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Stan Meyer Vic coils Style 2 Rebuild Guide

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TheoryStan split the water molecule with low currents. Ok first thing, basic electrolysis uses current to slit water

by using electron collision. In Stan's system he only wanted to use voltage and no current, which we all

know by now. Well I've been digging deep into what Stan says in his lectures and memos.

Stan talks about the molecule and its "Ground State". The ground state of a system is its lowest-energy

state. The energy of the ground state is known as the zero-point energy of the system.

Basically the ground state refers to the electrons being in their correct orbit making them stable. Well

Stan's talks about taking the molecule from ground state to excited state. Excitation is an elevation in

energy level above an arbitrary baseline energy state. In physics there is a specific technical definition for

energy level which is often associated with an atom being excited to an excited state.

This means to make the electrons go from their correct orbit up to the next orbit. Like in the water

molecule you have 2 orbital shells and the 1st orbit is the "K" shell and the 2nd orbit is the "L" shell. Soto make the molecule go from ground state to exited state, the "L" shell electrons will be ejected to what

is know in electronics as the conduction band, which is just an imaginary location outside the orbit of

the "K" orbit jumping into the "L" orbit. This will continue till all electrons are in the conduction band and

the "K" and "Lthe molecule. Once you have less than 8 electrons occupying the "L", you will then have

the 2 electrons from" orbits are empty. Once the orbits are empty there is obviously no covalent bonding

between the Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms at this point.

This can be achieved. The key to Stan's system is Harmonic Oscillation. The LC circuit has to be made to

give a specific Harmonic Oscillation Wave Function. This wave function will mimic a particle equal to that

of the electrons. When the electrons are hit will this wave function signal, they will go from ground state

into excitation state.

If you stop the signal, after a short time period the electrons will emit photons and then return to ground

state. This is why Stan say pulse for X amount of time and then gate and gas will be produces for

another X time period. The gate will allow the photon energy to be released and this photon energy will

continue to produce more gas and allow the water to go back to ground state.

The Harmonic Oscillation Wave Function is very similar to an AM signal. The signal has to be the correct

band of frequencies in order to split the water molecule. Puharich gives these specific frequency bands (

3.98kHz, 7.96kHz, 15.95kHz, and 31.84kHz, which these frequencies are all sub-harmonics of 63.68kHz )

need to split the molecule.

In Stan's setup he uses chokes in around 1H each and if you calculate the capacitance of a single tube it

will be around 1.6nF, by using L= 1H and C= 1.6nF, the resonant frequency will be 3.98kHz....is this just

coincidence? I think NOT. Research Meyer and Puharich's system and you will see that these two system

are very much alike. Here are some references on what I've just explained, research it and you will see

that this is the way it was done."


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Based on the resonance cell specs we can calculate the capacitance:

permittivity (?) = 708 picofarad/meter (for water)

length (l) = 2.75 inch

outer conductor diameter (b) = 0.6250 inch (based on air-gap 0.0625 inch)

inner conductor diameter (a) = 0.5 inch

capacitance (C) = 1392.4999746314 picofarad

Note: Now the specs used for the cell has a rod in the middle and is longer than the outer tube so it has more

capacitance. What you have (1.6nF) should be almost correct for the 5RC time.

Measured values: C1(pos)=1262mH (positive choke who has effect on resonance according to Dynodon)

C2(neg)=1138mH (tuned for balancing opposite and equal voltages [pos and neg exciters] and restrict current)

Fr=3.79kHz (calculated resonance frequency C1 and Cell) Is close to 3.98kHz which called the center frequency!

Question: Isn't the frequency shifting above and below 3.98kHz? If the PLL has a lock it doesn't mean it has

exactly 3.98kHz lock.

Here some math based on Meyer and Puharich..they both say the RC time is 5kHz...this

doesnt mean to pulse the circuit at 5kHz, this is just the RC time. Using the RC formula RC=

1/(2pi*f*C) we can find the pulsing frequency to fully charge the WFC. We know that the RC

time is 5kHz and the cell used had a capacitance of 1.6nF, 3" single tube cell. So it breaks

down like this: RC = 1/(2pi*f*C)

5kHz = 1/(2pi*f*1.6nF)

f = (1/(2pi*1.6nF)) / 5kHz

f = 19904.46Hz Now we have to take 19904.46Hz and divide it by 5, the reason we divide

by 5 is because the 19904.46Hz is the RC total which equals to 5 Time Constants, 5TC.19904.46Hz / 5 = 3980.89Hz This 3980.89 Hz is the frequency that the circuit should be

pulsed at. This number should look familiar because Puharich states this frequency in his

water splitter patent!!!


