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8/6/2019 Tor -caps 24 a 26
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GHPZVLO ]KCZF F XVHZYO# Zy{llkg
Loek a whif woiyf o bfv ghwhbfczo hyyhcahjo, f fyh hpfchwvbh xvfwzo jf zfbpo hczfw xvf zojo bvcjo wovifwwf# Fv pfcwfkxvf wfykh bfldoy wf ow bfvw hbknow jfwgoiykwwfb woiyf kwwo poy
bkb, fczo fv yfvck"low zojow avczow#
^kllh f Jvcghc, pyo}h}flbfczf, mkghykhb hckbhjow, bhw fvco whikh gobo Bhzz ov Yd{w yfhnkykhb# Pyo}h}flbfczf co zoifb# Cw cow fcgoczyhbow ch whlh co hcjhy jf gkbh, xvf zkcdhwkjo xvhyzo jf iykcxvfjow jf Yd{w# Co zfzo zkcdh vb bvyhl jfcv}fcw, f hkcjh dh}kh iykcxvfjow hczknow fbpkldhjow fbpyhzflfkyhw fb vb ghczo# Bhzz wfczov"wf fczyf Yd{w f ^kllh co wom,f Jvcghc fwzh}h wfczhjo woiyf vb jfnyhv gob hw gowzhw goczyh owom#
Fv zfcdo hlno phyh goczhy# Fv fwzh}h ch myfczf jflfw,nkyhcjo o bfv hcfl jf ovyo, f fcnolk bfvw cfy}ow# O oldhyjfwgocmkhjo xvf Bhzz bf jfv co fwzh}h havjhcjo# Fb gkbh jkwwo,Yd{w woyykh gobo vb zolo hckbhjo# Flf zkcdh mkghjo zo mflkq xvhcjofv o goc}kjfk hxvk, bhl zcdhbow }kwzo vb ho ovzyo vlzkbhbfczf# Flffwzh}h ogvphjo mhqfcjo gokwhw gob Bhzz, f fv a zkcdh ov}kjo xvfflf gobfov h chboyhy Ydkhccoc#
O xvf ? Bhzz pfynvczov wvh }oq a fwzh}h ynkjh#
vbh ioh cozgkh, fv kcwkwzk#
Pocdh phyh moyh, ^kllh jkwwf gob vb woyykwo gocmvwo#]og fwz bf bhzhcjo gob o wvwpfcwf# Flh zfczov whify jfbkb hczfw xvf zojo bvcjo zk}fwwf gdfnhjo hxvk, bhw fv xvfykhjkqfy"ldfw zvjo jf vbh }fq#
Fv xvfykh xvf zojow }ogw wovifwwfb xvf fv, dvb### Lkbpfk h nhynhczh# ]ov bf ghwhy#
O xv? Bhzz yfwbvcnov#
Od bfv Jfvw( ^kllh omfnov, wfvw oldow iykldhcjo#Gob xvfb?
Fczo }fyjhjf? Jvcghc wf hiykv phyh bkb f,hphyfczfbfczf, flf zkcdh ov}kjo o yvboy zhbib#
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Gob Zo}f, fv jkwwf#
^kllh nykzov f ihzfv phlbhw woiyf h iogh# Fv co hgdo xvfflh pojfykh zfy mkghjo bhkw hckbhjh wf mowwf h ckgh h ghwhy gob
Zo}f#
Zo}f? Bhzz pfynvczov, oldhcjo kcwfnvyo# Fwwf ghyh wfv hbkno, f fv cfb wfxvfy pfcwh}h xvf }og yfhlbfczf nowzhwwfjflf#
Co, fv nowzo jflf, fv jkwwf# Flf vb ghyh iob#
Od bfv Jfvw, ^fcj{( ^kllh nykzov f pvlov co wom,xvhwf gdvzhcjo Jvcghc ch ghifh# Flh goyyfv f hiyhov"bf gob
fczvwkhwbo# Kwwo zo fbogkochczf( Fwzov zo mflkq poy }og(
Wkb, bfvw phyhicw, Yd{w hwwfczkv# Flf vb ghyh jfwoyzf#
Fv co powwo hgyfjkzhy xvf }og co bf jkwwf, jkwwfJvcghc# Fv fwzh}h gob }og, zojh bhcd#
Ifb, cw yfhlbfczf co zcdhbow jkzo w pfwwohw hkcjh# Fv bf jfwfbihyhgfk jo hiyho jf ^kllh#
Fv co zfcdo gfyzfqh wf wvpowzo jkqfy w pfwwohw, bhwfv pfcwfk xvf }ogw jf}fykhb whify#
Bhw fv co fczfcjo# Bhzz lf}hczov"wf, glhyhbfczfpfyzvyihjo gob h cozgkh# Fv pfcwfk xvf }og nowzhwwf jfwwfghyh, o Mkcc#
Co# Whgvjk h ghifh f ihktfk ow oldow# Co fwzovpyfwh h ckcnvb# Fv wolzfk vb wvwpkyo pyomvcjo# Kwwo zvjo
phwwhjo phyh bkb#Wfv ghwhbfczo }hk wfy zo mhivlowo( ^kllh wfnvyov wvhw
bow avczhw ch myfczf jo pfkzo phyh co bf hiyhhy jf co}o#Xvhcjo o nyhcjf jkh?
Fv co wfk fthzhbfczf, fv hjbkzk# Jfpokw xvf fvgobplfzhy jfqokzo hcow#
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Kwwo hpfchw fb zyw bfwfw( Bhzz nykzov#
Cw co zfbow xvhwf cfcdvb zfbpo phyh plhcfahy( ^kllhfbphlkjfgfv# Zfbow bvkzo xvf mhqfy( Fczo flh mfq vbh
ghyfzh# Hd, h Hvyoyh }hk zfy wvh bo fb zvjo, co ?
Hd# Wkb# Fv mkq vbh ghyyhcgh xvhcjo fv pfygfik xvf fvkh zfy h bf jo kcmfyco# Fv hgdo xvf flh zfy#
Fv fwzov zo mflkq poy wfy vb ghyh f fv co zfcdo xvfplhcfahy xvhlxvfy vbh jfwwhw gokwhw, jkwwf Yd{w gob vb woyykwofc}kfwhjo#
O plhcfahbfczo h bfldoy phyzf, kcwkwzkv f ^kllh lhcov
vb iyho fb }olzh jo bfv obiyo# Fwgoldfy hw goyfw, o }fwzkjo,hw mloyfw f ow goc}kzfw( Kwwo o bhkw jk}fyzkjo(
^fcj{, }og fwz yfhlbfczf ifb gob kwwo? Bhzzpfynvczov, oldhcjo"bf jkyfzhbfczf#
glhyo xvf flh fwz Bhzz, jkwwf ^kllh gob vb oldhyfthnfyhjo# Fwzf o wocdo jf ghjh bfckch# Wfy vbh pykcgfwh fwf ghwhy gob vb pycgkpf fb vb nyhcjf ghwhbfczo nyhcjkowo#
Zfgckghbfczf, Zo}f vb Bhyekw f co vb pycgkpf, fvhpoczfk#
]og whif o xvf fv xvkw jkqfy, jkwwf ^kllh# vb goczojf mhjhw zoychjo yfhlkjhjf#
^kllh, phyf poy vb wfnvcjo# O oldhy jf Bhzz nflhjoyfpovwh}h woiyf flh, f flh yfgvov, yfzyhkv o iyho jow bfvwobiyow# Flf }kyov phyh bkb# ^fcj{, kwwo yfhlbfczf o xvf }ogxvfy? Wf ghwhy gob fwwf ghyh?
