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K E N NE T t' ltA NS O NAt J o hnny Gr ay J o nes Det ent i o n Cent er , 48l S Shedd Road, 80s l i er Ci t y .I nt er v i e~ of Kennet h Cl yde Kans on, wl m, bor n 12/ 1 / 64, by L i n da Turner.Chi l d Protection Cent er , Shr evepor t , Anne M. Oemouc c l 1e, Chi l d ~ot ec t i onccnrcr , Shr-:v,wurt, .:lindSamuel Craddock, of [I.~ L i c ens i ng and CcrU,ficationof f i c e. DHHl , Bat on Rouge. The i nt er v i ew began at appr ox i mat el y 9: 40 a. m.and t er m nat ed at about 10: 45 8. m. The i dent i t i es of Tur ner , Demo~r el l eand C$~ddoc k wer e made t o Hans on and the pur r os ~ of t he i nt er v i ew.Mant i o n s ai d he i s t he s on of Wanda Wynn and W ns t on Wynn~ Box 211. P r at t -Vi l l e , Al abama 36067.Hanson s a i d h e arrived a t Bet hany I oy ' l S c h o ~ l i n ear l y A p r i l 1 9 8 1 ; t ha tboy s ages r an~e f r om 10 t o 17 year s , and t hat ~hi l e t her e ar e no gr adesof s c h oo l , t h~r e ar e t wo age gr oups , one bei n l 10 [ 0 14 ye~r 8 aDd t hes ec~nd gr oup of t hos e l ' y ear s upwar d. He SAi d c l a s s es wer e not r egul a rand o f t e n wor k on t he bUi l d i ngs , r ounds t o o k al l t he c l as s t i me .Hans en s ai d he bas been pun i s hed, hit by a woode: t pa ddl e, by ~r . l a p i 4 : ! r .'He de. c r i bed t hi s paddl e as about t h r e e f eet l o ng . . about 5" v i d e, hav i n g~a . , l on8 h andl e. llaDson l a i d about a week af t er he arrived he l e f t out~s 6 ' _ .,clothing .and f or , , h i h ' Rapi er paddled h i l a . S e ' t i o u s p u n i s hme n tf r e~t ed f r o . l y i ng, s t eal i ng and t a l k of r unni ng away.~.."".~" .>Hans on s ai d t hat o n S a t u r d a y , Ka y 23, 1981, bot h he and Ray Moody wer e~hi ppad good by Mr . Rapi e r i n hi s of f i c e. Hans on s ai d , he was paddl edtiNt: that Rayw. , s back - handed about his f a ~e, t hr own down on the noon,,that' Rapi e r ~A[ on Ray's he3d and t hat Ray wag Gi v en 46 whac k s wi t h t hepaddl i l l . Hans on' ~ai d Rapi er was 8r a~pi ng f Cl r hi s br oat h at t he tillh'! hE:s t o r r e d .f~~n'~~n~~~aeer t he s ane da U~he r an awa) ' . c a l l ed Sher i f f L ync h andwent wi t h hi m. L at er t he s her i f f r et ur ned to t he school and pcked upRay Moody. Ranson aai d tloody vould have nm v i t R bi l l , but that MoodY'1eye' g l a s s es l ~d been t aken f r om hi m and l ~ody c an har dl y s ee t o waL kwithout hi s gl as 8es .~~ns on s ai d Rapi e r pi c k ed hi _ up by hi s pant s . f eet o f C t'~ f l oor . and i ss t r o n g enough t o hol d and paddl e . Ot her t i meR he r equi r es one [ 0 bendaver and t ouc h hi s feet and i n s u

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Uroth~r ~t:il"lIlWi.;k~1\C ' \" thcr n~bb\" K E ' Y~n~ I\apierUl''''th~" Keith Ship.Ir~ Snvo:;. act5 as nur se and conk