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Making the Bobbins Made from Delrin Plastic


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Printing Bobbins on 3D Printer

Nate created first version on thingiverse.com

The VIC bobbins are now thing #13463 and the whole world can print them.

Link

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13463

Invite all of the 3D printer community to come and join us
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How to Make the Cores

The VIC was performed in a EI steel laminated core, was the size of the Vic 6-1 in a piece of paper


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HOw to Make the Housing - which maybe filled with oil .


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How to source and find Pin Connectors

the pin terminals Stan used on the Multi spool VIC. I think I found something that will work:

http://www.keyelco.com/pdfs/M60/M60p136.pdf

They are called insulated single turret threaded terminals. I found double turrets, but not singles

so far: http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1780500...11350.html
http://www.keyelco.com/pdfs/M60/M60p136.pdfhttp://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1780500-term-dbl-turret-ptfe-2-56-thd-11350.htmlhttp://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1780500-term-dbl-turret-ptfe-2-56-thd-11350.htmlhttp://www.keyelco.com/pdfs/M60/M60p136.pdf


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Wiring Details - How to Wire the Bobbin VIc


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Tesla Bi filar


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for design from for 3d see here

Bobin design vic style 2
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Maybe filled with oil


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Printing part on 3d printer

Sketchup and STL files are attatched:

PM87VIC_12.17.11a.zip(Size: 513.53 KB

http://open-source-energy.org/forum/attachment.php?aid=584

he Input signal to the primary of the VIC transformer will be a 50% duty cycle pulse DC square

wave.How ever at resonance in the LC circuit this square wave will turn into a high voltage sine

wave.Due to L1 and L2 chokes being connected out of phase, the output sine waves will also be

180 degrees out of phase.

When these two signals reach the plates/tubes , you will have a constant pulling force on the

water molecule with each pulse.Each Sine wave at resonance measures 2.5KHz,but to the

out of phase voltage you will have frequency doubling.I will explain this more in the followingimages.Tony Woodside.

What happens is there is s a parallel resonance that will occur between the L1 & L2 chokes and

this will cause a high impedance to current flow while increasing the magnetic field. I learned

this while testing the 8XA circuit. You have a series resonance between the L1 and Cell and
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then a parallel resonance between L1 & L2 coils.

2.5khz is just the frequency the LC circuit resonants at...Its also the same frequency that Stansays it should be.

Resonant signal using my VIC Circuit & VIC Transformer.

This is what the resonant signal should look like. Based on my research, this signal serves two

specific purposes. 1) The smaller AM signals are to match the resonance of the electrons of

the molecule. 2) The larger and slower AM signal modulates the smaller AM signals and what

this does is setup the resonance of the Nuclear Magnetic Relaxation (NMR) cycle of the proton

water. I just now need to tune the chokes to the correct frequencies :)

The purpose of giving the coils of different values is to pulsed the inner and outer tube pairwith different frequency`s. The coil with the higher value will lower the pulsed frequency and the

coil with the lower value will higher the pulsed frequency.

When you pulse the LC circuit at a given frequency, the different value inductors will changethe frequency to give rise to an AM wave like I have shown in one of my videos. For example, if

the circuit is pulsed at the resonant frequency of the L1 & Cell value, the frequency between L1& the cell will be the same as the pulsed frequency.

The frequency between L2 & Cell will be a different frequency from the pulsed frequency!!!


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16.5 0r (15)ohms per foot magnetic, resistive wire, inductive wire.

430 stainless steel enamel wire incredibly resistive wire


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end

caps


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Here are the measurements of the Steel Laminates that I have for the 1:1 Injector VIC

Coil.