Fv yfwpkyfk mvcjo f hwwfczk# Wkb# Kwzo o xvf fv xvfyo#
Zvjo ifb# Bhzz yflvzhczfbfczf bf jfv h wvh hpyo}ho#Wf kwwo o xvf }og xvfy, fczo fv }ov hpok"lh# Bhw wf flf zfbhgdvghy, fv }ov bhz"lo#
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Fv co fwpfyhykh bfcow jf }og, woyyk# Bhw fv }ovmkghy ifb# ^kllh goczkcvov gob wvh zhnhyflkgf hckbhjh, jkqfcjo"bf zojhw hw gokwhw kcgy}fkw xvf zcdhbow phyh plhcfahy, bhw fvxvfykh whky# Yd{w f Bhzz yfhlbfczf co xvfykhb ov pyfgkwh}hb ov}kyzojow ow jfzhldfw, hwwkb fwghphyhb phyh mhqfy hlno bvkzo bhkw
jk}fyzkjo# Jvcghc fyh o bfv nvhyjh"gowzhw, poy kwwo flf co pojkhwhky, bhw flf fwzh}h yfhlbfczf bhkw fc}ol}kjo ch goc}fywh jf ^kllhjo xvf fv fwzh}h#
F}fczvhlbfczf, flh fwnozov"wf# Flh jkwwf xvf kykh phyh ghwhpfnhy vb povgo jf gokwhw, phyh xvf flh pvjfwwf }olzhy ifb gfjopflh bhcd phyh plhcfahy# Whbow jo xvhyzo gob flh lkwzhcjo zvjoxvf flh zyhykh gob flh#
]fao }og hbhcd, oe? ^kllh hpfyzov bfv iyho#
Wkb#
Kwzo fbogkochczf, ^fcj{, flh bf lfbiyov# Hah gobozhl#
Fv }ov zfczhy, fv moygfk vb woyykwo#
Flh ykv ch bkcdh zfczhzk}h myhgh xvhcjo flh phyzkv# Jfiyvgfk"bf goczyh h phyfjf moyh jh poyzh jh whlh# Jvcghc fwzh}h pytkbo h
bkb, bhw flf co jkwwf chjh# ^kllh fwzh}h gfyzh# Fwwh gokwh zojhfyh gobo vb goczo jf mhjhw# Fczo, poy xvf co bf wfczkh gobofb vb?
Oldfk phyh o goyyfjoy f }k Mkcc, mhqfcjo hw yocjhw jh cokzf#Flf fwzh}h hcjhcjo phyh bkb phyh kcwpfgkochy h hlh coyzf, bhwxvhcjo flf bf }kv, flf phyov# Wfvw oldow fwgvyow povwhyhb cowbfvw poy vb bobfczo, fczo wf }kyov f ghbkcdov ch jkyfoopowzh# Hd, wkb# poy kwwo# Gobo fb vb goczo jf mhjhw, fv fwzh}hghwhcjo gob o pycgkpf# Fv w pfcwh}h fb hbhy o bfcjkno#
Hgoyjfk co jkh wfnvkczf hckbhjh phyh zyfkchy f zkyhy bkcdhbfczf jo cok}hjo, bhw fv w fwzh}h hgoyjhjh poy jfq bkcvzowhczfw jf Hvyoyh bf pfnhy# Flh gdfnov hczfw bfwbo jf ^kllh fyoviov zvjo jflh# ^kllh co mkgov mflkq woiyf kwwo, xvhcjo flhjfwgoiykv, bhw flh mfq o wfv bfldoy phyh wfy fjvghjh ho lhjo jfHvyoyh#
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Cw cow fcgoczyhbow ch nyhcjf whlh jf ahczhy, poyxvf Hvyoyhzkcdh zhczow phpkw xvf flh xvfykh fwphldhy poy zojh locnh bfwh#Flh zkcdh lkwzhw jf goc}kjhjow f bhphw jf hwwfczow f hbowzyhw jfgoyfw f bhzfykhl jf zfgkjo, yf}kwzhw f jfwfcdow jf bojh f lk}yow fzvjo xvf xvhlxvfy vb pojfykh pyfgkwhy phyh vb ghwhbfczo#
Pyfgkwhbow zfy h mfwzh jf cok}hjo co mkb jf wfbhch,oi}khbfczf, vbh }fq xvf o ghwhbfczo wfy hpfchw fb hlnvcwbfwfw, Hvyoyh jkwwf, ihzfcjo vb ghlfcjyko woiyf h bfwh# Fvwfczfk fb vbh ghjfkyh ch ghifgfkyh jh bfwh gob Hvyoyh fb p jfvb lhjo f ^kllh poy ovzyo#
Hvyoyh jfiyvhjh woiyf h bfwh, wfv }fwzkjo }fyjf mlvh hoyfjoy jflh# ^kllh zkcdh ow iyhow gyvqhjow woiyf o pfkzo, f flh oldovphyh ihkto fb Hvyoyh#
Hczfw jh mfwzh jf cok}hjo, pyfgkwhbow zfy wfv fwxvfbh jfgoyfw f zfb h mfwzh cvpgkhl fwgoldfv a? jkwwf Hvyoyh#
bvkzo gfjo, ^kllh hihcov h ghifh# Co dcfcdvbh bhcfkyh jf cw pojfybow zfy zvjo o xvf o plhcfahbow,pyoczo, bhkw vbh mfwzh# hpfchw fb povgow jkhw#
Pyfgkwhbow fczyfnhy ow goc}kzfw phyh o ghwhbfczo o bhkwypkjo poww}fl, f cw pojfbow fczyfn"low ch mfwzh jf cok}hjo,
jkwwf Hvyoyh# Xvhcjo wfv hck}fywyko, pykcgfwh?Vd, co}f jf ahcfkyo, jkwwf#
Poy xvf zfbow xvf fczyfnhy ow goc}kzfw? ^kllhpfynvczov# Poy xvf co pojfbow fc}k"low gobo pfwwohwcoybhkw?
Poyxvf cw co wobow pfwwohw coybhkw# Hvyoyh hzkyovvb glhyo# Wobow Zy{llfw f cw wobow lk}yfw# dhikzvhl xvf
fczyfnvfbow ow goc}kzfw ch mfwzh jf cok}hjo#Zvjo ifb, bhw wf zk}fybow jf mhqfy kwwo, jf}fbow fwpfyhy
pflo bfcow bhkw vbh wfbhch phyh h mfwzh, jkwwf ^kllh#
Fv co }ov jkwgvzky gob }og woiyf kwwo# Hvyoyhfcjkyfkzov"wf f fwmyfnov h zfwzh# Gobo h bf jo cok}o, fv }ov
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plhcfahy h mfwzh jf cok}hjo# Co jf wfv kczfyfwwf# Fv }ov plhcfahyf gocmknvy"lh gobo fv hgdhy bfldoy#
Gfyzo# ^kllh fynvfv hw bow gobo wf flh co wfkbpoyzhwwf, bhw flh hkcjh fwzh}h kyykzhjh# ]og mhh o xvf xvkwfy#
Kwwo vb jkyfkzo wfv#
]hbow zyhihldhy co ghwhbfczo poy fcxvhczo# Hvyoyholdov phyh bkb# Xvfb }og xvfy fb wvh mfwzh jf ghwhbfczo?
Db### Fv fcgoldk ow obiyow# ^kllh jf}f wfy bkcdhjhbh jf docyh, oi}khbfczf#
Oiyknhjh# ^kllh jfv h Hvyoyh vb woyykwo pyfwvcowo#
Glhyo, Hvyoyh woyykv myhghbfczf phyh flh f hcozov ocobf jf ^kllh woiyf vb pfjho jf phpfl# F o yfwzo jow wfvwgoc}kjhjow?
Fv co wfk# Fv ihlhcgfk bkcdh ghifh# Fv yfhlbfczfco gocdfo bvkzhw pfwwohw hxvk#
Ftgflfczf# Fv gobpklfk vbh lkwzh phyh }og# Hvyoyhpfnov vbh lkwzh jf zyw pnkchw jh bfwh f bf fczyfnov# Hxvkfwzo hlnvcw flfn}fkw Bhyewkcchw ao}fcw xvf wfykhb pfymfkzhw
jhbhw jf docyh#Hxvk zfb hpfchw wfvw cobfw f hlnvcw mhzow hlfhzykow,
jkwwf, oldhcjo phyh h lkwzh#
Efcch Zobhw zfb ghiflow pyfzow, whyjhw, f wfv phk oBhyekw jf Owlkcch# Kwwo co wknckmkgh chjh phyh bkb# Fv zfy xvfpfnhy pfwwohw jf vbh lkwzh gob ihwf fb wvh goy jo ghiflo?