Hantlon said f\rott\er NiJthan pa.tdlea 1-heboys; he filly be,, t.o ra1. "'Ith theboys but ",hen he ts DVerCOIie he takes itout b1 Faden in~. Brother Bobbyilct~ funny, tv1tc:he~ his face and' .paddles. Ka9 heard that he has boyspant ~ pul l ed down " , hGn paddling, b~t 'has not ~een t hi S done. K r s . R. p j ~r .he said. pulls hair. kicks and Ulies. hands to ~c"- face ~ 'Pank..~rOlher Shi p is l i ~_ d b~ ~Sl bOY5 and t e t , al of t g wel l , bu t . l ~o doe6pad~ e SCline.Hans(1nsaid some o t her forrJs ~ punbnment con~.t. of sundin, 1n cerner ,standing a&ain:it a wall. given half portions of food, giv.n 'bread .rod~at er - but not specific names, s nac k pr i v i l e rakea a~ay. F u r t h e r ifone IOlulnps over durinS Sible re-.ding he ..ay be snetthe4 out of his chair.Han60n said rules r equi r e one l e t t er be " ' r i t t en c ac h l f c c k and it i s r e l ab e f o r e it , o es out . Al l o . he s a i d ga i l comi n , i n i s op~n~d at ( he s c honl .

'r Student. are .Uwed one call outside eaeh month for 1en mnutes and jnpcesence o f " r . Ra pi e r .Hanson s ai d . h~es ar e l o ck e~ up ~hen not v or n:und;"'f""Wear.~~k5. school c}olhinr. and l"er~ i s.

chan,i n , sheets .or [C'lIJCt Is tha\ he under,land, . put.s d(lthi;\~ ...11or 15 subject to plml~h:tl.~..'e a c h ' b o , . e e t 9 5.1~ s e u ofno re.tJ" lar S1!tpte ,..ft:sch bol' (1Ialle.& o"n bed and

Hanson 831d h. qui~ the ni n t h ; r . d@ of ~chool: t hat s i nc e t ~ f i r , t r,radthe t.ad trouble t-ompleting a full y~r, lhOlt he Old hl$ best ,ct,ool ...or~in thl.! 'havcnth and p.1ghth ~rades. H\~holS 8 1ikh!for hunt'nr. iI~ t tshin,_Willi into l&a!'1J~na (or a '-'hilf 03:'ld..cHins: it.$well. He under~ullchlhal his ID\.llh\!r ,ave a pO'Werof atLnrne), lo t he uhoOl aod ttlitl 'Wayth~ s ch' l o l ~"tS hi s social ~~t u r i t y thpc'k.Han~,msaid D~nny Brown. ~tudent. knnwH :1 l(1l ..n.l W ( 1u l d be ,13J t" \.4"',ifhe coul~ b~ contacted .. Itnn!'hm i..: 5' 11" in h~sht, we1ths ap~roxim.'tely liS Ib$ brn\o.'1l eyt:Ii. andd"rk hrmmlmir.

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Rayburn (Ray):l.owry Moody, born 11/22/65, 'Was inurviewed iltthe residenceof his parents .. L1nd~ (ft)th~r) and tA!on~ili:lI:!s. Route fl. aux ~e.l,J ~i r c r $~n . Tex~Ray ~s advi.ed of the identity of Anne tl. Deaourelle. of the ChildProt ect.Lon Cent'~r office, Shr~veport, Louisiana and SOl"".l Craddock,of'th~ Di v i s i on of L i c ens i n& , Cert1Ucat1on, DHHR. BOlton Rouge, L o u i s i a n 3 .R a : . . . . . .s also adv i s e d of the purpose of the interview. wM("h ber,:.r. at 12:40 r .m.and t~rmnat~d at about 1:50 p.Il., M ay 29, 1981.RolY ~ahl his l ' a h ! l l t M took hi. ce Bethany Boys Schuol u n Saturday. A?rH 25t19~1. H~ said he waCi assigned a buddy, J ef f Far me: r , or Ba ton Rou~t:. whoWof; (1.''> stay wi th hi., and within eyeK {ght at :111 tlllC. Ita> sa1,1!';lnlCrhas been at the SchNl for one (1) year und Iour (4) day&.On S~t u r day , April 26, 1981. Ray s3id the boys were bused to BethanyCi rb for c h u r c h and a full day of prayer and d ev ot i o ns . The boy returnedto 1.0n~~tl'eet about IDidniaht. On MoodilY , April 27,1981, the boys sl~ptla:er, about 1 0: 0 0 a . m. ; followed by a Bible r e . d 1n ~ period: t n eD Braak-f a s t and then the a&a1gned j obs , such as s~eef1ng floors. bathroo. cleaning,e t c . Before n~on time was scheduled for devotions and r e Ci t i ng th~ pledget~ t h l ? f l a g . O n this d a t e be war; taken to Shreveport t o let a new pair of,lasses and did not return unt i l about 4;00 ~~ Followin& supper therev('u10 be a devotional t1_ in the .uditoriulD from about 7:)0 p.m. u-ntil10; 0 0 p. m. , 10:30 p. m. or even 11:00 p . =.Ra y said soon after h. arrived Kenny Hanson told him that 8 Danny Brownhan~en hit by M r. Rapier a couple of days before. 'by said he andl~t!\:lY ran OlwOy on !tR y 13. l'lSl and he vas returned to the scbool about" 4:3i1 a.TIl. on May 14. 1981 (Thul'sday) and vent to class thAt day. :l~s.:lid he 1o:QS not j)addled or touch~d b y anyone. R a y aiaid he ha d cut hir.t-seLf ...hile clir:lbin~ over a vire fence. injuriny. his J l!'lv:.te area. H..:~;,hith~ luok out nurse , Mrs. Savoy, put alcohol on the wund. Roy said~rs. l\apier ..as in the search party with a J iwmy McCarthy; he ..aid tmita 'Phil HarrisC\n, a nephew of the RapSer~ 1I1~~"help ..".

