super high power charging · 2018-11-30 · charging duration to drive 100km [ min. ] * charging...

Super High Power ChargingChina-Japan Joint Research Project

November 30th, 2018 CHAdeMO Association

Secretary GeneralMakoto YOSHIDA

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Charging

• 充電方式の違い@Base

Home

Outside

@Destination Pathway

Type Normal Normal or Quick Quick

ChargerCharger

Charger

ChargerShort Short/Mid Long

AC 100-200V DC 500V (20kW-150kW+)

Public

Base Charge

Office


Connector

Inlet

✓ ✓ ✓ ✓

✓ ✓

✓ ✓ ✓ ✓

✓

Protocol CAN PLC CAN

Max Spec Power 400kW 1000x400 185kW 750x250 200kW 600x400 350kW 900x400 ?

Max Market Power 150kW 50kW 50kW 350kW？ 120kW

First 2009 2013 2014 2013 2012

CHAdeMOUS-COMBO

CCS1GB/TEUR-COMBO

CCS2 Tesla

Charging Standards

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CHAdeMO Association Started @Mar 2010

4


Manufacture・Charger ・EV ・Parts ・Cable/Guns

Power Generation Communication / IT Construction Certification Agency University / Laboratory Local Authority

Consortium

CHAdeMO Association 411members

42contries


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2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018

Total Japan Oversea

CHAdeMO members


71Countries 22647cgrs

7379

2903

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4200

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CHAdeMO Here and There as of Sept 2018


71economies 22647cgrs

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Total Japan Europe USA Asia

CHAdeMO Here and There as of Sept 2018


CHAdeMO’s Innovation

Basic Function with Core Protocol +

Functional Expansion

Variability Expansion

Geographical Expansion

Current Spec

CHAdeMO

Core Protocol

Function

Variability Geographical

SafetyCompatibility

Less Impact to Grid


10

“Glocal” with Open Platform Strategy

Target

• Designed, Made, Certified, Sold, Charged Locally

• CHAdeMO Similarity Makes Export Easy (Global)

Proposal

• Localize the Certification Scheme

• Empowerment to Local Organization

• Open All the Intellectual Property

• With Local Companies to Minimize Cost

• Local Unique Standard with CHAdeMO Core Protocol

• CHAdeMO Local Office (Tokyo + Europe, Thai, India, UK)

• Technical Support (Global Help Desk, Lecture, Education..)


Charger; Its Variety

Big

Small


Batt Cap Up

Various Power ChargeV2X Function

Battery as Energy Source- to Shift the Peak- to Join Smart Grid- to Prepare Blackout- to Collaborate with PV- to use in Leisure/Work

High Power- 50->100->400kW+- Power Share Charger

Add on Charge- During…

Cost Conscious- 10-20kW

IoT Guide- Load Levelize

As Battery on EV Grows


Charging Duration to Drive 100km

[ min. ]

* Charging started from 30% charged. Performance depends on individual difference and environmental condition.

Source: Nissan

～～150kW

Shorten the Charging Duration


High Power Road Map -Now-

2016 2018 2020

125Ax500V

Power Share

50kW

100/150-200kW(Cont/Peak)

350-400kW150-200kW(Cont)

350Ax500V（400Ax500V）

350-400Ax 1kV

Dynamic Control

Liquid Cooling

Auto Charge

Spec 2.0


Task of High-Power

Battery Acceptance

Impact to the Power Grid

Electrical Safety– Heat Resistance for High Current,

– Electrical Shock for High Voltage

– Heavier Cable and Connector with Heavy Connectivity

High Cost

Multi-Arm; Power Share– Dynamic Current Control

– For No Waiting Vehicle Line

Battery Charger

50kW 150kW 350kW

25kWh 30 min × ×

50kWh 1 hour 20 min ×

150kWh 3 hours 1 hour 30 min

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China and Japan Agreement

Develop New Standard• Agreement to develop common new standard on

28th of August 2018• China Electricity Council and CHAdeMO

Association Agreed to Establish the newfuture Standard for 2020

Expansion to the 3rd Countries• Agreement to expand common standard to the 3rd Countries on

26th October 2018 under the supervision of each Government


To Establish Future Standard

Scope; Safety, Durability, Compatibility, Expandability(V2X)

Backward Compatibility Assured

Use CAN system as Primary Communication

Joint Technical Group and Demonstration

Targeting Standardization by 2020

Agreement Signed between CEC and CHAdeMO

17


Why CAN is better?

18

DCAC

AC/DC AC/DC

1 : 1001 : 1

Grid

Claud

CAN

PLC CAN

CAN

1 : 100100 : 1


DC Chargers

PLC

Merit of Common Project

CAN

Better Quality, Safety, Compatible StandardMarket Expansion with A Unique StandardMass Manufacturing leads Cost Down Current Asset Utilization by Backward Compatibility No Business Obligation Each Other (Independency)

GBT dominate by number CHAdeMO Covers Geographically


Spec. ChaoJi GB/T CHAdeMO CCS Tesla

Max. power 1500V x 600A = 900kW

950V x 250A= 237.5kW

1000V x 400A = 400kW

1000V x 400A = 400kW

410V x 330A= 135kW

Number of control pilots

2 0 3 (2+1) 1 1

Communication CAN (SAE J1939) CAN (SAE J1939) CAN (ISO 11898) PLC (ISO 15118) CAN (SAE J2411)

12V power supply to EV

No Optional (A+/-)

Yes (d1)

No No

V2L/H/G/V Unknown Under development Yes Under development No

Coupler lock Inlet Connector Connector Inlet Inlet

Availability PRC PRC, India Global EU, US, South Korea, Australia

Global (Type 2 for EU)

Related standards

IEC 61851-23-1, 23-2(planned)

IEC 61851-23-1 IEC 61851-23-1, 23-2, IEEE 2030.1

IEC 61851-23-1, SAE J1772

None

Notes Liquid-cooled cable under development

Liquid-cooledcable not available

Liquid-cooledcable under development

Liquid-cooledcable under development

Liquid-cooledcable discontinued

* According to the latest standards, including drafts

Candidates for the NEXT


High Power Road Map -Future-

2016 2018 2020

125Ax500V

Power Share50kW

100/150-200kW(Cont/Peak)

350-400kW150-200kW

(Cont)

350Ax500V（400Ax500V）

Dynamic Control

Liquid Cooling

Auto Charge

Spec1.22017 Dec

Standardization

350-400A x 1kV

400kW＋

600A x 1.5kV

Vehicle ID

Spec2.02018. June

ChaoJiSpec 3.0?

New Connector


Charger; Its Variety

• High/Big– 350kW, 500kW+

– Battery 100kWh+

– Charge @Dedicated Place

– Auto Charge, New Plug

• Moderate– 100-150kW

– Battery 50kWh+

– Charge along Road

– Maintenance/Update

• Low/Small– 3-20kW

– Battery 2-10kWh

– Charge @Home, Base

– Low Cost (efficiency)

– Wireless Charging


Team Open to Everybody

- Welcome To Develop New Standard

- With Backward Compatibility (Asset works)

- Team Policy

23

Respect Each Other

No Elimination

More Installation, More Sales, More Deploy

Clear Decision Making Process

Ambition Required

Thank you for your attention

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