Wf }og xvkwfy, fv powwo goc}kj"lhw phyh }og, Hvyoyh
omfyfgfv# Bhw fv }ov lkwz"lhw h phyzky jo bhkw jfwfa}fl hobfcow jfwfa}fl phyh zoychy bhkw mgkl phyh }og, fbioyh zojhwflhw wfahb opfw hgfkz}fkw#
Fv powwo havj"lh, jkwwf ^kllh, pfnhcjo h lkwzh jf bkbhczfw xvf Hvyoyh zk}fwwf vbh gdhcgf# Fv gocdfo bvkzh jfwwhwbfckchw# Flh kbfjkhzhbfczf }kyov phyh o mkchl jh lkwzh, f fv wfczk
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vbh pfxvfch whzkwmho fb whify xvf flh kh pfnhy hw xvf Hvyoyhbfcow nowzh}h#
Co powwo wkbplfwbfczf zfy ^kllh? Fv pfynvczfk#Zfcdo gfyzfqh xvf Zo}f co zfb zhczow hbknow phyh phjykcdow
zhbib# Pojfyhbow zfy vb ghwhbfczo pfxvfco#
Co wfah ykjgvlh, Hvyoyh jkwwf# ]og vbh pykcgfwh#]og co pojf zfy vb pfxvfco ghwhbfczo#
Hvyoyh fwz gfyzh, jkwwf ^kllh, phyfgfcjo zykwzf poy fwzhygocgoyjhcjo gob flh# ]og pyfgkwh zfy vbh mfwzh fcoybf# ]ogzfb xvf jfkt"low whify xvf }og vbh pykcgfwh#
Flfw a co whifb jkwwo? Fv pfynvczfk docfwzhbfczf,
^kllh fcgoldfv ow obiyow#
Co mhq bhl lfbiy"low#
Jfwjf xvf wfv phk fwzfah moyh jf gonkzho, Cohd pojflf}"lh hz o hlzhy, Hvyoyh jkwwf, fwgyf}fcjo hlnvbh gokwh fbwfv phpfl#
Cohd, fv pfynvczfk# O wfv bhykjo?
Wkb, flf vbh fwgoldh hjfxvhjh, yfwpocjfviyvwghbfczf Hvyoyh#
Bhw fv bhl o gocdfo, fv jkwwf#
Ifb, }og co pojf ghbkcdhy woqkcdh, jkwwf Hvyoyh,jhcjo"bf vb oldhy kyykzhjo#
Poy xvf co powwo ky gob Bhzz? Fv pfynvczfk# Flfpyhzkghbfczf bf gykov jf xvhlxvfy bhcfkyh#
Bhzz? Hvyoyh fwzh}h gocmvwh, f xvhcjo flh wf lfbiyovjf xvfb flf fyh, flh myhcqkv o chykq gob jfwnowzo# Fwwf yhphqdvbhco? Hiwolvzhbfczf co# Flf co jf}fykh wfxvfy fwzhy }k}fcjoco phlgko, f wf ow ovzyow jfwgoiyky xvf flf fwz hxvk, }og wfykhvb bozk}o jf ykwo co yfkco#
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Mvk hz h bfwh f zoxvfk fb hlnvcw jow phpkw# H bhkoykhjflfw fyh fwgykzow fb vbh lcnvh xvf fv co fczfcjkh# Fyhb zojowfb wbiolow, xvhwf gobo yvwwo ov yhif# Fv hgdh}h xvf hxvklophyfgkh wfy gobvb fb jogvbfczow hczknow, xvhcjo fv oldfk chikilkozfgh#
Chjh jf zkl hkcjh, bhw cw hpfchw gobfhbow, jkwwfZo}f#
]og co }hk fcgoczyhy chjh jf zkl# O gdhcgflfyihlhcov h ghifh# Ow ]kzzyhw cvcgh gologhyhb hw wvhw omfyzhw,poy fwgykzo, f flfw cvcgh hw fwzfcjfyhb#
Xvf zkpo jf gokwhw pojfykh fwzfcjfy o fbihyno? Fvpfynvczfk, kncoyhcjo o Gdhcgflfy#
Cw co whifbow, fthzhbfczf, Zo}f hjbkzkv# Bhwbvkzhw }fqfw, ftkwzfb lhgvchw ch lkcnvhnfb xvf pojfbow vwhygoczyh flfw#
Iyfgdhw? fv pfynvczfk#
Wkb, gobo fb !Yvbpfl wzklz wekc, jkwwf Mkcc# Flfwgowzvbhb aonhy gob hlno kczflknfczf hwwkb, xvhcjo flfw mhqfb vbhgoyjo# Phyfgf kbpoww}fl, bhw w }fqfw, }og pojf xvfiy"lo#
!YVBPFL WZKLZ WEKC " vb goczo jf mhjhw gobpklhjo co pykbfkyo}olvbf jo lk}yo Goczow phyh h kcmcgkh f phyh o lhy jow kybow Nykb,
pvilkghjo fb 8489#
Fv ov}k fwwf cfngko# Flfw co jkwwfyhb chjh phyfgkjo, fv jkwwf# W xvf h phq w jvyh hz fv bf zoychy yhkcdh# F wf fvcvcgh bf zoychy yhkcdh?
Co, }og pyfgkwh phyh wfy h yhkcdh, jkwwf Mkcc f pfnov
vbh pkldh jf phpkw#Bhw kwwo wfykh mhqfy h phq poy zfbpo kcjfzfybkchjo, co ?
Fv pfynvczfk# Wf fv cvcgh mowwf Yhkcdh#
Fv jv}kjo, jkwwf Zo}f# O yfk kykh fcgoczyhy vbhbhcfkyh jf goczoychy kwwo, f}fczvhlbfczf, f hpfchw kykh zoyc"lobhkw kyykzhjo xvhcjo flf mkchlbfczf o mkqfwwf#
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Bhw### fv phyfk f wvwpkyfk# Fczo flf }hk fcgoczyhy wfv
ghbkcdo fb zoyco jf xvhlxvfy gokwh, kcglvwk}f vbh ftzfcwo# Poyxvf }og wf pyfogvph?
H pyoyyonho co cowwo oiafzk}o# Zo}f fcgoczyovbfvw oldow# ]hbow pyfgkwhy jf vbh goyyfo zfbpoyykh wf zvjo o xvf pojfbow fcgoczyhy, bhw xvfyfbow fcgoczyhy hlno xvf} hghihy gob kwwo#
]og hgdh xvf hlno gobo kwwo ftkwzf? Fv pfynvczfk#
H ckgh gokwh xvf o yfk }hk ov}ky h }kolcgkh, jkwwf ogdhcgflfy# Cw cfgfwwkzhbow hzhg"low gob zvjo o xvf zfbow,lono xvf pvjfybow#
A zfczhbow kwwo, Zo}f jkwwf fthwpfyhjo# Bhkw fbhkw( O Yfk fwz kbvcf how cowwow hzhxvfw( Cw co pojfbowpyfavjkg"lo(
Jf yfpfczf bf ihzfv hlno xvhcjo jkwwf kwwo# Xvhcjo Zo}fzkcdh mhlhjo woiyf Loek, flf jkwwf xvf w flf, Floyh, f fv yhbowmoyzfw o wvmkgkfczf phyh wfnvy"lo, f flf co zkcdh gfyzfqh wfpojhbow ftfgvz"lo# Pflh pypykh hjbkwwo jf Floyh, o yfk fyhbhkw moyzf jo xvf Loek# Flf zkcdh bhzhjo wvh bf, xvf fyh zo
pojfyowh xvhczo flh# Cvcgh ckcnvb zkcdh wkjo ghphq jf phyhy oYfk# Floyh co fyh moyzf o wvmkgkfczf, f Zo}f fyh bvkzo jkwpfywk} o#Bhw fv zkcdh h moyh jo yfk f o pojfy jf Floyh#
]og xvfy xvf fv bhzf o Yfk, fv jkwwf# ]og xvfypyoyyonhy o pyhqo f poy kwwo zfyfk bhkw zfbpo phyh zyfkchy# Zo}f fMkcc co hzfcjfyhb bfvw oldow, fczo fv whikh xvf fv zkcdhhgfyzhjo# Flfw fwpfyh}hb xvf fv bhzhwwf bfv phk#
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GHPZVLO ]KCZF F GKCGO# Goczo jf mhjhw
Zdobhw pfnov vb nyhcjf lk}yo jh fwzhczf f aonov fb gkbh jhbfwh gob vb ihxvf moyzf# H pofkyh lf}hczov"wf jh ghph jf govyo#Zo}f zkcdh fwzhjo zo ogvphjo f}kzhcjo o bfv oldhy xvf flf pvlov
xvhcjo o lk}yo ihzfv#
Kwwo pojfykh wfy jf hlnvbh havjh# Zdobhw mfq vb nfwzogob o lk}yo# Bhw fwgykzo fb Zy{llkg#
O xvf Zy{llkg? Fv pfynvczfk hcwkowh phyh bvjhy jfhwwvczo phyh hlno xvf co mowwf woiyf fv bhzhy o bfv phk#
h }fldh lcnvh Zy{llf, Mkcc ftplkgov, f hpoczov phyh owphpkw xvf fv zkcdh }kwzo fwgykzo fb vbh lkcnvhnfb wkbilkgh#
W Zo}f iob fb xvhlxvfy lfkzvyh#
vbh lcnvh boyzh, jkwwf o gdhcgflfy# Fv co wfkgobo hlnvb whif bhkw#
Co zo jkmgkl# Zo}f pfnov o lk}yo# Flf hiykv hwpnkchw, jfkthcjo phyh moyh vb ojoy jf bomo# Fv powwo fcwkc"lhhlnvb jkh, wf }og xvkwfy#
Fv jf}fykh whify kwwo, jkwwf# Bhw co hnoyh# Cwfwzhbow zfczhcjo fcgoczyhy vbh bhcfkyh jf fwzfcjfy fwwh gokwh,co ? Gobo powwo havjhy?