Tri - Coil ConstructionResonant Choke Coils (56/62) of Figure (3-23) (Memo WFC 422 DA) are composed of

430F or 430FR inductance stainless steel film coated (hi dielectric value) wire (typically .004 Ga.

or smaller) which are axially (spiralled) Bifilar wound about core bobbin (502), forming individual

spiral-wrap (inner to outer circumference and being equally-length) coils (501a xxx 501n)

electrically connected in sequencial order to form resistive pickup coil (503).

Primary Coil(26) (typically .030 Ga.) film coated magnet wire is longitudinal wrapped in

space relationship on top of and layered bidirectional (507a xxx 507n) across spiral-wrap coils

(501a xxx 50 In) to complete bobbin cavity (504).

Secondary pickup coil (52) of Figure (3-23) is, also, composed of individual spiral wrapped

coils (505a xxx 505n) (typically .002 Ga. magnet wire) electrically connected in sequential

order to form bobbin cavity (506) which is placed on top of and in space relationship to primary

coil cavity (504). Resonant bobbin assembly (503), primary bobbin assembly (504), and

secondary bobbin assembly (506), now, make up and structurally forms voltage intensifier

(VIC) coil-assembly (530) of Figure (4-6) when electrical steel core material (53) forms a close-

loop magnetic induction pathway centrally through and around (VIC) coil-assembly (530), as

schematically illustrated in (190) of Figure (3-23) (Memo WFC 422 DA).

Electromagnetic Interaction

The resultant tri-coil configuration (Inductance core 53 - choke coils 56/62 - primary coil 26

- secondary coil 52), now, allows magnetic field coupling (71a xxx 71n) to pass through bothresonant-coils (56/62) and secondary coil (52) simultaneously when primary coil (26) is pulsed

energized by way of incoming pulse-train (46a xxx 46n). In doing so, magnetic flux-lines (71a

xxx

7In) are induced into spiral-wrap coils (505a xxx 505n) to produce inductance coupling (511a

xxx

51 In) between each secondary spiral-coils (505a xxx 505n) which are parallel formed to

expanding magnetic flux-lines (71a xxx 71n) ... producing step up voltage potential of positive

RE: Water Fuel Injection System Memo WFC 425 Stanley A. Meyer 6-4 electrical intensity

(positive voltage potential) by way of inductance / capacitance interaction across

secondary coil-assembly (52) while keeping opposition to electromagnetic build up to a

minimum. Magnetic flux-lines (71a xxx 71n) being emitted on the opposite side of primary

coil (26) induces further increase in positive voltage potential (64 a xxx) since inductance /

capacitance (Cd / DL) of Figure (7-3) interaction is, also, occurring in both resonant charging

chokes simultaneously in balance relationship to the same pulse sequent (46) ... producing

inductance coupling (512a xxx 512n) (Rp /Rpl/Rp2) of Figure (7-8) in parallel relationship to

expanding field (71), as before. The resultant Pulsing Sequence (49a xxx - T1/T2 -xxx 49n) of

Figure (7-1) allows voltage (T1) across Inductance Chokes (56/62) while current flow lags by


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90. Together, external magnetic field (71), inductance coupling field (512a xxx 512n), resistive

value (Z2 + Z3) of stainless steel wire-coil (56/62), and the dielectric value (ohmic or resistive

value) (Re> of water aids and performs amp restriction process (520) of Figure (5-3) while

allowing applied voltage amplitude to be electrically transmitted without signal degradation. (see

circuit resistive equations (Eq 9) ( Memo WFC 420, once again) as to VIC Matrix Circuit (690)

of Figure (7-8). The resultant dynamic voltage potential (600) of Figure (6-3) , now, performsthe Hydrogen Fracturing Process. (390) of Figure (3-42) (Memo WFC 422 DA) in such a way

as to allow particle oscillation to take place as a ''Energy Generator" (see Memo WFC 424 titled

Atomic Energy Balance of Water) to further enhance thermal explosive energy-yield (16a xxx

16n) (70) of Figure (4-5) (Memo.WFC 423 DA), as graphically illustrated in (610) of Figure (6-4).

Injector (590) of Figure (6-2) and voltage intensifier coil-circuit (580) of Figure (6-1) as to (190)

of Figure (3-23) is electronically Interlinked with Water Fuel Management (WFMS) System (40)

of Figure (4-2) (Memo WFC 423DA) to form "The Water Fuel Injection System" that triggers

and performs voltage activation process (600) of Figure (6-3) as to (730) of Figure (7-12).