R~" 6aid "~nn)' lianson returned on S:1turday, Hav 16, 1991. Also. th:n5!l~rHi Billy Lynch catle to the school on May 22, ]981 (rri~3y) ..riG l~t!:!.l:) ph\.'n! number with l\enny and tv call Mil H :\led.:od. Mr. Rap.i..!r 'Wnstl)),i af this and he had both Kenny and h~ in h1~o(ice~R H Y s:lid Rapier held lenny illthe floor by the back of his trousers andhh h1:u with. paddle on hi. buttocks and had Kenny In a hend oyer poKltion""ilh pants up. i(ay. described t.he woo"h:n rmddh' . K about 36" to 40" Inh'nl~th, 1" thi('k and about 5" wide.~' 5:2id Rapier hit him on hie cbeat w1th his fist, made him bend oyeru n d was t h r o w n onto a couch, and finally he ended up on t he floor, face-down, with Raper sittinl on bl. and hittinl h i s backside with the edge. of the padd1d, then the flat aide. Ray s a i d . he vas t w i s t i n g and tryingt o : a\ . " oi d~1ng bi t and beCQU~ of this Rapi e r hit hill !lOre than he bild~ennr .

R~~~d1d his r.losf;QS were taken; ttant nelthel' he nor ~onny WE're tr(!~tc~b.,. .1 nurse.

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R~r.aid Kenny .n~h.\"$ \"lIn :wa::- S:'1Iete,s ai l ! ~h~r Hf L ) ' nL ! l ~our . u o t he Nchool t o pick.t \ ) s t op t he s her i f f ; t hot br i e r di d not g i v e

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R~y 5aid r es ul a r punl s l =ent c ons i s t e d of hAv l n~ t o s t n n d u~ d u r i n g t h ei r( ~~e t i me f or not pi c ki ng up r ~ p e r or t r a s h f r o . t he y a r d . an as s l ~nudaddi t i ona l Bi b l e r ead i n~ per i od f o r no t dolnl a ~ood c l ~. n l na j ob ; aDdth.l[ 0111buys WQuld suffer or be pu. , i s hc d, not on1)' th~ pOI r t i c ul af om:"ho dl dn' t d o hilt j o l r , by s ai d onc~. ~n\ : dr l l pp~d a T o l l of t 011\ : tpa~r in t h e c:o.-odc. and none vas put o u t for s e v e r e ) liays.Ra~said he had no k n ~l e d 8 1 t ! o f a p f ' n a l t y cclhT fDnm bur di.1 r e e a l ltil.Il : ~al ' i c rDk . : nt 1o n~\ J1 5011tory r coa t o hI ! and Kenny. He hnd hea rd ~i'r\!3~ and w 3 t \ l r and hal! p ~r t l o n s "'fOT pun1sl~nt, but did n o t knw of o n l l e60 punished.~a~.:tid each stoaff raeJlber haa a paddle exeept Mrs. Savo:/.~) ' $ a i d l \ ) o ~e c l o t h i n " n o t b u n g u P . . is r ut i n t o a r e d e a a p t i o n p i l e a n dwhen clalDad. t he owner i. r v ni . hed . . . ybe l ns 1 ng his s na c k privilege, orhis 50ft d r i nk f o r the week.Ra~ ' said h e w r o t e paTent' t w i c e vep.k, one l e t t er was r e q u i r e d . Ou t ~j 1n~l ~t t ~r s wer ~ not s e al e d; i Dc oa i ng l e t t e r s wer e o p e n e d bef ~r ~ Si ven t o t he~oys.Aa y s ai d no v . t e hel wer e per m t t ed. no g l as s e~ wo r n a n d no . u s i c a li ns t r ument . , ot her t han t he . c ho ol pi ano and gu i t a r . Th. r ~ ar e ~o 5pOTt ~,games c r c ont ac t wi t h out s i d e c hi l dr en.-.