Oldf hzyh}w jow aoychkw# Mkcc pfnhcjo hlnvcw woiyf hbfwh f bf fczyfnov vbh pkldh pfxvfch# ]fah wf }og gocwfnvffcgoczyhy hlnvbh gokwh woiyf zyhzhjow ov fbihynow, bfwbo xvfco wfah gob ow ]kzzyhw# Xvhlxvfy gokwh xvf powwh havjhy#Zo}f wfczov"wf fb vbh jhw ghjfkyhw jf govyo hmlkzo phyh lfy o lk}yo#Wfczfk"bf co gdo gob h bkcdh pkldh jf phpkw, bf pyfphyhcjo
phyh }hwgvldhy hw cozgkhw Zy{llfw# Wfbpyf phyfgkh fwzhy fwgykzo fbfcknbhw f }fywow# Poy kwwo fyh jkmgkl fczfcjfy, f fv zk}f xvf pfjkypoy kczfypyfzhfw#
Fv co bf wkczo zo bhl gob kwwo, poyb, xvhcjo Zo}fgdhbov Mkcc phyh havj"lo h gobpyffcjfy vbh phwwhnfb# Mkcc wfkcglkcov ch ghjfkyh phyh xvf flf pvjfwwf fwpkhy h pnkch, f flf fZo}f jkwgvzkyhb o xvf wknckmkgh}h# Fv pfcwh}h fb gobo fyh
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fwzyhcdo xvf Mkcc f Zo}f wf jh}hb zo ifb# Mkcc phyfgkh wfzyhcwmoybhy fb vb bocwzyo gkvbfczo wfbpyf xvf fv mlfyzh}h gobvb ghyh, bhw fv fwzh}h cok}h jf Zo}f, f flf phyfgkh pfymfkzhbfczfifb gob kwwo#
Mkcc oldov poy gkbh jo lk}yo, f wfvw oldow fcgoczyhyhb owbfvw w poy vb wfnvcjo hczfw jflf jfw}khy o oldhy# Fv }k hlnocflfw, vb jfwfao xvf fv pfyjk, f bf pfynvczfk co}hbfczf wf fvzobfk h jfgkwo gfyzh#
Pykcgfwh? Hvyoyh gdhbov h phyzky jo goyyfjoy#
Fv w fwzh}h wfczhjh co gdo, lfcjo hw pnkchw, bhw flhpyo}h}flbfczf co kykh hpyo}hy# Fv pvlfk phyh mkghy fb p f gologhyow phpkw woiyf h bfwh phyh f}kzhy vbh phlfwzyh woiyf o
gobpoyzhbfczo xvf vbh pykcgfwh jf}f zfy#
Pykcgfwh? Hvyoyh jkwwf co}hbfczf, f flh ch whlh# Hd,}og fwz gob Zo}f# Pfymfkzo# Pyfgkwhbow jf }ogw phyh bhkwjfzhldfw jo cok}hjo#
Hd# Gfyzo# Zo}f gologov o lk}yo jf lhjo f bf jfv vbwoyykwo jfwhafkzhjo# Gokwhw jf ghwhbfczo# Zfbow xvf mhqfy kwwohnoyh#
Wkb, fv gocgoyjfk#Oldfk phyh Mkcc# H ftpyfwwo jflf zkcdh fcjvyfgkjo, bhw flf
co oldov phyh gkbh# Zo}f f fv wfnvkbow Hvyoyh phyh moyhfcxvhczo mhlh}h woiyf hw gokwhw xvf pyfgkwh}h mhqfy phyh oghwhbfczo, f fv oldfk woiyf bfv obiyo phyh Mkcc# Hvyoyh kykhbhczfy Zo}f f fv jf yfmcw poy bvkzo zfbpo, f ^kllh co pojfykhhlk}khy o dvboy# Zfykh wkjo zo bhkw mgkl wf Hvyoyh f ^kllh mowwfbhpfchw ghwhy"wf vbh gob h ovzyh# Hz o bobfczo jf Hvyoyh cowjfkthy ky, bfwbo ^kllh fwzh}h hlk}khjh poy fwzhy mvnkcjo#
Jvcghc fwzh}h fwpfyhcjo poy bkb, f mobow phyh h goqkcdhphyh gobfy h gfkh avczow# Zo}f mok phyh h Whlh jf Nvfyyh phyhzyhihldhy fb gokwhw, f jkwwf xvf ^kllh zkcdh plhcow# Fv whikh xvfjf}kh }olzhy gob Zo}f phyh havjhy, bhw fv fwzh}h boyyfcjo jfmobf# Fv zk}f xvf pfnhy hlno phyh gobfy pykbfkyo# Fv goc}fywfkgob Jvcghc woiyf o xvf Mkcc f Zo}f fwzh}hb pfwxvkwhcjo, fgobo hlnvcw jow zyhihldow fyhb fwgykzow fb Zy{llkg# Jvcghc jkwwf
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xvf hgdh}h xvf zkcdh }kwzo vb lk}yo woiyf Zy{llkg ch whlh jf Yd{w, oxvf mhqkh wfczkjo poyxvf vb boczf jf bcew phwwh}h poy vbhmhwf fb xvf flfw zfczhyhb hpyfcjfy#
Fv yfhlbfczf co pyfgkwo hpyfcjfy fwzh wfnvcjh, bhw fv
xvfykh zfy vbh wfcwho jh lkcnvhnfb# Hwwkb xvf gobfbow, fv mvkhz h whlh# H poyzh fwzh}h mfgdhjh, bhw h bhkoykh jhw poyzhw jophlgko fyhb bhczkjhw mfgdhjhw, f fv hiyk wfb ihzfy#
Fv co fwzh}h zfczhcjo wfy woyyhzfkyh, bhw Bhzz f ^kllh cobf ov}kyhb, fv jf}fykh zfy wkjo ftzyfbhbfczf ghlbh# Ov zhl}fqflfw fwzk}fwwfb bvkzo }olzhjow phyh wk bfwbow#
^kllh fwzh}h jfkzhjh gob hw gowzhw co wom, f Bhzz fwzh}h fbgkbh jflh# Flh fwzh}h gob vb }fwzkjo gvyzo, gobo wfbpyf, f Bhzz
zkcdh wvh bo fb wvh goth, fbpvyyhcjo h ihkcdh phyh gkbh# Wvhovzyh pfych fwzh}h fcyolhjh ch gkczvyh jflf, f flh fczfyyov owjfjow fb wfvw ghiflow jf hyfkh, flfw wf ifkah}hb#
Od bfv Jfvw( Fcnolk fb wfgo# Fv co xvfykh, bhw flfhghiov whkcjo#
^fcj{, ^kllh nykzov, f Bhzz whlzov jf gkbh jflh#
O xvf fwz hgoczfgfcjo? Jvcghc pfynvczov poy zyw jf
bkb f zfczov bf fbpvyyhy phyh phwwhy, hwwkb flf pojfykh pyozfnfy"bf wf flf pyfgkwhwwf#
Wklcgko( ^kllh hwwoikov, hafkzhcjo o }fwzkjo phyh xvfzojhw hw wvhw phyzfw czkbhw fwzk}fwwfb vb povgo bhkw goifyzhw#
Mfgdf h poyzh(
Hd, gfyzo# Pvtfk h poyzh mfgdhcjo f jfw}kfk ow oldow jf^kllh f Bhzz# Flfw co fwzh}hb mhqfcjo chjh jf yfhlbfczf nyh}f,
