when proposed

August 1-6, 2011 Nufact2011@CERN-UNIGE

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Apparently q13 is large

6 events at T2K !

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Released in June 15@KEK

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T2K appearance event distribution

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MINOS also saw excess

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Global analysis• All n experiments coherently support q13 ~ 8 degree

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Fogli et al. June 29

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We will soon hear more about this from reactors!

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There are two

issues (at least)

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Two issues of large q13

• What is the influence of large q13 on strategies of

future n oscillation experiments ?

• What the large q13 means? Physics behind the large q13

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Smirnov’s talk Mohapatra’s talk …

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Wide possibilities are now open for CP • Conventional nm superbeam can do a much

better job for CP (and possibly for mass hierarchy) than it was thought

• This means that we should reconsider about strategy for CP

• I believe megaton-scale water Cherenkov / 100 kt liquid Ar is still needed for robust discovery of CPV

• Yet, the paths to go there could have more variety “guerrilla type” approaches possibleAugust 1-6, 2011 Nufact2011@CERN-UNIGE

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Various options become possible for CP

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Reactor accelerator combination

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HM-Sugiyama 04Huber et al. 09

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n + n-bar combination in NOnA / T2K

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NOVA@wine&cheese June17

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Reactor-accelerator & n+n-bar methods

• Apparently the methods works, but unlikely to cover all the d space

• Quantitative estimation of CP sensitivity required very interesting !!

• Results of CP sensitivity studies indicate the importance of mass hierarchy resolution

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Various options possible…

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MEMPHYS: Dashed line = combining SPL + beta

Campagne et al. 07

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What do you

propose?

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Opening the possibility of “all in one”

• With large q13 ~ Chooz limit a megaton scale water Cherenkov can do many

• With intense n and n-bar beam it can measure d

• With gigantic atmospheric n events it could determine mass hierarchy

• in situ measurement of everything in a single detector

• It can do proton decay • It can do many astrophysics too

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water Cherenkov vs. liquid Ar vs. TASD debatable

Kakuno-san’s talk

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Issues in precision

measurement of CP

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megaton class detectors (examples)

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T2K II

MEMPHYS

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CP sensitivity is not maximal at sin2q13=0.1

August 1-6, 2011 Nufact2011@CERN-UNIGE MEMPHYS

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T2KK vs. T2K II Comparison

Total mass of the detectors = 0.54 Mton fid. mass4 years neutrino beam + 4 years anti-neutrino beam

3 s (thick) 2 s (thin)

Mass hierarchy CP violation (sind≠0)

hep-ph/0504026

T2K

T2KK

4MW!

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Precision CP requires …

• T2K-T2KK comparison seems to indicate necessity of mass hierarchy resolution

• importance of lifting sign Dm2 degeneracy • Comparison of different error treatments in

n n-bar shows the relative cross section error affects CP sensitivity

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n cross section measurement crucially important

Supported by analysis in Kakuno-san’s talk

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Does large q13 require

new oscillation formula?

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Large q13 corrections to Cervera et al. formula

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Cervera et al. 00 Good perturbative formula for small q13 with s13 ~ Dm2

21 / Dm231 = : e 2nd order

formula

But, for large q13 ~10 deg. s13 ~ \sqrt{ }e

higher order corrections needed PNC ~ s13

4, or ~ s132 e

Computed: K. Asano-H.M. JHEPJune7, 2011

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Some features of the new formula

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All the d dependence is in half-integer power of e

General theorems!

rD=Dm221/Dm2

31 rA=a/Dm2

31 D=Dm2

31 / 2E

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Correction terms are small

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All the correction terms are of order ~ e2

General theorems!

rD=Dm221/Dm2

31 rA=a/Dm2

31 D=Dm2

31 / 2E

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Is parameter degeneracy affected by large

q13?

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P degeneracy well understood

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Cervera et al. formula

HM-Uchinami JHEP10

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Is P degeneracy unchanged for large q13?

• One can show on general ground that PNC must be order (Dm2

21 / Dm231)2 ~ 0.001

• Difference between Cervera sol. and our solutions is tiny (apart from a particular region)

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PNC ~ s134, or ~s13

2 Dm221 / Dm2

31

Cervera et al. formula

Asano-HM JHEP11

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What large q13 means?

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What large q13 means?

• Large q13 is natural because in U=Vl+Vn two

angles are large, and hence extremely small q13 is not expected,

• Anarchy ? • The above argument assumes no symmetry

is hidden symmetries which enforce q13 =0 somewhat discouraged (?) unless you have good reasons

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Large q13 in QLC context

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Bimaximal mixing from charged leptons

Bimaximal mixing from neutrinos

Large q13 prefers bimaximal mixing from n

Raidal 04, HM-A.Smirnov 04

QLC based on observation: q12 + qC = p/4

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Conclusion • large q13 opens up wide range of

possibilities for hunting CP & mass hierarchy

• While guerrilla type approach is possible, a charming case would be to determine all at once by a megaton-scale detector (+proton decay) Hyper-K

• Yet, precision measurement would require resolution of sign-Dm2 degeneracy

• Physical meaning of the large q13 has to be understood