Now what do we know about the wire:

Quote:Resonant

Charging Chokes (614/615) 430F/FR 36 A WG (.006) stainless steel (s/s) wire

RE: VIC Matrix Circuit Memo WFC 426

Stanley A. Meyer 7-5

equals 60 micro ohms per centimeter;

Primary Coil (622) 22 A WG (.028) copper wire equals 5.1933

ohms per pound weight; Secondary Pickup Coil (623) 35 A WG (.007) copper wire equals 13K

ohms per pound weight. "Pyre-ML" trade name "Himol" polymer coating-material is used to

impart thermal and mechanical resistance to the stainless steel (s/s) wire (614/615) coating;

both magnet wire sizes (622/623) uses solderable Nysol (Polyurethane Nylon Jacket) insulationenamel coating as a electrical shield-material ... all dielectric coatings having an effective 3KV

per mil dielectric value and formulated specifically to endure automotive temperature range from

_ 40 0 to 1550 C.

whats up with the stainless steal??

Quote:In reference to the use stainless steel (s/s) coil-wrap (614/615), resistive wire value

(Rsl/Rs2) of Figure (7-8) (typically 11.6K ohms per coil) is sufficient enough to inhibit current

flow oscillation in direct relationship to circuit impedance (Eq. 9) since "current flow" is, also,

restricted in the milliampere (s) range due to (s/s) wire material stainless steel 430F/FR wire-

material is "Electromagnetic Inductive" to incoming electromagnetic flux-lines (71a xxx 71n) (Rp)

without (s/s) inductor-wire-coil (L1/L2) becoming permanently magnetized ... paralleling and

performing the same electromagnetic characteristic of copper wire when it comes to magnetic

field reformation and the most important thing how is it wrapped?


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VIC wrap.btry-coil mp(Size: 3 MB / Downloads: 7)

Primary:

Quote:Primary Coil (26) (typically .030 Ga.) film coated magnet wire is longitudinal wrapped in

space relationship on top of and layered bidirectional (507a xxx 507n) across spiral-wrap coils

(501a xxx 50 In) to complete bobbin cavity (504).

Secondary:

Quote:Secondary pickup coil (52) of Figure (3-23) is, also, composed of individual spiral

wrapped coils (505a xxx 505n) (typically .002 Ga. magnet wire) electrically connected in

sequential order to form bobbin cavity (506) which is placed on top of and in space relationshipto primary coil cavity (504). between each secondary spiral-coils (505a xxx 505n) which are

parallel formed

Inductors:

Quote:Both Inductors (LI/L2) are Bifilar wound in equal length

each choke-coil (LIIL2) being of the same impedance value since both coil-wraps (56/62) are

Bifilar wound together onto a single spoolbobbin Resonant Choke Coils (56/62) of Figure (3-23)

(Memo WFC 422 DA) are composed of 430F or 430FR inductance stainless steel film coated

(hi dielectric value) wire (typically .004 Ga. or smaller) which are axially (spiralled) Bifilar wound

about core bobbin (502), forming individual spiral-wrap (inner to outer circumference and being

equally-length) coils (501a xxx 501n) electrically connected in sequencial order to form resistive

pickup coil (503).

Other wrapping info:

Quote:Secondary Pickup Coil-winding (52) which has more turns of wire than Primary Coil

winding. electrically connected in series arrangement (505a xxx 505n) to form Secondary

Coil-Wrap (52), (Np) is the number of turns of the primary Coil (26) wire-wrapped about spool

cavity (L1) and L2) are the inductance of each individual transformer

coils (26)(52), (M) is the mutual inductance of each transformer coil (26/52) being in parallel

relationship with fields aiding. the total inductance of Choke Coils (FL1 - FL2), (L1) and (L2) arethe inductance of each individual choke coil (56)(62) in series with Secondary Coil

in reference to Schematic Circuit (620) of Figure (7-1) is constructed in such a way as to

rotate and position Inductor Coils (26 - 52 - 56 - 62) to be of the same electromagnetic polarity

orientation, indicator Mark
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Whats the core made out of?