bhw fv cvcgh zkcdh }kwzo Bhzz, fb xvhlxvfy wkzvhogobpyobfzfjoyh hczfw# Flf xvhwf cvcgh whkh gob hlnvb, f flfxvhwf cvcgh zyovtf bfckchw phyh ghwh# Fyh vb pfcwhbfczofwzyhcdo jf flf mkghy )wft{) gob hlnvb#
Xvhcjo oldfk phyh Bhzz, wfv yowzo fwzh}h }fybfldo, f flf cokykh lf}hczhy h ghifh# Wfv ghiflo fwzh}h ihnvchjo, f flf mkgh}hhlkwhcjo hw yvnhw jf wvh ghbkwh# Vb povgo jo ihzob jf ^kllh
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zkcdh yhwphjo co wfv yowzo f iogh, bhw fv co zk}f h goyhnfb jfjkqfy h flf woiyf kwwo#
Vhv# ]ogw jokw? Jvcghc woyykv phyh flfw# Iyh}o Bhzz#Fv co hgdh}h xvf ^kllh whkykh gob hlnvb moyh jf wvh glhwwf#
Ghlf"wf, Jvcghc# ^kllh oldov phyh flf f yfhavwzov wvhzoycoqflfkyh#
Co wfah iyvzo, Bhzz yfwbvcnov, f Jvcghc jfv vbphwwo phyh zyw, gobo wf fwpfyhwwf Bhzz phyh hgfyz"lo#
F }og co pojf jkqfy chjh h ckcnvb woiyf kwwo, ^kllhh}kwov# ]og whif o xvf hgoczfgfykh wf kwwo }hqhwwf# ^kllhfyh vbh Bhyewkcch f, hpfwhy jf wvhw dhiklkjhjfw fwzhyfb locnf jf
wfy zo moyzfw gobo hw bkcdhw, flh hkcjh fyh vbh jhw bhkwpojfyowhw# Bhzz fyh vb wfy dvbhco jf vbh mhblkh jf hgoldkbfczo,mhqfcjo"o mkghy moyh jh glhwwf, bfwbo bfcoy jo xvf ow zyhgefyw fbcew# Wf Bhzz mowwf mlhnyhjo goczhbkchcjo vbh lkcdhnfbkbpoyzhczf gobo jf ^kllh, flfw jokw wfykhb ftklhjow#
Gocwkjfyhcjo"wf xvf fyhb jokw jow bfvw bfldoyfw hbknow,fv co xvfykh xvf kwwo hgoczfgfwwf# Co w poy xvf fv wfczkykh wvhmhlzh zfyyk}flbfczf, bhw ow ]kzzyhw pojfykhb ky hzyw jflfw phyhgdfnhy hz bkb# Fyh cfgfwwyko xvf flfw pfybhcfgfwwfb fb
Myfckcn, ocjf flfw fwzh}hb wfnvyow#Glhyo, fv co }ov jkqfy chjh# Jvcghc pw h bo fb wfv
goyho phyh pyo}hy h wvh wkcgfykjhjf# Fv cvcgh jkwwf hckcnvb woiyf Mkcc f h pykcgfwh#
Jvcghc, ghlf h iogh, fv hzkyfk# Fv co pyfgkwh}h xvfBhzz mowwf lfbiyhjo jkwwo hnoyh#
Poy mh}oy, co mkxvf lovgh, jkwwf ^kllh, fyyhjhbfczf
pfcwhcjo woiyf bkcdh kyykzho wfy gob flh#Cw co xvfyhbow xvf }og jfwgoiykwwf jfwzf afkzo# Cw
fwz}hbow fwpfyhcjo o bobfczo gfyzo phyh goczhy h }og, bhw}og zkcdh zhczh gokwh hgoczfgfcjo vlzkbhbfczf#
F kwwo co bvjh h bhcfkyh gobo bf wkczo woiyf }og, Bhzz wf hpyfwwov h ftplkghy# Cw cow pyfogvphbow gob }og vb
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boczf# Flf hpoczov phyh wk bfwbo f ^kllh, bhw flf co oldovphyh flh# Fwwh vbh jhw gokwhw xvf cow hpyotkbov# Cw coxvfyfbow bhgdvghy }og#
]ogw, fv co fwzov bhnohjh# Fv ihlhcgfk bkcdh
ghifh# Fv co fwzov iyh}h# Fv co fwzov cfb bfwbo wvypyfwh#
Wyko? ^kllh kcglkcov h ghifh#
Co# ]ogw fwzo phwwhcjo zhczo zfbpo avczow, f }ogwfwzo wfbpyf mlfyzhcjo, Fv hmkybfk# Fv bfko xvf whikh xvfhlno fwzh}h hgoczfgfcjo# Fv w co fwpfyh}h pyfwfcgkhy kwwo#
Jfwgvlpf# Bhzz goyov pyomvcjhbfczf# Fv yfhlbfczfco xvfykh xvf }og cow }kwwf jfwwh bhcfkyh#
Co, fwz zvjo ifb# Jfk jf obiyow# Co vbhnyhcjf gokwh# Oldfk fczyf ow jokw# ^kllh f wfvw oldow fwgvyowfwzh}hb pyfogvphjow, f wvh wvhw ocjhw fb wfvw ghiflowghwzhcdow iykldh}hb fb ghwghzh ho lhjo# Flh fyh bvkzo iockzh, f flhbowzyov gobo pojfykh wfy nfczkl f mkfl#
]ogw mhqfb wfczkjo, fv jkwwf mkchlbfczf# F fv xvfyozhczo xvf wfahb mflkqfw#
Fwzhbow mflkqfw, ^kllh woyykv, f flh f Bhzz zyoghyhb vboldhy# Mok vb jhxvflfw jogfw f hboyowow, f hkcjh mfq Bhzz woyyky#
Wkb, fwzhbow mflkqfw, Bhzz hwwfczkv gob h ghifh f}olzov o wfv oldhy phyh bkb#
zkbo# Bhw }ogw jokw zb xvf wfy gvkjhjowow# Fv coxvfyo xvf }ogw wfahb pfnow f ihckjow phyh locnf jf bkb# Fvpyfgkwo jf }ogw jokw#
Wkb, fv wfk xvf }og pyfgkwh jf bkb, jkwwf ^kllh#Hvyoyh kykh gob"lh }k}h wfb bkb#
Co bf lfbiyf, Fv mkq vbh ghyfzh f ghk fb vbh jhwghjfkyhw }fldhw jf Yd{w# F fv w mvk pfjkjh d :4 doyhw# Zojobvcjo fwz gob bfjo jow ]kzzyhw, bhw fv avyo, fwwf ghwhbfczo }hkwfy h bkcdh boyzf#
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Wf }og co xvfy wf ghwhy gob flf, co wf ghwf gob flf, jkwwf Bhzz# Flf wfczov"wf co wom ho lhjo jf ^kllh, bhw flf mfq h}oq yfpyo}hjoyh jf kybo bhkw }fldo# ]og co pyfgkwh mhqfychjh xvf }og co xvfkyh#
Co, co Zo}f# Fv ihlhcgfk bkcdh ghifh# Fv fwzovifb fb ghwhy gob Zo}f#
]og fwz .ifb. fb ghwhy gob flf? ^kllh ykv f hiyhov oiyho jf Bhzz# Xvf yobczkgo#
]og jf}fykh zfy }kwzo h pyopowzh, fv jkwwf#
Ocjf fwz o hcfl, pflo ghbkcdo? ^kllh pfynvczov,oldhcjo phyh bkcdhw bow# Mkgov moyh jf zhbhcdo?
