study for body arrangement for water bottles 20110330

Basic Calculation for weight

Beat Hiace Project 2011

Model : D-MAX Single Cab without rear body (Cab-Chassis)

GVW : 2,750 kg ---(1) Kerb weight : 1,425 kg ---(2) (Figure on catalog)Passenger weight : 250 kg ---(3) (3 passengers with 80kg/man)Rear Body weight (tentative) : 200 kg ---(4) (Just tentative weight)Fuel weight : 70 kg ---(5) (Full refueled)

Net Payload for Bottles : 805 kg = (1)–(2)–(3)–(4)–(5)

Weight of one water bottle is less than 20kg (18.9 L + plastic case), soMaximum loading quantity will be 40 bottles.

Body 200kgBottles 805 kg

20 bottles in one floor. 2 floors 40 bottles.

2,400 mm

1,720 mm

Apx 900mm

300 mm

500 mm

Bird View

Side View

Frame Body for Water Bottles


Frame Body for Water Bottles (on D-MAX)


Bird View

[Option 1] [Option 2]

Option 1 can accommodate more bottles, but it will be over-loaded (2 floors 50 bottles)Option 2 seems to be suitable, in terms of the number of bottles (2 floors 40 bottles)

(REF) Study for Water Bottle Layout


Visit to Al Manhal Water Factory (Mar.30th)


1. Meeting with Mr.Ra’id (Director) (1) They have around 400 units of Hiace, and 200 out of that are located in Riyadh. (2) Basically, they are satisfied with Hiace, and usage is as follows, * For sales team to get new contract. Carrying bottles and water machines also. * For delivery team to provide emergency delivery services. Carrying only bottles. (3) Hiace will carry 50 – 100 bottles in one-time, which seems to be over-loaded. In this case, carrying capacity will be more than D-MAX. (4) As mentioned, he is satisfied with Hiace, but he will not reject any proposal from ISUZU, as long as his sales team is convinced by ISUZU D-MAX.

2. Meeting with Mr.Ashraf (Maintenance Manager) (1) Actually, Hiace is over-loaded, but there is no major problem due to over-loading so far. They increased rear leaf spring when they purchase. (2) All Hiace are Diesel Model only. From 2004, engine has been common-rail, and at the beginning stage, there were many problems due to less understanding about common-rail. But at this moment, everything is going well about engine maintenance. (3) In Riyadh, there are 200 units of Hiace, but some of them are just standing-by. Then, new-demand and replacement-demand will be less for some period.

3. Interview to Sales Team Head (1) Basically, pickup should be better than Hiace, in terms of stability. Sometimes, Hiace will carry 100 bottles and be driven more than 120km, and at that time, stability is less and so scared to drive. Hoever, pickup should be more stable. And also, sometimes, bottles will be moved inside of the VAN, as they are not fixed. If pickup has fixed cargo or cage, it will be good advantages. (2) Pickup rear body should be covered by shutters, in terms of branding and preventing dusts. If the material is aluminum, it will not be so heavy.



Hiace in Al Manhal Water Factory. All models are with DSL engine / MT, without ABS/Airbags. They have 200 units in Riyadh (400 u’ in KSA total), but there are some stand-by vehicles. Body is well branded for Al Manhal (or Nestle) product. They have role of running ads also.

Bottles are located on the floor, but it can carry 50 bottles in one floor. If 2 layers, it will be 100Bottles maximum. However their payload is only around 1t, it will be much over-loaded. They increase rear leaf spring by themselves.

Stand-by vehiclesNestle brandingAl Manhal branding

Increased leaf spring

Half floor 25 bottles



[Loading Layout for Hiace (inside the van)]

2,930 mm

1,545 mm

Tire House

Tire House

Around 45 bottles on one-floor



[Loading Layout for Hiace (inside the van)]

2,930 mm

1,545 mm

Tire House

Tire House

1st layer : 45 bottles2nd layer : 40 bottles

Total : 85 bottles

1,700 kg loaded !

: 2ne layer (on top of 1st layer)



Consideration (Kambara) :1. The fact is that Al Manhal is satisfied with Hiace is true, and Hiace itself is actually good and well designed vehicle. However, we have a chance to penetrate.

2. Our advantages are : (1) Stability during driving With bottle fixed cage-body. (2) Price Depending on the cost of body. (3) Safety D-MAX is bonnet type, while Hiace is cab-over. And D-MAX has option of ABS/Airbag also. (4) Special designed body It can be specialized. For example, we can provide body type which can carry bottles and machines together with. (5) Work efficiency Easy to load-unload body (side opened shutters) (6) Fuel Economy Fuel tank of D-MAX is 76L, while Hiace has 70L only. etc… We can find more, if we compare the specs in details.

3. Our disadvantages are : (1) Loading capacity But Hiace’s case is just over-loading. It will cause non-safe situation. And I wonder if they really need 70-80 bottles in one-time.

Next step will be a discussion with Body Maker who can make this kind of special body.

study for body arrangement for water bottles 20110330

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