Quote:Inductance Core (53) of Figure (6-1) composed of "Grain Oriented" Electrical Steel

Laminations when electrical steel core material (53) forms a close-loop magnetic induction

pathway centrally through and around (VIC) coil-assembly

other info there is more I did not have time to grab.. please read it all!! Not just what I have

posted

Quote:In terms of Component Reactance, Inductors (LIIL2) should always be larger than

Capacitor (ER) of Figure (7-2) in order to maximize amp restriction to enhance "Voltage

Deflection" The resultant Dynamic Voltage Potential of Difference (opposite electrical attraction

force) (SS' - 617 ... RR') is in balance phase of equal electrical intensity (66 = 67) of opposite

polarity (positive electrical voltage potential _66 equals negative electrical Voltage potential 66

since the voltage Coefficient of Inductance (FL1/FL2), Voltage Coefficient of Capacitance (Cd1/

Cd2), and voltage Coefficient of Resistance (Rs1/Rs2) across choke coils (L1/L2) are the same

values ... allowing, Voltage Bounce Phenomenon (700) of Figure (7-9) to be preformed.

Of course, in practical terms of component interaction, a minute amount of amp leakage is

present and does occur due to Electronic Component Limitations but is negligible as to the

overall performance of the Hydrogen Fracturing Process

applied voltage level of intensity (typically 20,000 input volts or so) can be extended or

increased up to and beyond 90,000 volts range within a millisecond or less.

Ok well that was a lot of work! Lol

Tonys thoughts:

The inner bobbin which holds the two inductors (L1 & L2) and the primary.

The L1 & L2 are both wrapped together, which reduces inductance leakage, you need to wrap

them clockwise and fill each slot before moving to the next one. If I remember right there are 14

slots on both the inner and outer bobbins.

You also wrap the secondary the same way.


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The Primary is dual wrapped and what Stan means by this is that you wrap two wires, one will

be the primary and the other will be the feedback! From my understanding, Stan only wrapped

one layer using 22 AWG copper wire.

The Secondaryused 35 or 36 AWG copper wire. The L1/L2 coils used 35 - 36 AWG SS

430 wire. I have one of the VIC Injector transformers with some of Stan's actual 430 SS wirewrapped on it. I also have the "grain oriented" steel core like the one that Stan used. My L1/L2

chokes measure 11.7k Ohms each.

I just need to finish wrapping my secondary so I can start testing. I have made a scaled down

version of the transformer and I have measured output voltages around 5kv from that one. Just

remember when you wrap you coils, make sure they are all wound in the same direction! Then

you connect them "Aiding", so that the magnetic field is in the same direction for all coils.

The Primaryis dual wrapped and what Stan means by this is that you wrap two wires, one will

be the primary and the other will be the feedback!

Its connected in series to make the primary?

this VIC Style 2 Bobbinis for the injectors... we don't have changing capacitance values like

the tube cell... see i think this coil set is built tuned and ready to go... no "auto tune" as it all

happening in a split second... :

Quote: increased up to and beyond 90,000 volts range within a millisecond or less.

now. lets use this info to define the coil wrap configuration.

i will add some drawings that i find correct using the above information. lets find out whateveryone thinks about the coil wrap... as that seems to be the only part that is going to be

inflictive... everyone is going to take the words of " longitudinal wrapped in

space relationship on top of and layered bidirectional across spiral-wrap coils ..." lol

No Polarity , giant emf feild colapase on this set wrapped both direct and tied together

circuit is tuned

The inner bobbinwhich holds the two inductors (L1 & L2) and the primary. The L1 & L2 are

both wrapped together, which reduces inductance leakage, you need to wrap them clockwise

and fill each slot before moving to the next one. If I remember right there are 14 slots on both


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the inner and outer bobbins. You also wrap the secondary the same way. The Primary is dual

wrapped and what Stan means by this is that you wrap two wires, one will be the primary and

the other will be the feedback! From my understanding, Stan only wrapped one layer using

22 AWG copper wire. The Secondary used 35 or 36 AWG copper wire. The L1/L2 coils used

35 - 36 AWG SS 430 wire. I have one of the VIC Injector transformers with some of Stan's

actual 430 SS wire wrapped on it. I also have the "grain oriented" steel core like the one thatStan used. My L1/L2 chokes measure 11.7k Ohms each. I just need to finish wrapping my

secondary so I can start testing. I have made a scaled down version of the transformer and I

have measured output voltages around 5kv from that one. Just remember when you wrap you

coils, make sure they are all wound in the same direction! Then you connect them "Aiding", so

that the magnetic field is in the same direction for all coils. Hi Tony,

Just curious, what is the measured inductance of the L1 430 SS wire choke coil?

notes

RE: VIC Coil

Quote:I read the xls file and wondering what you measured.