Fv co wfk# Fv wfnvyfk bkcdhw bow phyh old"lhw, gobowf fv fwpfyhwwf vb hcfl hphyfgfy bhnkghbfczf# Flf co bf jfvvb#
Kwwo doyy}fl( ^kllh yfpovwh}h h ghifh co obiyo jfBhzz# Cw zfbow xvf goyyknky kwwo kbfjkhzhbfczf# Zhl}fq fv jknhhlnvbh gokwh xvhcjo fwzk}fybow gob Hvyoyh hbhcd#
Co( Fv jkwwf mfyoqbfczf# Poy mh}oy, co jknh chjh
phyh flh# Flh bf moyhy h fwgoldfy vbh gokwh doyy}fl#Gobo flh pojf moy"lh h mhqfy hlnvbh gokwh? Jvcghc
pfynvczov# Flf wf wfczov gob hw pfychw gyvqhjhw ho bfv lhjo cogdo# ]og h pykcgfwh# Flh wvh wvioyjkchjh#
]og gocdfgf Hvyoyh, fv wvwpkyfk# Flh zfb ghbkcdow#
Kwwo fwzyhcdo# Jvcghc oldov phyh bkb gob vbh co}hlvq# Fv pfcwfk xvf h }kjh wfykh zo jkmfyfczf phyh h yfhlfqh# Xvf
}og zkcdh lkifyjhjf zozhl#Ckcnvb yfhlbfczf lk}yf# Fv ihlhcgfk bkcdh ghifh#
]og phwwh gobo }kczf doyhw poy jkh gobkno# ]og whif xvhczojo bfv zfbpo lk}yf#
Kwwo yfhlbfczf jfpykbfczf# Ow obiyow jf Jvcghcgfjfyhb xvhcjo flf pfcwov woiyf kwwo# Fv pfcwfk xvf wvh }kjh
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mowwf hwwkb poyxvf }og mowwf co}h f vbh pykcgfwh, bhw flhwfbpyf }hk wfy hwwkb, co ? ]og wfbpyf zfy xvf yfwpocjfy wpfwwohw#
Fczo, ho xvf phyfgf, fv gocgoyjfk# H }kjh co vb
goczo jf mhjhw, Jvcghc#
F }og whif o xvf flfw jkqfb, ^kllh jkwwf# Bhkwjkcdfkyo, bhkw pyoilfbhw#
Ifb, kwwo mok gocwzyhcnfjoy ov}ky }og jkqfy, ckwwo fv wovioh# Lf}hczfk"bf# Fv zfcdo bvkzo xvf fwzvjhy fwzh cokzf# Fv}ov bf fwpyfbfy fb vb zyfkchbfczo hczfw jf fcgoczyhy"bf gob Hvyoyh hbhcd# ]og hgdh xvf pojf bhcz"lh ogvphjh hz fvgdfnhy l?
Wkb fv jf}o, ^kllh nfbfv#
Wfb ftgfwwo jf zyhihldo, jkwwf Bhzz xvhcjo fv fwzh}hwhkcjo jh whlh# ]og hkcjh vbh gykhch# ]og hkcjh ao}fb#
Fv hgdo xvf bfvw jkhw jf wfy gykhch hghihyhb# Fvjkwwf docfwzhbfczf#
GHPZVLO ]KCZF F WFKW# Hifyzvyh
^kllh whkv co kcgko jo plhcfahbfczo# Flh jkwwf xvf zkcdh xvfzfy vb ahczhy gob wfv phk, bhw fv wvwpfkzo xvf Hvyoyh co pvjfwwfhnfczhy bhkw# Fwz}hbow co whlo jo ihklf# Hw glhyhikhw moyhbmkchlbfczf gocwfyzhjhw, bhw vbh ghbhjh jf cf}f goiykh h phyzfwvpfykoy jflhw, zoychcjo o whlo fwgvyo gobo vbh gh}fych# Hvyoyhnhyhczkv"bf xvf h cf}f pojfykh wfy yfbo}kjh h zfbpo phyh h bkcdhmfwzh jf cok}hjo, gobo wf fv fwzk}fwwf pyfogvphjh gob kwwo#
Flh phwwov pflh whlh, bhpfhcjo ocjf hw bfwhw fjfgoyhfw jf}fykhb fwzhy# Havjfk chw }fqfw xvf flh bf jfktovxvf co mowwf gob bvkzh myfxcgkh# Wvh poiyf hwwkwzfczf fwzh}hgoyyfcjo gobo vbh lovgh phyh mhqfy zvjo xvf Hvyoyh pfjkh#Xvhcjo flh mkchlbfczf jfktov wvh hwwkwzfczf whky, fv fwzh}hwfczhjh ho pkhco jf ghvjh, zoghcjo h hifyzvyh jf )Mvy Flkwf)yfpfzkjhbfczf, a xvf flf fyh o ckgo pfjho xvf fv gocdfgkh#
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]og }hk zfy xvf zobhy hvlhw jf pkhco, Hvyoyh jkwwf# Flh
zkcdh vbh phwzh pyfzh nyowwh pyffcgdkjh gob zojhw hw kcmoybhfwjo ghwhbfczo, f flh h gologov co pkhco, mhqfcjo ihyvldo# Fv copowwo hgyfjkzhy xvf }og a co zfcdh# Xvf zkpo jf mhblkh }og
}k}fv?
]og whif o zkpo jf mhblkh xvf fv zkcdh# Goczkcvfkzoghcjo hw bfwbhw cozhw, bhkw hlzo hnoyh, pokw fwzh}h mkghcjocfy}owh# ]og gocdfgfv o bfv kybo#
Woiyf kwwo, Hvyoyh jkwwf# Flh pvtov vcw povgow nyhbpowjf wfvw ghiflow, jfkthcjo ow ghgdow wolzow fb xvfjh lk}yf#
]og pyfgkwh phyhy jf wf yfmfyky h flf gobo wfv kybo# jf
pwwkbo nowzo#
Fv fwzov gkfczf, fv jkwwf# Bhw vb dikzo jkmgkl jfxvfiyhy#
]og zfb bvkzow dikzow xvf }og pyfgkwh xvfiyhy# Goyyfv ow jfjow pflo ghiflo#
Wf co mowwf pykcgfwh, fv co bf kcgobojhykh jf havj"lh h xvfiy"low#
Ifb, oiyknhjh poy wfv zfbpo f gocwkjfyho, fvbvybvyfk#
Fv wfk xvf }og fwz wfcjo iykcghldoch, bhw }og ifb"}kcjh# Flh hiykv h phwzh, phyh moldf"lh# Cw co zfbow zfbpophyh Myfjfykxvf ]oc Fllwkc mhqfy o wfv }fwzkjo phyh h mfwzh, fczoflf fwz zyhqfcjo bhkw hlnvcw jf wfvw bfldoyfw zyhihldow hbhcdho bfko"jkh phyh xvf powwh ftpfykbfczhy#
Phyfgf jk}fyzkjo, fv jkwwf, f fv co fwzh}h bfczkcjo#Myfjfykxvf zkcdh mfkzo bfv }fwzkjo phyh bkcdh gfykbckh jfihzkwbo, f fv nowzh}h jf fcgoczy"lo#
Pykcgfwh( Hvyoyh fwzhlov# ]og }hk phyhy jf zoghy fwwhbwkgh?
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Glhyo# Mfgdfk h zhbph jo pkhco# Zvjo o xvf zkcdh xvfmhqfy fyh pfjky#
Oiyknhjh, Hvyoyh woyykv lf}fbfczf phyh bkb# ]ogpyfgkwh zyhihldhy fb wfvw gowzvbfw, Pykcgfwh#
Bkcdhw bhcfkyhw wo bvkzo iohw xvhcjo flhw pyfgkwhb wfy, fv wvwpkyfk# Bhw hnoyh, fwzov ghcwhjh, f cw fwzhbow ckwzo ojkh zojo# Pojfbow yfhnyvphy hbhcd?
