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7/31/2015 Variation Order and Change Order? https://www.englishforums.com/English/VariationOrderChangeOrder/vhkkk/post.htm 1/6 Anonymous: Hello! Would somebody please explain the diferrence between 'Variation Order' and 'Change Order.' Kathrin: According to www.legalcity.net variation order is: An instruction that an architect gives to the builder concerning any variations to the original building contract. If, for example, contract to build a room to the amount of R50000 were drawn up and the homeowner decided to substitute aluminium windows for the wooden ones specified in the contract, the architect would issue a variation order, instructing the building contractor to change the windows and to alter the amount specified in the contract accordingly. Variation orders are also made by the courts. For example, a court may order a reduction or increase in the maintenance payable to a divorced spouse, or vary any other court order when a good cause for the change has been shown. The change order is the result of altering the original order and became the bounding agreement after both parties agree upon it. Anonymous: They are the same thing. The term Charge Order was coined in the United States and is used over there to deal with chang occuring during construction. The term Variation Order was coined in the United Kingdom to deal also with change occurrin during construction and it is used throuught their various contract forms used in the UK like ICE7, JCT98 and the like. FIDIC adopted the term " Variation", which means the same thing. I trust this is sufficient explanation to your query. Kind regards, GDF Anonymous: When you go through any Contract Documents relevant to the topic particularly in Construction Industry, it'll give you differen opinion / meaning but in the end, it has the same / similar meaning. However, to shed a light and make it direct to the point, a per FIDIC clause it says: Change Order will be considered "if there is no cost implication means alterations / modifications / changes from the Original Contract / Scope of Work can be done with the same cost as per Original contract. Variation Order will be considered "if there will be a cost implication (deduction / addition) against the Original Contract / Scope of Work." Anonymous: Forums English for Specific Purposes (ESP) Legal English · · Reply Reply Reply Reply PICTURE GALLERY Photos OTHER PLACES Famous quotes Word Game

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Anonymous:Hello! Would somebody please explain the diferrence between 'Variation Order' and 'Change Order.'

Kathrin:According to www.legalcity.net

variation order is:

An instruction that an architect gives to the builder concerning any variations to the original building contract. If, for example, acontract to build a room to the amount of R50000 were drawn up and the homeowner decided to substitute alumin­iumwindows for the wooden ones specified in the contract, the architect would issue a variation order, instructing the buildingcontractor to change the windows and to alter the amount specified in the contract accordingly.

Variation orders are also made by the courts. For example, a court may order a reduction or increase in the maintenancepayable to a divorced spouse, or vary any other court order when a good cause for the change has been shown. The change order is the result of altering the original order and became the bounding agreement after both parties agreeupon it.

Anonymous:They are the same thing. The term Charge Order was coined in the United States and is used over there to deal with changeoccuring during construction. The term Variation Order was coined in the United Kingdom to deal also with change occurringduring construction and it is used throuught their various contract forms used in the UK like ICE7, JCT98 and the like. FIDICadopted the term "Variation", which means the same thing.

I trust this is sufficient explanation to your query.

Kind regards,

GDF

Anonymous:When you go through any Contract Documents relevant to the topic particularly in Construction Industry, it'll give you differentopinion / meaning but in the end, it has the same / similar meaning. However, to shed a light and make it direct to the point, asper FIDIC clause it says:

Change Order ­ will be considered "if there is no cost implication ­ means alterations / modifications / changes fromthe Original Contract / Scope of Work can be done with the same cost as per Original contract.Variation Order ­ will be considered "if there will be a cost implication (deduction / addition) against the Original

Contract / Scope of Work."

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I beg to disagree. Both refers to the same situation. The use of the term Change order or Variation order depends on what isstated in the terms and conditions of the Contract. A simple way to understand this terms ­ anything that is different from theoriginal terms and conditions of the contract relating to schedule, cost or specifications. For example, a Contractor wasinstructed to delete items 4.5 to 5.1 and to add new items 15.1 to 17.5 resulting in no cost impact. This is still a chnage orderbut with no cost implication.

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Wayintense commented on their own post.Interpretation of technical specification...Legal EnglishHello, Any help that can be offered to assist my interpretation of the following sentence from atechnical specification will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to resolve an interpretationconflict. The sentence in question follows: "Cylinder 

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Wayintense Hello Clive,Thank you for responding. I just checked the original document and the sentence in question doesnot have any commas or hyphens.Dave

Clive Any help that can be offered to assist my interpretation of the following sentence from atechnical specification will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to resolve an interpretation conflict. Thesentence in question follows:"Cylinder hydraulic  ...

Wayintense Thank you Clive for your help here. Great to have a second opinion. Much thanks!­Dave

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Clive In Canada, it is called a 'vehicle ownership certificate', often just said as your 'ownership'.Clive

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Clive replied to an anonymous post.What are court books please?Legal EnglishWhat are court books please?

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Clive Can you provide a context for this phrase, please?Clive

senroeash My Legal English students asked me out of the blue, I can ask them for a context. Isn'tthere any kind of generic definition? Robert

Clive I don't know. It may just be a way of referring to the records of the court.Here's one historical definition.http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/mdr/help/mdr/glossary.htm Clive

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Anonymous replied to vitin's post.Could someone give me recomendationLegal EnglishCould someone give me recomendation ­ is it realy possible to work in legal sphere in GB orUSA if i will have L.LM, Master of Law which i receive in Ukraine

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Clive Hi,No­one seems to know.You should consider looking for 'legal' websites, or asking the legal authorities in each countrydirectly.My guess is that you would require further training.Good luck,Clive

Anonymous  I know in the US they consider more important the J.D. than a LLM. As a LLM graduatein Ukraine I think you could get some job as of counsel in a law firm with businesses with Ukrainiancorporations or that deals with international law

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AmicusCuriosa Google «"lexico grammatical"» and you'll see very quickly that the question hasbeen asked and answered previously: http://is.gd/IDJpVm . I want to be helpful, and I figured showingyou how to find where this was answered before was as good as I could do ­­ I didn't have a cluewhat  ...

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Philip I've never heard that use. She is young.[She could be in her early 30s.]

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Philip:  She is young.

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