What you said series/parallel setting on the meter.


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as we discussed before. there is a setting to measure parallel series... i don't really understand

it but it think it has to do with the range of the thing being measured...

Quote:I see only one choke series and parallel measurement?

CHOKE 1 and CHOKE 2 are BIFILAR wound, right. Meaning two wires at the same time in

cavities? Or are the values the same CHOKE1 = CHOKE2?

yes. there the same so im not going to measure both... takes about 30-45 min do do all the

measurements and log it...

Quote:Also notice BI-directional DUAL primary coil (two primaries?) and secondary UNIFILAR

wound. well. this is up for discussion... i dont think that there is a feed back. but that quote is

mentioned in the drawing only... know where else that i have found.

i think that once we tune the system... thats it... it dose not vary like a water bath will... so no

auto tune necessary.

Quote:Am getting confused with converting Ga. to AWG, SWG and steel wire gauge.

lol yes. you did see my long post on all the sizes and information yes?

here:http://www.open-source-energy.org/forum/...33#pid4233

Quote:Question: btw. how do you tune in without pickup coil?

calculate and test and check... o scope I really don't think we need a self tune... water vapor.

the same all the time... tune and go...

one more question. Should we put this in an oil bath??? if we get 20,000 volts to 90,000 volts.

these connectors are so close... oil bath is the only way.

otherwise we would have a nice arc show

What I find interesting about the SS wire is that a DIODE is not needed anymore as we use it in

the other VIC.

Also the UNIPOLAR DOUBLE pulse comes from the SS chokes due the magnetic choking.A diode is needed if we use normal resistive wire (not magnetic) to get UNIPOLAR DOUBLE

pulse. Also the injector chokes have the same length of wire, not the other VIC, why? I think it's

the DIODE and the placing of the choke on the core that changed the output at the choke NEG

not opposite equal voltages as choke POS. Inject VIC has the advantage it's BIFILAR on the

same core position.
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The input voltage amplitude is also adjusted for the injector coils to control the output voltage.

(xx kV to ....)

As the part oil bath, why use this there is no current flowing at the chokes output. Or am I

mistaken? Not seen oil in the photos from Dynodon.

RE: VIC Coil

Quote: What I find interesting about the SS wire is that a DIODE is not needed anymore as we

use it in the other VIC.

Also the UNIPOLAR DOUBLE pulse comes from the SS chokes due the magnetic choking.

A diode is needed if we use normal resistive wire (not magnetic) to get UNIPOLAR DOUBLE

pulse. Also the injector chokes have the same length of wire, not the other VIC, why? I think it's

the DIODE and the placing of the choke on the core that changed the output at the choke NEG

not opposite equal voltages as choke POS. Inject VIC has the advantage it's BIFILAR on the

same core position.

i also believe the same... its one interesting design... and the interesting thing is it makes perfect

sense. i still to this day have know reason why this type of system will not work the way stan

built it... i believe its all there...

Quote:As the part oil bath, why use this there is no current flowing at the chokes output. Or am I

mistaken? Not seen oil in the photos from Dynodon.

well... i don't know but if you look at how stan incased the VIC... it was in a solid aluminum blockcase...

1. it was to shield the emf coming from the coil.

2 it was so it could be filled with oil. like most high voltage coils.

i don't know just thinking out loud as i find it hard to believe that even if there is 0 amp flow that

you will still have some leakage... high voltage is high voltage and it wants to go some where! lol

the studs are so close to each other and also to the core... just seems that it may arc.

and last the primary is thick wire and low ohms ... this will make for it wanting to heat up... ???

so oil will cool it...???

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RE: VIC Coil

All these coil winding configurations are supposed to give magnetic cancelling and scalar

output. one of them includes bifilar cross wrapped.