]og zo woyzvjh, fv }ov jfkthy }og wf ghwhy gob o bfvmkldo# Flh ihlhcov h ghifh f ihzfv wfv mkgdyko mfgdhcjo#]og yvjf f kcnyhzh f zo }vlnhy# Wvh bf xvhwf cow bhzov}ykhw }fqfw, f bfv mkldo jf}f wfy o pytkbo ch lkcdh phyh h goyoh,co }og# Wf flf co zk}fwwf hlnvb ghykcdo kcmvcjhjo poy }og, flf
zfykh h jfyyvihjo f zobhjo o wfv lvnhy jf jkyfkzo#
Vhv# Oldfk phyh flh gob ow oldow hyyfnhlhjow, f fvyfhlbfczf co zkcdh kjkh jo xvf jkqfy h kwwo#
yfhlbfczf vbh }fynocdh xvf flf } wf ghwhy gob }og# Flh fwzhlov h lcnvh# Wf hlnvb jfwgoiykwwf h bhcfkyh xvf ozyhgefy Mkcc fwzyhnov }og, flf wfykh bozk}o jf pkhjh co yfkco# Flh zogov o zfbplo, f whgvjkv h ghifh# ]og hpfchw woyzvjh#
]og fwz hiwolvzhbfczf gfyzh# Lf}hczfk"bf, hpfyzhcjobkcdhw bow ho bfv lhjo# Zfcdo zhczh woyzf xvf wfv mkldo cowfah chjh gobo }og# Fv }ov wfy h yhkcdh, co }og# Gocdfh owfv lvnhy, Bhyewkcch#
Flh oldov phyh bkb, ow oldow fwgvyow hwwvwzhjow, f flhpkwgov ow oldow, gobo wf flh co pvjfwwf hgyfjkzhy# Wvh pflffbphlkjfgfv# O plhco zkcdh wkjo zo hwwvwzhjoy woiyf flh gobozkcdh wkjo phyh bkb, f poy vb bobfczo, flh dh}kh fwxvfgkjo o wfvphpfl#
Pykcgfwh, fv yfhlbfczf wkczo bvkzo, flh nhnvfaov# Fvco xvkw jkqfy kwwo# Fv fwzk}f gob zhczo fwzyfwwf#
Zojow cw fwzk}fbow, fv lfbiyfk h flh#
Hvyoyh zfybkcov jf yfvcky wvhw gokwhw f yfwbvcnov }ykhwjfwgvlphw bhkw# Flh goyyfv phyh moyh jo whlo, jkqfcjo xvf flh fyh
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cfgfwwykh fb ghwh, f fv co hgdo xvf flh zfcdh whjo zo ypkjohczfw# Fv co whikh wf fv zkcdh mfkzo h gokwh gfyzh fb ihzfy jfmyfczf gob flh, bhw chxvflf bobfczo, fv co bf kbpoyzfk#
O xvf fv whikh fyh xvf fv zkcdh vb yhyo bobfczo fb xvf fv
fwzh}h gobplfzhbfczf woqkcdh# Wfb nvhyjhw fb }olzh jf bkb#Wfb Jvcghc ov Zo}f ov Hvyoyh# F fv pojfykh yfhlbfczf zobhy hymyfwgo# Goyyk hczfw xvf hlnvb pvjfwwf bf fcgoczyhy# Wf fvfwpfyhwwf, fv whikh xvf hlnvb }kykh avczo f xvfykh hlno jf bkb#Pyo}h}flbfczf, vbh goc}fywh, bhw fv co xvfykh goc}fywhy# Fvxvfykh vb bobfczo phyh yfwpkyhy# Goyyk pflo goyyfjoy jh Hlh Coyzf,f fv kyyobpk pflh poyzh lhzfyhl poy vbh zykldh fwzyfkzh jf ghwghldohlkcdhjo gob hlzhw y}oyfw# Flf j h }olzh ch ghwh , lf}hcjo phyhihkto phyh ow ilfmfw hczfw jf jhy phyh vb iflo ahyjkb#
H cf}f goiykv zvjo, zoychcjo gobo jkhbhczfw woi o lvhy# Okc}fyco jf}fykh zfy bhzhjo zojhw hw plhczhw, bhw o hqvl, yowh fyoto jhw mloyfw fwzh}hb fb plfch mloyho# H nfhjh fb wvhwpzhlhw w hw mhqkh bhkw iockzhw# Hw }kcdhw jf dfyh f nlkgckhw xvfgyfwgkhb ho locno jh phyfjf fwzh}hb }fyjfw f }kiyhczfw# Bfwbo hpfxvfch ghgdofkyh xvf goyykh pflo pobhy jf y}oyfw myocjowhwfwzh}hb goyyfcjo, fb }fq jo gocnflhbfczo goczcvo jo afkzo xvfjf}fykh#
H bhczh mkch jf cf}f yhcnkh mykh woi bfvw pw jfwghlow,
bhw fv co bf kbpoyzfk# Goyyk phyh o lhjo jh ykihcgfkyh,fwgoyyfnhcjo fb hlnvcw lvnhyfw, bhw cvcgh gh# Jokw ihcgowgvy}hjow jo ahyjkb fwzh}hb ho lhjo jf vbh lhnoh, f wfczfk"bf cobhkw pytkbo#
O ahyjkb fyh vb pfxvfco pfjho jf bhnkh, f fv o hbh}h poykwwo# Fv bf kcglkcfk phyh zyw, yfwpkyhcjo h cokzf mykh# Bkcdhyfwpkyho whkv fb vb cf}ofkyo, f o iykldo jh lvh h mhqkh iykldhygobo gykwzhkw jf nflo co hy# Fv fwzh}h zyhcghjh fb ghwh poy bvkzozfbpo#
Vb fwzhlo jf vb nhldo hzyw jf bkb pvtov"bf jow bfvwpfcwhbfczow, f fv nkyfk ho yfjoy# Fv co pojkh }fy ckcnvb, bhwfv }k wobiyhw xvf wf bo}khb ho locno jf vbh wfif, pfyzo jhphyfjf jf zkaolow#
Xvfb fwz h? Fv pfynvczfk#
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Fv hgdh}h xvf fyh Jvcghc ov ovzyo zyhgefy fc}khjo phyh bfivwghy# Xvhcjo ckcnvb yfwpocjfv, fv gobfgfk h bf pyfogvphywf zkcdh mfkzo vbh jfgkwo pyfgkpkzhjh fb whky woqkcdh# Fv pojfykhbf jfmfcjfy, bhw fv co xvfykh xvf dov}fwwf vbh cfgfwwkjhjfphyh flh#
Fv wfk xvf zfb hlnvb hxvk# Lf}hczfk"bf# Fv hcjh}hpflh ihcghjh hzyh}w jhw y}oyfw#
Fv }k vbh mknvyh jf p avczo phyfjf# Flf fwzh}h locnfjfbhkw phyh jhy vbh ioh oldhjh fb wfv yowzo, bhw h lvh iykldh}hfb wfv ghiflo glhyo#
Xvfb fwz h? Fv yfpfzk# Fv bf hafkzfk f zfczfk phyfgfyzo kbpocfczf gobo poww}fl, f xvf pyo}h}flbfczf fyh jkmgkl phyh
vbh pykcgfwh gob vb }fwzkjo, woqkcdh fb vb ahyjkb cokzf#
Pykcgfwh? Flf phyfgfv wvypyfwo f wf hpyotkbov jf bkb#Xvhcjo flf wf hihktov fb zoyco jf vbh y}oyf f ghbkcdov fbbkcdh jkyfo, fv mkchlbfczf gocwfnvk jhy vbh ioh oldhjh cflf#
Loek? Fv pfynvczfk# O xvf }og fwz mhqfcjo hxvk?
Fv }kb phyh }og# Flf phyfgkh zo gocmvwo gobo fvfwzh}h# O xvf }og fwz mhqfcjo hxvk?
Fv pyfgkwh}h jf hy myfwgo# Bhw fv co fczfcjo# Gobo }ogwovif xvf fv fwzhykh hxvk?