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. 5/29~ i .i iJ i .ROGER SAr PAt .Johnny Gray Jones Detention Ccnt.e r , 485 Shedd Rnad , Dossier City.Interview of Roger Sapp , wlm born 12/21/66 by Linda Tur ner , ChildProtcc ton Center, C

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Sapp r el ~t ed t hat Wednes day mor ni ng, he di d not r ec nl l i t he had hr eak f a s t .~rs, R~pl~r, in the dormitory, told thea to get their sheets, pllows andt wo ~~t s of c l o t ~~ and t o l oad on t he bus . r . ap l c r 13i d t h~ s t at e police:lTC comtng, according to S3PP. Supp Raid' thu bus 'IIcnt through the: Cfmntry~nd ~ndc d up i n A r c a d i a , Gi r l ' s S c h o o l l oc at i on. Sapp s ai d the bus s t o ppedat one or tWlJ r\!!it "toPR enrout e , and R"I'I~r t o I d th~! hoy!, if thuy Haw thu& t a t~ police, t o r un; . t o " Uke of f " .Sal'I' ~ti,l on TllUr~cl"1 !BOndns he I'lln nwny froos the fo;('hnl)\ in Arc:u.l1a; th:ahe ha d been around the .ymn.e1~ end r an throup,h a field R mt l e or ~r e .1I~tll..:n ~ot "n the highway and t o l d a t r uc kel ' , ..:hoW! \ s i~tns a t i r ~, t.hathe had r un f r " m F l o r i da , He f1nally told the mDn tlt. t1'uth, and thenh i t c . h \ . l d3r Lde in another truck re- the neareat to....'t\ where the sherif{~~1!:cont ac tud .md caee for hilll. Sap;1 .saId ho "'a~ with the ~;h(:rlrr ahclutfour houra and 3uve.nile officer showed up and tooK him the Jol,nny Cr:ayJones Center,Sapp s ai d he l a s t attended Oppa l l o 81gh Sc hool , 9t h gr ade, ~ esbor o~that he had sch-'Ol trouble; h a d Sl I I Ok . edmorijU.1n3, about 40 joints 8""I!!(:kat one time; h"d stolen a car, but had not heen b e f o r e a e,,urt.Sapp " ai d h~s true father died 3nd hal had a scepfatl,er about four years,and,that he, has a YOW\ler:.brothcr, Clarance. 12 yeat't; o l d. lie- ueliev.ash11J:1riothlupa1J $175,00 a month f o r h111lt o be at Bechany 8oy~~J .; ,On Ha y 29, 1981. Sa~p s ai d he vaa wai t i ng t o hear f r om hi ~ var ent s anJwanted t o r e t u r n home . Be s a i d th~re were no marks ~r b r u i s ~8 on hisbu~cks; there ~(r~ no v1Rlbl~ marks on his f~c~ On th~ ir.dd~ ofhi s l e- f t 8m t h e r e W18a s c r at c h mar k . about l " . . ml c h W3~ s\::Jhheci A n d~lI'I,'ar~1,) "".:alil1~t gu,,~rficial. and wn~not bandaged,S . , I > is about 5'7!j". 1.nhelaht. brown hai r , f ai r cC1mplcxiol