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RE: VIC Coil


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Resonant Charging Chokes (614/615) 430F/FR 36 A WG (.006) stainless steel (s/s) wire

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Quote:(typically .004 Ga. orsmaller) and Quote:36 A WG (.006)

it looks like .003" bare and .004 with coating... give or take .0005 as it is between... that's about38awg bare... (copper chart.) my calipers are cheep but accurate. i would say this wire may

have triple build but my calipers may just not be that accurate. as Stan stated it was double

build... i also can not solder the ss wire... but it may need more heat...???

also, i measure 16.4 ohms per foot. on the ss wire. so thats 707.31 foot per choke coil... to get

11.6k wow! its small wire but man!

now as far as primary and secondary... there are some problems with picking the correct wire...

\ for the primary... :

Quote:typically .030 Ga. that is between 20 - 21 awg bare and matches 21 awg heavy build.Quote:22 A WG (.028) copper wire equals 5.1933 ohms per pound weight

that is .028 matches 21 awg bare and really close to 22awg heavy build. and for weight/ohms it

matches best with 21 awg...

also a quote from the diagram 6-1 " Dual Primary coil 30 GA. magnet wire bidirectional

wrapped" ... this is the only place i have found that primary has 2 coils... as tony stated its for

the feed back... so the feed back is also 30GA. ??? seems odd. i think it may just be 2 primary's

and they need to be connected some how... "bidirectional wrapped" that's opposite direction?


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\for the secondary:

Quote:35 A WG (.007) copper wire equals 13K ohms

per pound weight 35 AWG is .0055 bare and .067 for heavy build... but matches best to 38AWG

for LB/Ohms...andQuote:typically .002 Ga. magnet wirethats between awg 43 and 44 bare and between 46 and 47 for heavy build... hahaha now im

confused...

i need help picking wire... and also the coating... what build of coating uses

Quote:solderable Nysol (Polyurethane Nylon Jacket) insulation enamel coating as a electrical

shield-material ... all dielectric coatings having an effective 3KV per mil dielectric value and

formulatedspecifically to endure automotive temperature range from _ 40 0 to 1550 C.

i find this to be the material.. but can not find theQuote:effective 3KV per mil dielectric value

can some one find what build will be this dielectric strength???

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Questions & Answer

im wondering the wire size... so, if the choke inductors are 38awg as i mesured it to be right

about there...

then would i want a different size on the secondary???

should i not just get 38awg???

that way both are the same size???

would there be an advantage on having the inductors smaller or bigger wire?

1..What will the difference of inductance do to the frequency that is being pulsed to thechokes?

2.Why would you want two different frequencies? I thought the whole point was to keep

both the anode and cathode as close as possible in frequency. What am I missing?
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The veritable choke is to compensate for the resonant frequency of the inner andouter tubes


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you need to also remember that Stan talks about the injector cavity itself increasing the applied voltage

from the coil. He also says that the injector frequency is made for higher frequencies up to 50khz.

The reason for the insulation is this.

By decreasing the thickness of the core along the path perpendicular

to the current (or should I say along the electro-magnetic flux) the

available electron count is decreased and thus the internal currents

resulting in the core are greatly reduced. This allows for more current

in the coil, good magnetic field and less heating

of the core. If your core lamination is not insulated then stick some paper between the

layers. Epoxy well cured works well also.

o, look here in the same section and you will see that the "VIC Bifilar Wrap Coil-Assembly

(10-3B) and

VIC Dual Coil Wrap-Assembly (10-3A)" are different than the "voltage intensifier (VIC)

circuit coil-assembly (580) of Figure (6-1)" here is a quote from section 10 you refer

to. "To reduce amp leakage still further, the copper

wire of both Resonant Charging Chokes (56/62) can be replaced with an magnetically

~ductive stainless

steel wire (430F/FR) " the research has been done, thanks, ~Russ

the cores were hand cut and donated by don, these were laminated cores. so there

already laminated, and

also this is "electrical steal" and that's different than normal steal... its higher perm than iron or steal. and the measurements reflect that :) ~Russ

PArts

Diodes

u1550 stans na now

U1560 use

just alittle bit more voltage check it.

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