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(Before I start I have to say this is from my own personal experience, others may find

things differently depending on region or offices they go to) *tips and notes at bottom*

Okay So your thinking of Spain as a place for doing S.S?! I a Scotsman and my wife aRussian (7 month pregnant that is---> arrived here just over 3 weeks ago, Prior we were

going through probably all the dilemmas that your going through at this moment...

Well Im here to tell you dont panic! especially after you have been strolling through the

internet and maybe came across websites telling you "Its all changed in Spain" "its more

difficult to get your residency than last year" "you shall need to use a gestor * "there is no

work" ...

Wrong Wrong Wrong.

Welcome to a laid back atmosphere where the sunshines almost everyday of the year.

Forgive me for making it sound too easy as any bureaucracy is never too easy. But if you

have common sense then certai n aspects are pretty easy.

Lets start--->

You the Brit obv have the right to come to Spain for up to 3 months thereafter your expectedto either have a job, be a pensioner or be self sufficient.

Your partner the NON EU, is going to have to get a visa to for Spain.. Tip any schengen zone

visa entitles you to enter Spain! So if your spouse goes to lets say the French embassy where

they might well as you for less documents "as in our case" He/she Can use this visa to get

into Spain, usually it would be a visa for up to 3 months.

Each case could be different depending on which country the NON EU spouse is from.

Im not going to elaborate on what documents the non EU spouse shall need for visa as I

think for Russians may well be asked for different document than lets say Turkish and soforth. We however only needed Marriage certificate , photo copy of Passport and 2 passport

pics.

So you got the visa, booked your flight and are ready to jet of to sunny Spain, singing

ehh viva espania.

Once you arrive in Spain your obv going to want to rent a place to live, the good news! its

cheap and easy to find somewhere to live...There are many agencys and pretty much every

place I looked at only had 1 months deposit and 1 months rent upfront.. Although you maywell pay 100 to 200 Euro for admin costs for the agency. Still cheap considering you can rent


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a 2 bedroom apartment for as little as 200 Euros in the alicante region.. I would budget for

300 Euro though and get yourself somewhere decent.

"now im not going to suggest or tell you where to live coz everyone is different," However for

S.S your going to be wanting a job! so in the summer I would think that the holiday regions

are your best bet. costa del sol is more pricey to rent but probably more chance of work.otherwise alicate region is also full of tourists and cheaper to rent.. There is a saying here

that andalucia is like Londoners and alicatle scousers hahaha... Shall let you decide.

Once you have arrived and got your apartment Your going to want to head to yourlocal townhall and get a padron. You as a brit shall get straight away and your partner shall

wait a week, as the police shall come to your apartment check your non EU spouses passport,

"its a very friendly affair" nothing to worry about.. Your padron is just showing that you have

registered that you now rent at that address, totally free of charge and the document shall

come in handy for your residency and NIE.

Next step is your NIE number.. So what is this NIE number you might ask? well this is

your ticket to opening a bank account and getting a job. NIE basically is a foreigners number,

Spaniards get a DNI, You get a NIE. To get your NIE You and your spouse just have to look

up where your nearest OFICINA DE EXTRANJEROS translated Foreigners office. You

might not have such a office depending on where you live and so this would be done at a

designated police station..

You and your non EU spouse can both get NIE with just- Passport, Photocopy of Passports

and 1 Passport Photograph

It currently costs 9.60 Euro each. The NON EU spouse may be asked to photocopy every

page of their passport too... The Staff at the office shall fill in the forms for you.. Once again

no need for Gestors* the staff shall check your passport etc give you a receipt you take to any

bank pay the fees return and they should issue your NIE that day or tell you to come back and

collect next week.

So you have Your NIE you have your Apartment-->

With your NIE you and your spouse can then go and open a bank account.. Tip if you want

internet installed in your house?! they shall need NIE and bank account but should still

install until you have these.. Unlike the UK, If you order the internet from lestssay moviestar*,

they shall install it into your house within 3 hours, including engineer .

Whats next--> So your going to want residency, Now you the brit qualify as I was saying at

the top in different ways.. If you have a job you shall get residency showing youremployment contract and your NIE ---> and you need a job for S.S... Therefore when you get


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residency, your non EU spouse shall get residency too. All this is done at the same office you

got your NIE..

Self Employment , Now to be self employed in Spain your most likley going to have to pay250 plus euros per month, no matter how much you earn! its called Autonomo! That covers

your state medical and pension, PLUS TAX So unless you think is a viable business "buying

or renting a bar isnt btw" unless you have experience. Then i Suppose pay the Autonomo for

3 months and begin your business. link for more adv on bottom*

If you want to do as I have done, Which is havent bothered with a job just yet (looking after

my pregnant wife) but for whatever reason you havent found a job- you have fell in lovewith Spain and decided the UK aint worth it and your doing some black work.. WELL!!!

What you need to prove is you arent going to be a liability to the social system in Spain.

Therefore when you have got your Spanish bank account, Transfer over 619 Euros into it and

ask the bank for a certificate saying you are receiving transfers over 6.19 Euros per month .

Get Private medical" only Spanish company shall do! therefore I would suggest Santinas*

Classic plan that covers residency.. Note the basic plan shall not! if you dont have any

medical problems shouldnt cost more than 40 Euros per month..

Hey presto you also get residency and your non EU spouse shall get too.., I would suggest

transferring 1400 Euro that way your covering you and your spouse. They say you should do

this for 3 months but I did it once and asked the bank manager for certificate - told him what

it was for and he was happy to oblige as he obv dont want you leaving the country when you

bank with him.

After 3 months and 1 day of you working more than 12hours per week, living together

and banking together. Its SS time!! you should apply to the Brittish embassy in Madrid foryour eea family permit. with all your docs including either work contract, 3 months bank

statments, lease and padron. Fingers crossed you get it and can go back to U.K and live like

we all deserve. Please keep informed with up to date info on the F.B forum, with tips of

applying for your S.S. (i shall also gove updates when i have crossed that bridge. Good luck

comrades! Be strong and fight on!!

Notes *

Gestor! is a self important unqualified lawyer and unqualified accountant, who shallhold your hand if need be while you fill in your documents and go to foreigners offices.


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After holding your hand and reminding you they are fluent in spanish, therefore if your

not you need them. they shall charge you for doing nothing but being a self absorbed

pain in the arse. Stay away you dont need these cretins!

*Moviestar is a company that does your phoneline and internet acces on same day as

you order it.. Th3y have stores all over Spain, no need to use these expat comanys "who

once told me for a extra 5 euro permonth they would track my order and i could speak

to a english person, Aye right!

*Santinas is the spanish version of BUPA.

*www.thinkspain.comgo to longterm properties for renting apartments.

*self employmenthttp://www.expatica.com/es/finance_business/tax/Self_employment-in-

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