Fv co# hwwkb xvf fv fczyfk# Flf hpoczov phyh hphyfjf hzyw jflf# Fv fwghlfk h phyfjf# ]og yfhlbfczf jf}f zfywfnvyhch woiyf kwwo#
Poy xvf }og fwz hxvk? Fv pfynvczfk#
Co mkcah xvf }og co fwz mflkq fb bf }fy# Wfv woyykwohyyonhczf yfzoycov, klvbkchcjo o wfv yowzo# Zfcdo gfyzfqh jf xvf}og fwzh}h kcmflkq jfwjf xvf fv phyzk#
Xvhwf, fv qobifk# Fv fwzk}f plhcfahcjo bkcdh mfwzhjf cok}hjo#
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Wkb, fv ov}k mhlhy cfwwf cfngko zfyy}fl# Flf zoygfv ochykq gob jfwnowzo# poy kwwo xvf fv }kb phyh zf whl}hy#
Bf whl}hy? Fv mkq fgo#
Wkb, gobo vb gh}hlfkyo cvbh hybhjvyh yflvqfczf# Loekhiykv ow iyhow f mfq vbh yf}fycgkh# Fv }ov aon"lh woiyf bfvobiyo f fwghlhy o bvyo gob }og gobo fb Yhpvcqfl#
Yhpvcqfl vwh}h o ghiflo jflh phyh jfwgfy jf vbh zoyyf, Fv jkwwf h flf#
Pfyjof"bf# Ow ]kzzyhw co hgyfjkzhb fb ykbhw kcmhczkw ovgoczow jf mhjhw#
Cfb fv, fv jkwwf# F fv co pyfgkwo wfy yfwnhzhjh# Fvfwzov ocjf fv jf}fykh fwzhy#
Od, wfk# Loek ihlhcov h ghifh# Pykcgfwh, }og copojf hgyfjkzhy ckwwo# ]og co jf}kh fwzhy zyhcghmkhjh fb vbghwzflo doyy}fl, cok}h jf vb zolo fczfjkhczf, moyhjh h mvnky jvyhczfh cokzf poy vbh gdhcgf jf yfwpkyhy#
Fv hpyfgko wvh pyfogvpho, Loek, bhw fwzov mflkq# Bfwbo xvhcjo fv jkwwf kwwo, fv co zkcdh gfyzfqh wf kwwo fyh
}fyjhjf ov co#Fv powwo pyobfzfy"ldf vbh }kjh jf h}fczvyhw# Loek
hnhyyov vb yhbo f wf hpyotkbov bhkw, hwwkb wvikv co ihcgo gobh nyhh wvypyffcjfczf# Fv }ov lf}hy }og phyh lvnhyfw ftzkgow#Bowzyf"ldf o bvcjo# Zyhz"lh jh bhcfkyh gobo vbh pykcgfwhyfhlbfczf jf}fykh wfy zyhzhjh#
Kwwo zvjo woh bvkzo iob# Fv woyyk phyh flf# Mkxvfklkwocafhjh pflo wfv goc}kzf, bfwbo wf fv co gocmkhwwf cflf#
Bhw### Poy xv?Poy xv? Loek ykv# Poy xvf co?
Fv co powwo zf havjhy, wkczo gobo wf fwzk}fwwf hpfchwzfczhcjo bf fwxvk}hy jf bfvw jf}fyfw gobo vbh pykcgfwh Zy{llfphyh xvf fv powwh havjhy ch wvh ghvwh, fv jkwwf docfwzhbfczf#
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]og hgdh xvf o yfk bf bhcjov mhqfy kwwo? Loek ykv jfco}o f whlzov jo ihcgo, ch bkcdh myfczf# O yfk bf ojfkh#Jfwpyfqh"bf# Hbfhh bf jfghpkzhy jkhykhbfczf# H yhkcdh zf}f xvf}ky goczyh h wvh }oczhjf phyh bf yfwnhzhy# Flf xvfykh xvf zojow}ogw bf ftfgvzhwwfb#
Hnoyh fv yfhlbfczf xvfyo }olzhy h kwwo, fv woyyk#
Xvfb mhlov fb }olzhy? Fv fwzov pfjkcjo phyh }og mvnky jfzvjo kwwo, jf zojow ow Zy{llf f ow ]kzzyhw, h yfhlfqh ioih f wvhwyfnyhw zolhw# Flf mfq vb nfwzo ftzfcwhbfczf fb zoyco jf cw#
Fv co powwo# Whgvjk h ghifh, f fv ojkh}h o xvozfczhjoy h kjkh fyh# Phyh mvnky jf zojh h pyfwwo f o fwzyfwwf jophlgko# Fv co powwo jfkthy o yfkco# Zfcdo vb jf}fy hxvk, gob
fwwhw pfwwohw#
]og zfb vb jf}fy gocwkno bfwbh phyh wfy mflkq( Loekkcwkwzkv#
Co, fv co, fv jkwwf# Fv zfcdo bvkzo hxvk# F co}hbow fwxvfgfy xvf zfcdo vb cok}o#
Co wf ghwf gob flf, qobiov jh kjkh# Ghwf gobknoco lvnhy#
Ghwhy gob }og? Fv yk# ]og bf jkwwf xvf fv wjf}fykh wf ghwhy poy hboy#
Wkb# Fb vb yhyo bobfczo jf docfwzkjhjf, Loek phyfgkhxvhwf iockzo# Flf jfv vb phwwo fb bkcdh jkyfo, bo}fcjo"wf zopfyzo xvf fwzh}h xvhwf bf zoghcjo#
Pykcgfwh, ghwf gobkno#
Kwwo ### Fv ihlhcgfk h ghifh, fwphczhjh pflh pyopowzh#Kwwo co mhq bvkzo wfczkjo, Loek# Fv bhl zf gocdfo, f }og ###]og bfv kckbkno#
Fv co bf kbpoyzo jf ocjf }fcdo ov xvfb }og , flfjkwwf wkbplfwbfczf# Fv powwo mhqfy }og mflkq, f }og bf mhqmflkq# Pojfyhbow zfy vb mflkq phyh wfbpyf#
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Wfvw oldow fwzh}hb cow bfvw, f bfwbo ch pfcvbiyh, flfwiykldh}hb ovyo# Vbh lfczh ocjh gobfov h bf lh}hy f oyflhthbfczo mlvh poy bkb# Hpfchw xvhcjo pfygfik xvf Loek fwzh}hzfczhcjo bf jfyyvihy, h wfcwho phyov#
O xvf hgoczfgfv? Fv pfynvczfk, gobo o cf}ofkyo wfjfwmfq jf bkcdh bfczf# Loek fwzh}h gfczbfzyo jkhczf jf bkb, f fvwhikh xvf jf}fykh bf hmhwzhy, bhw fv co bf hmhwzfk#
Fv co }ov mhqfy kwwo gob }og, flf jkwwf ghlbhbfczf#O xvf fv jkwwf hczfw hkcjh }fyjhjfkyo# Fv xvfyo whify xvfxvhcjo }og fwzk}fy gobkno, poyxvf }og xvfy fwzhy, co poyxvf}og zfb xvf fwzhy#
Loek# Fv gobfgfk h pyozfwzhy#
Flf gologov hw bow co bfv yowzo, f fwzh}hb xvfczfw chbkcdh pflf, hkcjh xvf jf}fwwfb fwzhy mykhw h phyzky jh fwghlhjhpflh phyfjf# Flf wf kcglkcov woiyf bkb, bhw flf mfq vbh phvwhhczfw jf wfvw likow zoghyfb ow bfvw# Wfvw oldow fcgoczyhyhb owbfvw, ivwghcjo poy xvhlxvfy yfwkwzcgkh, bhw fv co mkq cfcdvbh#Wvh iogh goiykv h bkcdh, f o ghloy bftfv jfczyo jf bkb# Flf fyhjogf, f wvh pflf gdfkyh}h h gdv}h myfwgh# Bfvw aofldow fwzh}hbmyhgow, f bfv goyho nolpfhjo goczyh bfv pfkzo# Wvhw bow wfbo}fyhb phyh zyw, pfcjvyhjow co bfv ghiflo f bf pyfwwkochcjo
phyh flf#Fv phwwfk bfvw iyhow fb zoyco jflf, f flf wfczkh"wf moyzf f
pojfyowo goczyh bkb# Fv yfhlbfczf pojkh wfczky wfvw bwgvlow,gobo vb byboyf xvfczf, f fv whikh xvf pojkh bf fwbhnhy wf flfxvkwfwwf# Bhw jo afkzo xvf flf bf zogov mok hphktochjo f jflkghjoho bfwbo zfbpo# Fv xvfykh bf fczyfnhy h flf, ho wfv goc}kzf, bhwvbh }oq jh yhqo bf hzoybfczh}h#
Bfv fwzbhno }kiyov gobo wf zk}fwwf ioyiolfzhw, fczo
zoygkjo gob cw#Co, Loek# Zkyfk bkcdh iogh jh jflf, omfnhczf# Fv
goloxvfk bkcdhw bow fb wfv pfkzo f jfk vb phwwo phyh zyw# Fvco powwo# Wkczo bvkzo#
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Pykcgfwh# Loek bf }kv hcjhy phyh zyw jflf# Wvhftpyfwwo fwzh}h zo jfwfwpfyhjh f }vlcfy}fl, xvf mfq bfv pfkzojofy#
Wkczo bvkzo# Bhw fv co powwo# Fv bf }kyfk f goyyk phyh o
phlgko, gob bfjo jf xvf mowwf bvjhy jf kjkh wf fv dfwkzhwwf poybhkw zfbpo#